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Fenvi Intel AX210 WiFi 6E & Bluetooth 5.3 PCIe Network Card US$16.13 (~A$24.66) Delivered @ Factory Direct Collected AliExpress

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On sale is this WiFi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3 PCIe adapter for a pretty good price if you're looking to add WiFi/Bluetooth to your desktop PC. Given it's WiFi 6E it's future proof and backwards compatible with the older standards.

As for the technical information it's using the Intel AX210 chipset with tri-band support for 2.4GHz (300Mbps), 5GHz (2400Mbps) and 6GHz (2400Mbps), OFDMA and MU-MIMO. Since the Intel AX210 M.2 card is removable you can easily add something better in the future. A USB cable for Bluetooth and both a standard and low profile bracket are included.

AU$ based on current Mastercard rate and GST inclusive.

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  • Thing is, can’t be sure it’s genuine intel. Was going to replace the one in my laptop, but decided to be on the safe side and buy the card from the framework replacement parts store

    • +9

      I have this and it's legit. Fenvi have been very reliable in my experience.

    • +11

      They are, I've bought about 5 of them now of this which is the same but with heatsink
      https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004959613888.html?gateway…

      • +9

        Also bought the version with heatsink, other than the antennas are a bit different (has red rings, but only cosmetics).

        Weirdly, if you could be bothered creating a new account, the version with heatsink is cheaper (normally, it is the other way around).

        Another seller is selling the heatsink version a bit cheaper: https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005005058471483.html

        However, AUD has dropped in value recently so prices kinda have gone up a bit due to the inferior exchange rate currently.

        • +13

          Just a FYI if anyone is considering making a new account. If you create too many accounts AliExpress will ban your account and address from future orders.

          • @Clear: Thanks for the heads up. They always entice me with those "new user discounts".

          • @Clear: You can use Auspost Parcel Locker service to get multiple free addresses.

            Use Revolut to generate throwaway debit card numbers.

        • Thanks, used the link Netsurfer provided and bought for ~$23 AUD. Didn't need to create a new account.

        • The one @netsurfer listed with the heatsink ( https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005005058471483.html ) shows AU$20.86 for me. Is this likely to be legit? It seems too cheap.

          • @Loopholio: Your browser probably hasn't logged in to AliExpress and that's the new user price without GST (GST will be added when you checkout).

      • I guess lower temp is always better, but heatsink is not really essential right?

        • +2

          nope most motherboards am don't have them heatsinked.
          Just makes it easier to clean/keep dust free

    • +6

      I teared down one and have been running additional 2 units in sandbox.

      I can confirm it is a legitimate product. Great performance and reliability.

    • +4

      fenvi wifi card with the red heat sink solved all my home internet issues. I couldn't get a stable wifi connection for online gaming before, not with tp-link cheapie, a mid tier tp-link card from local u-mart or an asus ax3000 from amazon au.

    • Was going to replace the one in my laptop

      How is this going to fit in your laptop? This for a PC.

      • +6

        Just the card, not the whole pcie board. Look closely it’s detachable

    • Are fake NICs a confirmed and common thing? It's not something I've come across before.

  • + US$1.66 in Taxes. (US $18.25) total nvm cleared cache and it worked now.

    • no matter what I do it's AUD$22.86 + $2.62 tax = $25.48? Am I missing something? Is there a way to force AE to charge me in USD and let Visa/Master/bank handle the conversions?

  • I have older PC which has win10, intel i7 3770s and ddr3 rams, will this network card works well with older systerm? currently using ac1200 wifi card and suffering from lag when games are played

    • +4

      It's fine for Windows 10. It's possible the current WiFi card you have isn't the bottleneck. It could potentially be your router or even the age of the computer itself given the older specs.

      • +6

        Or our lousy NBN

        • -4

          As I sit here with my gigabit connection…

          • +8

            @Clear: Aye remember we're one of the luckier ones. A lot of folks are still stuck with FTTN, so I can understand and should empathise with those who have a distaste for the NBN. Rightfully so, too, given the clusterfk of a rollout it was. Also, even with gigabit we have a lousy upload speed. No reason we can’t have a higher upload as a standard.

            • +1

              @wellzi: As of March 2023, 44% of NBN residential broadband connections are either FTTP or HFC (gigabit capable).
              So almost half of households are "one of the luckier ones".
              That will hopefully become more than half/ the majority by years end.
              There's also a lot of households that could upgrade to FTTP, but choose not to. Of the 5 houses either side of me (10 in total), none have switched over yet. I did 3 months ago. We all got multiple letterbox drops, so they're all aware. Point being that 44% under represents the number of households that are eligable for gigabit.

