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Electric Vehicle Government Subsidies, Registration, Stamp Duty Discounts @ States & Federal Governments

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Electric Vehicle Government Subsidies, Registration, Stamp Duty Discounts @ States & Federal Governments
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Scrooge McDeal on 05/03/2023 - 13:22 whichcar.com.au (3907 clicks)
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I don't know where these post belong. If Mods believe it belongs into Forum then they can remove it.
I found an article that has very good information regarding EV Incentives in Federal, States and Territory.
These post is for people that thinking of purchasing an EV vehicle and inform them about the various available incentives by Federal, States and Territory.

Federal https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislat…
Incentives
The Labor Government launched its first ever electric vehicle strategy in September 2022, and in November 2022, the Treasury Laws Amendment (Electric Car Discount) Bill passed through the Federal Parliament, which will provide up to $2000 off the purchase price of battery-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles (PHEV), as well as Fringe Benefits Tax (FBT) exemptions for fleets and novated leases.
The Government will apply the exemption retrospectively to eligible cars first used on or after July 1, 2022.
PHEVs will initially be covered, but the offer will expire on April 1, 2025.
Tax
The Luxury Car Tax threshold for low-emission vehicles has been raised to $84,916, from the standard vehicle starting rate of $71,849.
Alongside the removal of the Fringe Benefits Tax the five per cent import tariff for EVs priced under the LCT limit has been cut.
The FBT savings amount to $9000 per annum for an employer, or $4700 for an individual with a salary sacrifice agreement for a $50k electric vehicle.
Cutting import tariffs drops purchase prices by a further $2500, according to the documents.

NEW SOUTH WALES official gov. website

Incentives
$3000 rebate for the first 25,000 EVs or FCEVs sold which are priced under $68,750 – but read the fine print, the offer is on the RRP plus the delivery charge and optional extras
Stamp duty waived on both types of vehicle under $78,000 – all from September 1, 2021
EV drivers can also use T2 and T3 transit lanes across NSW
Registration fee discounts.
Tax
2.5c/km BEV, 2c/km PHEV – but only as of July 1, 2027

VICTORIA official gov. website

Incentives
$3000 subsidy given for the first 20,000 EVs or FCEVs sold which are priced under $68,740,** as with NSW the **offer is on the RRP plus the delivery charge and optional extras
Reduced stamp duty rates
$100 discount on registration annually.
Tax
2.6c/km BEV, 2.1c/km PHEV from July 1, 2022

Update: as of June 30th 2023, The Victorian government has ended this scheme.

QUEENSLAND official gov. website

Incentives
$3000 rebate for new BEVs up to $58,000 on 15,000 cars as of March 16, 2022, like the other states the **offer is on the RRP plus the delivery charge and optional extras
Lowest car registration for BEVs – $263 a year
Lower stamp duty rates than ICE cars.
Tax
No plans at this time.

AUSTRALIAN CAPITAL TERRITORY official gov. website

Incentives
Two years’ free registration for BEVs and FCEVs as of May 24, 2021 until June 30, 2024
Older EVs eligible for 20 per cent off rego fees
Stamp duty may also be waived on vehicles purchased for the first time
ACT drivers are also able to access up to $15,000 in interest-free loans to help cover the upfront purchase cost of an electric vehicle up to a cap of $77,565.
Tax
None yet – Distance and/or congestion based charging for all vehicle types “may be considered in the medium term”.

NORTHERN TERRITORY official gov. website

Incentive
BEVs and PHEVs to get cheaper rego and stamp duty from July 2022, the latter slashed by $1500
Discounts to last five years
Grants for home, workplace and public EV chargers, and opportunities offered to develop local skills to service technology and install infrastructure.
Tax
None – No current proposal, could possibly be in the long term.

TASMANIA official gov. website

Incentives
Two years’ free stamp duty for new and second-hand EVs as of July 1, 2021
Two years’ free rego on EVs purchased by car rental companies and coach operators.
Tax
Not plans at this time, but will monitor based on what’s happening in other states.

