Might be of interest for the rural folk out there.
For a limited time, get your Starlink kit for over 75% off in select areas of rural Australia + New Zealand.
RURAL LIMITED TIME OFFER
$199 FOR HARDWARE ($924 RRP)
No contracts, 30-day trial.
Shipping times are currently estimated to be 1-2 weeks.
$139/mo for service and $199 for hardware (rural) or $599 for hardware in the rest of Australia, and possibly $30 delivery fee.
1 Month of free service for referrer and referee.
Damn. Paid 450 last month and it's saying I'm rural.
Cancel & return hardware within 30 day trial period & you'll get your money back less the $30 shipping
Reorder under another email addy
Am I missing something here or is this a slightly worse deal than the previous deal which just expired? I was still seeing ads for it the past few days.
That deal was $450 with 2 months free, making the dish $172. This deal is $199 but doesn't look like it comes with 2 free months, and you have to be in a rural area.
If the referral system works, might get a free month
Agree. People are just seekng the $199.
Good point. Didn't realise they had dropped the two free months!
Anybody had experience playing games like FIFA with this service? Stuck on wireless NBN where I live and get 40-70ms. Surely this couldn't be worse?
Whats the go with selling it after im finished with it?
Moving out to the country with fixed wireless for a year and probs moving back city.
Any rules in selling it?
I can see a number of people selling their dish on Facebook. I think they need to have some sort of returns cashback otherwise I think there could be a lot of waste generated by all these dish once people are finished with the service.
How different is that to any other internet service? Isn't there a lot more waste from the far larger number of mobile broadband devices that get retired?
True. However, other services generally speaking, have a small modem I could repurpose quite easily or put in the e-waste recycle at places like Officeworks. With Starlink, Dishy doesn't quite fit and I don't know if they would recycle this the same?!
Looks like the interest on the Twitter loans are starting to hit Elmo hard
Touched a nerve with the Elmo Bros, by the look
Amazing technology, just shows how difficult it is to introduce revolutionary technology to remote Australia as it's something I would have pounced on within days of it coming online. Sky Muster is an absolute joke compared to Starlink.
Nbn ain't much better.
My grandparents farm had only expensive dial-up for like a decade after ADSL went live in Australia. NBN like speeds in proper outback locations is a game changer.
The real NBN (FTTP) is actually very good.
I dont know. My pseudo nbn (FTTC) been rock solid since i got it.
Anyone know If I buy this device then relocate to South East Asia in a few months will I be able to update the address and avail the lower monthly fees in that country?
Also want to know as this would be great to have in a long holiday overseas. I think starlink is only available in some countries
Yes. Lots of youtube videos either about this, or mentioned in the comments sections.
Until they recently changed it you could even drive around with it mounted on the roof of a vehicle. There are videos showing how to 3D print (public library) a base to fit the main panel part and silicone it to the roof, showing where to cut the original casing using something like a dremel tool, how to disable the tilt motors and set the app to stop trying to move them, and even how to use it WHILE DRIVING. But now they demand a "please explain" and more $$ if you start using it that way.
How about put in a random address and ship to the main address? or collect at a post?
Cheers OP! Rural price accepted for Melton South, 3338.
Same for wyndham vale vic 3024.
Not coming up as rural for a 85 acre farm 30 mins from a supermarket
That's ridiculous, I have 4 supermarkets within 5 minutes drive and I live in suburbia but it says I'm rural.
Maybe rural to them is really just underutilised ground stations?
You need an 850,000 acre farm 30 hours from a supermarket!!
My review after a month, pings are bad and variable, upload speed is ass and download speed can be anything from incredible to poor. Had a few outages for granted only minutes at a time but they are annoying. My son hates it for gaming and preferred 4G, often shows the poor connection icon in Fortnite. Much more expensive than 4G through optus but at least there is no data cap (yet, they have introduced a 1TB limit in the USA), performance about the same for streaming but worse for gaming.
If you can get decent NBN I'd stick with that.
If you can get decent NBN I'd stick with that.
That's why people go with Starlink because they cannot get decent NBN.
I've done two Starlink installs where NBN has been terrible or they have maxed out the NBN satellite data limit.
Obviously.
I'll also add that the router sucks and you need to spend another $60 or to add ethernet capability with an adaptor to use a better router.
I'll also add that the router sucks and you need to spend another $60 or to add ethernet capability with an adaptor to use a better router.
Agree with this! Lesson learnt on my first install was to always get people to buy the ethernet adaptor.
Curious, what makes the router suck?
@eug: You cannot modify anything and there is no default ethernet port. Its all WiFi by default. You cannot modify any of the LAN settings, its very locked down.
