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[NSW] 1/2 Price Giant VOYA E+ 3 E-Bike 2022 Model $1600 in-Store Only (Save $1599) @ Giant Wollongong/Sydney

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Giant Sydney has the same deals; link below
https://www.giantsydney.com.au/au/sale

Credit to @enthusiast

All bikes on half price link:
https://www.giantwollongong.com.au/au/sale#brand=momentum&co…

Make sure to filter Momentum in brands

Powerful, lightning fast and designed for city life, at just 18kg the Voya E+ is our lightest ever commuter e-bike. It might look like a regular bike, but it's anything but. With a slim, integrated battery and small but mighty 1.7kg hub motor, the Voya E+ will take your commute to the next level. Its intuitive one-button controller on the top tube makes selecting assist mode, changing modes and checking your battery totally hassle-free. The ultimate lightweight electric commuter bike that makes hills a breeze, and leaves gas in the tank for a full day in the office, is the only way to get to work this year.

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  • +16

    Don't have much experience with E-Bikes, or their battery longevity, but with this having an integrated battery, once it's dead, am I left with just A-Bike?

    • +17

      Even better, you get better fitness by carrying the weight of the battery.

    • +1

      The video on their website says that the battery is replaceable

      • Usually pretty expensive.

        • +5

          About $500 to replace one from what I've seen. Seems like a lot but you're only supposed to have to do it every five or so years — which is pretty reasonable.

          Edit: I should add it's $500 now. I reckon there's a decent chance battery tech will have become cheaper by 2028.

          • +2

            @RolandWaites: Hopefully the price does come down. Last time I checked a 500wh Japanese battery is $1,000+. 1/6 the cost the of the bike.

          • @RolandWaites: I'd say the nominal dollar cost would go up due to inflation, but the capacity/weight would be much better for the dollar by then and ur ahead in real terms.

    • +2

      Ebike batteries can last 15,000km plus. Ud make ur money back from saved commuting by that point and the tech would have moved on for an upgrade/replacement.

      • In fact more than 15,000km. I just re-checked my Bosch PowerTube battery warranty, Bosch warranties it to retain "60% of capacity after 500 charge cycles (or 24mths)". At a range of ~60km per charge (conservative estimate from real life usage, mid level assist, some hills etc), 500 charges works out to be closer to 30,000km.

    • i dare say so

  • +1

    All in store only - that's a shame.

    • price match elsewhere?

      • +1

        Usually only price match local stores. Giant cannot ship any bikes.

        • Actually Giant branded stores can ship, but only to other Giant branded stores, it is at the discretion of the store to receive it.

          Wanted to buy a bike from interstate, the shop was happy to sell - if I cover shipping and get another Giant store to assemble it. For warranty and brand reputation reasons, they insisted the bike can only be assembled by a Giant branded store, not just an authorised dealer.

          They are franchise stores, not corporately owned, the store I have in mind refused to accept it. They said that they have the same bike and size, they want to sell from their inventory at their price, which is fair enough. They did offer some discount to get closer but the deal fell through.

    • +1

      I contacted the store about one of the other ebikes in sale. They were happy to take an order over email and will deliver the bike to Canberra for $50 in about a week. I believe they do their own deliveries so if you are within a couple of hours of Wollongong it's definitely worth emailing them

      • Interesting, do they deliver fully assembled?

  • +8

    not quite half price, just saying …

  • +2

    Great deal mainly as Giant is a reputable brand - Kogan and ALDI have put out sub $1K e-bikes which could be risky

    • Ha, just today I rode past a guy with his expensive aero Giant bike on the side of the bike path, as I went by I tried to see what was wrong and notice his aero seat post was missing the seat..

      • +1

        Waiting for the second part of your story…

        • +5

          Hopefully it’s something even better than this:
          .. then I saw when he was bending over that he was nursing a horrid entry wound between his buttocks where the shaft had reamed his backside, and it occurred to me that this was quite ironic given here he was having been reamed and shafted by his beloved GIANT bike, which he payed oh so much for after being shafted and reamed by COVID era bike prices. All whilst I gleefully ride past on my sub $1k ALDI bike, (profanity) and wallet intact.

