Looks like the Tesla referral program aka "Loot box" has restarted,
"As an owner, every time you bring a new friend or family member into the Tesla community, you and your friend both earn credits — you earn Referral Credits and your friend earns Buyer Credits. You also earn Loyalty Credits when you purchase additional qualifying Tesla products, as a thank you for being a loyal Tesla owner."
Example "1500 credits for 750km supercharging credits"
"Loyalty Credit"
No deal.
Not worth referring someone and then losing a friend when they realise ypu set them up with a shit quality EV made from partd at home depot
Couple of family members have model 3s, and they are insanely good fun to drive, but I can't see how owning one of these is practical without a decent solar & battery set up at home, given the direction energy prices are going. Before anyone points out superchargers etc etc, how many of us have time to locate, potentially wait to access and then wait to charge the vehicle frequently, or have complementary access to a charger at work.
Energy prices have to go up in multiples to get anywhere near the cost of petrol. Add in the minimal servicing costs and it's much, much cheaper to run an EV over an ICE.
It's not the price of energy that I think is a barrier, it's getting that energy into the car. Do most people have the aftermarket wall connector thingo to plug into? They still take 6 or so hours to fully charge a Model 3 from what I understand. Obviously not everyone is charging from zero every day, but even accessing chargers seems like a headache. There's no way public charger deployment is keeping pace with the sale of EVs. For me that's the biggest barrier.
Do most people have the aftermarket wall connector thingo to plug into?
Yep, precisely this - you just get the charger installed into your driveway.
If you only have street parking for example, then an electric car isn't for you.
even accessing chargers seems like a headache.
Most owners charge entirely at home or workplace, you're only really going to need to use a public charger if you're on a long trip.
Model 3 LR. I use a standard wall plug, which will add 20% each night in about 7 hours. I have it configured to charge to 80%. My standard daily commute to the city including school drop offs etc is less than 20% so I am back to 80% each morning. 80% is good for 350 real km. If I am doing a big road trip then I can bring it up to 100% over a couple of days before we leave. If I need to do 300 km then it might take a week to get back up to 80%. No need for a Wall charger at home.
On a long road trip, more than 400 km you do need to charge, 10% to 90% takes about 1.5 hours with a 50kwh charger, but I find this fits nicely with a relaxed lunch break. The only inconvenient charging I have done is away on holiday when your destination doesn’t have a wall point, you end up taking the car to a charger and spending an hour playing games while it charges.
@bluey47: appreciate the detailed response, I suppose this validates what I'd already assumed, which is that EVs like the Tesla are better suited for suburban & city lifestyles.
Pretty sad when the word Tesla triggers people. Much like the word vegan. No wonder mental health issues are on the rise.. all these trigger words causing immense stress.
Its clear that both vegan and Tesla gives the cult behaviour perhaps?
This isn't good for your health
It's odd isn't it. They have no interest in the product, yet they are willing to spend their time in this deal writing multiple comments, and in some cases quite aggressive ones. I've heard it said that that anger is a manifestation of fear. That explains it.
Their logo reminds me of my female reproductive organs. Am I the only one who sees this?
Heart and soul? None.
Golf cart? Yes.
I've had the car for more than 2 years now and I've never been to a super charger, this program would be nice if there were more super chargers around but then again I guess I would still be charging at home
70k car for about $120 of credit…how is this a bargain…
because electricity doesnt; cost 2 dollars a litre like petrol.
Petrol car doesnt cost start at 50k like a EV….what's ur point
ev's don't cost you 20 to 30k in maintenance costs over 5 to 10 years like petrol car cost.
its the same cost no matter how you look at it, you just pay the cost up front with evs than later on.
@kungfuman: No car in that price range cost 20k-30k over 5 years…. Yes to 10 for some. But most less. My Honda jazz gets serviced by a friend for 150 bucks.
Plus factor in the insurance tax, as ev cost more the insurance amount is higher per year too, I’ve played around…. Ev cost more to insure
@cloudy: if you choose to get dodgy servicing then thats up to u. But for those of us that get proper servicing reguarlly with the dealership and actulaly get good tires. then the cost still stands at 20 to 30k over the course of 5 to 10 years. This all depends on how much travel you do some people can rock up 100 to 200k in 5 years. But if all you do is drive 5000km a year then ofcourse you will get low costs.
EV cost to insure is not more to insure you looking at the wrong insurers if you think that. I pay exactly the same cost as a petrol car to insure my model 3 as I did when I owned a petrol car. If you have a good insurer that actually deals with EVs, the cost is low. If you go with insurers like "Youi" then those idiots will charge you double or triple the price. For the most part because of the advanced 9 camera dash cam system on the teslas most insurers are realizing they are protected for alot of accidents because you will always have video evidence of the incident, which means people can't do a dodgy and lie about whos fault it is, so they drop the cost over other ev's on the market. I think you will find as more evs are entering the market cost of evs will drop even more, and more insurers will drop there costs even more. The myth that evs cost more to insure is a load of crap.
if you choose to get dodgy servicing then thats up to u
wow, thats a bit rich from someone who knows nothing of my friend. He is a mechanic by trade and happens to do it for a friend for a fair price. If that's how defensive you are, clearly you got problems lad.