          • -8

            @Clear: To the 3+ dirty neggers….. gigabit NBN has existed in Australia since 2017 and now you can get 10/10Gbps on the business plans ;)

            A neg for everytime I'm right.

            • +1

              @Clear: Good luck getting any of those business plans for a reasonable price. One of my online friends gets a gigabit internet connection for 50 euros a month.

              • -2

                @Agret: Any business needing those speeds should consider other enterprise NBN offerings anyway. Superloop's gigabit offering for $99 p/m for the first 6 months is probably the best deal around.

                • +1

                  @Clear: The plan you're alluding to is 1000/50.
                  Businessess often need more symetrical speeds such as 1000/400 or 1000/1000.

                  • +1

                    @Viper8: I know that. The original point is simple. Dirty neggers don't know gigabit exists in Australia because they're stuck with shitty FTTN or worse. I pointed out it exists and there's more than gigabit, like 10/10Gbps.

                    My datacentre is a combination of dark fibre and enterprise NBN 1000/1000Mbps. You pay an arm and a leg but it's essential.

            • +2

              @Clear: Ahaha wasn't me. I like you, esp. when you arrange mad Dell deals! ;)

              @Clear my point is simply that ALL households (except where understandable, such as out remote or difficult to access) should have got an FTTP connection by default, and that 1Gbps plans with better-than-50mbps upload speed should be available for half the price we currently pay on standard residential plans. I've seen heaps of posts in the US where folks are getting 10Gbps symmetrical for like US$50 a month. Certainly s**ts all over the $sellakidneytoaffordthis that ABB would be charging for the 'business' equivalent.

              @Viper8 whilst true, it should never have been that way. It should have been FTTP from the start and we should not have piss-farted around with this multi-technology BS that ended up costing us FAR more than it should have. I do appreciate that you've introduced a couple of variables though to more accurately reflect the current situation, and I do appreciate the NBN are slowly making more and more properties available for FTTP. :)

              • +1

                @wellzi: I'm not the Dell guy.

                • +1

                  @Clear: Damn. I've been lying to myself.

                  • +1

                    @wellzi: You're probably thinking of dealbot. He hates every other top poster so he wouldn't like seeing that :P

            • +1

              @Clear: I didn't neg you initially, but getting salty for being negged and calling people dirty. Defending the NBN not being lousy is more tone deaf and dirty than disagreeing with you, imo

              • +1

                @NoApostrophePlurals: Here's the problem. I never said the NBN isn't lousy. Not once. Ever. I also asked for the negs if people agree with me, so it would seem many do. They shouldn't encourage me.

          • +1

            @Clear: 'Gigabit' with some truly absymal upload speed, more accurately.

            NBN has been such a cluster. The cheaper end plans are even more of a joke - not suitable for even two people that do anything more that browse the internet.

            The ISPs here seem to be following the American BS model of internet marketing.

    • +1

      Your current ac1200 (1200Mbps) should cover most of the internet speed we have, so I don't think an upgrade to this will help. Unless you had a crappy adaptor.

      One thing you can confirm is to test your speed https://www.speedtest.net/ and check if the latency is low (< 30ms or so). Speed doesn't really matter for gaming anyway.

      Also, DDR3 is kinda outdated.

      • +2

        ram doesn't affect internet…

        • Of course it does!
          You can even download more RAM and it'll even make your computer faster!

          /s
          😊

    • Same. I had an older wifi card and it was causing wierd stuttering and performance issues. Once I isolated the problem I removed it from my system.

    • +2

      I'll always recommend doing everything in your ability to run a 30m ethernet cable to your PC than play games on wifi

    • If you don't have an SSD go order a crucial mx500 500gb drive from Amazon and it will help. A very slow HDD can make everything on your PC crawl.

    • online gaming wouldn't use that much bandwidth, your ac1200 shouldn't be the problem. probably the old build you have mate.

  • +2

    Nice upgrade for those refurbished sff/micro PC deals.

    • You have to be careful with this due the the whitelisting of certain “compatible” cards.

      The abundance of these units makes that easy to find out though.

      • +1

        The whitelisting would only apply to wifi chips installed into the motherboard of that PC. Addon cards like this that go in the pci slots don't have any whitelisting. Most of them are SFF though so won't be compatible with this particular card.

    • +1

      Can’t see any mention of having a half height bracket included, so you won’t be able to plug this in to a PCIe expansion card slot of most SSFs, but if there is already a wifi card then sure, you could replace that.

  • Time to upgrade from the Comfast CF-WU710N-V2!

    I've had poor reception from pci-e cards before with the antennas behind the tower, but now I've got mesh hopefully I'll have better luck with this.

