Hi all!
This is my first deal here :) Was looking at SSD's and came across this. Looks to be cheaper by ~$7 than the last 970 Evo Plus deal posted on here.
Buy 2 (or any qualifying item) and get 5% off. I think the recommended here is the In Him Paperback which drops the price down to $244.19.
Enjoy!
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Thanks, I just read up that the SN770 works fine for the PS5. Might order one
Not recommended as it does not meet Sony's minimum PS5 spec of 5,500mbs. It may technically work on titles now but there is no guarantee it will be fine on future titles.
May as well jump to $290? You say it as if $40 doesn't matter 😂
If you can already afford to buy a 2TB SSD, no it really doesn't
You get so much more for that $40
SN850X is a class above SN770. It is a better option because 970 Evo Plus 2TB at $253 isn't very competitive. SN770, the sustained write isn't that good (and one might argue being inferior to 970 Evo Plus once the SLC cache runs out). However, if you have PCIe gen 4 on your PC, then SN770 does perform well in general.
I use an SN850X already, but as long as the drive meets minimal specs for the PS5, it'll do the job. This one with 3,300 MB/s which will not do the job since you need 5,500 MB/s minimal. So I guess I conquer.
@thousandsuns: Plenty of posts and discussions already said that the minimal 5,500MB is not compulsory, as long as you have a gen 4 ssd it will run. In the long run there may be games that shows the difference between the ssd which meets the requirement vs the one doesn't, but for now there isn't any.
@Masticccc: identifying gen 4 is easy …. does sony do a speed test and accept or reject the drive , probabaly not.
Is it mlc?
Samsung's definition of MLC is confusing and not how most people interpret MLC.
This SSD uses Samsung V-NAND 3-bit MLC. That is commonly known as TLC. Normally, when we talk about MLC SSDs, we are referring to 2-bit MLC SSDs.
tlc vs 2 bit mlc, argue,ent used to durability ….. samsung claimed to get lots of write cycles by use of larger gates so it became their tech of choice for drives to compete with mlc …… it’s qlc that seems to be the tech of lst resort when on a budget.
MLC (2-bit MLC), there are 3 issues. First one is cost, which leads to the second issue: size. The third issue is due to the use of SLC cache, and performance wise, MLC vs TLC affects mostly writes, it is difficult to highlight and sell MLC.
It's difficult to justify MLC being more reliable (because a lot of the time, the SSDs die due to other reasons). Furthermore, before TLC became mainstream, SSD makers produced different grades of MLC NAND types. Some aren't that great.
The fundamental issue is really how all SSD makers are optimising heavily with TLC (a nicer way of saying they are very good at cheating with SLC/TLC combo). You cannot sell to general customers that with a static SLC cache and MLC, you can fill the SSD from 0% to 100% a lot faster (despite having very little read benefit). You don't want to tell customers to write to SSDs like crazy.
Work on PS5?
No
Have been using this drive for about 2 years (can't remember when as bought too long ago). It's a reliable disk but compare to recent SN850X deals at around $270, it's not a very good deal, especially when your mobo supports PCIe 4.0.
Plenty of people need quick large storage, video editors come to mind, I'm sure there are others.
In terms of speed, you're mostly right: it's typically difficult to tell the difference between a decent SATA SSD vs an NVME SSD in many tasks: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA (despite the title, they do non-gaming tests as well)
In terms of capacity, the need for that varies a lot between use cases. Some will need more, some not as much. If 256GB of SSD space seems to be all you need for your usage, more power to you.
i use 400 gb on my ssd for productivity but the sammy 980 came as 1tb, i’m not a gamer , but the space inside my laptop means a larger drive also means i can store some movies …..it’s convenience ….. i tend to buy 1tb …like working with just c: …… gaming pc has 1tb ssd and 4tb had , moving stuff off the hd to the ssd from steam is a nuisance …. would have 2tb ssd if i had money to spare , and some people do …..if you can afford. a ps5, you enjoy your gaming, and part of that load speed and convenience …..people pay for experiences …. hot air balloon rides, etc ….. for some the experience is not waiting for stuff to load ….
