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I've found this milk jug to be really helpful in getting consistently well steamed milk for latte art. The temperature sensor on the side allows you to end steaming at exactly the right time (typically 65 degrees), no batteries needed.

Fits enough milk for a 350-380ml cup, with a 36-44ml espresso shot.

For anyone wanting to work on their latte art skills, I'd recommend checking out Lance Hedrick's and Emilee Bryant's milk steaming and latte art tutorials, they're both former latte art world champions and go into a lot more detail than some of the other tutorials I've seen.

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  • DevGuy on 07/06/2023 - 12:05
    +12

    Jug is too big imho. As for temp - just feel the side of the jug with your hand and you'll get used to the sweet spot.

    • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 12:07
      +5

      Fair enough - very much depends on how big your latte is. I've personally found it to be exactly the right size for one of these guys.

      I've also found that if I use my hand as a temp check, I typically stop steaming earlier than I should.

      • sammajohnson on 07/06/2023 - 12:21

        I just count for 10 or so seconds of steaming after I remove my hand. On the Gaggia Classic I even turn off the steam thermostat to help speed up the temperature cooling down for the next shot.

        • TEER3X on 07/06/2023 - 12:37
          +8

          Interesting, never thought to do that, I just wait till I feel some pain

        • kaleidoscope on 07/06/2023 - 18:10
          +1

          Time will vary based on the machine you're using. Entry level would take about a minute to heat up the milk where an industrial machine can do it in 10-15 seconds. You can never go wrong with simple tech like this. (or the one which has analogue temperature gauge)

      • DevGuy on 07/06/2023 - 12:27
        +2

        Yeah massive cup isn't my taste, I tend to make magics (double ristretto + 1/3rd cup of milk). I make two of these using a 375ml jug.

        If you typically stop too early than perhaps go a few extra seconds :)

        • jasiano on 07/06/2023 - 13:54
          -3

          magic lol - 'invented' by Melbournians when Perthites have been doing it for yonks… basically a traditional long Mac but in a cup rather than small shot glass and topped with milk 3/4 of the way ;)

          • DevGuy on 07/06/2023 - 13:58
            +3

            @jasiano: A long mac is a double not a double ristretto, and 3/4 full isn't +1/3rd milk. Either way make it the way you like.

      • skittlebrau on 07/06/2023 - 14:06
        +2

        Then you count to X number of seconds when it's too hot to the touch. After some trial and error, you'll get used to what works for you.

      • Da dpG on 07/06/2023 - 14:15
        +1

        I read, "I typically stop screaming earlier than I should."

    • jaygee on 07/06/2023 - 12:27
      +2

      Too big for what? It's perfect for 1 cup coffee.

      • Archi on 07/06/2023 - 13:54

        spout too wide to pour intricate patterns

        • jaygee on 07/06/2023 - 13:56
          +4

          Yea that's true. The problem I've found is that 65 C seems to be the perfect temp for milk. However when my hand finds the jug too hot to touch, its not even 55 at that point.

          • Kraise on 07/06/2023 - 14:41
            +2

            @jaygee: that's fair enough, 50-55c is most people's limit.
            i normally count to 4 mississipis after my hand is off and that hits 65c.
            this jug would definitely help a lot though.

    • jmel on 07/06/2023 - 12:29
      +2

      Not sure why the neg. And agree with feeling with hands, you’ll get used to it and get much better consistently between pours.

      I prefer wider bottom with narrower top for my jug.

      • outlander on 07/06/2023 - 14:52
        +2

        Probably because it's a dismissive attitude, that while valid in a certain sense, can literally be applied to just about anything.

        Deal on a clothes dryer? Just use a clothes line
        Deal on a car? Walking is healthier
        Deal on a lawn mower? Just use a freakin scythe.

        • DevGuy on 07/06/2023 - 15:33

          Was giving advice on why you probably don't need it. On why I think it's a bit of a gimmick.

          Your analogies are anything but.

          If this saves some people money, I'm happy.

        • Sapper50 on 07/06/2023 - 20:13

          Mowing your lawn with a scythe FTW!

