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Massdrop x Sennheiser HD 6XX Open Back Headphone US$218.90 Delivered (~A$324 Delivered) @ Drop

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The legendary headphone for vocal timbre, lots of info and reviews in previous deal posts, still holds its own if you want to try mid-fi and aren't concerned with super tight imaging.

Don't get sucked into buying extra pads, they are not the stock (HD 650) pads, and not worth your money. Enjoy!

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  • Damn, I'm really tossing up between the Focal Clear OGs B stock for $799 vs these for $300. Hoping it'd be buy once cry once if I got the Clears.

    • +5

      Get Focals. These always go on sale and not worth over 300 imo

    • +2

      I had these a few years ago and absolutely hated them! Just got the Focal Clears today and they are WAY better. The 6XX to me was flat and boring and claustrophobic, the Clears are awesome, though to be honest I almost think I prefer my Hifiman Edition XS just… Clears for me aren't as comfortable as the Hifiman's with a hotspot on my head.

      • +1

        Boring is the correct word, good for accoustic guitar and laid back rock I guess.

        The clamping force on the hd650 is an issue too, can't wear them for hours like the Beyerdynamics. Check out the DT880 Editions from umart.

        • +1

          Bend out the metal sections of the headband and the clamp force goes away. 30 second fix.


          I won't touch focal, they have the worst rep for warranty repair and parts replacement costs. Pads for the clears and Utopias are insane.

          You can get every single part of an HD600 from Sennheiser, at a reasonable price if anything every breaks. Not that anything on my five year old pair has ever failed.

          • +1

            @rumblytangara: Yeah I had focal 2 ways in the car 20y ago, did sound a bit metallic. Everyone had those HD212 then as well :p

      • Interested to learn what amp you're using with all of these.

        • +2

          Definitely sounds like they were not amped properly.

          The HD6x0 lineup is a cheap headphone that requires better amping than most TOTL headphones. I would say the bare minimum for them would be an Asgard 3 level amp and they still have much room for improvement beyond that.

    • +3

      I have a Topping A90 + D90 setup. I also have the HD 650 and had a pair of Focal Clear OG. I sold the Clear because they sounded way too similar to my HD 650 while not being as comfortable.

      • +1

        Definitely agree with you on the comfort, not loving the Clear's on top of my head. I just didn't like the sound of the 6XX at all, Got the HE4XX not long after and massively preferred them

      • +1

        Interesting - might give the 650s a try vs the clears. Have you found that the A90 + D90 to be much better than cheaper DAC + amp options?

        • I went from a Schiit stack (Magni 2 + Modi 2) to the Toppings. I would say there wasn't too much diff soundwise with the HD 650s on both setups but moreso upgraded for my IEMs (much lower noise floor on the A90/D90)

    • +1

      Go demo the Focal Clear and the HD 650 at Addicted to Audio if you're anywhere near Subiaco, but effectively the Clear would be the 650 with bass extension & slam, as well as elite imaging, at the expense of some timbre.

      It's a very good price for the Clear, but it's also a headphone you've got to appreciate the technical aspects of in order to deal with the caveats. Comparatively, the 6XX is an affordable staple, and outside of some imaging quirks is no technical slouch. I'm a believer in having a collection of headphones (not to the level you see on YouTube, of course), and the 6XX is a cornerstone to that: open back, relaxed neutral, reference timbre.

    • I've got the 6XX and a pair of Focal Elegia.
      They serve different purposes for me, so both get use. But, I think the 6XX are more flexible.
      The 6XX are way more comfortable for long sessions and general use imo. I find the Focal a little on the heavy side.
      I also use the 6XX for general PC use, gaming, discord calls, etc. as i find them much less fatiguing than the other headphones I own.

      As others have suggested, if you can get to a store like addicted to audio, I'd do that.
      Sound signature is good and all, but they also need to be comfortable for you.

      • I know these look similar in style to the HD 58Xs, but is the comfort and fit the same too? Similarly love my HD 58Xs but might do a little upgrade to something like this in the future.

