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Savings Maximiser 5.25% p.a. Interest on Balance up to $100,000 (Monthly Deposit, Balance & Spend Requirements) @ ING

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Breaking news….ING boosts savings account rate to market-leading 5.25% p.a. In usual fashion, ING has responded following Tuesday’s RBA decision, rewarding savers with the full 0.25% cash rate increase, taking its Savings Maximiser account rate to 5.25% p.a. New and existing ING customers are eligible for the new rate of 5.25% p.a. for balances up to $100,000 from 9 May 2023 - in only four days time.

"5.25% p.a. highest variable rate (made up of the standard variable rate and 4.70% p.a. additional variable rate) for customers who also have an Orange Everyday Bank account and do these things each month.

  1. Deposit at least $1,000 from an external source to any personal ING account in their name (excluding Living Super and Orange One)
  2. Make 5 or more settled (not pending) eligible ING card purchases
  3. Grow their nominated Savings Maximiser balance (excluding interest earned for the current month).

When the criteria is met in a calendar month, the benefits and additional variable rate will apply in the next calendar month. Available on one account for balances up to $100,000.

The standard variable rate is 0.55% p.a".

Also reported at https://www.savings.com.au/news/ing-may-increase-2023 and https://mozo.com.au/savings-accounts/articles/ing-ups-its-sa….

Now the pressure is on Bank of Queensland/Virgin Money, JudoBank and UBank (NAB) to respond……

Savings.com.au and Open Comparison Leaderboard provide information on other rates currently available in the market - https://www.savings.com.au/news/rba-savers-may-2023 and https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/145iM6uuFS9m-Rul65--e…

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Until 30/6/2024, referrer and referee will each receive $75/$100/$125 for opening new Orange Everyday & Saving Maximiser Accounts.

Referrer: Do not participate in the referral system if you do not have a current $75/$100/$125 referral code.

Referee: To qualify, you are required to deposit a minimum $1,000 and make at least 5 (settled) card transactions within any calendar month.

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    • It can be automated

    • either you let someone use your card or miss the bonus, that's the reason I'll never open account with ING, too many hoops for that amount of money.

  • +1

    Might actually start jumping through the hoops now.

    • We train our monkeys well here. Come join the fun!

      • Money doesn't grow on trees, nor does common sense money mgt,

        • It might not grow on trees, but we can print loads more of it whenever we want to. At least we can rely on the government to follow common sense money mgt principles, even if the plebs don’t understand the finer points

          • +1

            @tharlow:

            At least we can rely on the government to follow common sense money mgt principles,

            That was tongue in cheek presumably. Common sense has little place in modern economics because it relies on hindsight and is often not necessarily what a nation needs. Even (the once lauded) Howard and Costello were economic failures. They not only put $100B of taxpayers money into multinational petro company pockets (classic conservatism) they also left incoming govts with significant structural deficits, sold off national assets (the gold fiasco was a particular highlight) and failed to invest in infrastructure at a time of growing population. They did manage to meet the "common sense" principles of budget surpluses tho.

  • +1

    Will AMP follow? They just started 4.8% from 1st May

    • It would be nice to see but the May increase was from March, and I think they had missed 1 or 2 rate rises before March.

  • +1

    Does anyone know if ING has a referral code for new users?

    • +1

      They used to have it, but it's no longer in ozbargain system, so I assume it's gone?

    • +2

      I wouldn't worry if I were you. ING weasel'd their way out of giving me and my referee the prizes. Complaints and a threat of the ombudsman pursuaded them to comply with their promotion.

  • +4

    All eyes on BoQ and UBank.

    • +2

      and Virgin.

      • True, Virgin too.

        BoQ released this Orwellian-esk press release, titled "BOQ responds to May RBA decision and lifts savings rates".

        But the page only specifies that it's increasing the variable home loan interest rates by 0.25%.

        For the savings rate, no specific rate increase is mentioned.

        Instead, it says:

        To help customers build up their savings, we have continued to reward them with competitive rates.

        Which sounds like a euphemism for "We're not increasing our savings rates this time".

        • +1

          Are you kidding, so that means they are planning to not increase. I hope AMP increases so we can leave virgin to teach them a lesson.

          • +2

            @FujiFruit: AMP updates it's rates less frequently than the others.
            BoQ is pretty infrequent.

            Virgin I think is not as bad as those two, but not as good as UBank.