    • +1

      You can get extension cables or antennas that have longer cables so that it's not behind your tower. I usually recommend cables as antennas usually have a specific frequency range they target.

  • Is this possible/worth doing to upgrade the wifi card in an 8th gen itx board? z370n

    • It is unsafe because it could use CNVio 1.0 slot for Wifi (assuming your ITX board has wifi built in). If so, it is incompatible.

      Unless, you are referring to putting this card on the PCIe x16 slot. That will work, but seems like wasting a x16 slot. Bluetooth requires connecting the USB 2.0 cable from the card to an appropriate motherboard USB 2.0 header.

      • AX211 is the CNVio version

        • +1

          CNVio 1.0 does not support AX201 or AX211.

          • @netsurfer: ahh lame, hate Intel trying to segment and proprieties things like that.

            • +1

              @Huntakillaz: It's annoying, and to make things even more confusing. It looks like dual continuous band support WiFi 6E is only available on a special version of CNVio 2.0 for the time being. Also, most deals are recommending with AX211, go with a 12th gen Intel or better setup that supports CNVio 2.0.

              Yet another weird standard Intel introduced.

      • Even if it does use CVNi it may still support standard cards. There are two ways to find out: 1. Just try it, 2. Ask Gigabyte.

        https://community.intel.com/t5/Wireless/Details-about-the-92…

        • I tried it on my Intel 8th gen with CVNi a year ago, The motherboard's CVNi 1.0 wouldn't accept AX210 card. The annoying part is that if I plugged in an incompatible card, the PC won't even boot up. AX201 requires v2 and that also failed to work when I tried it.

          It's not fun with the DIY setup because these newer WiFi cards have tiny connectors for antennas and they must be connected otherwise they won't function properly. So unless you are sure it will work, it is best not to ask people to try.

      • I have an HP Laptop with 10 Gen Intel i5 processor with a Realtek wifi card
        How do I check CNVio/2 compatibility if I were to install the newer intel AX wifi cards.

        • Only Intel use CNVi, so this is not an issue in your case.

        • +1

          For your laptop, you have to check the documentation or ask HP directly.

          In theory, support for CNVio/2 starts from intel 10th gen. However, there is no guarantee the laptop maker or desktop motherboard maker would implement that. That's because if e-key is implemented instead, the laptop maker potentially has more choices. The fact it currently has Realtek Wifi card appears to indicate a e-key setup, which might actually be better. CNVio/2 requires AX211 and AX211 appears more expensive. AX210 is cheaper (probably because AMD systems can also use them so Intel made a lot more of those).

          If you can post your laptop model and the current Realtek wifi card model in that laptop, that will help other OZBers help you figure out your setup. Obviously, it is best to ask HP to get an official answer.

  • +1

    I have 2 fenvi Wi-Fi devices. Highly recommended brand/seller

  • My PC has access to the ethernet port of one of my mesh devices, what benefits does this product give me other than gaining Bluetooth capably?

    • +1

      None.

  • What's the advantage of going 6hz if 5hz has the same speed? Any ideas?

    • +4

      Since the speed is the same the only major difference is that you won't have interference from everything overlapping on 5GHz and 2.4GHz.

    • Depends on your area but generally less interference. If you use the wifi analyser app you can see which bands have the most interference in your area from your neighbours and pick accordingly. My Asus XT8 flags most 5ghz bands as radar sensitive so it ends up channel hopping to avoid weather radars. A 6ghz band would technically solve this except I don't have any wifi 6E devices.

    • Less interference and uses wider 160Mhz channel bands, however 6Ghz is also less permeable through walls than 5Ghz, so depending on the obstructions between the receiver and router there may not always be an improvement.

  • +2

    AX210 has great linux support, if you're struggling along with realtek wifi chips this is a big upgrade.

  • Page is gone??

    • Still works for me

  • +2

    It shows up as $18 + tax when you do not pay the posters commission referal? rates

    https://m.vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005005061754557.html

    • That link is even more expensive on my end

      • What a strange site
        AU$18.43. 73% off
        Price shown before tax

        • $30.69 NZD (your link) vs $27.14 NZD for me. I also can't see any referral in their link.

          • @ldd-mn: If i click to view after ordering at au$18
            It now shows up au$26

            • +1

              @cski: new user got welcome deal. existing user don't.

  • Can you take out the actual wifi chip and put this in a laptop?

    Also why does description say a USB cable is needed for Bluetooth? Shouldn't that just work over PCiE? Will this be an issue if this was used on a laptop?