    • spackbace on 07/06/2023 - 12:32

      As for temp - just feel the side of the jug with your hand and you'll get used to the sweet spot.

      100% agree

      • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 12:50
        +21

        I think it represents two different approaches to coffee and cooking more broadly.

        I have a few friends who own significantly more expensive espresso machines than I do - they think the idea of measuring beans, constantly recalibrating grind settings, measuring and timing shots, and relying on a temp sensor for milk is ridiculous, nerdy and a waste of time. They prefer to go with feel, both in making coffee and cooking - they typically loosely go off recipes when cooking, using it more as a broad guide than a strict set of instructions. They're usually very pleased with the results they're able to achieve.

        I personally really love being able to know and play with all the variables in coffee and cooking, and being able to constantly and accurately make adjustments based on the outcome of a combination of variables. I'm the kind of person who follows recipes to the gram and see it as a strict set of instructions to start with, and once you know the outcome - then to play with in a controlled way. I often take notes on the recipes I make, with suggestions on specific changes to make for next time. Is it ridiculous? Maybe. Is it nerdy? For sure. Is it a waste of time? Not to me.

        Neither approach is better and both have their pros and cons, just gotta do what works for you or what you enjoy! That said, for better or for worse, a huge part of the home coffee enthusiast scene is geared towards the nerdy, measure and control everything crowd.

        • spackbace on 07/06/2023 - 12:54
          +1

          Ex-barista here, so yeah, you get to know by feel, especially if doing it on a daily basis and it really doesn't take long to get that feel worked out.

          Given there's only a 5-10 degree sweet spot for the milk, once you know roughly where to stop it then you'll always know. It's not like it varies a great deal, and nothing stops it from hitting that temp (milk brand, previous temp etc). Once it gets there, it's ready

          • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 13:03
            +3

            @spackbace: Like I said, different approaches work for different people. I like to visit speciality cafés and checkout the gear they use - I've noticed quite a few that do use the temperature strips or thermometers and quite a few that don't.

            I do find it pretty funny just how angry both sides can get at the other's approach, just do whatever works!

              • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 14:57
                +3

                @spackbace: Might want to take a few breaths, follow your own advice and read through both of my comments. I'll repeat my point for the third time now - neither approach is wrong, this is a jug that many people, including baristas at speciality cafés find useful. If your hands are all you need, then more power to you - do whatever works!

                Never said that you were the one who was angry either!

          • drewbles on 07/06/2023 - 13:20

            @spackbace: Very true. I have this jug (I have the UK/Sage version of the Barista Express which came with this jug) and I don't even use the thermometer strip on it. When the jug gets to the point I can only tap the metal without being burned, it's perfect every time.

            And for anyone saying 'this is too big', unless you're having a cortardo or short mach, it's perfect for one flat white/latte.

          • Budju on 07/06/2023 - 15:36

            @spackbace: My method is wait until if feels uncomfortably hot to touch with your hand and give it another burst for 2 seconds then she's cooked.

        • jmel on 07/06/2023 - 13:07

          Higher end machines has features that gets the variable right, hence being more forgiving. You need to properly mess up before you get a bad shot.

          Source: Ive changed my setup 3 times

    • JackFrost on 07/06/2023 - 12:38

      Too big? This is perfect for 2x small coffees tbh. If you only want one coffee you need volume anyhow (to get that silky texture) so you just end up with a little wastage. Less milk would make that impossible.

    • Rhubarb Jones on 07/06/2023 - 12:40
      +1

      Yep, use the hand. I was surprised how quickly and consistently I could dial in 54 degrees by touch, which is what I'm going for with soy milk.

      • TEER3X on 07/06/2023 - 12:58
        +2

        Is that the number? I thought it was 60-65?

        Not sure what I get normally, but I'll check with my thermometer. I suspect I've been doing it perfectly all this time because I'm a legend.

        • Rhubarb Jones on 07/06/2023 - 13:02

          Yeah, you'll be perfecto too I reckon.

          I find 55 best for soy, almond & oat.

          I go for 60 - 65 with dairy.

        • Duece1995 on 07/06/2023 - 14:55

          65 degrees is the optimal temp for dairy milk.