SOUTH AUSTRALIA official gov. website

Incentives
7000 subsidies worth $3000 taken off purchase price at point of sale, for a limited (unspecified) time only up to value of $68,750 **– this one is tricky, SA says the **offer "may or may not" include the delivery charge and optional extras depending on whether it is used to calculate stamp duty
Three years' free registration for vehicles first registered from October 28, 2021 up to June 30, 2025
Up to $2000 to install EV smart chargers at home, but limited to 7500 households.
Tax
EV tax initially pushed back from July 1, 2022 to July 1, 2027 or 30 per cent uptake (whichever comes first) – same as NSW – but was repealed by the State's Parliament in February 2023 due to public backlash
Would have meant a 2c/km charge for plug-in hybrid vehicles, and 2.5c/km for any other electric vehicles
Calculated and billed in arrears as part of the vehicle registration process and based on the distance travelled since the last renewal.

WESTERN AUSTRALIA official gov. website

Incentives
EVs exempt from 10 per cent on-demand transport levy
Largest incentive offer in Australia – $3500 rebate for the first 10,000 Western Australians to buy an EV or FCEV from May 10, applying to vehicles under $70,000 before on-road costs, note the offer is on the RRP plus the delivery charge and optional extras.
Tax
EV tax to start from July 1, 2027
2c/km km for plug-in hybrid vehicles, and 2.5c/km for any other electric vehicles.

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Comments

        • Clear on 06/03/2023 - 11:48

          Let me rephrase. Not all EV's are luxury cars.

  • Delilahgetsaround on 05/03/2023 - 20:12

    This gives job security to myself and others who are currently working at coal mines and power plants. Most coal plants will have to double and almost triple their current supplies.

    • SBOB on 05/03/2023 - 20:28
      +2

      Most coal plants will have to double and almost triple their current supplies.

      Exactly what increase in total yearly MWh do you think would occur for the Australian electricity grid if every vehicle was to transition to electric? As it's not 2-300%.

      • Delilahgetsaround on 05/03/2023 - 20:52
        +1

        I'm not sure about the exact MWH but the coal production for Tarong/Meandu mine (government owned Stanwell) is going from 4.5m tonne to 6.8m to try keep up this year. Also government has gave them $1b to try upgrade and prolong its life.

        • SBOB on 05/03/2023 - 21:02
          +1

          Of which clearly none is realted to ev uptake due to the current size of the ev market.

          • Delilahgetsaround on 05/03/2023 - 21:17
            +1

            @SBOB: Qld reported in 2020 3600 EV
            2022 reported it had 8000 EV
            Say the average capacity is 60kwh
            That's around
            480,000Kwh
            480Mwh
            Tarongs output is 1500-2000Mwh

            None of tarongs power is going to EV?

            Note the grid is interconnected with NSW that has a higher EV uptake.

            • SBOB on 05/03/2023 - 21:29
              +1

              @Delilahgetsaround:

              That's around
              480,000Kwh
              480Mwh

              So your maths is that every ev, charges completely, every day of the week? That's now how it works.

              I didn't say none…I said you aren't increasing your coal requirements and power output 2-3x due to elec vehicle uptake.

              Even if all the cars went ev our yearly MWh consumption would raise something like 30% (based on current km usage), though that excludes potential peak usage periods, but considering more and more move to TOU billing, EV charging in non peak tariff periods is pretty standard.

              (Don't own an ev, wouldn't currently but an ev, just my engineering background prefers facts over hyperbole )

              The increase in output, and funding to stay open longer, is that we have so many power stations running towards or past end of life, with minimal electrical security future planning. When you kick a can down the road so far, eventually you run out of road.

              You can easily see on yearly NEM trends, we don't have massive multiplier gains happening. There no huge increase in consumption.
              https://www.aer.gov.au/wholesale-markets/wholesale-statistic…

            • Mrgreenz on 05/03/2023 - 22:03

              @Delilahgetsaround: So the Tarong powerstation could charge every EV in QLD from dead flat to fully charged with 20 minutesof its output. Then on average usage it would do it again in a weeks time or so.

              • Delilahgetsaround on 05/03/2023 - 22:07

                @Mrgreenz: It mainly supplies power between 5-7pm when the sun is down and people get home from work etc.
                My maths was a quick example as to why EV do have an impact on a grid.

                Well no it wouldn't be able to charge them all in 20mins as the average charge time on a 10a at home is around 40 hours.