            ING is still the best in terms of how quickly it responds to rate increases.
            From what everyone said, if ING could use the money, they could do well if they increased that $100,000 limit

            • @SomeGuyOnOzB: BOQ actually last updated their rates ahead of the the last rise

              but now its fallen back in line if it isn't updating this time

      • All the Vestal ones have been collected already…..

  • +2

    Was expecting every bank to skip this rise on the HISA side. Good to see ING taking the lead hope Ubank keeps up.

    • +3

      Incentive Saver and Maxi accounts at St George/BOM/Bank SA are going up to 4.75% on 12 May.

  • Keep going up… it's helping reduce the greedy real estate agent's rent increase.

    Now if only they'd drop the hoops and limits I'd switch from Ubank in an instant.

    I saw an article the other day… government planning to interfere with property AGAIN by giving the RBA the boot. (Every time government interferes with property in some way they succeed gloriously in INCREASING its price.) So expect property to double again in the next 5 years if they do.

  • Anyone know what happen if you withdraw the amount excess the $100k so for example if the account balance is $102k and withdraw $2k do you loss the bonus interest?

    • Yes, since you are not meeting requirement #3

    • You can withdraw but must return it and increase it before the end of the month.

  • My offset is 2% for another year and I am in the second highest tax bracket, it's finally now worth emptying my offset to my SM account!

    • Lol - I feel sorry for you if you think these are complicated hurdles.

      • -3

        Once you reached the 100k threshold , 0.55% interest > 100k is a deal breaker.
        I have better things to do with my life

        • So just put 100k in there then. The rest into UBank or something.

  • +1

    100k is a pittance

  • +1

    High offer, just a shame there are so many conditions now from ING.

    • Completely agree! They’re making so much money from everyone but make it difficult with the hurdles. You stuff up one and there goes your interest for the month. Meanwhile they make real $$ from your money no matter what.

      • +1

        At what point in life did you start expecting that FIs would share their profits with you Gman? If you're yearning for the return of times when banks focused on community enablement and service you wouldn't be on your pat, but those days are long gone and will never return.

        Any adult serious about managing their money has no reason to "stuff up" with the ING criteria. Even if you need to use your money for one month or do manage to fu what are quite simple rules you're still ahead of the pack at current available rates.

        The good news is that if ING's reqts are too hard for you to manage there are options elsewhere. ING is leading or near the lead in the market which puts pressure on other institutions to step up. Why any consumer would think that's a negative is beyond my low level of economic comprehension.

        • -1

          This is complete crap mate. All they are there for is to increase the chances of the consumer stuffing up and making an error so they don’t have to pay you out. There should be a compete ban on this sort of stuff. “Any adult” what a load of **** Life happens you miss things which is exactly what they prey upon. There shouldn’t be “bonus this” it should be the flat rate with no hurdles from the get go.

          • +2

            @TheGman101: Whatever. As I said, there are alternatives for people too effing lazy to manage their money and others whose circumstances don't suit the model. For most people it takes no significant effort at all to get the bonus, let alone any brainpower. If you can't work out a system which works for your specific circumstances then read some comments here or on similar "deals", or ask questions. ING provides relatively simple rules and the data req'd you need to monitor your progress (if that's reqd, often/usually it isn't). Even if you miss a couple of months because you're too lazy to manage your money or have unexpected bills the rates are highly competitive.

            I'd like to see mandated minimum base rates but banning innovation and competition is economic nonsense. No hurdles? Seriously "mate" that bs doesn't stand up to even basic scrutiny. You're on a deals website which the vast majority of the population either don't know about or don't use for many reasons. Should we ban all discounts and just have everyday low prices for all comrade? The irony/hypocrisy is palpable.

            The first hurdle many people have is being able to save enough to earn a few shekels in interest every month. Some people still pay banks to store (not manage) their meagre funds and even pay to use it. Others can't get (cheap) loans because their circumstances don't fit the significant hoops they have to jump through. Your angst would be better placed railing against bank fees, or ludicrous credit card interest rates.

            You have super? If so, bank profits are helping to build your nest egg. This product isn't for you it seems, so time to move along.

            • @Igaf: You’re talking like you worked in the industry and created these hurdles to justify them. Strangest comment I’ve seen for a very long time on here.

              • @TheGman101: What's strange about my comment? That it's based on knowledge and direct experience or that it shows your argument has sfa foundation and even less logic? That you seem to be advocating for a one size fits all interest rate while taking advantage of special Ozbargain deals is hypocrisy writ large. I don't and have never worked in banking or financial industry. Even if I did how exactly would that negate my "strange" comments?

