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QNAP TS-431K 4 Bay Alpine AL214 Quad Core 1GB NAS
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[QLD, NSW, WA] QNAP TS-431K 4 Bay Alpine AL214 Quad Core 1GB NAS $287 (Was $489) + Delivery @ Umart
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noBRu on 17/05/2023 - 11:26 umart.com.au (3209 clicks)
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I see $287 selecting Milton?
The price has already been amended.
Yes me too - its $287 at Southport
I've been looking to join the NAS group even thought I have no idea what it does, is this any good?
Haha same! From what I've been reading - QNAP in general seems to be the second best vs Synology when it comes to an out of box experience, and also had a pretty significant data breach last year, but are also significantly cheaper than Synology.
I think the general thinking is that QNAP has better hardware, Synology has better software. If you want something that just sits there storing your Linux ISOs then either will do as long as you secure them.
That's great to know, thanks! I think my primary use case will be for file storage + backup, specifically photo and video files. Looks like QNAP will be able to get the job done, but I'd have to learn how to secure it.
@poppingtags: dont expose it to the internet (aka dont use the QNAP 'cloud' access to access it from outside the network) and you will have nothing to wrry about.
@Laserface: Thanks for the advice, also very helpful!
I'd like to have the NAS back up to OneDrive / Google Drive etc, is that still an option while excluding QNAP Cloud?
@chartparker: Sorry, to clarify - it is possible to have the NAS content backed up to OneDrive/Google Drive, while deactivating QNAP Cloud, which should minimise risk from that particular set of vulnerabilities?
@poppingtags: Yes.
Seriously though: in Hybrid Backup Sync 3 (Qnap’s backup app) there’s an option to sign into your Google drive/Dropbox other cloud accounts which then gives you the option to have those cloud accounts automatically sync/backup to the QNAP NAS. It’s really handy, and that’s without enabling myQNAPcloud access
@Laserface: @Laserface any specific reason why you asked not to expose to interenet though QNAP cloud ?
@netbirds82: I do not use or own one but someone above us said they had a recent data breach, which would mean the username/password used to remotely log in to the device via their cloud service is compromised.
if you dont know what you're doing with security, i would suggest not exposing things to the internet for remote access. configure a VPN or reverse proxy or something. dont ask me how to do either, i dont.
Why would you use a NAS just for storing Linux ISOs?
@bleeder: linux ISOs is code for pirated content.
besides that, not really any of your business what someone wants to store on their network storage. photos? ISOs? pornos? its the express purpose of the device. bits are bits.
bought one. Shipping is an extra $11. Total $298.
This has a ARM Cpu right ? Can't install custom OS like Truenas, Unraid, DSM 7 on it sadly.
Plenty of Linux distributions support ARM, and OpenZFS is built for ARM (not that I would with only 1GB of RAM, but just including since you mention TrueNAS).
While this is true, you need to make sure that the device is supported because unlike on a PC, your installation usually needs to know a lot about the system before it even starts to boot.
Out of curiosity what are these used for ..like a home server?
ive used lower models for a home server and they worked incredibly well. would definitely recommend
I use my NAS to store files (mainly videos) and run some Linux VMs.
I think the NAS needs an Intel or AMD CPU to run a VM, though.
Media server/data backup of important stuff (although cloud services have undermined that use case for most people). Something like this is probably too underpowered to do much more than data storage.
could use as surveillance station (like a NVR) with the camera licence it comes. Also, you can use as entertaintment hub if you store music, videos and accessible thought devices in the same network.
Good for Plex server?
i think you need the intel based processor for plex to work properly, natively
You don't at all, that is wrong.
As long as you direct play, which means the thing you use to play movies on Plex isn't a 10 year old iPhone, you'll be sweet
It will run Plex server just fine as long as you don't transcode. I always play direct and never had the need to transcode.
Should be fine, as long as you don't plan on transcoding.
As long as you don't plan on transcoding, should be fine.
Are you planning on transcoding? If not it'll work fine
No transcoding on this one.
Hey Mate, yeah it'll work OK unless you want to transcode.
Just in case you hadn't already been told.
So transcoding is not an option just to confirm?
No transcoding available on ARM based QNAPs. I have both ARM and Intel based QNAPs and it's only available on the Intel. For the price, you could just buy this and then buy one of those SFF cheap PCs, map a drive to the PC and run Plex/Jellyfin on the SFF with full transcoding, no?
Yes this is what I do with my home network
Wouldn't it be better just to buy one of those second hand Dells that are bigger with an i3 or i5 then and just put the hard drives in there?
Why have two things running?
@KnifeEnthusiastBoi: I dunno man I’m just suggesting ways of getting transcoding working with the bargain NAS
@KnifeEnthusiastBoi: They're generally older gen intel chips aren't they? I think to support CPU based hardware transcoding (which you'll probably want) you need a later gen, off the top of my head I think it's 10th gen and newer? Personally I use a 12gen nuc and 8 bay JBOD and it smashes out encoding for multiple users hardly touching CPU, I was using a huge dual xeon server but even with a 3d card it would smash CPU usage and power usage was huge.
hmm yeah I'm still not sure either.
Can we have a 7th opinion on this please?Transcode? nah Chop, no transcoding here.
Don't even thinking about transcoding, otherwise you're sweet as pie to go!
Can't Transcode on it just incase you weren't aware. :P
I have a NAS that can't Transcode at all so my solution is to use an Nvidia Shield as my Plex server and just keep the NAS as the storage for all of my media.
Sure it's not quite as compact as having a NAS natively running Plex w/ transcoding but the Shield is a beast and does a great job of transcoding.
I thought about doing it on my Shield, but only good for the devices connected to the shield.