                • Mrgreenz on 05/03/2023 - 22:14

                  @Delilahgetsaround: Everything has an impact on the grid, currently EV impact isn't so large. As shown:

                  8000 x 60kwh = 480MwH

                  Tarong = 1400MW

                  480/1400 = 0.34h

                  20 mins of 1 powerstations output

    • M00Cow on 05/03/2023 - 23:44

      This gives job security to myself and others who are currently working at coal mines

      Only If exports pick up.

      Most coal plants will have to double and almost triple their current supplies.

      Because of the ever decreasing use of coal as a feature in our energy mix. Dropped from 80% to under 50% in the past 15yrs.

      Coking Coal is where it's at.

      • Delilahgetsaround on 06/03/2023 - 01:20

        Does that mean as coal consumption rapidly decreases, global temperatures rapidly increase.

        We must burn more.

  • squaredonut on 05/03/2023 - 20:12

    Does anyone know the 2025 end date of PHEV's being exempted, is that the last date by which you have to begin your lease, or do you need to make your lease period end before that date?

    • meowsers on 05/03/2023 - 21:22
      +2

      You'll be grandfathered if you start your lease before then.

  • THICKnSLOW on 05/03/2023 - 22:13

    Its a good initiative for those who can salary sacrifice and get a novated lease.

    But what about the rest of us who AREN'T on a payroll, who work just as hard to make a living and want to improve our carbon emissions but can't afford an EV just yet.

    • Mrgreenz on 05/03/2023 - 22:19
      +2

      All the people in there nice comfortable salary jobs will talk of how much of a filthy animal you are in your polution producing peasant wagon and how your not paying enough fuel duty to provide them with tax free usage of the road and highway network.

    • M00Cow on 05/03/2023 - 23:46

      Take public transport, ride a bicycle or walk.

    • LlamaLlamaLamp on 06/03/2023 - 16:23

      The number of EVs in the used car market will dramatically increase over the following years.

  • [Deactivated] on 05/03/2023 - 22:49

    VIC Tax
    2.6c/km BEV

    Means on an average 15,000 km per annum equates to an additional $390 Dan tax per annum just to own an EV

    Ouch!

    • meowsers on 05/03/2023 - 22:52
      +2

      The high court case vanderstock et Al will decide this soon.

      Another reason not to register in the people’s republic of Victoria.

      In any case it’s an allowable reimbursement under novated leases. You still come out ahead vs petrol

    • M00Cow on 05/03/2023 - 23:50

      $390 Dan tax per annum just to own an EV
      Ouch!

      Much cheaper then your $520/yr subscription to The Australian

      • [Deactivated] on 06/03/2023 - 10:15

        I don't have a subscription to The Australian

        I feel triggered now by your hurtful comments
        … Ozb user goes to hug a tree … but tree covered in hundreds of black Witchetty grubs

        My pronouns: "doesn't like reading moronic comments by Dumb Ass Dan Fanbois"

  • CowFrogHorse on 06/03/2023 - 00:13
    +1

    Amazing how the sheep think EV is the answer, without ever WHO has said this ?

  • Thaal Sinestro on 06/03/2023 - 03:16

    More middle class welfare. How disgusting.

    How about helping the poor instead, ALP?

    • ElderyMan on 10/03/2023 - 08:02
      +2

      Poor and healthy people can work harder to improve their lives. Your life quality is in your hands mate.

  • Bearlion on 06/03/2023 - 05:45
    +1

    Coincides with soaring electricity prices…

  • DPW on 06/03/2023 - 07:52

    Tasmania absolutely does intend on introducing a road user charge. Please see the response from the Premier in April 2022 when I asked the question

    “ In the 2021‑22 Budget, the Government announced the introduction of a road user charge for zero and low emission vehicles from 1 July 2027 or when zero and low emission vehicles make up 30 per cent of all new vehicle sales, in line with the approach taken in New South Wales and South Australia.”

    • Clear on 06/03/2023 - 08:45
      +1

      That's why we bought early. Plus no waiting times.

      • shap08 on 06/03/2023 - 09:18

        What did you get?