Better to go Starlink Router > 3rd Party Controller > then control everything from there.
@geekcohen: Oh right, so really the factory router works fine unless you want to tweak any settings or use Ethernet.
@eug: Somewhat, yes. I did WiFi Name change and then couldn't connect to the device again, even though I didn't change the password. It was a bit of a pain. I had to do a reset which then lost all of the "obstacle memories".
@geekcohen: Yeah they really designed it for the plug-and-play crowd. I suppose by locking it down, far fewer things can go wrong which means fewer support calls for them. More advanced users would be able to figure things out themselves.
FWIW I changed the SSID on my factory router and it worked fine.
G'day.
First of all, I'm not doubting you or saying anything negative toward you at all. I'm really sorry it turned out that way for you.
I'm the opposite and it's a hugely positive experience with excellent speeds most of the time, with barely any slow down at all, other than the random drop outs that are thankfully infrequent. Dishy is on a mast with a totally clear line of sight in Northern Vic.
Just wondering if you have an obstructed view or that you can think of any other factors as my experience is dramatically different with my family of 9 here.
Really sorry to read this and good luck.
I'm the opposite and it's a hugely positive experience with excellent speeds most of the time
Thanks for posting that. People typically only bother posting when they're dissatisfied with something; if the service works great they'll just be using it happily and not bother looking to post on a forum about it.
As a result people end up reading more negative reports than positive and assume everyone is having a poor experience when it may not be the case.
Thank you for backing up what I said a month or so ago
Anyway, I just bought it, more so for roaming to remote areas - the discount is worth it
Lol. Canberra CBD qualifies for the $199 rural pricing 😅😅😅
So SpaceX are simply stating what everyone knows…
I guess less users = rural haha
I live in the only spot in QLD that doesn’t have starlink available.
NBN not an option and skymuster is all I can get!
Telstra is 1 bar and 3G and no copper.
FarQ Eudlo, backwards fake country town musk hates 😂 lol
Surely just use a family or friends address that qualifies and install at your place. Very unlikely lto have any issues
Didn’t know you could do this..
Can anyone confirm?
Should work
anyone run this setup off a battery before? how much power do they use up. wondering how long I could run on a 100ah battery.
My stock router and dish was pulling anywhere from 35-50W (heater off) depending on what was happening. Uploading will use more power of course.How long it'll run off your battery depends on how efficient your inverter is and how deeply you want to discharge your battery.
If you stop at 80Ah and don't have anything else connected to your battery, assuming your inverter is 90% efficient, you should get about 17.3 hours at 50W or 24.7 hours at 35W.
The smarter way would be to modify it and run everything off DC to remove two conversion steps. That'll cost a bit more though.
Look on youtube. I forget the exact details now but one guy I watched a few weeks ago (USA) did away with the mains power brick and got the number of watts used way down.
I tried starlink out in Sydney at my house, and was underwhelmed with the speeds. Couldn’t get to 100/20, and it was quite unreliable. Even on top of the roof, many things cause obstructions like neighbours trees etc. you’d want a very clear, open place to mount it.
Yeah, Starlink isn't really meant for built-up areas. You can't get NBN where you are?
It isn't meant as a cabled-NBN replacement, it's really meant for places that can't get cabled internet. It's an alternative to SkyMuster or maybe fixed wireless, or as a portable solution for campervans or techy camping.
If you can get NBN via cables (fibre, HFC, FTTC), you'll have a much better experience with that.
Starlink do offer a 30-day refund if it doesn't perform satisfactorily.
I tried starlink out in Sydney at my house
and this
Yeah, Starlink isn't really meant for built-up areas.
It is my understanding the Starlink doesn't have ACMA approval for high density areas and having a direct satellite overhead due to the conflict with frequencies and impacting other telecommunications. Hence, the low speed in those areas.
If I had to pay this instead of being paid a couple/few dollars a month to use phone SIMs, I'd go without. ;-D
Thanks very much to those who have contacted me regarding the referral. Very kind of you.
Unfortunately, I am not finding any referral information with Starlink in Australia anymore.
Has it been discontinued or am I missing something.
I emailed Starlink, but past emails have taken days to get a reply on non urgent matters.
Might be something to confirm so mods can remove the referral option for Starlink.
Thanks and have a great day.
Personally the high monthly cost and large power drain is a deal killer for me. The solution is a good quality 4G modem (with external antenna if needed) in a lot of cases. Might be worth noting the next generation of SL hardware (especially the Mini) just filed with the FCC. Details here www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrfnyDnsTIA
The solution is a good quality 4G modem (with external antenna if needed) in a lot of cases.