        • -2

          They headband is essentially the same.

          I wouldn't bother with the upgrade, the difference is pretty minor, possibly unless you're running a shit-hit chain and are listening for differences.

        • Should be similar, but it's a massive sonic upgrade, doubly so if your amp isn't rubbish.

          The only thing the 58X brings is great timbre and decent soundstage width.

          • @jasswolf: What are you running for an amp that you can hear a massive difference?

            I'm running an Eddie Current, so that isn't a limiting factor.

            Massive sonic upgrade, not really. Ones a bit better, but certainly not massive.

            I'd say moving to an 800 is a big difference in both time and frequency response. But not 5->6.

            • +1

              @rumblytangara: Do you have more specific information on what tube amp you're using? What tubes? It's not as simple as one power output measurement, hence why people will often get you to pad that out far higher than a headphone should need.

              Obviously the 600 series is an evolution upon the original 580, but the detail and separation of the 600/650 vs the 58X - which isn't really like the original 580 at all - is well understood. The 600 series was built around timbre, resolution, and balanced tonality. The rest of the 500 series has continued down the line of soundstage and imaging at a low price.

              The 58X is trying to have some principles of the 580 while sounding like other 500 series headphones and offering their level of sensitivity and impedance, and it comes across as v-shaped, rolled off, bassy and wide sounding while having great - not legendary - timbre.

              I think there's better headphones for gaming/3D immersion in that price range, and I think for everyone else they're going to enjoy the heck out of the 6XX for the extra $20 USD. If the 6XX is too expensive, you now have option of something like the HIFIMAN HE400SE non-Stealth for $130 imported.

              • -1

                @jasswolf: Mate, what gear are you running? You keep asking this of other people, but otherwise you're just regurgitating standard r/headphones lines. Much of which is imaginary. e.g. these headphones have bugger all soundstage, and talking about this in context of computer games is meaningless as there is so much dependency on sound engine.

                I'm running a pre-production EC amp, of which less than ten exist in the world. Before this I've run loads- cheap tube amps and Schiit. A unique solid state ECP (well, one of two in existence). I have plenty of experience with headphone amps. Do you?

                • @rumblytangara: I'm running an Asgard 3, which acts as class A when required. One of the spikes in impedance on the 6XX occurs as it slides up past 10kHz, going from 300 ohms to peaking at around 380 at 20kHz. Its impedance peak is at about 450-500 ohms, centred around 100Hz.

                  This is why on a poorly controlled amplifier people complain of the 6XX/650 sounding muffled and dead: the mid-bass comes across slow and bloated, while the upper treble sounds more heavily rolled off. A tube amp can often help with voltage requirements, but it has to be operating reasonably well and with harmonics that compliment the headphone.

                  I'm running a pre-production EC amp, of which less than ten exist in the world. Before this I've run loads- cheap tube amps and Schiit. A unique solid state ECP (well, one of two in existence). I have plenty of experience with headphone amps. Do you?

                  No I don't have that level of experience with tube amps, but if you're running a high level EC amp then that should be giving the best of what a tube amp can do, subject to your DAC's implementation for upper treble and aliasing. I'm just astonished you're hearing no difference beyond some tonality nudges. There's a lot of professionals in the audio, reviewer, and engineering space that stand starkly apart from you on that.

                  • +2

                    @jasswolf: One's a bit better than the other, like I said, the big difference is moving to something like the 800. It's really not worth making a huge deal out of. This whole thing came out of someone asking if it's worth buying a 6xx when he's already got a 59x- he would be better served getting something totally different for the experience, like planars. Not something a 'little bit technically better.'

                    But all this stuff about imaging or soundstage, no serious reviewer source pushes that for either the 5 or the 6 and it matches what I have heard. Both are very closed, the only place this pops up is with Redditors who go on about gaming.