  • BluebirdV on 06/03/2023 - 09:10

    What is the reasoning behind EVs being taxed per km? Why not apply this to conventional vehicles instead? More profit for the government.

    • idonotknowwhy on 06/03/2023 - 09:23

      What is the reasoning behind EVs being taxed per km? Why not apply this to conventional vehicles instead?

      I don't know, but my guess is, less people (voters) own EVs.

    • Aureus on 06/03/2023 - 09:44
      +1

      Fuel excise is meant to pay for the roads (even though the government collects more excise then they spend on roads.)

      Per KM charge is meant to make up for the excise not collected.

    • [Deactivated] on 06/03/2023 - 10:11
      -1

      Because Dumb F$#k Dan is a moron in the people’s republic of Victoria.

      • wisdomtooth on 06/03/2023 - 11:29
        +1

        Land tax should pay for roads; fuel excise is just another GST (as mostly all goods and service people need to be transported), which is highly regressive.

  • bigbadboogieman on 06/03/2023 - 09:21

    Another way to take from the general populace (rich and poor) and give it to the rich (or not so poor) all the while there is a housing crisis at hand. Disgrace.

    • lostgoat on 06/03/2023 - 09:32
      +1

      There is plenty of people still that pay huge ( not all are into tax minimization) income taxes that benefit a lot of society and they deserve and have paid for an opportunity to have a thrill with a Ev in my books .

  • lickjimmy1 on 06/03/2023 - 09:26
    +1

    Any calculators that can provide objective math on selling my current car and buying an EV? Struggling to find the info

    • NoBargainNoLife on 06/03/2023 - 09:48
      +3

      Purely depending on your lifestyle and vehicle usage. I benefited a lot from the switching.

      If you drive 20k kms/year,
      my petrol car was 8L/100km, effectively 1600L petrol * $2/L = $3200 a year.
      Tesla model 3: 15kw/100km, effectively 3000kwh per annual. if your electricity rate is $30cents/kw, $900 in total per year. (If you have solar then $0)

      Log book service: 700-1000/ year.
      Tesla doesn’t need service: $0. If you do need something, they COME to you.

      Rego: petrol $850
      Tesla: $0 for first two years then around $200-300 states depended.

      Convenience:
      No going to petrol stations anymore. Every morning wake up with full tank of “fuel”, ~400km range. Best thing ever.
      Long trips: I have done a 3500km road trip in one go: Canberra Bendigo Melbourne Adelaide Mildura, waga waga, Sydney. Never had any problem, stretch your legs to do 20mins charging after 3 hours driving, not a bad idea. But be aware the fast chargers on the road are more expensive than you charging at home, ranging from 40cent to 69cents.
      Download ABRP app on your phone, type in your final destination, if will make a route plan for you including where to charge and how long to charge at each stop.

      Can’t answer selling you existing car, value etc, but if yours is old enough and you are in the market for a new car, definitely think about EV, especially if you have a garage with a normal power point.

      • try2bhelpful on 06/03/2023 - 09:54
        +3

        Thanks for the info. Our EV would double as our battery at home. A number of motels are beginning to provide charging overnight as well.

      • wisdomtooth on 06/03/2023 - 11:25
        -4

        Tesla doesn’t need service

        Really?? How can that be? Even Toyotas need service.

        • NoBargainNoLife on 06/03/2023 - 11:43
          +4

          No engine no transmission no oil changing. No mandatory log book service for Teslas.

          But they do recommend Every two years check the brake system for safety purpose. Other than that, just tyre rotation when you needed and top up your windshield washer liquid by yourself. Air filter you can D.I.Y. as well or log a service on Tesla app, then they come to you.

      • lickjimmy1 on 06/03/2023 - 13:11
        +1

        Thanks mate… Super helpful… Just the petrol alone (I have a big solar system) is a big consideration.. your calcs above don't even include the FBT and gov discount on the car which would be on top..

        • NoBargainNoLife on 06/03/2023 - 15:05
          +3

          Yes. Not everyone has access to FBT etc but all have access to the above I mentioned. People who keep saying EV is impractical they just don’t know or refuse to admit how many chargers around already, let along more chargers are on the way.

          People living in apartment I wouldnt suggest them to go EV right now unless there are fast chargers next door. Charge half an hour ish a week thats all they need, but still not ultra convenient comparing to charging at home.

