Dewalt DCF880N-XE 18V XR Li-Ion Cordless Compact 1/2 Inch Impact Wrench - Skin Only $99 *In Store Only* @ Sydney Tools

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doobey1231 on 04/08/2023 - 09:44 sydneytools.com.au (917 clicks)
Last edited 04/08/2023 - 10:47 by 1 other user

Not a bad price for an entry level impact wrench. Good buy if you are a DIYer or work on smaller vehicles.

No batteries or charger with this one so make sure you already have some dewalt kit. I might cancel my gearwrench spanner order from the other week and buy this instead.. Not often you see skins like this for under $100.

Edit to add: Did a quick search around and cannot find any mention of this being brushless, I'd say given the price and no mention it will be a brushed motor.

2nd edit: looks like its now in store only, sorry guys!

Specs:

Voltage: 18V
Bit holder: 1/2" (12.7mm)
Power output: 250W
No load speed: 0 - 2300rpm
Impacts per minute: 0 - 2700ipm
Max torque: 203Nm
Max bolt diameter: M16
Length: 145mm
Height: 190mm
Weight: 0.93kg

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  sanur on 04/08/2023 - 09:59

  I feel like an impact driver is fine with an attachment instead of this right? Or is this much better?

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    doobey1231 on 04/08/2023 - 10:03

    Depends what you are using it for really, plenty you can get away with using an impact driver but I wouldn't use an impact driver to remove wheel nuts or do a driveshaft nut etc. Of course also depends on the torque your impact driver can output and if its more or less than this, I have a pretty top spec impact driver and it still only just matches this one.

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      angusf on 04/08/2023 - 10:06

      +1

      I use mine to remove and nip up the wheel nuts on rally cars.

      More than enough torque to remove the nuts and it's harder to over-torque when tightening (compared to larger models). Finish off with a torque wrench.

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        doobey1231 on 04/08/2023 - 10:08

        +1

        Same here, I reckon this is more than adequate for a passenger vehicle workshop, $99 bucks and 3 years warranty is a no brainer in my eyes. Waiting for my refund as we speak then I am grabbing it.

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          jamesorion on 04/08/2023 - 14:01

          -1

          @doobey1231: This has pretty low torque for removing lug nuts. It will get some off with a bit of effort, but it won't have sufficient torque to break most free. I don't really see the point of having one of these in a workshop over an impact driver.

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            doobey1231 on 04/08/2023 - 15:19

            @jamesorion: The first thing you should do is differentiate an impact wrench and an impact driver, they are very different tools, there is a reason most mechanics have both and not one or the other.

            Second bit, as mentioned further down, my top of the range impact driver has the same torque as this base level impact wrench, yes the torque is low for an impact wrench but thats because it is a base level, its not trying nor does it need to be any more than that, its $100 bucks.

            lastly this is why I recommended it specifically for home DIYers, it will have zero issue removing wheel nuts/bolts from any passenger vehicles(wheel bolts/nuts are torqued to a specific spec not just hammer-driven home - there is a bit of science behind it, its not simply brute force that is keeping your wheels on). The only thing questionable is how much of a beating this can really put up with, a mechanics shop working day in day out on multiple cars? no, but this product isn't intended for them.

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              jamesorion on 04/08/2023 - 17:41

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              @doobey1231: Just because you torque to 110 or 120 or whatever the spec is for your car doesn't mean you are going to be about to get them back off with this impact wrench 6 months or a year later. We have a low torque Milwaukee impact at work with similar torque ratings and it never gets used. I tried removing lugs with it a couple of times but it wasn't up to the task. Maybe if I let it hammer for 10 seconds they might have budged, but that isn't really what an impact like this is designed for.

              An impact driver with adapter is more useful and better value than this. If you want a DeWalt impact that will remove most lug nuts, the 921 can usually be found on Amazon for around $260.

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                jamesorion on 04/08/2023 - 19:37

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                @jamesorion: Just wanted to add that on the Q&A for this impact on Amazon, somebody asked if this is good for lug nuts and SBD (the manufacturer) replied no, and said their torque recommendation for removing lug nuts was 300 ft lb, whereas this is only rated for half that.

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                doobey1231 on 04/08/2023 - 20:09

                -1

                @jamesorion: It’s literally called an impact the entire point is for it to hammer

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    angusf on 04/08/2023 - 10:03

    This is better for working on cars or anything with a lot of bolts/nuts where you are swapping sockets often.

    A hex head with a socket attachment adds to overall length so wont fit into as tighter spaces.

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      jamesorion on 04/08/2023 - 19:48

      The problem is that this isn't all that compact. A DCF887 with an adapter is around the same length. A DCF850 with an adapter would be around 30mm shorter.

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        snuke on 04/08/2023 - 23:21

        Yeah, my DCF887 with adapter is just slightly longer than my DCF891 Mid Torque. I nearly went a DCF921 but wanted to ensure I had insane torque in case someone welded all my nuts shut or something stupid. I had some nuts pretty well seized on underneath my mower, the 891 smashed them off.

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          jamesorion on 05/08/2023 - 00:16

          @snuke: I recently got an 891 as well. I was considering the 921 which I admit would have been fine for most things I use an impact wrench for, but I went with the 891 for the same reasons as you.
          I'm glad I did! For lug nuts, including rusty over-torqued ones, it is faster than anything else at work, even our Milwaukee high torque. I had a 32mm nut to remove that was tightened to 300nm 15 years ago and was all corroded. I couldn't even budge it with the breaker bar, the 891 broke it free with ease. Crazy how powerful it is given the size.
          For smaller things that don't require much torque I use either my 887 or old 14.4v with an adapter.