                    • @rumblytangara: I'm not suggesting it's revelatory, I mean against the 598, 599, and 560S sold today the 600 and 650 are narrow and narrower, but a natural soundstage and certainly not at closed back levels or an imitation like some do. Imaging is 3-blob mostly on them too, but good amps for the job do fix this enough to take it from annoying to functional.

                      The key thing that people agree on is that the 600 series is a clear step up, and its timbre is super hard to beat, while the resolution for the price range is only bested by planars. It's an upgrade on a 599, no doubt.

                      A proper planar upgrade on its experience would be the Edition XS at $699+ ($550 on import during sales), or going for a Taobao import like the Nan-7 at $1100. The Sundara has some great aspects to it, but the imaging is difficult when the mix is busy, and the treble and fit get too difficult for long sessions for most people.

                      The other best value planar under $1000 IMO is the Audeze Maxwell, but it's also a closed back. The HD 800S is its own beast, and I think it's getting trumped by planar innovation and maybe even ribbon tech now. For all of its technical ability the treble peaks are difficult. I think we're also on the verge of seeing some earspeaker/headphone hybrids that will offer speaker imaging, but detail levels may take a hit.

    • im sure focal are quality but my hd600 and hd25ii are nearly a decade old and still sound great. senny made some of these headphones to last forever.

    • Contrasting with others here I found the 6XX very uncomfortable (such a firm clamp) and didn't love them so got rid of them.

    • You'll cry twice if someone sits on these.

      • Nah, Sennheiser makes every single available for replacement, at quite reasonable pricing. One of the reasons I went with them for most my headphones.

        • Really? Someone sat on my Seinheisser open back headphones. I, and the headphones, were crushed. Actually now that I think about it it was AudioTechnica.

          • @AustriaBargain: Yeah, you can get replacement everything - headband, padding, earcups, even replacement diaphragms. You can build totally new phones by sourcing the spare parts, it you for some strange reason wanted to.

    • Just get the Focal Clear OGs. Much better build and the sound is really another level.

  • +2

    Is inflation hitting hard? These used to go for $185

    • +1

      Pretty sure these were 200usd in 2017 when I bought them

    • +1

      Might you be thinking of the also popular Massdrop x Senneheiser 58X?

    • +3

      There's been deals in recent years as low as $179, but shipping has crept up from $15-$20, and GST is now added after both those charges at check out. The free shipping promo is basically a $22 USD discount on these to go with the semi-decent sale.

      Best price you can hope for next is probably October/November for around $199 USD delivered (i.e. around $300 AUD). Without GST being applied, te all-time low was around $240 before credits.

  • variations

    • Blessing 3 is out now.

      • it's not as good as the variations, not even close really.

        • have you tried Blessing 2 or S8 ?

          • @whyisave: yes, both. neither compare to the variations. they hit the tuning on variations almost perfectly.

            • @theadeptus1: wow…i would have thought that S8 is dearer, so it 'has' to be better.
              I have the Blessing 2 and going to skip Variations, to go for S8.

              • @whyisave: not at all. audiophile industry is filled with cheap marketing to make products seem better than they really are. read up on some science and you'll soon realize price means next to nothing in the audio space.

                • @theadeptus1: they're all from the same brand,
                  and so it seemed logical to price their products in that way.
                  all of the IEMs seemed like that,
                  and to hear that Variations > S8 sounded interesting to me,
                  even though I had not road-tested them.

                  the thing is, i don't like bass, so i don't like what many others do.
                  for me, i don't fall for marketing and even the graphs themselves won't grab me,
                  eg. AudioScienceReview questioned the 'science' of the Cayin RU6
                  through graphing the signal analysis but to my ears and many others,…the feelings are different :-)

                  • +1

                    @whyisave: i have strong opinions on audio objectivity but don't wish to rant in a comment section…but if you're really interested, there's a guy called sharur (just search "sharur audio variations" on youtube) who explains the topic very well (and much more).

                    however, to each their own. i'd suggest not letting anyone on the internet tell you something is better than what you already have. if you are happy with what you got, let that be that. don't ever believe in the hype, especially for audio. if you get the s8 and have your "holy eureka!" moment then the job is done.