          For your situation you have solar then it’s a no brainer. Go and get an EV.

  • DMetal on 06/03/2023 - 11:09
    +2

    Climate Change tax to benefit the wealthy… Nice

    For those who can afford 95k cars and leave the rest of the peasant tax payers to foot the bill and EV manufacturers to increase their prices.

    • wisdomtooth on 06/03/2023 - 11:20

      Exactly! Worth a neg.

  • MyUsernameNotTaken on 06/03/2023 - 11:19
    -2

    TLDR - production of electric cars emits way more than combustion engine cars. Need to focus on fossil fuel extraction before anything else.

    "When using the average global energy supply, a Volvo C40 Recharge will need to cover 68,300 miles (109,918 km) before it breaks even with the ICE XC40 — in this scenario, that’s over half of the car’s lifetime. However, over that lifespan, the EV will account for 15 percent fewer overall emissions than the ICE vehicle.

    Running the C40 on the EU28 electricity scenario doubles the overall reduction in emissions to 30 percent and reduces the breakeven point to 48,000 miles (77,248 km). And if you’re able to charge your C40 on renewable energy alone, the carbon footprint of the EV is half that of the ICE, breaking even in just over 30,000 miles (48,280 km)."

    https://www.carscoops.com/2021/11/volvo-says-manufacturing-a…

    • Nom on 07/03/2023 - 23:06
      +2

      Er, the TLDR is : However, when the car’s lifetime is factored in, a breakeven is reached, and the EV’s total carbon footprint is less compared to that of the ICE vehicle’s. as per the article you linked.
      Not sure why you only quoted half of the conclusion 🤷🏼‍♂️

      • MyUsernameNotTaken on 08/03/2023 - 19:45

        I just mean to show that its really not the saviour for climate change that governments try to position it as, yes we need electric at some point, but we need them to run on renewable based electricity. Im sure thats nothing you dont already know, my takeaway is that electric car production increases emissions short term, and then sure by the time its been driven 150k km or whatever it was it breaks even.

        • MyUsernameNotTaken on 08/03/2023 - 19:46

          While points of no return pass us by, in that 10-15 year carlife, and we were focussing on the greenwashing. Also I literally quoted the breakeven points in the original post…

  • Mozzmanau on 06/03/2023 - 13:34
    +1

    Electricity prices in Victoria set up rise by 27% and Dan is teaching electric vehicles so no real advantage here

    • [Deactivated] on 06/03/2023 - 22:49

      That's because Dumb Ass Dan after 15 years in government has never bothered to setup a Gas / Coal Reservation policy like in WA

      Easy to spend Tax payer dollars to build $160 Billion train loop in the middle of no where and send the state into bankruptcy and higher taxes in VIC to pay it off for generations to come

  • packeteer on 06/03/2023 - 13:53

    anyone know if there is provision for electric motorcycles?

  • shoppe on 06/03/2023 - 14:04
    +1

    Why is the registration cheaper for EV's?

    • wisdomtooth on 07/03/2023 - 18:28
      +2

      Bc we taxpayers pay for it?

  • ArnoldSchwarzenegger on 06/03/2023 - 14:47

    Anyone know how to claim the federal $2000 off the purchase price of new EV and PHEVs?

    • LlamaLlamaLamp on 06/03/2023 - 16:30
      +2

      If you're talking about the 5% tariff, the OP is misleading as most EVs are manufactured in countries where a free trade agreement is in place and so the cars aren't subject to the 5% tariff in the first place.

      • ArnoldSchwarzenegger on 06/03/2023 - 21:27

        Nah, I meant this:
        "The Labor Government launched its first ever electric vehicle strategy in September 2022, and in November 2022, the Treasury Laws Amendment (Electric Car Discount) Bill passed through the Federal Parliament, which will provide up to $2000 off the purchase price of battery-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles (PHEV), as well as Fringe Benefits Tax (FBT) exemptions for fleets and novated leases."

        https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislat…, this link talks about the bill being passed but there isn't any information about how you claim the $2000.

        • merocky5 on 10/06/2023 - 19:27

          I also had the same question, how to get the $2000 federal subsidy? Never read anywhere about it before.