  • Can you not just make 5 Beem it transfers?

    • Beemit used to work for this but no longer due to the way those payments are processed. Paypal transfers from one account to another do work.

    • +1

      No they plugged that loophole a while back

  • +5

    Guess the RBA must be right given the number of “what happens after $100k” posts. OzB community is flush with savings. More hikes!

    • +1

      Yes, raising rates is pointless — they’d have to go much, much higher to influence the median person’s purchasing decisions

      • +1

        0.25% at a time is a bit too slow given how much money people have and are able to spend. Faster/ bigger hikes could do the trick sooner.

        • And risk putting the economy into reverse, with fairly obvious consequences. Unfortunately Lowe's 2020? prognostications on interest rates lulled people into complacency and sent a message of false security, and we're now paying the price. International events over which the RBA had no control haven't helped wrt inflation.

          • +1

            @Igaf: Who's paying the price? Look at how much money people got and are spending.. no need to go too far to find it.

            People had no issues when it came to over-borrowing, splurging, and cheering with house prices going up (for 3 years and even now).. and suddenly the complaints start when rates go up? That's not fair. Market is still insanely up.. anyone in serious stress can sell the property and have peace with it. No one is stopping them.

            • @virhlpool: I don't get your point. The RBA and most economists know the risks of sudden/large rate rises. Yes they hurt those with big loans but sending a nation onto recession hurts the less well off far more, which was my pretty obvious point.

          • @Igaf: It doesn't matter if it causes a recession - that's far less bad than recession, and every central bank knows it, and has admitted it. RBA just fails to act.

            • @Starcraftmazter:

              It doesn't matter if it causes a recession - that's far less bad than recession

              Que? I think I get your drift though - you think a recession is preferable to 7% inflation?
              Spoken like someone who won't be significantly affected by a moderate recession. I'm in that category but like most responsible and socially aware people I acknowledge that any recession will hit plenty of less well off people pretty hard, not to mention govt debt spiralling further. Depends on the depth and length of the recession but small business, the un- and under-employed (esp older women), part-time workers, renters, single income families with debt etc etc will all cop it.

              It's not an either/or situation. You can bring down inflation without causing economic stagnation and panic, which is what the RBA is attempting to do after sitting idly by during the pandemic (with some, but not complete justification).

              • -1

                @Igaf: I dont think it, it's an economic fact agreed upon by all economists. This is why you see central bankers all over the world sweating, despararely hoping their soft action hasn't lead to sticky inflation.

                Because if they cannot quickly get inflation under control, you won't be facing a mere recession, but a depression.

                • -1

                  @Starcraftmazter: What "fact" are you talking about. Cant think of any economic "fact" thats agreed on by all economists, let alone opinions regarding inflation and interest rates. Suffice to say the RBA board doesnt agree with your theory for starters.
                  There is zero chance of a depression here unless the iternational banking system collapsed and economists and govts in advanced countries are very aware of that as a potential catalyst, as you will know if you follow international financial matters.
                  Speaking of that topic, how does a country like Turkiye think yhat Erdogan is a viable leader goven hes presided over the nflation rates in the 80% mark, and still in the 50s? Theyre either living in a dream worlld, gullible, or extremely forgiving.

  • Anyone know where I can park a few million in cash and get a rate like this?

    • Crown casino

    • treasury bonds maybe dunno

    • Maybe not this rate but HSBC offers 4.25% on balances up to 5 million AUD.
      Requirement: balance must increase by $300 per month (excluding interest payments).
      I believe only $250k is insured…

  • Dave Ramsey says I should invest in professionally managed mutual funds which average 10%… What do y’all think?

    • “Professionally managed” — they should apply for a trademark. The easiest way to make a billion dollars is to start with two billion

  • -5

    Stupid people dance with hoops.
    Smarter ones cash in 5% every week on trading……..

  • +2

    Has anyone got a promo code for ING to join as a new customer? Knew there was a 100A$ credit.

  • +1

    Been doing the ING dance for about 12 months, takes 10-15 mins a month to jump through the hoops without even leaving my house. It's money for jam essentially.

    • Isn't it just 5 bpay transfers or buy something from after pay, or one pay pal transfer,

  • Why would anyone do this when we have mortgage that have higher interest rates ?

  • Dutch Hula Hoop: If your ring drops once so do your undies.

  • +3

    Happy I do not have home payments anymore last 15 yrs, but thrilled to keep the Interest rates heading North.
    $400ish a month for 5min effort to meet the Rules of Engagement - sooooo easy thank you very much.