    • easternculture on 07/06/2023 - 12:46

      Exactly what i do.
      Or buy a pin thermometer , ive seen pro baristas do that

    • jv on 07/06/2023 - 12:59
      -2

      Jug is too big imho.

      Huh ?

    • bleeder on 07/06/2023 - 13:46

      I find the jug to be too small for the size of flat white I like :)

      As for temp, nothing wrong with using a thermometer!

    • Jayblesz on 07/06/2023 - 16:45

      too big? isnt it smaller than the original? Just… fill it half way up- my Pro seems to work fine using it?

      Although that said, I think the temp gague is a gimmick more than anything. Unless your machine is like chest height its pretty hard to see it unless you actively are changing your position so you can see it (which isnt ideal)

      • DevGuy on 07/06/2023 - 17:20

        I have multiple jugs of varying sizes and find it harder to get silky smooth microfoam with a small amount of milk in a larger jug. YMMV.

    • kaleidoscope on 07/06/2023 - 18:08

      When you compare that with one with temperature guide you'd know how wrong your sweet spot has been :) (Have tried this with 2 folks that was against using thermometer and boy that was a good laugh :) )

      • DevGuy on 07/06/2023 - 18:58
        +1

        I've used thermometers (the kind that clips to the side) and get consistent results with or without, and so does any half-decent barista. I just returned from Italy where not a single barista used a temp gauge, and while their milk-based coffees are a little cool for my taste, they are consistently good.

        Use it if it works for you, but don't go poo-pooing on those of us that have no need.

        • kaleidoscope on 07/06/2023 - 22:27

          There is no harm in having a preference if that makes the job easier. I prefer to use tech that takes the guessing game away and keep things consistent and predictable. Similar reason why I use cruise control whenever I drive, everywhere it fits even if its for a 2 mins drive to the shops. ymmv.

    • slipperypete on 07/06/2023 - 20:24

      not sure why you got so many negs……..good to have differing opinions

    • Ghost47 on 07/06/2023 - 22:28

      When I saw this jug in person which was several months ago I thought it was actually too small.

      Bigger jugs are better overall because they hold more milk so you can have enough milk for two mugs of coffee easily.

    • Diji on 08/06/2023 - 12:22

      Just stop having your coffee with milk and you won't even need the jug!

    • Bluering48 on 10/06/2023 - 12:25

      The best way to keep consistency is to buy a cheap $6.10 Coffee Thermometer at Officeworks.

  • bargainsniper on 07/06/2023 - 12:06
    +2

    Jug size is good for a single large coffee and thermometer one the side is useful but the lip of the jug isn't sharp enough for some precious latte art control

    • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 12:11
      +14

      That's a good point, the lip is more on the curved side, which isn't as conducive to pouring sharp lines.

      That said, I've been pretty satisfied with the latte art I've been able to achieve with it.

      • delfredo on 07/06/2023 - 12:40
        +1

        Good work!

      • Rhubarb Jones on 07/06/2023 - 12:41
        +1

        Noice!

      • bleeder on 07/06/2023 - 13:47
        +1

        Very nice! What machine are you using?

        • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 15:59

          Thanks! I currently use a Breville Dual Boiler which is what that particular cup was made on. I started out with a Breville Barista Express and I also use a Breville Bambino Plus and a Delonghi Dedica with the Rancillio steam wand mod.

          To be honest, once you get acquainted with each of these machines (and with a few upgrades like a deeper portafilter and the steam wand on the Dedica), you can nail very similar coffees across the board. The biggest differentiator is the user experience, and the amount of control you have over the process via the machine. In terms of my preference, I'd probably rank them as Dual Boiler > Bambino Plus > Barista Express > Dedica, but they're all very capable.