  • [Deactivated] on 06/03/2023 - 21:46

    Electric vehicles… so good people need to be bribed to buy them.

    • Drakesy on 08/03/2023 - 19:15

      Not really.

      Norway has 20% of all vehicles now being EV
      Norway also has 79% of all new vehicles being EV.

      Guess what, they didn't bribe people to buy them - they used tax breaks instead (which actually work as they can't be eaten up by manufacturers). They also had a government that gave a firm direction on EV uptake that led the industry (something that SCOMO was horribly incapable of doing in case he upset the oil cartel).

      • [Deactivated] on 08/03/2023 - 20:58
        -3

        Guess what, they didn't bribe people to buy them

        This is Australia not Norway. Norway is about 385,000 km² with pristine roads while Australia is about 7.7 million km² with many roads that REQUIRE a 4x4, and that's not counting the ones that a two-passenger smart car could navigate ok but regularly get washed away by floods.

        It's a given EVs will be ok to begin with, in cities anyway. But thanks to the Greens (who dictate Labor policies - not that Liberal is much better), they will prove to be a huge mistake. Greens want all forms of power stations dead (coal, gas, nuclear). Instead they want limitless cash, grants, and subsidies poured into "renewables" (which aren't actually renewable - it's a fantasy and will cost increasingly more over time, not less - requiring ever more government funds i.e. Take more tax, we get less pay).

        Then of course there's our low road quality, vast distances, less population concentration, etc all of which make Australia completely different to such places.

        As more EVs are sold thus more will require charging. We will start having rolling blackouts - just as the USA has been experiencing in spite of having states prolific with the most developed EV charging network on the planet.

        EVs combined with naive energy polices (which they show no hint of changing or even recognising will be necessary) WILL drag our grid/s offline. Because they don't admit what is slapping them across the face it will take DECADES to turn around - which means they never will. Instead more onerous rules and restrictions will reduce vehicle use, to delay grid failure.

        EVs mean less and less freedom and choice over time. We'll be ordered to only charge during certain hours and if you charge anyway you'll be "fined" for "high energy use" - first via higher rates, but then a real fine. Which of course means ALL electricity used during those same hours will also be charged at a higher price. The extra charging charge, tariffs, etc also mean electricity will be considered a "scarce resource" now. Thus we'll be charged even more for ALL forms of electricity use, plus the increased cost of building and maintaining a network that by design will continuing increasing prices. (Because the simply fact is the current methods of producing power are cheaper, more effective, easier to maintain, etc.)

        Once they've forced enough people to switch through increasing costs, the subsidies will end because they don't have to persuade people anymore. i.e. Less fuel being sold will have made it scarce TOO - so driven up its price/s, so more people will reflex-buy an EV thinking thinking they'll save long term, but it will be just be the LPG grant over again. Any price benefit will only last a short time. The cost to instal and maintain RELIABLE remote charging stations with huge battery banks trucking companies will require, the huge solar arrays to charge tonnes of batteries… it will make the cost of recharging an EV a multiple of what fuels would have been.

        The charging network will probably have to go private, which means more cost, and/or you'll probably have to rent some kind of pass and/or book ahead days in advance to charge. i.e. Food/medication/etc transport will be more important than holidaying. So you'll have to book your EV charge ahead of time so all the trucks through remote areas KNOW they will have the capacity to recharge to return to city depots.

        You can forget family driving holidays, sightseeing through the outback in an offroad caravan. You'll be sitting in a tourist Ebus, probably built in China. (Just hope when it craps itself a few hundred km from anywhere with water or phone coverage that Mick Taylor doesn't have bulk diesel stored for his now outlawed Landcruiser.) ;-p

        Yes, buy an EV to save money, only to be told when and where you can use it, until you're finally told you can only buy a bus ticket.

        • Drakesy on 08/03/2023 - 21:14

          Ngl
          That was a rambling mess

  • trevor99 on 06/03/2023 - 22:38

    Do you junk them when the battery is finished like a phone?

    • NoBargainNoLife on 06/03/2023 - 23:35
      +4

      Battery is the least thing you should worry about. Never heard a single person had to replace batteries.