  • +10

    One of my favourite ever purchases, mine are coming up to 6 years old.

    Audiophiles could recommend something ~10% better for three times the price, I'm sure, but for the average Joe the 6xx is top notch.

    • -6

      Or just get a Qudelix 5K DAC/DSP/amp for 200% better quality, no joke. Without EQ these sound like the cups are stuffed full of cotton balls

      • Without proper amping you mean..

        • Unfortunately amping doesn’t fix their lake of low end extension or muddy midrange. EQ certainly does

          • @antik: Well a good amp and DAC certainly helps them to sound the best as they are intended, or they aren't the best choice. Check out the Darko video I posted, they don't sound very good from a phone.

  • The pads on my 599's are finally needing replacement. Tossing up between getting replacement pads or just going for these

    • +1

      I swapped from these to 599 and can only say they're very different so don't expect to enjoy these more if you do like the 599! (I do)

  • How do these compare to the HD600? I had a pair of HD600 and broke them recently, replaced them with a Beyer DT770 which I like a lot less.

    • I think there is some debate about where they are essentially the same, but I think they are essentially the same.

      • HD6XX is same as HD650. So vs HD600 slight differences.
        Just look at HD600 vs HD650 videos/articles for info.

        • My bad, I forgot which one it was based on.

        • They do use a cheaper cable which is very prone to failure it seems in the HD6XX. It looked cheap when I got it and it did not at all surprise me when one side failed.. quite a lot of reports of the same when I looked..

          • +1

            @mrbargainz: Yeh, the cable is not great.
            But you can find so many replacement cable options on places like Aliexpress, which is what I'd recommend most people do and did myself.
            I've had to to the same with more expensive headphones as well, so it isn't unique to these.

            • @Sythe: Out of my headphones, Sennheiser has been one of the few that have had quite a few failed cables, so that's a helpful perspective. I've gone back to using my Shure headphones at the moment and I've had them for way more than twice as long and they're still going strong.

              I don't think I checked AliExpress, so I might give that a look. I did look on Amazon when they broke, but the reviews for the ones at the time weren't great. I might have another look on there too.

              There was a lot of conflicting information about whether the replacement cable should be to suit the HD650 which they're based off, or the HD600. I would've thought the 650, but I was told by a number of shops/people the cable needs to be the 600 instead, so in the end I wasn't sure what to order from Sennheiser.

    • +1

      The 650 was designed to correct for vocal timbre and relax the treble a bit compared to the 600, and it was pretty well regarded for doing so (also exceptional at piano timbre compared to a lot of headphones). The soundstage and imaging are slightly weaker than the 600 as a result.

      The 6XX is basically the 650 in a 3D printed enclosure. The driver tolerance might be a tiny bit wider, but you're not going to hear the difference. The difference between the 600 and the 650 is audible, but it's two subtle flavours. For relaxed listening, the 650 is difficult to beat.

      • +1

        What 3D printed enclosure?

        Externally they are both injection molded. I've also pulled apart the 6XX for modding and noticed no printed parts.

        3D printing for a mass produced item is expensive because it's so much slower than injection molding (I 3D print).

        Also- there is practically no soundstage for the 5 or the 6. Barely any for the 800 compared to speakers (which is supposed to be soundstage king.) Based on extensive personal testing.

        Want soundstage? Buy speakers.

        • My bad, I've clearly muddled the plastic enclosure being of far lower quality as being through 3D printing, but they are appreciably less sturdy than the original without being of structural concern.

          What's your upper frequency hearing like? They're not called air frequencies for nothing. Of course everything has its limits, and you're not going to get speaker presentation on head without an ear speaker arrangement (eg. RAAL SR-1b) or highly customised HRTF processing, but there are appreciable differences between headphone designs, and even speaker designs.