Even if you can get 4G coverage. I did an install where you could only get 1 bar. SL was heaps faster in this case.
Plus, high monthly cost and low data for 4G in most cases.
Have you come across any good 4G modem with an outdoor antenna kit
Anyone else noticed you can't look at the sky at night anymore without it raining space junk ?
How long is this deal on for? TIA
Who knows. The $450 hardware was only until 1st of Jan 2023, but that was extended. Could run for a while.
Anyone know if you can convert this from the residential plan to the roam plan? Send it to a rural address of someone you know and then when it arrives change to the roam plan so can use it anywhere? I want one for travelling, so want to be on the roam plan to pause it as we need, and $200 is crazy cheap for the hardware. $599 for the hardware for any address if choosing the roam plan when ordering.
This will be useful when the cable link is broken for a few days, and you're running your servers at your dungeon or camper.
Does the Starlink referral programme not work anymore?
I have messaged loads of people about it already and no one even responds lol.
And I asked ‘nicely’ too.
So much for the 30 day free trial period - you get charged from day one with no indication of any refund for first month
I noticed that today
And I am still waiting for them to answer 1 question from 8 days ago -
What is their SMTP settings, so I can send emails from my email client instead of all the fvcking around I have to do with online clients like Protonmail
I left a phone message from nearly 2 weeks ago, un-replied. My app message from nearly a week ago is also un-replied.
Their customer service is atrocious, just like Tesla.
If you get charges, just do a bank chargeback.
Then they will stop the service, just like Helstra is doing now
If you are late paying a bill with Helstra, they will hobble your service.
Doesn't Sydney SkyLink answer live? Do they do all their contacts via messages? That's crap
I wonder if the ACCC knows about this. I am too sick & busy, it is up to you Boogerman
And I am still waiting for them to answer 1 question from 8 days ago -
What is their SMTP settings
Isn't it quicker to just google it? They don't provide an SMTP server for you to use.
If you want an SMTP server then you'll need to provide your own.
I have duckduckgo'ed it, but the few replies are from the north
They have to have SMTP settings, every ISP/RSP has their own
I had a barny with the last because they said it was up to the email client, the first 2 techs said; until I had a tech that bothered to listen to me
How do you send your emails Nom? How do I provide my own SMTP server? Is that the same as settings? Do u know what SMTP stand for? Do you know what it does? I have been playing with different ones since 2004. How do you send multiple emails addresses from the same client Nom?
I have duckduckgo'ed it, but the few replies
You should have just googled it, the first search result (under the second post) literally has the exact answer you were looking for.
are from the north
Starlink is an American company. If they don't provide an SMTP server for their own region, why would they provide one only for Australia?
They have to have SMTP settings, every ISP/RSP has their own
Lots do, but they don't have to, especially if they don't provide an ISP-hosted email address. That is why there are SMTP service solutions like this.
The general public have moved on from the old days of ISP-hosted email and standalone email clients that require SMTP/POP3/IMAP settings. It's much easier for people to just use a web-based email provider that doesn't tie them down to an ISP.
@eug: I google.com.au'ed it and it would be easier if you just gave me the answer
I know they are from the north - it was at the end of a very long day
I can't use ProtonMail & the like for every email I send as I have collected so many this & that since 2004, that is why I use Thunderbird; it keeps all my email addresses under one roof
19 years ago the general public were using POP3. Was gMail a thing back then? I know that is not POP3, it was an example
I google.com.au'ed it and it would be easier if you just gave me the answer
Show a man how to fish something something.
I can't use ProtonMail & the like for every email I send as I have collected so many this & that since 2004,
Where is your email hosted? They should have an SMTP server for you. If you're self-hosting you'll just have to pay for an SMTP service like I linked to earlier.
that is why I use Thunderbird; it keeps all my email addresses under one roof
I point all my domains to my Office 365 account and keep all my email addresses under one roof.
19 years ago the general public were using POP3. Was gMail a thing back then? I know that is not POP3, it was an example
They were just starting out then. Hotmail only changed from a 2MB quota mailbox to 250MB that year thanks to Gmail rocking the boat by giving out 1GB. They even supported POP3 and IMAP. That began the slow decline of ISP-hosted email and standalone email clients like Thunderbird, Eudora, and Outlook Express. Nowadays the general public doesn't bother with email clients that are susceptible to data loss from a crashed hard disk and ransomware, they just use web-based email that takes care of everything for them and syncs perfectly (including read status) with their phone.
19 years later the email scene has changed. Spam and impersonation is a big problem so email has been tightened up a lot. SMTP and IMAP now support encryption, and you have to care about things like DMARC and SPF if you want to ensure your emails don't get stuck in filters. Technology never stays still.