      Because Phone battery you run flat then full charge everyday, for car having 400km range you run flat over a week. If your phone battery die after 2-3 years, then car’s battery die over 14-21 years.

      Only a couple of people in US who excessively drive their Teslas have done over 1 million kms only replaced once.

      Not sure about other brands but at least for Tesla, the battery warranty is 160k kms, if your battery degraded over 30% you get free replacement.

      For ICE cars driven 160k kms, I cant image how many parts would require replacement, even for major parts like engine and transmission failures are not rare, Toyota included.

      • [Deactivated] on 08/03/2023 - 21:33
        -1

        Never heard a single person had to replace batteries.

        Because they don't keep them. I've lost count of the people who said they bought an EV to "save on rising fuel costs" but only keep it 3-4 years before buying new again, thus losing more in depreciation than they would have spent on fuel (and which they could have "recharged" their fuel tank just about anywhere).

        For ICE cars driven 160k kms, I cant image how many parts would require replacement, even for major parts like engine and transmission failures are not rare, Toyota included.

        My car is 31 years old. I've replaced a few sets of brake pads at about $140 each time, an oil filter every 6 months at about $12 each, rotors skimmed for about $30 each, and… um… oh yeah tyres. But they don't count right, since EVs also have tyres. So back to my parts list… hm… nope, that's it. I did buy a box of parts 7 years ago like rubber belts and oil seals but haven't needed to replace one yet. I've passed the last few regos without any work required. About seven years ago the front suspension needed new rubber bushes… about $20 each for 4 bushes. Nothing else.

        Meanwhile I don't need to plan ahead, search, or install a charging station in my garage. I just "recharge" my fuel tank at the many petrol stations minutes apart up and down most of the east coast. I can also drive to, and then through, the outback without worrying about dying of thirst on the side of the road due to a depleted battery, blown $2 fuse, $15 sensor, etc that tells a computer "gearbox is not turning - disengage drive" by carrying a couple of fuel containers instead of 7 times that number plus a generator to recharge when a charging station is under repair or just NOT ONE. ;-p

        Oh and when I do need to change those rubber belts, replace brake pads, remove the rotors to be skimmed, repack their bearings with grease, change a water pump, fuel injector, spark plugs, O2 sensor, muffler… heck, most things on the car… I can do it myself or get a more experienced friend to instead of being forced to go to a dealer for everything and plug into a proprietary computer which will cost $$$ before they even replace something, which they'll probably get wrong and require several visits anyway. (This happens with ICE cars too, so EVs would be even worse because they're like Harvey Norman computer salesmen - just swap circuit boards until problem goes away and hope it wasn't an intermittent fault in another circuit board that comes back at the third speed hump.)

        • Drakesy on 09/03/2023 - 18:39

          Geez, who hurt you?

          Or are you Angus Taylor in disguise

          • [Deactivated] on 09/03/2023 - 19:05
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            @Drakesy: All these people I've never heard of, and therefore don't get the references of either, lol. That's the second one today. I'm glad I stopped watching TV and reading newspapers over 20 years ago.

    • try2bhelpful on 07/03/2023 - 09:29
      +1

      Once the schemes are up and running the batteries are likely to be reused for home storage. They have a lot of life left after they are no longer suitable for cars.

  • abuseyourdna on 08/03/2023 - 16:49

    The VIC 2.6c/km BEV TAX is so bad bad bad bad~~~

  • Drakesy on 08/03/2023 - 19:12

    NGL, BYD increasing their vehicle prices by the value of the subsidy was a dog act.

    But as with anything subsidised by the government the supplier generally eats it up as pure profit. Good in theory, not in reality.
    It's a sugar hit, similar to the home building grants during covid. Yes the intention is to spur people into buying them, but the whole subsidy pretty much disappeared overnight.

    I'm more for tax breaks rather than direct subsidies.

  • tanastra on 26/03/2023 - 10:36
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    Love the ev tax , got them in before way too late and too controversial, why would you give away anything for free to public ??!! Politicians jobs are to distribute wealth from poor to the wealthy .

  • FrugalFrodo on 30/11/2023 - 11:16

    People from NSW that have applied to the EV rebate. How long did you had to wait from submission to receiving the 3k?

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