  • Got mine around 2 years ago and the pads are wearing out. Anyone have recommendation on replacements? Hopefully they're not too hard to replace.

    • +3

      havent tried it myself but came across this vid recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CYxIGzoNaU

      Link to shop: https://shop.zmfheadphones.com/collections/pads/products/zmf…

      • +1

        Yeah from what I understand it's these or the stock valour from Sennheiser.

      • Can vouch for the ZMF pads. DMS's video sums up the difference vs stock pads pretty well.
        Got the suede ones personally after my stock ones completely wearing out and I've liked it so far. Well built, the suede feels great and I like that they're thicker so your ears don't touch the drivers.
        A bit off EQ and they're good to go

      • Just an update. Picked up the Perforated leather ones from ZMF and just put them on. Feels like I have new headphones!

    • Dekoni pads are the only pads. Much better than factory pads. Perforated leather are great

  • +1

    Impulse bought one of these recently to compare it to my ATH AD900x. It's more well rounded (more bass and fuller mids) but has less soundstage. Now I just randomly reach for either cans since I still do like the airy sound of the AT cans.

  • Fyi, this item no longer in a big solid box like used to be. It came with flimsy cheap packaging same like hd58xx..
    Made in ireland (if im not mistaken used to be made in romania)
    Quality of the product probably would be the same.

    • The 650 was originally made in Ireland before things shifted to Romania, there was a whole thing about manufacturing issues when production first swapped.

      That perpetuated a myth about the Romanian models being inferior until someone showed with measurement data that the problems only existed in the first 6 months as they went through inevitable teething issues.

    • That's a pity with the increased pricing, gst. The big solid box is nice and the 58x packaging is real cheap!

  • +1

    This used to me Sennheiser flagship headphones long long time ago and still selling like hot cake. I think these are a great headphones. Sound quality also depends on your DAC Amp, not just the phones.

  • -1

    Been contemplating about getting this for some time, i think I will finally pull the trigger.

    First decent headphones so need to get a DAC/AMP too, is the Topping dx3 pro a good choice?

    Also saw a few recommendations for the Little Dot Mk2, but for this I will also need to get a separate DAC?

    • See below

  • These really sound amazing after EQ. I use a Qudelix 5K DAC/Amp/DSP for all of my EQing through iPhone - If you don’t know of the 5K, look it up, it’s an absolute game changer

    • Shouldn't need to EQ anything with the right gear.

      • Agreed, if you need to EQ something as utterly bog standard as Sennheiser 598/600/650, you have bought the wrong headphones.

        Hang on, you were trying to run 300Ohm impedance headphones from an iPhone, and wonder why the sounded bad?!

        • I use a Topping E30/L30 stack for my headphones, albeit Qudelix 5K with some very basic EQ transforms the 6XX

        • Lack of power wouldn't really change the sound signature but obviously recommend to Power them properly. Depends what type of sound people like too.

          Adding an amp usually gives more authority, volume range, separation and detail - the last two are kind of assuming you have a good DAC too.

          I don't EQ my headphones but did the toilet paper mod on the 880s (1 plus) to take 3db of trebel off the peak - easy and worthwhile.

          Actually I find EQ improves the sound of the xm5 Bluetooth headphones based on a few recommend settings and to my taste.

        • To be honest, I'm using my hd6xx's on a $12 dongle on my phone with wavelett app and it sounds really good. So horses for courses i guess?

          I've used them on lots of other systems too, but i appreciate the portability of the phone and the $12 dongle from alibaba.

          • +1

            @Sxio: I've done the same. I can enjoy them like that, and also through a stupidly expensive and out of production amp.

            What I'm not going to do is preach that there is some secret sauce that absolutely must be added in order to enjoy the gear, or throw in Reddit buzzwords.

            • @rumblytangara: I cringe when i hear the word 'mid-fi'. Do i have to spend $800+ on phones to be able to listen to hi-fi???

              The snobbery is insane. Especially when it takes little skill and only purchasing to accrue gear.