    • +1

      my dad brought a no name ebike for about $1200 n he rides it daily for over a year and it’s been great

  • +1

    25Nm motor, so pretty weak (but most hub motors are). Though a good deal for a name brand ebike, if you don't have much hills to tackle 🙂

    • +3

      Aren't the hills a main reason to get an E-bike though? I remember there was a big hill I had to get up on my bike to work. I could ride 90% there and not break a sweat because it was relatively flat. Then that big hill would hit and I would be needing a shower.

    • +2

      25Nm at what speed?

      25km/hr @ 250W is only 12.5 Nm, or 25Nm will give 250W @ 12.5km/h .

      25Nm @250W , 700C is 12km/hr. Should get you up a 6% on-road hill climb without even pedalling, if not too heavy.
      Not enough for mountain biking of course.

      • How did you work out those numbers?

        • +1

          Yeah, Science!

          Power - force x velocity, or torque x angular velocity.

          Angular velocity is your speed divided by the wheel radius, about 0.34m for 700C. Divide km/h speed by 3.6 to get m/s.

          • @bargaino: I'm curious how close those numbers are in real life as it wont have drag or other losses.

            • @8azinga: Not much drag @ 12km/h. And on-road, I assume low rolling resistance.
              Off-road, or faster you need to factor those in.

  • Good brand Giant and decent price for an e-bike (don't compare to those cheap Kmart conventional bikes).
    But the battery is only 250Wh. If it has 36V, that means it only has about 7Ah which is small in capacity and won't last the distance.
    I currently have a Leitner e-bike with 15Ah battery that can last between 30-80km range.

    • If you believe the marketing…

      https://www.momentum-biking.com/au/voya

      IMPRESSIVE RANGE AND RECHARGE
      The EnergyPak 250 lithium ion battery with a 4A charger guarantees lightning-fast recharge in 3.4 hours and an 80% charge in just over two hours. When fully charged, the battery offers 250 watt hours and up to 72 km.

      • +3

        They should come up with a standard for measuring e-bike distance - its just too many variables are at play.
        That 72 km might very well be achieved when tested with 50KG rider riding slowly in very flat land with heavy tail wind

        • +1

          and with the little rider pedalling like club buggary!

        • Looks like the claim is for the lowest pedal assist mode from what I could find. So definitely you pedalling a lot, it giving minimal assistance on a fairly flat track most likely

        • -1

          They base it on the lowest assist level which provides assist up to about 6 km/hr which is totally unrealistic. I haven't done the calcs on this specific bike but have done it on so many others that I just give up trying to find someone giving an honest distance range. It should be based on max assist level which is where the bike is providing assist up to 25 kph.

          I get 500km out of a charge because I only use assist on hills, maybe my bike manufacturer should advertise 500km range?

  • +3

    Not that it's super important, but something you should be aware. The controller on this bike doesn't have a digital display, there are 2 rows of LEDs, 1 for power assist level, the other is the battery indicator.

    However, it is compatible with ANT+, so it can hook up to cycling computers, such as Garmin head units.

  • +2

    Probably a better option for only $400 more?

    https://www.giantwollongong.com.au/au/transend-eplus

    • What is that bar on top of the chain stay? Appears to be a chain guard, but the end is not bolted to the frame?

      Wonder why Giant doesn't do belt drives, perfect for e-bike with internal hub.

    • Looks like a much better bargain. The extra torque motor, battery and controller is worth more than the $400 extra

      About 24kg though. It's a lot heavier which counts on the bumps. Your arms and legs can take the shock just fine but that's a lot of unsprung weight and if you ever need to lift it, that's a task for two small people or one solid bloke

      • +1

        Voya is more fitness and speed oriented. Transend is more relaxed and utilitarian, it has got smaller and wider mountain bike tyres, longer wheelbase, and more upright posture.