Yeah that's certainly a good point.
For me I just use it to watch my Plex library at home on my S95B.I don't have any need to provide any of my peers access to my library because I only really watch 4K quality stuff.
Which my upload isn't able to handle, hence why I keep it all in house.
Yes but don't you DARE try and transcode with this one
I bought a HP microserver way back when to run as a NAS (with freenas) and it was a little complicated for me. Which would be simpler out of QNAP and synology noting I basically just want it as a file and photo back up.
Definitely Synology, but QNAP is a lot more flexible in letting you select different folders for shares and where you point DLNA media at etc. If you're happy with the preconfigured folders then Synology will be fine
Which HP did you get, out of interest?
N40L - its been sitting around gathering dust for a while.
Mine's still going strong - if you were in SA I would come and buy it from you as a backup!
i run xpenology on my microserver for the best of both worlds
Bit of tech knowledge required to setup thoughI've been running an N40L 24/7 for around 10 years, it's the best computing device I have ever bought.
Cost like $250 new back then, and even came with ECC RAM and a 2.5" HDD.
More recently, I've migrated some of its load over to an usff optiplex, but the N40L is still the NAS.
yep i have an N36L and 2 N40L's so i have spare hardware if something dies
was craziness when they were on deal for ~$200 and nobody had stock@Lonewolf1983: Another microserver owner here, considering a modern replacement. Will just stick with it
@RangaWal: yeah i was looking at this post as its a decent deal, but then looked over at the old microserver and it would technically be a downgrade in some ways haha
does it turn off the hard drives when not in use?
I am also using an HP microserver for my NAS setup. I am using the HP Microserver G7 N54L running Linux OS. It has been running probably more than 5 years and so far never had an issue. Would getting this QNAP for my NAS be considered as an upgrade?
This would likely be a downgrade in scope of what you can do, but probably uses less power.
The Edge browser shopping popup informed me that the price was $399 before the deal, they increased the base amount for the discount.
Bear in mind the RAM cannot be upgraded in this model which limits some of the services it can run, such as containers. Although they work great as a basic NAS box - I've got one, as well as a TS-431KX (which does allow RAM upgrades).
Thanks. My Nvidia Shield TV is low on space, I got my very first NAS for plex.
I dont need to RAID for redundancy and would like to maximise the harddrive space.
How to switch off raid ?
Is RAID on by default ?
Can the hard drive be of different sizes?That's good, because RAID isn't for redundancy.
Just add whatever disks you have as JBOD running separate volumes
RAID isn't for redundancy
That's a new one!
Dav3 is probably trolling…
@congo: Not really, if you're relying on RAID as your sole form of redundancy you're potentially asking for trouble. RAID by definition is "redundant", but it doesn't take much to potentially lose your data.
You want actual redundancy for critical data? Put a copy somewhere else as well.
If I setup JBOD using 2 disks, when I add a 3rd disk, it format the first two ?
If I setup the 2 drives using "Single" mode, when I add a 3rd disk, it should not format the first two ?
I've 2 disk at the moment, but will add more later.
I bought this one with 2gb ram for $219. Good if you are ok with 2bay Qnap. Running this with 2 x 3TB drives with Raid 1 configuration.
https://www.umart.com.au/product/qnap-ts-230-2-bay-rtd1296-q…
Price seems okay given I bought one for $299 back in 2019 (thanks Ozb!). Recently upgraded to 4x16TB (again thanks Ozb!) drives and all going fine.
Seems pricey for what you get?
Compare
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/storaxa/fully-customiza…
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005004882612699.html?spm=a2g0…
You linked a $400+ Kickstarter device that isn’t even available yet and a $300+ AliExpress device with half as many bays as the OP.
More powerful CPUs, more RAM for around $100 more doesn't appeal? Its more about the number of bays for you?
To some degree yeah? The strength and appeal of a NAS is for bulk storage. More bays is more drives you can cram together.
If you're looking for something to run as a stand alone server and actually do some computing/heavy lifting then yeah you're looking for something else.If you're looking for bulky storage to be available on the network and nothing else, then why do you need more CPU/RAM?
@Umcookies: Disk on the lan, yeh cpu is not so important. Want to run a home server get a pi or old laptop. So apart from stuff that needs compute near the storage running containers etc on a nas is for messing around with, but it is cool.
What's the max size drives that can be allowed in these? Exisiting one I have accepts only 4tb per slot
I just shoved 4 x 16TB into mine.
Not worth it unless you treat it as a smart external HDD enclosure and use nothing for backups due to 1GB ram. The QNAP OS consumes at least 70% of the 1 GB ram without doing anything. Good luck trying run Plex and stream anything!
Perfect for me. It's cheaper than most 4 bay HDD Storage units ( DAS )
Perfect Plex Server and possibly ' arr ' downloader
$287… refreshed page, back to normal price now
Now I have the NAS ordered , I am after some NAS HDDs. 4Tb or 8Tb ones. Any recommedations ? Also can I start with 2 drives and add another 2 later and expand volume ?
System Memory 1GB DDR3
Maximum Memory 1GB DDR3Will struggle to run some Qnap applications. 2gb-4gb is needed for some apps.
Other than Plex, what other apps, are commonly used?
downloading various linux isos
I use calibre on my Synology NAS.
I've got a Nvidia Shield TV, so Plex can run on that, so I wouldn't need any other special software on the NAS?
So 1GB Ram should be alright?
Don't think I need transcoding.Yep, should be fine even with transcoding. Just need to setup the NAS to enable SMB. Here’s the plex article: https://support.plex.tv/articles/220391808-media-storage-opt…
Thanks!
The article looks helpful :-)
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I think you have the price from Mwave instead of Umart unless the price is different at your store.