              • +1

                @Sxio: Totally agree, no such thing as mid-fi.

                There's so much old man snobbery in audio and the forums especially that it's better not to worry about websites like ASR etc, otherwise you'd never be happy chasing utopia.

                It's still good to do some research to best protect your purchase but no point getting overly obsessive and critical about it all - should be about the music and enjoyment instead of tech, critical opinions and specs on paper. You can get fantasic headphones for $300 these days.

                I can't see the value of paying 5-10x as much for a 5-10% improvement. It's all about testing out what you think is good and works well together.
                i'm more than happy with my setup living room setup: Rpi4 running Volumio > Adi2FS DAC > Yamaha HS80M monitors + HS8S sub. Sure the kef ls50 wireless ii may be a bit nicer but hard to justify.

                • @G-rig: It's not just old man snobbery. The exact opposite has happened with the popularity of bullshit cult of personality sites like asr, which is essentially young people jealous of old man cash wanting to make themselves feel clever by getting 'bargain' gear that is somehow at the same time 'better' than expensive stuff.

                  All whilst quoting measurement parameters that don't matter in real life, and by wanking over some misunderstood idea of 'science'. And then there is the subniche that slavishly copies online EQ parameters as the solution to all ills. As if anyone who has any experience at all with audio hasn't already tried hardware or software EQ…. EQ is really simple, takes minutes to test. Twiddling physical knobs has been around since the 70s, and now we have software sliders. There is no magic bullet that transforms a pair of substandard headphones into $1000- for starters, it only addresses frequency, it cannot address transients (which in my experience is what separates meh from potential wow).

                  'mid fi' = spends more time reading about audio on the internet than experiencing gear.

                  I tried a load of stuff myself. Measured some simple stuff, decided what I liked (midpriced headphones, expensive amp, cheap DAC) and sold the rest. I also built my own 2 channel setup, which is frankly a lot more enjoyable than headphones.

                  Ah, this all reminds me of why I stopped paying attention to online audio in the first place :)

                  • @rumblytangara: Agree. Everyone is into chi-fi there, specs on paper and graphs isn't everything.. a good example is the gustard x16, awesome piece of kit apparently but the LCD screens burn out and not any good. Need reliability of the big brands.

                • @G-rig: I'm similar. I went through a lot of DACs on my PC but always stuck to a pretty standard stereo on the TV.

                  Then one day I realised I enjoy the stereo so much. And it's really nothing special. Just a samsung bar unit with surround speakers and sub, but it shakes the room in movies, sounds okay with music and best of all, it's wireless. Ease of setup and use counts for a lot.

                  So now I have a topping e30II Dac on my PC which I love, decent speakers and sub, and my HD6xx's of course which honestly, I enjoy on almost everything except for straight into my work laptop which sounds awful, but that's what my $12 dongle is for, which also sounds really great on my phone also.

                  All up, my setup only cost hundreds, barely 2 thousand and it's a computer upstairs, an atmos sound bar set up downstairs and my phones. I thank god I wised up when I did. I could've paid SO much more for e-peen points, but I know I wouldn't enjoy the music anymore.

                  • @Sxio: Yeah we got the same dongle I think ;).
                    Good to experiment with gear and agree don't need to spend a fortune.

                    I could have bought state of the art stuff by now but blowing it on rubbish.

      • Yeah nah if you think these sound good prior to EQ, you’re missing out on a lot. EQ transforms these headphones into something special. HD6XX with EQ sound a lot more dynamic and detailed than HD800. See here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/maste…

        • I've tried EQ on a load of Senn headphones, including these. And run plenty of my own frequency measurements. Unlesss you're fundamentally looking for something else, the 650s don't need it. If you absolutely need EQ, you do you.

          I don't reply on random third party measurements be be the end all of truth. Do you?

          • @rumblytangara: EQ shouldn't be discouraged though.
            Its free and can enhance the user experience, so it should be the first thing people do if there is something about headphone they don't like.
            Much better advice than chasing the dragon for the perfect non-EQ'd headphones.