    The low Loan Rates had it too good for too long. Now, once all the CPI settles, can we have a balance between home Rates and a decent Savings Rate…forever…please.

    • Be careful what you wish for. Unless inflation stays high (which along with tax would kill the value of interest returns anyway), it's very unlikely that deposit interest rates will go much higher or stay above about 4.x% in the medium term. Current term deposit rates reflect that

  • +2

    Hope Macquarie is taking note. Been a bit stingy with increases of late…

  • -1

    Terrible bank, ban good customers for no reason

  • Can you take advantage of the round-up feature for the 5 x monthly qualifying purchases ?

    A few people talking about 5 x 1 cent coles/ww purchases, do they end up giving you 5 x 99c round-up or does it not work like that ?

    What are you all buying for 1 cent anyway ?


    With ING Everyday Round Up every eligible card purchase you make is rounded up to the nearest $1 or $5. By switching this feature on you're giving us permission to transfer the rounded up amount on your behalf, as per the Orange Everyday Terms and Conditions. You can choose to round up to your own account (either Savings Maximiser, Orange Advantage or Mortgage Simplifier) or to charity.

  • +1

    Only problem I have is the increase balance is after interest earned… I have over $100k in savings… and I also have a Macquarie account… but I can't just transfer all the excess over $100k as it'll dip under the threshold

    • You can but just have to return it on the last day of the month or follow the other method described by the OP on page 2 of this thread.

  • Who has best rate after ING?

    BOQ has dropped to 4.6% for me.

    • +1

      VIRGIN MONEY if you use the lock feature at 4.85% since 8.3.23, so it should go up soon.

    • BOQ is 5.10%

      • 4.6%? 5.15% for 14-35 yos.

    • St George have decent rates, but their platform, support and onboarding is utter trash, not a fan.

      Macquarie was a far better experience.

      What is Virgin's platform and support like ? Virgin have the same nonsense as ING (Deposit $1k+ p/m and a/c-5+ payments) so if you make a mistake with Virgin you only get the minimal 0.05% interest.

      • +2

        Virgin is a lot easier, as BPAY payments count towards the 5 transactions. So can do 5 x $1 payments to your credit card as this will satisfy the criteria.

    • See the OPs links in the deal description.
      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/145iM6uuFS9m-Rul65--e…

      BoQ's 14-35yo rate of 5.15% is missing from the spreadsheet if you qualify

  • what happens when it gets over $100,000??

    • what happens when it gets over $100,000??

      (1) Excess gets only the base interest rate - currently 0.55%
      (2) Unless you are happy with that very low rate for the excess balance (not a good strategy) then it is very difficult to grow your account unless you transfer most of your monthly deposit out (see below).

      Strategy Ideas - jmo, do your own reading and pick whatever best suits your circumstances
      (1) Transfer significant amounts over $100K to Ubank or similar. A few dollars over is insignificant from an interest perspective as long as you adopt the monthly transfer out strategy (or similar) below. Preferably though don't let your balance get to 100K.

      (2) When you get to say $99,999 make sure you transfer (or spend) all but 1c of your monthly deposit to that other account eg Ubank. That is, make sure you grow your account but by the minimum possible. You can easily automate that transfer however you would need to be mindful of the cost of your 5 transactions and make sure your account is at east 1c higher than the previous month. Having $99,999 (or something similarly close to $100K) will give you 100 months of growth before you hit the $100K threshold. For safety you could choose a lower amount - eg $99K

      Keep in mind that criteria can be changed at any time so it's wise to have alternatives readily available.

      • +3

        From my understanding of how the ING product works, your strategy will not work:
        If the account balance is $99,999 at the end of the month (say April), then on the first day of the next month (May) it will be around $100,430 from the interest earnt (assuming around $431) in the previous month. If you transfer out the $431 to another account and reduce the balance to $99,999 and then add $1,000 and transfer out $999.99 leaving $0.01 behind, you have not met the requirement to grow the account balance and you will no longer earn bonus interest in the next month. To meet the ‘grow your account balance’, the account balance at the end of May needs to be, at a minimum, $100,430.01.

        Also, the 5 transactions are debited from the Everyday account, not the Savings Maximiser account.

        • +1

          Yes correct the account balance at the end of May needs to be, at a minimum, $100,430.01. I would add that its best if you are close to $100k, to deposit the $1k into the Orange account each month.

        • Yep my BLUNDERS, on both counts (transactions not coming from the Maximiser, and not including interest in the growth calcs).