    • It depends where you are riding. The mid-drive means the motor uses the gears, so more power/torque at low speed.
      i.e it is better on steep hills or off-road. But if you are almost always at 15-25 km/hr while powered, there is little to gain.

      Belt-drive and Nexus has advantages, but the bike is much heavier.

      • +1

        So true, I have all the advantage riding uphill, as the non e-bike riders could not keep up.

        But once on the flat, they are flying again.

        • -4

          When a rider of a standard bike is forced to brake on a downhill run, just after being passed by an e-bike up the hill, well let's say that is totally annoying - happens a lot - main thing for e-bike riders is keep left number one, and maybe not be so over zealous with the uphill passing. Bike riders esp. commuters are never thrilled about braking on the precious downhill slopes.

        • +1

          The advantage of this VOYA is that it weighs very little for an ebike, and there is very little resistance in the drive train, so you can pedal up the hills and into the wind with assistance, then easily ride at greater than 25km/h on the flats at the same speed as regular bikes.

          • @frugalferret: 25nm is not alot and I actually don't think it will help all that much going into head wind or up hills. In fact, I reckon it would mostly just help getting up to speed on the flats.

            I've seen vids of people riding the Orbea Gain e-road bike which has the 40nm Mahle hub drive motor. Those things are aero and weigh even less (about 14kg). Even they, and i wouldnt say struggle, but you have to put in work to get uphills.

            The way it's described is once you get up to speed, it makes it easier to maintain that speed. So when you approach a hill at 25kmh, as long as you keep the cadence up it will lose a bit of speed but will keep you at around 20kmh without any extra effort, whereas unassisted you would probably drop to <10kmh at the same cadence.

            But if you slow down while going up the hill, the motor is not going to get you back up to that speed again on its own, you have to work to get it back up to speed and then try and hold it again.

            • @Nos 4r2: Of course you still need to put in effort, it's a pedal assist bike, like all ebikes in Australia. I have a giant emtb with the Yamaha mid drive and as soon as you hit 25km/h it feels like your brakes are engaged. Terrible on a 25km commute where there is a cycleway with lots of flat sections and only 4 stops for road crossings. I spend most my time sitting at 24km/h getting overtaken by regular cyclists.

              I'd much rather a little assistance to make climbing the few hills easier or assistance pedaling into the strong afternoon headwinds easier, and have the benefit of being able to travel at greater than 25km/h when possible.

              The hub motor has no problems with hills https://youtu.be/_i2uuvJXWNU?t=941

              • @frugalferret: It makes sense I guess in that type of urban environment, which is pretty much what that bike is made for.

                Come to think of it, the comparison I made was not really comparable. I just had seen examples of people still working hard with the more powerful motor in the Orbea so assumed it would be even harder on this, which it would be. But the Orbea is an endurance bike, this isn't. This will probably never get used the way the Orbea is meant to be used so it doesn't really matter that it's less powerful. It will still suit it's intended purpose, which is lower speed, lower distance urban riding.

      • -1

        Ironically it is worse up the hills as I had one and struggled to get it moving from a standstill in the lowest gear.

        The Nexus system doesn't lend itself too well as the motor needs cadence to really push its torque through but that is difficult when the front chain ring is large and the rear sprocket is a single 18t.

  • -4

    Only 250w motor for this price? Pass…

    • +5

      All your gonna get from a legit store

    • +2

      Laws exist lol. Get a Cullen if you want a high performance illegal e-bike for cheap.

  • +1

    How big are these giant bikes?

    • +7

      Not as big as their brand claims, normal people size in fact

      • +1

        That's false advertising!

  • https://road.cc/content/news/giant-postpones-payments-suppli…

    2023 is going to be a great year to upgrade your bicycle

  • How fast can these ebikes go?