I get where you’re coming from but you’re splitting hairs over a few hundred dollars and SSDs are no longer the most expensive part of the average PC
I would say there at least a couple of reasons why we “need” that much SSD storage on tap: 1) mostly convenience and laziness since web browsing media, downloading program installs, games these days can take up tens of gigabytes on your main drive and people can be lazy to clean up and redirecting to a HDD in a world of gigabit internet will reduce performance, and 2) virtualisation with at least 20gb per windows VM plus backups all requiring very fast storage to not bog down the entire system, and 3) the SATA queueing protocol sucks with multiple reads and writes it seriously locks up the system let alone when the drive is degrading its game over so it’s just time to upgrade its “cheap” anyway not to need to actively manage application and game storage to a HDD except maybe for long term occasional use storage
I wanted to post something
This is basically the best sdd you can get on pcie 3 right?
No the Hynix p31 gold is better
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34648149
A mate and I have also had issues with Samsung nvme SSDs recently, despite them looking fine in Crystal Disk.
You need to be more specific and provide more information (which Samsung NVMe SSDs and what issues).
It's not just 990 Pro's. Plenty of anecdotes in the HN thread I linked.
Our drives were 970's, and there's https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/samsung-870-evo-b…
Figured it was worth warning the Ozbargainers. As for more specifics, this isn't a tech site, how many people who see this deal will know about specific controllers and batch numbers? They'll see the deal/price, and click "Buy It Now" like I've done in the past.
I don't think quoting 870 EVO issues is objective enough. Reason is that from past experience, certain models of Samsung SSDs do have issues, but not all Samsung SSDs use the same technology. If the issue is so wide spread and is across all Samsung SSDs, we would have known by now.
If you have issues with 970, assuming it is 970 Evo Plus with Elpis controller, just provide some screenshots and info.
despite them looking fine in Crystal Disk
I assume you meant Crystal DiskInfo? So if it looks fine in Crystal DiskInfo, what issues do you have?
@netsurfer: Almost exactly the same issues as this HN commenter, including the game crashes:
I basically built a brand new computer part by part, including CPU/Mobo/RAM/GPU, and couldn't believe it when it turned out to be both the humble SSDs! A mate with the same issues as that comment and myself solved it by replacing the Samsung SSD.
I don't think quoting 870 EVO issues is objective enough. Reason is that from past experience, certain models of Samsung SSDs do have issues, but not all Samsung SSDs use the same technology. If the issue is so wide spread and is across all Samsung SSDs, we would have known by now.
There are issues with Evos and Pros, 970, 980 and 990:
https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/x82mwe/samsung_ss…
https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/x8arle/psa_sam…
https://www.pugetsystems.com/blog/2023/02/02/update-on-samsu…
@idonotknowwhy: Which Samsung SSDs? Your issue is while CrystalDiskInfo shows no error, you are still encountering issues or it is more like other people where there are errors (infamous 0E)? Most people report signs of errors so I am concerned it has no SMART data error and it still has issues.
The links have conflicting information and some speculations. Last one suggests for 980 Pro, certain batches of 2TB have high failure rate. There are also people suggesting firmware updates could solve the issue for 870 Evo, but previous damage couldn't be repaired (so update Samsung SSD firmware right away, especially if you have 870 Evo).
While the information is useful, it is best you just point out the exact issues you encountered. Also, what happened to your faulty SSDs? Assuming you bought them locally, my past experience with Samsung SSD RMA was alright. Did Samsung provide brand new replacements or the retailers gave you a full refund?
Price dropped to $243.85 now
Dropped again after rising $241.57
SN770 2TB for $217 seems like a better deal to me
https://amzn.asia/d/iKvqJde
Plus if you’re going to pay $250 may as well jump to $290 for a sn850x
So kind of makes your post a non-deal to me