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            snuke on 05/08/2023 - 01:04

            @jamesorion: If my mowers bolts were done to spec, my 887 would have worked, and it did on one of the 3 spindles, but the other two didn't budge, and they are known to be a real bitch. 921 should have been more than enough, and nice and small, but I didn't want to risk. After seeing many torque reviews showing that the 891 was setting a whole new level for mid torques, I decided to overkill it for my general needs. Still look at 921s constantly, but I have no need for them, I will only use a torque wrench once every few months at best.

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    Hugh G Rection on 04/08/2023 - 10:05

    for light work yes, the attachments will break in high torque applications.

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      jamesorion on 04/08/2023 - 14:03

      To be fair if something requires enough torque to break the adaptor, this low torque impact wrench isn't the right tool for the job anyway.

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    billadm on 04/08/2023 - 10:11

    -2

    I feel like an impact driver

    An impact driver applies impact and torque and it's best suited for screws where you have to apply some pressure and the tool does the rest of the job.
    A torque driver has much more power and applies it 100% for torque only so there is no impact.
    This tool here should be powerful enough to unscrew your car tyres' bolts or nuts or for any other tasks which require low to middle torque power.

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      OZKap on 04/08/2023 - 13:07

      +2

      I have no idea what you mean by "torque driver".

      Impact wrenches (which this is) and impact drivers have the exact same mechanism inside where a rotating mass impacts on an anvil attached to the output. The only difference is whether the output is a 1/4" hex collet to take bits or a square (usually 1/2" or 3/8") to take sockets, to the point that you can sometimes just swap the output anvils.. Generally impact wrenches will be designed to produce higher torque (a measure of rotational force) as the output shaft is much thicker and stronger.

      The impacts for both are rotational, neither impacts in a forward direction.

      Hammer drills and rotary hammers/SDS drills impact the bit forwards and back, you may be thinking of one of those.

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    snuke on 04/08/2023 - 10:18

    +2

    An impact Driver is really designed for things like driving in wood screws.
    Impact Wrenches are all about undoing fittings/nuts.

    You can use a driver, but it's not what it's designed for. I have a DeWalt DCF887 driver, was their top one, and now only just under their best (DCF850). It is fine for some stuff, but not good enough for others. All it takes is for an over torqued nut, or a bit of seizing and you're getting out of where you need to be. It also means you can end up driving the unit to 100% of it's capabilities, thus wearing it down, over heating it, rather than using the right tool for the right job and have it cover it.

    I got a DCF891 impact wrench, and now there should be basically nothing I can't handle in my world.

    See how they all really compare and what they can and can't do with this great DeWalt overview by the Torque Test Channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu1VGp-HSZs

    This deal for $99 seems like a no brainer if you ever need to undo nuts.

    Also, remember that every adapter you use reduces the amount of torque that gets through. So a driver needs a socket adapter, vs a wrench where the socket goes straight on.

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  flapperino on 04/08/2023 - 10:44

  In store only - no stock anywhere near me :(

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    doobey1231 on 04/08/2023 - 10:47

    +1

    Thanks mate, will update the add, it did have it as delivery when I posted but must've changed.

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    Noddy Doldrums on 04/08/2023 - 17:33

    I'm in Brisbane and earlier today it showed low stock in 3 or 4 stores here. Several hours later, found myself near a store with low stock. Went in and there was none on the shelf. Asked at the counter he checked and none in stock . He then checked all other stores and one store showed 1 in stock. He called them and they had none. Damn….

    Then he tells me he can order one for me at that price delivered. Might be worth dropping into one even if it has none.

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  NoFingIdea on 04/08/2023 - 10:46

  How did you get them to ship it? I only get "In store only".

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    doobey1231 on 04/08/2023 - 10:48

    +1

    Yeah it changed since I posted it by the looks, have updated the post to reflect that, sorry about the mix up!

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  2000voltz on 04/08/2023 - 11:01

  +2

  Just want to point out that the max torque on this is pretty low. Similar to what you would find on an impact driver. Basically the head is different and will be compatible with 1/2" sockets. I did go down to the store and buy this as it will make working on the underbody etc of a car much easier if you don't have a cordless ratchet wrench

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    doobey1231 on 04/08/2023 - 11:08

    Its low for an impact wrench for sure, but you'd be looking at top spec impact drivers to find equivalent torque and you still would be looking at adapters and what not which reduces the torque output at the final connection. Having said all that, totally different applications so it really depends on what you are using it for, if its just passenger vehicles doing wheel nuts or drive shaft nuts then you definitely want to be using an impact wrench like this over your impact driver.

    Like I said for the first fella, if you are a hobbyist and use it for building ikea furniture and servicing your car once a year then buy an impact driver and use it for everything, but if you do anything more than that you are best finding the specific tool for the job. I am grabbing one simply cause 3 years dewalt warranty for $100 is a no brainer. Youd be spending triple if not more for an impact driver with the same specs.

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  sanur on 04/08/2023 - 11:10

  So I'm guessing you need impact sockets when using this, and not regular sockets right?

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    snuke on 04/08/2023 - 11:19

    100% You may crack regular sockets, which can be nasty/dangerous.

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      jamesorion on 04/08/2023 - 17:42

      Not cracking sockets with this amount of torque.

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  Hayeswei on 04/08/2023 - 13:53

  Currently, COSTCO is selling a combo kit, impact driver + drill, plus 2sh batteries and a charger. That is attractive.

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    2000voltz on 04/08/2023 - 14:34

    impact wrench and impact driver are two different tools