          Thanks for pointing out the rookie errors and apologies to anyone misled (likely no-one, but you never know). The "strategies" were in fact NONSENSE and should be totally ignored.

          Ironically I was faced with the $100K problem recently and was obviously thinking more clearly then. This was what I did.
          (1) Moved "all" (nearly) of the $100K out (to Ubank) near the end of a bonus month. This triggered the no growth criteria for the next month, which didn't matter since the Maximiser was nearly empty.
          (2) Moved most of it back in towards the end of the "0.55%" month, allowing for the annual interest.
          I will have to do the same thing in about 12 months time, depending on changes to criteria and rates.

  • +2

    Macquarie bank has also made a move now 5.05% for 4 months.
    https://www.macquarie.com.au/everyday-banking/savings-accoun…

  • MyState Bank will be increasing to 4.75% from 1 June 2023. So passing on the full increase but slower than in the recent past. Anticipate a similar increase from :ubank also from 1 June.

  • Just wondering if we have to open the everyday orange account they are mentioning or can we just open the savings maximiser to get the bonus interest rate

    • +1

      You will need to open an Everyday account as well. This is the account that is used for the 5 transactions that you need to do to get the bonus interest.

  • -2

    As an additional savings account the extra hoops are a pain. I’ll stick with ubank and look for something else if I go over the $250k

  • "Deposit at least $1,000 from an external source to any personal ING account in their name (excluding Living Super and Orange One)"

    • Can this be added and removed, essentially straightaway? Eg automtransfer in, then auto transfer out.

    "Grow their nominated Savings Maximiser balance (excluding interest earned for the current month)."

    • Does 'excluding' mean that the interest needs to stay and the growth needs to.be ontop of that? or can the interest be removed/excluded and just grow by an amount smaller than then interest. Eg 1c or $1.
    • +2

      Yes, you can deposit then remove that amount straight away and still meet the $1000 per month.

      The simple way to explain the "Grow their nominated Savings Maximiser balance (excluding interest earned for the current month)." is
      At the last day of the month prior, you will be paid interest and bonus interest if you qualify.
      At the end of this month, you just need to ensure you have 1c above the starting balance that you had at the start of this month.

      • Thansk for the reply. Something weing with my head that that doesnt sound simple. Can i ask…

        Doesnt that mean that you essentially have to include the intrest as opposed exclude?

        Does this match what you mean (just using random numbers)?
        If in May I have a balance of $10K all month.
        On the last day of the month I get $100 interest (normal.and bonus).
        I also add $1 on the last day to make sure it grows.

        At the start of June my balance starts at $10101
        On the last day of the month i get $110 interest
        I also add $1

        At the start of July my balance is $10212.

        I guess the question I am trying to ask is, Can I transfer out the interest, and still meet the growth requirement? Eg if i ended june woth $10001 as opposed to $10101. Is that still growth?

        Or do I always need to leave the interest in there, a d any month that i remove it i will lose the bonus Interest?

        Thanks again.

        • +2

          As soon as day 1 of the month has come around, you can do whatever you want with transfers etc.
          So if your balance is 10212 you can do whatever you want with transfers etc, you just need $1000 to be transferred in within the month and the balance to end up higher than 10212. I keep my balance higher than what it required, as the interest is calculated daily. On the last day of the month, I move out $ to another account to pay for bills etc. I just ensure that my balance is 1c higher than the previous month end.

          In short, you need to increase your balance including the interest and bonus interest your earned from the month prior.

          Hope this makes sense.+

          • +1

            @noddypiper: It does. Thanks again. But it does (to me) sound like the opposite of what theybhave said: "Grow their nominated Savings Maximiser balance (excluding interest earned for the current month)."

            My ideal would have been that each month I could transfer the interest out.
            Month 1: 10,000
            Month 2: 10,001 (transferred out interest from M1)
            Month 3: 10,002 (transferred out interest from M2) etc

            But good to confirm either way.

            Cheers!

            • +1

              @Gumbootboy: Yes, the way ING explains it is misleading but the way it works in practice is as noddypiper states. The way to test this is to increase your balance by 1c but not including the last interest. The next day see if you can see a green tick next to the grow your balance requirement. If not add the amount of the interest and then check again the next day.

  • Make 5 or more settled (not pending) eligible ING card purchases - can we do the 5x bpay transfer to CC that you can do with Virgin Money? I think no but happy to be corrected!

    • bpay transfers are not purchases. But payments for services from one Paypal account to another do count.

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