          • bleeder on 07/06/2023 - 18:56

            @poppingtags: I have the Oracle, I get great coffee from it that's better than what I get from a lot of cafes, but years of practicing latte art and I still suck! hahah. I've spent countless hours watching Youtube instructionals too. These are about the best we can do: https://imgur.com/a/NCNY8YD

            • poppingtags on 08/06/2023 - 09:19

              @bleeder: The Oracle is a great machine, and that's pretty solid effort! It can be difficult to practice and improve, given home users like us only get to make a few cups a day. It wasn't until I found Lance Hedrick's and Emilee Bryant's milk steaming and latte art tutorials that I really started to understand the nuances behind milk steaming and latte art - would recommend if you haven't checked them out already :)

              • bleeder on 08/06/2023 - 13:17

                @poppingtags: I've watched a lot of both of them :)

                My wife suggested I get a weekend job for a few hours in a cafe just so I can get practice in if I want to learn it so bad haha

    • bleeder on 07/06/2023 - 13:46

      Agreed, my only criticism of this jug is the lip. Beginner not going to know the diff though.

  • Commodore64 on 07/06/2023 - 12:08
    +2

    I believe you can also buy these thermo stickers, I’ve used some for beer brewing

    • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 12:16
      +3

      That is correct - the problem is that they tend to peel off when you wash the jug over time.

      • bargainshooter on 07/06/2023 - 14:09

        I've had mine, bought on amazon for years. Still there, washed in the dishwasher a few times (accidentally by others) but mainly by hand. Benefit of the strip is you can decide on the type of jug you prefer for art. If that's not important, this is probably a good option.

  • Trishool on 07/06/2023 - 12:21
    +3

    Its been cheaper, I bought it from Amazon for $17.97 back on 28th Feb this year.

    • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 12:22

      Wow, that's a great price - looks like it was the all-time low.

    • jaygee on 07/06/2023 - 12:27

      I bought it for $29 :(

  • Budju on 07/06/2023 - 12:33

    Pro tip just search the op shop for these jugs every time you're in and pick one up for a few quid. I don't think I'd ever have use for the little thermostat sticker on the side, which will eventually stop working. I found one in an op-shop that had this feature, it no longer works.

    • snoopydoop on 07/06/2023 - 12:42

      Oh it's just a sticker? I assumed it was an actual thermometer.

      I guess better off using something like this?
      https://www.amazon.com.au/Davis-Waddell-Essentials-Thermomet…

      • Budju on 07/06/2023 - 12:43

        Yes that would be the best option and likely more accurate if you want to get perfect temps. I've got two of those but never bother using them, I know by feel what a good temperature is.

      • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 12:54
        +3

        It's a temperature sensitive strip that has been calibrated specifically to that jug, it's not a sticker - it's built into the cup, so it won't peel off when you wash it.

        I've been using it every day for almost three years now and its still going strong, no signs of slowing down.

        • bleeder on 07/06/2023 - 13:48

          Also have been using for multiple years and putting in the dishwasher nearly every day, still works fine.

  • ky1975 on 07/06/2023 - 12:34
    +1

    I considered this at first but decided against it due to the difficulty in viewing the temperature gauge.
    Instead, I opted for the Stainless Steel Café Milk Frothing Thermometer, as its gauge is facing me and much easier to read.

    • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 12:37
      +2

      I think it depends on your espresso machine's configuration too. Most (all?) Breville machines have the steam wand on your right (when facing the machine), which then makes the gauge very easy to read when steaming.

      • shiny1 on 07/06/2023 - 14:36

        Thanks for sharing this bit of info; I didn't think about it. I'm left handed and it might be tricky for me to view it. Cancelled my order and saved $20.

  • Wiadro on 07/06/2023 - 12:37
    +1

    When I did my barista course I was told as soon as your feel a burning sensation it means the milk is a good temp

    • CandyMan on 07/06/2023 - 12:39
      -2

      Lol

    • ky1975 on 07/06/2023 - 12:42
      +1

      When I experience the burning sensation, it seems to be around 100°C. It is possible that I have a high pain threshold :)

      • hoosier daddy on 07/06/2023 - 13:00

        wouldn't that just mean you can drink warmer coffee anyway? It's all relative

        • ky1975 on 07/06/2023 - 14:28

          Keeping the milk temperature around 70 or lower is preferable to avoid any negative effects. However, I understand your point, but the skin on my palm is thick, which may contribute to a higher tolerance for heat :)

    • damion on 07/06/2023 - 12:58

      My hands are generally so cold during winter that I feel a burning sensation around 40 degrees.
      Subsequently, I always use the temp gauge.