            • @Sythe: I have no problem with EQ. I use EQ, currently to correct some cheapie NC BT headhones.

              I do have a problem with the absolute insistence that EQ is necessary to transform headphones from garbage to magical.

              • @rumblytangara: My original comment was "These really sound amazing after EQ", and I stick by my comment 110%. I thought my 6XX's sounded good prior to getting into this whole EQ game, though I knew they could definitely do with some low end. After adding EQ to them, they've been totally transformed. Giving them a well needed boost in the low end, taming the midrange, and cleaning up the top end puts these cans better sounding than any other sub $1000 headphones I've used. Sure EQ isn't needed, the same as how a desktop DAC isn't needed (Apple 3.5mm adapter will more than suffice), though as per my previous comment, these can be transformed into something quite special with some very basic steps. When I switch between EQ'd and factory on the fly, factory sounds so muddy in comparison, and without any low end authority - It literally sounds like you've got cotton balls stuffed in the cups. But sure, if you haven't heard them EQ'd properly, I'm sure they still present themselves as great sounding

                • @antik: Yes there are no rules, or anyone stopping people from using EQ if they want.

                  I'm just saying if you plugged them into a good DAC/headphone amp combo you'd get even more out of them and they come to life. Not bad having something for home PC setup, but obviously phone is a handy source when at work etc. Just isn't the best but alright still. Would still look at a cheap USB C DAC dongle sometime.

                  For portable and noisy environments I just use NC bt headphones, or a lot of the detail is lost and you'd have to have open backs up too loud and it's pointless.

                  • @G-rig: Most DAC’s that are in adapters that are included with phones, such as the Apple lightning to 3.5mm, measure extremely well, and are better than a lot of external dongles - see here: https://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/lightning-adapter-audio-qu…

                    The only time you would need to upgrade is if you require more volume, as better SNR wouldn’t be audible. I’ve tested Apple Lightning to 3.5mm versus Topping E30/L30 versus Topping G5 and the difference in audio quality was little to none, across various cans.

                    Then on the other hand there’s EQ, where you are able to very easily adjust the frequency response of any given headphone, to either match a house curve, or adjusted to your own personal preference depending on your listening taste.

                    Anyway, why not have everything spoken about plus more? Dual ESS DAC’s, balanced and unbalanced outputs, Hi-Res Bluetooth, software based parametric EQ + more all for less than $200…

                    This little thing has made me sell off many different amps and DAC’s, some worth 5x the price

                • @antik: Can i ask, what eq settings are you using? I have an app called wavelett which is very impressive, and on top of its native auto-eq'ing of my phones, i just pad the mid range manually. The equalizer looks like the top of a mushroom. It just sounds nice to me that way.

                  • @Sxio: I take my own measurements with MiniDSP EARS and Room EQ Wizard, then apply iOS software-based EQ via my Qudelix 5K DAC/amp/DSP.

                    Qudelix have preset EQ files for over 4000 different headphones which are about 90% spot on. You can read more about the EQ presets here: https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq

                    • @antik: Meh. Ok. I'm gonna keep living easy with my one app.

                      • @Sxio: You don’t need to take your own measurements and do custom EQ as most headphones measure quite similar against the same model. If you’re in need of a portable DAC/amp check out the Qudelix 5K, less than $200 and it has iOS/Android software based EQ and can do Hi-Res Bluetooth streaming (if that’s your thing). As for EQ database, open up the Qudelix app, click on DSP-DSP presets, search for your headphone model then apply AutoEQ. Super simple and I’ve found most of the presets very close to if you were to measure yourself

  • +2

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  • -2

    If these were single a cable connection, they would be perfect. Can't convert these to Bluetooth using normal Bluetooth receiver 3.5mm adapters unfortunately. Amazing headphones though. Yes Bluetooth audio quality decreases the quality of the headphones output but its nice to just have that option to swap between when you want it.

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