Do some tai chi for a change
@cloudy: lol defensive its clear didn't read the entire comment or understood it. thats a bit rich coming from you. no mechanic would ever charge 150 bucks for any service, because they would simply loose money, and in reality no one pays for mechnics at such a cheap price. I state facts and you don't like it because it contradicts everything you say, and you have nothing to come back with.
@kungfuman: What do you think is involved in a standard "service" ? The raw materials cost $50 for the oil and $10 for the filter.
That's it.
You could absolutely make a profit at $150.
@Nom: pretty sure mechanics dont' work for free. For starters so there is labour costs, and also it depends on the service, if spark plugs or any other comsuable part need to be replaced the price will go up on materials just like any other petrol car. Service for most manufacturers do cost minimum 250 bucks or more depending on the vechical. Basing prices on average pricing 150 bucks is way below the norm, dispite what you think the cost should be.
@kungfuman: Did you forget we are discussing a mechanic friend ?
He's not working for free - he's charging his friend $150 for a service and making about $90 for the one hour of work.
Of course it's below the norm - that's the whole point of mate's rates.
@Nom: the point is the price average is not going to be 150 bucks as I have been saying for the last few comments not everyone is going to have 150 buck services, and in reality the costs are base on avervage costings throughout Australia not mates rates. Thats what you're not understanding its not about him, its about everyone on average.
@kungfuman: And he used the 150 dollar figure to point out that your claim
cost you 20 to 30k in maintenance costs over 5 to 10 years like petrol car cost.
is not necessarily true.
My main dealer services on a petrol hot-hatch cost $310 each and I needed two every year - at $620 annually, my 10 year total would have been $6200 plus an extra $600 that I spent on a thermostat replacement.
This total doesn't include tyres and brakes, but they are also costs that an EV will incur (you'll spend more on tyres but less on brakes).
$30,000 in 10 years would be horrifically unlucky.
$20,000 in 5 years would be even worse, and also impossible because your repairs are going to be covered under warranty in the first 5 years of your petrol car's life…
@Nom: the figures cover a wide range of cars but obvisouly is not for all cars and are not set in stone. Depending on what brand of car you have you can look at potentially much more based on the price of parts for that car, for example run flat tires on a BMW would cost you roughly 2k per tire as opposed to a corrolla that would cost you less than 1000 for a set of 4. Average cost over a number of years will depend on alot of factors and true cost can never be derived from this, only estimated. I was pointing out that a petrol can be as much or much more than a ev, dispite how much the upfront cost is intially. There is no way of knowing the true cost or what is cheaper just based on upfront cost alone.
the figures cover a wide range of cars but obvisouly is not for all cars and are not set in stone.
those figures are plucked out of thin air…use more realistic figures if you want a sensible debate.
You're claim its 3-4k per annum as an average has been shown as BS, admit it.
defensive its clear didn't read the entire comment
Why should anyone read your comments when you make sht up?
You lose your credibility, then you say sht like 20k for 5 years ($4,000 pa), or 30k for 10 years($3,000 pa), its just BS, not everyone is driving a lux vehicle, and when I point out real life cost i experience you are dismissive.
I'm about to buy a new car, and I will probably buy an EV, but it's pugnacious people such as yourself that gives Tesla and EVs a bad rap.
You would do EVs a favour if you just shoved a sock in it
@cloudy: omg you really do need to do your research this is an average based on multiple vechicles over 5 to 10 years. from the cheapest to the most expensive it averages out to be those costings.
EV cost to insure is not more to insure you looking at the wrong insurers if you think that
and oh, thought of my kungfu mf when i read this. Proves the fantasy you live in.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/scratc…
@cloudy: first of all if you actually read you own articles doesnt mention anythign about Australian insurers, so good job on not doing good research. Secondly in the REAL world not your fantasy you live in, I pay 120 bucks a month for full compehensive insurance with Allianz on a model 3 that includes windshield coverage and choice of insurer, and 6 months of free car rental if I was ever in a accident. Soooooo…… if you had done actual research you would know that you can get similar pricing to what you can get on any other car. But yes quote more American articles it makes us all laugh.
@kungfuman: woah, 120 a month and u speak like you got a good deal :S
you know the movie dumb and dumber, i thought i was talking to the former, but now i know im speaking to the later.
This is like that long lost friend that messages everyone. Exclusive pyramid wellness type referral program
Is there an alternative to the model y that is just as large? The atto 3 seems much smaller.
does this cover tesla accessories too if you buy them from the shop?
wanting to know this too
For anyone like me wondering why it's only showing Solar stuff, switch the site to AU and the car will show!
How do you earn credits for buying a wall charger?
Why is this even on ozbargain? I don't understand what the "discount" is supposed to be here?
Using a referral code now gives the buyer $750 off their new Tesla! That's a Discount! :)
@Aureus: Oh no, the whiny sycophant is running away from the argument tail 'twixt legs, however will we manage?