    • AustriaBargain on 07/06/2023 - 14:01

      Means you should see a sex clinic my dude.

  • hoosier daddy on 07/06/2023 - 12:46

    I have this, bear in mind, because of the temperature thingo on the side, they are hand wash only and cant go into the dishwasher. This is per the care instructions that came with the unit

    • Associatedchampakbhoomia @ Amazon AU on 07/06/2023 - 13:07

      been washing it in the dishwasher for almost 2 years now and its still working great -_-

    • OzComment on 07/06/2023 - 13:08
      +1

      but why would you want to put it in a dishwasher at the first place? a light scrub by a sponge will clean it perfectly.

      • hoosier daddy on 07/06/2023 - 15:26

        I put everything through the dishwasher mate, coz (1) I'm lazy af, and (2) it is more water efficient to do that

        Also, I was just putting that little unknown fact out there as it's not stated anywhere, and some people take care instructions seriously and might be put off by this…

      • AustriaBargain on 07/06/2023 - 16:14

        I find when I put it in the dishwasher, not this one but a normal one, it comes out looking like new. No smudge marks, no cluggy bits in the bottom. I always try to add it to the dishwasher and regret it when I forget.

  • lemonty on 07/06/2023 - 13:05

    I also have this and it’s excellent.
    Great size as it has markings inside for a small and large cup.
    Perfect for making sure you don’t heat soy milk too hot resulting in it curdling in the coffee.

  • qtr on 07/06/2023 - 13:42

    pouring spout is terrible.. don't recommend

    • Rosace on 07/06/2023 - 13:45

      What do you recommend then?

      • bleeder on 07/06/2023 - 13:48
        +1

        Personally I like Rhino

      • qtr on 07/06/2023 - 16:52
        +1

        Slow Pour Supply

  • Mister Popo on 07/06/2023 - 13:45

    I got a free one from breville and the temperature gauge never worked… that said, i just wait for the jug to get a bit too hot to hold and thats my cue to stop steaming

  • djsweet on 07/06/2023 - 13:57

    I've got one. Works well. No complaints. As a beginner the thermometer is really helpful. As an experienced person, I'm sure it doesn't matter much, but it's not like it gets in the way, so why not?

  • Eatmoresushi on 07/06/2023 - 13:58

    Do I search the two names you mentioned on Youtube for the latte art tutorials, or is there an online course somewhere?

    Wanted to pour some patterns but couldn't get it right.

    • poppingtags on 07/06/2023 - 16:04
      +1

      Yup, they both have YouTube channels with a range of latte art tutorials. I'll add the links to the OP.

      Lance Hedrick

      Emilee Bryant

    • huyfken on 07/06/2023 - 16:12
      +1

      Yeah they're both on YouTube. Should be one of their most popular videos on each channel.
      Lance's one goes into a lot of detail but is very easy to watch.

  • AustriaBargain on 07/06/2023 - 14:00

    Emilee Bryant

    Why is this such a common trans name btw? Notice a lot of trans people online that chose the name "Emilee" or "Aimee"

    • OfTheOverflow on 07/06/2023 - 14:20

      Probably because it's got one foot in old-school gendered names but is markedly personal.

  • bilbies on 07/06/2023 - 14:15

    There is an alternative on Amazon with a great sense of humour https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0C55D3DLT/ref=sspa_mw_detail_4…

    It’s a “band temperature induction”, has “olecranon”, 1mm “thicken” and made of 304 stainless steel “edible material”.

  • gguu on 07/06/2023 - 14:18
    +1

    I bought a similar item on Aliexpress while ago. Seems to be useless, the temperature sensor is pretty slow so you can burn your milk before it shows 60 degrees.
    www.aliexpress.com/item/1000007494256.html

    • dealsucker on 07/06/2023 - 14:33

      Exactly! I have one and its pretty useless. The temp indicator is too slow to react

  • sevendollarsfifty on 07/06/2023 - 14:20

    This for $1.32 on alibaba does the same job. Bought it around 10 years ago and it's still going strong!

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003808918664.html

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