@eug: Show a man how to fish something something - I don't want fish, just an SMTP email for StarLink
Where is your email hosted? - Dodo, gMail & Protonmail
I point all my domains to my Office 365 account and keep all my email addresses under one roof - so u r young then, u have not been on the web since 2004
I use Thunderbird as I have kept all my email I have ever sent or received since 2004, have u? Oh wait, u were too young to reach the keyboard
Well off u go, go and tell Mozilla that they have a shit product. I know all about spam & the like, I used to find people with only their email address
Stuck in filters eh, I should tell my doctors reception that as they never seem to get emails from me & other people. They are the only ones that don't get my emails.. If it does not get thru, I get the email back - u mean I am meant to get it back? Or I can send the email with a return reciept - they think of everything
I use Thunderbird as I have kept all my email I have ever sent or received since 2004, have u? Oh wait, u were too young to reach the keyboard
I have all my emails since before 2004. I used to store them locally as well, then realised it was silly keeping track of so many accounts so I hosted my own email server on Exchange at home and pulled everything into one mailbox and synced beautifully with my phones and computers.
Eventually I decided that not harnessing the capabilities of distributed cloud infrastructure is silly so I migrated everything to Office 365. There's about 660,000 items there now.
Technology never stays still. If you don't keep up with it you'll just get left behind.
They have to have SMTP settings, every ISP/RSP has their own
Those days are long gone…
Since DMARC, you need to send your emails from a matching domain if you don't want to be marked as spam at the receiver's end.
How do you send your emails Nom?
I use smtp.office365.com because that's the server provided by my email provider, that I use with my personal domain.
You can't just use someone else's SMTP server without breaking DMARC - because their domain won't match the email sender's domain. And it'll break SPF too because the random SMTP server won't be whitelisted.
How do I provide my own SMTP server?
If you don't know this, then just use Google or Outlook.com - both provide SMTP with their accounts. If you want to use your own domain then move quickly - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/get-a-personalize… - you only have until November to set it up.
Is that the same as settings? Do u know what SMTP stand for? Do you know what it does? I have been playing with different ones since 2004. How do you send multiple emails addresses from the same client Nom?
Erm, I manage email systems as part of my day job.
@Nom: Those long gone days were when I started to use Thunderbird. Do u want to tell Mozilla they have a bad product? Do u have a better product that u made?
U use smtp.office365.com, who is your ISP/RSP? Is it the same or similar client? Did u read where I wrote about the techs that did not believe me.
DMARC, more acronyms without an explanation about what it means. I have been using the SMTP of the ISP that I have been with since 2004, and it has worked with Thunderbird. I thought I wrote that previously. Explain that then? Without it, my emails don't send from Thunderbird. Ask the 2 techs. My email provider told me to use the SMTP of my ISP/RSP - what now? Do u want to see the letter from them techs. Techs again? It is because I talk to techs. Break SPF too? All these nondescript acronyms are giving me the SHITS; or would u like me to break that down for u?
If I don't know this, here is this - well I asked, of course I don't know. And why till November, or is it a secret?
U manage email systems? 4 who? So u are a mailman
@the Unforgiven: Not quite sure what you're trying to say, but basically you need to use the SMTP server provided by the same place that is providing you the email account.
In my case this is office365.
In your case it's whoever you're getting your email from.
ISPs often don't provide SMTP servers any more, because people don't generally use ISP-provided email addresses any more… this isn't Starlink being difficult, it's just the state of the market.
@Nom: No it is not, the SMTP has to come from the ISP/RSP; in my case it is StarLink
When I was with Activ8Me, the 1st techs would not believe me either (as you don't believe me).
Both argued for half an hour telling me the same as what you are telling me, but the 1st got abusive, so I hung up on the prick
It took until the 3rd tech to listen to me. I had to work at it since he did not believe me either. He made me get in touch with my email client, Dodo, which I did. I had been talking to the techs there lately about something else, I talk to tech as I find them to be smarter than normal people, most times.
I asked them to email me back if they believe I was right, which I have been since 2004. How long have you been playing with SMTP's?
So the 3rd tech now believed me that I needed the SMTP from activ8me & not Dodo to send emails from Thunderbird.
All that needs to be done is for you to understand, if you can; or do you want me to show you the letter from the techs from Dodo before you believe?
State of the market, or you being ignorant of the fact that not everyone, is you?
Although my address is eligible, I have NBN optical fibre connected so won't be using SL.
But for those who cannot get a reliable landline connection, SL probably is the best on the market you can get. If I were on the same boat I would jump in no brainer.