How the hell can China Ship for Free to Your Door??!? by serpentza
Nothing is ever really free.
Important Update: @pilotyuan says there has been a fundamental change to the UPU https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13918636/redir
Why We Really Shouldn't Be Shopping Directly from China
bargain huntress on 17/06/2023 - 12:34
Last edited 20/06/2023 - 21:51
Last edited 20/06/2023 - 21:51
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But they found soooo many WMDs LoL
And don't forget, the originators of WAPs
Interestingly its the US via Ford Motors who dismantled the last of our iconic local automotive industry by buying Holden and then shutting it down, destroying the brand forever.
If you peel away the anti-China bias of mainstream media, the Chinese-owned former European brands like Volvo and Lotus are actually doing quite well or even better (ie, Polestar EVs. Though MG is still as crap as always).
Ford bought Holden?
Sorry bud I meant General Motors not Ford (can't edit my original comment). Both are American companies who get a free pass from mainstream media in killing off Australian icons.
General Motors bought Holden in 1931.
Ford Australia was a subsidiary of Ford Canada, beginning in 1925.
They were never australian. We never had a car industry.
This thread explains so much
Internationalisation and specialisation reduces costs for everyone. Nationalism and protectionism increases costs for everyone. Of course every country should ensure their own food supply and etc. but fear breeds fear and we all get poorer for it. I'm fairly happy with the balance of things such as immigration but we should probably sort out housing supply, I'm happy for us to give up our manufacturing by crushing our dollar with the export of resources but perhaps we could tax the exports a little bit more to reflect the cost we're all paying. Why on earth do we pay tariffs for importing cars when there is no alternative within Australia?
But what happens when we run out of things to dig up?
The idea is that by then we would have gotten wealthy from the exports but due to current implementation the country will just be a mined out hole in the ground with a lot of people, failing infrastructure, a non-existant dollar and two parties both pointing fingers. Best of luck to future generations, we've sold them out for short term gains that have only been pumped into a prospective housing supply because of tax structures. It only takes a year or two for everyone to decide housing is actually worthless, for all of that hard earned money to disappear simply because we all agree it was never there to begin with. Too many councils trying to pump up property values leads to limited supply though, what can ya do?
Well said.
The world needs less billionaires…they did better, with inflation!
These oligarchs will use whatever it takes to change the focus from a class war
(Occupy Wall St.! ) to a race war ("muh Trans BLM rights!" ),
so the population will stay distracted
and never threaten the profits of the oligarchs,
who are systematically taking away what belongs to the people of the land.@whyisave: It's not only the oligarchs, the political bodies also use this mechanism to keep the people occupied while they (with their oligarchs) do whatever they want..
I once read the phrase:
We're so lucky to be born at the end of the f-around century so we can live in the find out century..
@bargain huntress: You need to see the short video of the graph/relationship between "f around" and "finding out", to understand what was meant.
@bargain huntress: While @whyisave's video explains it beautifully, the definition I got by is that corporations and governments have been f-ing around for the last century and we get to live in the century that gets to see what that f-ing around has done (think pollution, climate change, overpowering oligarchs, etc, etc)
Wish I could buy honey chicken direct from China
These anglo-capitalist countries are being set up to fail,
by trans-national based corporate billionaire oligarchs
who have systematically & parastically taken away significant value
and ownership from each of these countries
(infrastructure, utilities, health care, education, food production, etc.)Now, their profits are being threatened by a country that they cannot infiltrate
(under the guise of 'Democracy' where they can lobby 2 opposing parties),
nor influence from outside (through global media)
nor disrupt socially (through immigration programs).Authoritarian countries are just that…resistant to globalists.
Individuals may 'suffer' internally, but the administrations
are just trying to be loyal to their own people to survive the globalist objectives
and not sell out the country or their own people.
( Obviously, in every system, there are opportunists
who line their own pockets,…so every society has their own oligarchs )So, the name-calling and chest-beating has started,
while they continue to build this narrative over some time,
to justify a possible conflict which was completely unnecessary from the beginning,
if they were loyal to their own people in the first place,
eg. not outsource production overseas,
not export raw minerals and keep the value for its own people,
keep utilities public & in hands of people,
invest in own citizen education,
not join any unnecessary wars, etc.It funny to see so many people here defending china and chinese products.
As a chinese, i always avoid “made in china” whenever possible.
The reason are not related to what that guys said in the video, its just because of bad quality, unsafe, and i simply dont like it.
Yeah right if you keep buying it from the $2 shop .. wtf.
It was $1 bf the inflation kicks in.
Alot of top luxury and tech brands get their items manufactured in China so not sure what you're on about.
You must be buying really cheap branded stuff made in china or from brands that have no quality controlThats why i said whenever possible. Some items like iphone dont have any better alternative, so i have to bear with it. Hope apple can move their production line out of china one day.
But a lot of daily items actually have alternative at same price if you looks carefully. For example, colgate toothpaste - some are made in China, but some are made in Thailand. I always pick the thailand one.
If you go to daiso, most of the kitchenware are made in china, but if you keep searching, there are some items actually made in Japan.
If there are no alternative, buy the chinese product from Aus/ International business.
Never shop at rubbish website like shein or temu, because direct from china is the worst.
Pity the Chinese can't sell cheap electricity direct
dont think serpentza is a credible news source…
So are you saying that we should buy from local retailers, who are actually importing the same stuff from China, and sell them at 100% profit margin or more, without adding much value?
No Thanks. Screw the middlemen. They are one of the cause of inefficiencies in our economy.I dont disagree
But it seems as though we are losing the middle class along with the middle man
If the middle man served a purpose then we wouldn't be boycotting them
Exactly, such as bulk purchasing to get cheaper price and shipping. But without additional larger margin, it will be a usual hard work stuff and won't be a lucrative business.
If it is any consolation, losing our middle class is helping some poorer folk develop theirs!
Just by being an Australian you have won the lottery in life.
Who are we to blame other's around the world for trying to get ahead in this Western-dominated world that we (the West) set up via immoral means to suit us, and once we got nice and comfortable we now force everyone else to respect our moral standards.
I don't think that's the point here. The importers (aka "authorised distributors") can ship products more efficiently in large quantity from the factories/producers. But reselling them with ridiculous profit margin is just a capitalism greed. Well, in capitalism, importing the same product directly from the producers can be considered as a competition to balance that greed.
The middle class is just an illusion created by the ultra-rich and ruling elites as a buffer to protect them from the poor.
For an analogy, if you compare the scale of wealth between them, the poor is like moon or pluto, the middle class is earth, but the rich is like the sun (or even much more). Of course, there are still plenty of people with wealth in-between, but considering the distribution of wealth, there are only the rich vs the masses.But the question is why are we losing the middle class along with the middle man (if that even true)?
Why can't the middle class becomes the primary producer or provider instead of middleman?
Why in this age of advance science and technology and globalisation we still need a middleman?
Stopping trade with China is a really bad idea economically, it works both ways & benefits both economies.(fact).No government of ANY persuasion is ever going to do that.
Maybe you should boycott all American made products for their chemical weapons used in Vietnam, nuclear weapons used in Japan, their illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh and their a fascist democracy. Owned by oligarchs and not represent the needs of the people.