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Kingston NV2 2TB PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 2280 SSD 2TB
Read speed 3,500
Write speed 2,100
Endurance 640TB
MTBF 1,500,000 hours
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Is this good as a boot drive for a laptop?
i would rec one with dram for your os but if it is for storage it is fine, just bare in mind it will not sustain high speed transfer rate when copying/reading / installing/writing to it
Great info. Thanks
It’ll be just fine. Just make sure your motherboard supports it.
Great. cheers
Still waiting for sub $250 4TB!
You could always buy two (although yeah, definitely not far off now)
There was one, but there were only 65 of them. Some OZBers got one. I did ask the store whether I can get one at the same price ($229), the response was no can do.
Yeah I missed out that one too, probably a price error which they honoured it anyway.
No a pricing error, the store rep indicated he made the price change before he went to lunch. After lunch, all gone (sold).
i remember that day, and missing out on the deal. Sad times
I prefer to take a positive spin on it. We'll buy one when it is $228 or lower.
Kingston swaps components on NV2 a lot. The 2TB version has a higher chance of getting QLC. We know USA already started having QLC version. I cannot remember how Tom's Hardware got a 2TB QLC version of NV2.
The thing to watch out with Amazon international SSD purchases is that during the initial return window, if the item actually works, but you are unhappy with it (let's say you ended up receiving the QLC version and not happy about it), since Amazon is not at fault, you will be required to pay for the return shipping. Just bear that in mind.
Back in 2022, I did buy a 1TB NV2 from Amazon AU (seller: Amazon USA). It was cheaper than local, but it has a slightly inferior controller. My experience so far is that other regions seem to have higher turnover and tend to get newer batches and there is currently a cost saving trend happening on SSDs.
The price is attractive and is approaching the cheapest 2TB NVMe SSD herer (PCIe gen 3 x4 version). Problem is, that one offers 5 years warranty. Obviously, that one has just as much component lottery as NV2 and is slower (but if you ended up getting NV2 QLC version, then NV2 could be slower in sustained write).
Is there any way of finding out if one has the QLC version?
Put the drive into a PC NVMe slot, then run SMI flash Id utility, if that doesn't work, run Phison flash Id utility. From the output, it tells you the NAND type used.
SMI: http://vlo.name:3000/tmph/smi_nvme_flash_id.rar
Phison: http://vlo.name:3000/tmph/phison_e7_flash_id.rar
SSD Utils page: http://vlo.name:3000/ssdtool/
If the utility program ended up not closing properly after the test, you will need to shutdown your PC completely and power it back on to stop the utility having an exclusive software lock on the SSD.
Good for replacing 980 1TB? (as game/steam drive)
looks on par with the 980
"and pretty much matches the major competitors, e.g. WD Blue SN570 (590 MB/s), Samsung 980 (600 MB/s), WD Black SN770 (630 MB/s) and XPG Atom 50 (805 MB/s)."
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/kingston-nv2-1-tb-m-2-nvm…
but thats with the Phison controller and TLC flash
on OZB, nothing is good enough to replace anything, unless of course, TLC QLC NV2 PCIe gen3 gen4, PS5, and something something
For all other practical purposes, this drive is totally fine
Back in 2022, the version I received from Amazon USA via Amazon AU was SMI TLC version, not the Phison TLC version. I do have the Phison TLC version. Phison TLC version is better, but most people probably cannot tell the difference (for TLC version).
It's not a good replacement for 980 1TB if performance is what you really care about. If you just want a storage size increase, NV2 2TB currently does NOT top cheapest TLC 2TB NVMe SSD in terms of price and we are seeing SSD price drops every few days. With the potential risk of getting the QLC version (if you ended up getting that version, then the price is most certainly too high), it is a gamble.
However, if you are happy with the price for a 2TB even if it is QLC, then it is fine to get it.
there is a cheaper TLC 2TB?