    • +3

      Legally, motor can only assist your pedalling up to 25kph maximum.

  • https://www.giantwollongong.com.au/au/transend-eplus

    This one has 500Wh so twice as long for only 400 more

  • +1

    How can you safely keep these from getting stolen? Any tips?

    • +2

      D-lock through the frame, another lock through the front wheel, park it in a variety of locations, remove the battery if possible, and add it as a portable specified item if you have home and contents insurance!

    • my dad has got an alarm on his one and it’s that loud ..brought it $10 from ebay

      • +1
        • yes that’s similar to my dads alarm n it’s that loud and very sensitive..he lives at cronulla and takes his bike to the beach while he swims sometimes he hears his alarm while in the water n it’s been set off by the breeze haha

          • +1

            @TrustNoBody: Setting is too sensitive if it can be set off by breeze. I think there are 7 sensitivity settings, 1 being the most sensitive and 7 being the least. I set mine to 3.

            • @edfoo: his one is only the cheapy ebay one but i may tell him to check if he can change the settings cos he did say it’s embarrassing when his bike is going off for no reason ..

              • @TrustNoBody: Not just embarrassing for him, but bloody annoying for people or shops nearby. Don't be surprised if someone got pissed off and vandalise his bike due to constant alarm going off. Better adjust the setting ASAP.

                • @edfoo: i looked you can’t do the settings …he doesn’t swim at cronulla beach but at shelly beach or greens hills where there’s hardly anyone there so he hears his bike n comes out to turn it off ..
                  also i didn’t say it constantly goes off but it has gone off ..also i would be very surprised if someone vandalised it cos he would see them n my dad isn’t the type that plays around

                  • @TrustNoBody: Hmm probably not a good idea to park an ebike at a quiet beach too. Generally it's better idea to park where there are other people around, so bike thief less inclined to steal.

  • "lightning fast" - Limited to 25 km/h. "is the only way to get to work this year" - Nobody rides a bicycle to work; everyone drives an SUV.

    • When I lived on the vic peninsula or inner city, my ute stayed at home. Just a regular old bike with decent road tyres and no suspension. If I was feeling lazy I’d take the escooter.
      Not a lot of SUV’s. Plenty of ford Rangers never used for work or off-road though. Same speed as vehicles over a 20min commute because of the traffic congestion

    • You living in America?

    • "lightning fast" because it is lightweight (for an ebike) and well geared.

      If you want a motorbike, buy a motorbike. This is a bicycle, with assist for hills and headwinds. Why do some people have trouble with that concept?

  • +3

    How’s this in comparison to the n+ Mercedes bike on sale. Post from OzBargain

  • +3

    So I went there yesterday. And came back with an ebike. The pick of the bunch IMO is the Lafree (https://www.giantwollongong.com.au/au/lafree-eplus) which is the one me & my friend both got. She was deciding between the Voya and Lafree.

    Why I like it? 60Nm Yamaha mid drive, 400Wh removable battery, all the gears & accessories for a commuter (upright position, adjustable stem, rear racks, mudguards, kickstand). It's basically a Dutch bicycle with a motor which I think is the perfect commuter combination. The only downside is - it doesn't look good.

    Half Price also at $1,700

    • Do you know if they still have many stocks left? I'm thinking of the Voya, looks good from this review

      https://www.bikeexchange.com.au/blog/momentum-voya-e3-ebike-…

      • When I got there they had the bikes outdoors and there were a few people trying various things in the carpark . There was a Voya in small and medium on Saturday afternoon. They should be able to tell you if you call as my friend did.

        The small Lafree they had 3, and we bought 2.

      • Oh and to add to my comment, they are closed Sundays so whatever they had at end of day Saturday should still stand until tomorrow .

      • They should be avke to order stock in at discount. TBSM were doing that for their sale i think its still available there too even thought their official 50% off sale finished.

  • I called them to see if they'd ship to Melbourne - nope. Contractual obligations.

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