If you live in Melbourne and willing to drive, yes:
PNY CS1031 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD for $115. While it has 5 years warranty, it has just as heavy component swap risk as NV2 (though so far, it seems to be swapping between TLC NANDs, but certain ones are not good). Cannot be certain PNY hasn't gone QLC on that SSD though.
I cannot vouch for it due to the risk of getting inferior grade Micron NAND or YMTC NAND. However, if you are lucky, you could get …. (um… I think it is best I don't get your hopes up). The controller chipset is dated so it is inferior.
Also, it has been in $119 to $115 mark for weeks if not months now so it is technically not well priced in today's standard. It should be in $100 to $110, but there is a chance Centrecom got them months ago. If the NV2 from this deal is TLC version, then technically, NV2 2TB TLC is probably still better. Prefer 5 years warranty but low cost SSDs from Kingston are all 3 years.
$58.98/TB. Is this the cheapest so far for SSD storage?
I think $50/TB was the cheapest (2TB drive for $100 a month or two ago)
Been cheaper for both nvme and sata ssds.
from https://made-up-reviews.for.people.com/who-thinks/nothing-is…
The Kingston 2TB, relying on the perplexing QLC and TLC technologies, falls short as a storage device, leaving much to be desired. It is best suited for transient data, as it disappointingly lacks the essential DDR (Data Delightfulness Resonator) crucial for reliable storage and Windows booting. Without DDR, it is destined to meet a bitter fate, unable to effectively store or support the Windows operating system, rendering it practically useless.
The absence of DDR in the Kingston 2TB introduces a cascade of issues. Its inability to access the vibrant cache memory hinders efficient data retrieval and undermines storage management. Consequently, entrusting valuable files or relying on it for the demanding task of booting Windows becomes an exercise in frustration, flirting with the risk of data loss, corruption, and overall instability.
Furthermore, the dream of harnessing the Kingston 2TB's prowess for Windows booting turns into a nightmarish ordeal. Without the empowering presence of DDR, this drive succumbs to its limitations, lacking the computational might necessary to handle the intricacies and demanding workflows of the Windows operating system. Attempting to boot Windows from the Kingston 2TB becomes an exercise in futility, akin to navigating uncharted territory without the aid of a reliable map or compass, leaving users stranded in a perpetual state of bewilderment and profound disappointment.
In conclusion, the Kingston 2TB, bereft of DDR, can only be considered a suitable option for ephemeral storage needs, housing data of negligible importance or short-term utility. Its inherent deficiencies make it an unreliable choice for safeguarding critical information or fulfilling the pivotal role of booting Windows.
from https://made-up-reviews.for.people.com/who-thinks/nothing-is…
Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.
We can’t connect to the server at made-up-reviews.for.people.com.
0/7 for website
5/7 for post effort
11/7 with rice.
11/7 with rice.
It's an old meme sir but it checks out.
It seems to be a chatGPT generated fake review text. It's really hard to judge an NV2 SSD deal at the moment. If you get the TLC version, you might be happy about it. The main issue for NV2 isn't nothing is good enough until the next year's drive is out, the issue is component lottery. Having high expectation is risky, having low expectation could be better (but then you may feel the price is still high for a QLC SSD).
The actual issue for NV2 is that we want early / old 2022 batches of NV2 SSDs at discounted price. We know Kingston cuts costs on NV2 so newer is likely inferior.
🤣 omg you are still going
@glade90: I didn't want to, but someone replied to it and the wait till new drive bit is just wrong.
The generated ChatGPT thing also made the API looked bad. If you fed in rubbish statement or question into OpenAI, you get rubbish out.
@glade90: if youre so salty about his objective feedback then just ignore it and move on with your life purchasing storage with silicon lottery
when it comes to tech, even if its annoying AF, specs are black and white.
it either performs or it doesnt
it either is stated hardware or it isnt
you can substitute with different components as long as performance is the same, but generally there are not DIRECT substitutes, only similar
the problem netsurfer is calling out is that its not even a direct substitute, but inferior. Its like paying for a ferrari, but you get camry internals and performance. but OMG BRO it was 75% off!
if it cant meet performance, then its as good as a scam imo
netsurfer is adding significant value to the community with objective information that the layman would not discover themselves and be difficult to obtain and will help them make informed choices
youre just being insufferable
@furythree: Does it matter if QLC or TLC? Not really as long as it can perform the same.
Will QLC replace TLC soon? Yes, there is already QLC that performs as TLC but at a lower price.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/solidigm-30tb-ssd-delivers…
Why is QLC cheaper? By transferring twice the data rate without adding more hardware. Thinking of it as 5G network vs 4G network.
Is this NV2 worth it? Read the ~5k reviews on Amazon.
Looks like my prediction from a few months ago was correct:
1. 20% price drop
2. no drop in rating
Hence NV2 has been doing fine despite being QLC or TLC
Does it matter if QLC or TLC? Not really as long as it can perform the same.
except it doesnt, Theres a whole reason why a distinction exists and performance benchmarks have shown it
if it didnt matter nobody would care.
Will QLC replace TLC soon? Yes, there is already QLC that performs as TLC but at a lower price.
Except the SSDs being sold RIGHT NOW in these particular listings are made of the new QLC coming out in the future. So how is that relevant to these deals?
The manfucturers are just loading them with inferior nand and discounting it move stock
Why is QLC cheaper? By transferring twice the data rate without adding more hardware. Thinking of it as 5G network vs 4G network.
had nothing to do with
Is this NV2 worth it? Read the ~5k reviews on Amazon.
those 5k reviews are HISTORICAL
and all before price drops, which have been due to various factors, two of them being due to global nand price drops but also cause of manufacturers swapping out to cheaper components
These 5k reviews are highly unlikely to be based off the same components.
Furthermore anyone knows that hardware, particularly memory performance is difficult to gauge by the layman via "everyday usage" without saturating it at max performance. all NVME is going to be "fast" in general casual usage. The majority of people buying budget ssds are unlikely to be saturating it the way synthetic benchmarks are to get an accurate and objective and measurable performance feedback
little johnny running minecraft or grandpa joe upgrading his 2001 hp laptop is of course going to say they see an amazing performance outcome with no slowdowns
someone seeking PS5, high saturation prosumer level performance will be more likely to notice.
Just because its "good enough" for casual users doesnt change the fact that objectively theres still a difference between qlc and TLC
What part of PC hardware performance being objective and measurable is hard to understand? trying to argue against that with anecdotal subjective reviews is literally the antithesis of this
performance benchmarks have shown it
Except that for most normal uses, SSD performance benchmarks are utterly meaningless.
As an example, Windows and Games barely change in load-speed from the slowest to the fastest drives… this is despite the dramatically different benchmarks.
@Nom: then go buy DRAMless qlc
aint nobody stopping you for ignoring objective data and having no standards
then go buy DRAMless qlc
I did, and as I just posted above they're absolutely fine 🤷🏼♂️
aint nobody stopping you for ignoring objective data
It's not objective data when it doesn't apply to 90% of use cases.
@Nom: objective data simply means the inherent stats of the hardware capabilities
just because you wont drive a lambo beyond 60km/h doesnt mean it cant reach top speed of 300kmh
but if lamborghini swapped the components in from a VW Polo, people absolutely need to be informed and they can do this and prove this using objective data
not "bro i only cruise down to the club at legal street speeds anyway, so didnt notice anything, its fine"
youre literally being subjective and anecdotal about this and dont see the irony
people who DO need maxed out performance rely on objective data not the "yes i swapped my mechanical HDD for NVME as my gameboot drive and everything seems fine"
also nobody is saying its not good enough for that either. Literally people are saying that QLC is absolutely fine for sequential reads and everyday use cases
but for the top end use cases where you pay a premium for, it absolutely matters
its not mutually exclusive
Your right, it does read like it's AI generated…
I think your comment hits it on the head but - we're probably only getting these cheap SSDs because the suppliers have skimped out on components…
Working link.
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0BDTC589G