    • +2

      Bluetooth works via USB. Need a cable otherwise the card needs another USB chip. Wifi cards in this form factor has easy access to motherboard USB headers so why not just utilise that.
      M.2 slots for Wi-Fi (A/E-key) also supports USB passthrough so wifi cards in this slot also provides BT without cable.

    • +1

      Assuming your laptop uses the same slot, yes it will work. Just remember to hook up the antennas.

      The USB cable is for the pcie card to interface with a desktop PC. If you're using the actual module itself you won't need the cable. the module on their photos looks exactly the same as the module I bought from Amazon Germany.

      Just keep in mind that antennas are meant to cover specific frequency ranges, so whilst you can put it in an existing laptop, you may not be able to use the 6ghz bands if the wifi antenna in your laptop doesn't support it. I upgraded the Realtek card from my laptop to the Intel card and my connection is more stable.

  • Ignoring price, how does this card's (using an AX210 chip) performance compare to the likes of cards using an AX200 chip like the ASUS PCE-AX3000 ?

    I have one and find the wifi connection speed somewhat lacking

    • +1

      Both are technically still 2402mbps max speed depending on your router so may not change much. You may be better off getting extension cables to relocate your antenna depending on the position of the antennas on your PC relative to the router.

  • +1

    I've been using an N300 adapter for ages. Though unsure if I will benefit as a general user, I bought one to finally move a decade forward.

  • +1

    Cheers for this, great price for a AX210, been looking for something like this for a week or so! Picked it up for my wife's PC, it's been having terrible connection issues with the USB WiFi dongle I've been using, so going to give this a shot.

    Also fun fact for anyone playing with AI things, the PCI-E to M.2 A/E adapter in this can be used to connect the Google Coral (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/792019) accelerator to a PCI-E slot if you setup doesn't have a M.2 A/E to use for your niche use case. But this adapter likely only exposes 1x PCI-E lane to the M.2 A/E card (I am not techy enough to know if it does or doesn't for sure), but what that means is that the 2 TPU (Dual Edge) Coral that comes in the M.2 E key format will not be fully functional with an adapter like this, just one of the 2 TPU will be detectable by the host PC.

  • +1

    @Clear

    Much thanks - love your deals, grabbed one - appreciate your efforts.

  • I have to pass this deal. good choice. but not compatible with LENOVO THINKCENTRE……………

    • Which Thinkcentre specifically? One that's a mini and too small to fit this?

  • I have one of these and although it works, I get high packet loss. Cheap USB dongle worked better. You get what you pay for…

  • Does anyone know if I can install this AX210 Intel card (and remove the old one) inside one of the Gigabyte WBAX200 PCIe cards and have the antennas work with Wifi 6E and BT 5.3? Or are the antennas with the Gigabyte limited to Wifi 6/BT 5.0?

    This is what I'm talking about: https://www.gigabyte.com/au/Motherboard/GC-WBAX200-rev-10#kf

    • The one you have is 6 not 6E, so no, it won't work. (Unless for some reason Gigabyte decided to use the same antenna for 6 and 6E products.}
      BT is always the same frequency so there is no issue there.
      Why would you do that anyway?

      • +1

        Please kindly avoid making guesses. That gigabyte card is basically a PCIe x1 card. There are lots of those cards around, the only difference is it is Gigabyte branded with slightly different antennas. I have put AX210 on an el cheapo AliExpress version on such card, it does work fine.

        The reason for the upgrade is that AX210 is quite cheap. Also, you need to understand AX200 and AX210 before you comment on the antennas.

        • and have the antennas work with Wifi 6E

          • @McFly: The card is still 2T2R, and the number of antenna sockets on the two cards are the same. I really don't want to go through the fundamentals. You can google it yourself.

            • @netsurfer: I'm referring specifically to the frequencies the antennas do or do not support.

              I don't need any help with the fundamentals, thanks.

              • +4

                @McFly: Please google yourself. I really don't want to go through the fundamentals.

                Let me put it this way, the antennas I am using on my DIY AX210 version are antennas from an ancient wireless N router which I chucked away years ago. If you have the necessary plug converters, even portable TV antennas will work.

                I don't need any help with the fundamentals, thanks.

                You should spend your energy and time reading Antenna (radio) first.

    • +1

      You can do that to upgrade it. You need to get an AX210 card. Just a heads up, the antenna plug connectors for the actual wifi card are hard to connect and if you ended up breaking those connector wires, it will be harder to replace them.

      Honestly though, it is better to just buy this card since it is all ready to go unless you find Gigabyte's antennas are more flexible and do help getting better signals. AX210 is still 2T2R based cards. Without going into the details, to be honest, while AX210 is WiFi 6E, it is still consumer grade WiFi 6E card. It has support for 6GHz band, but unless your router supports that, you won't be able to use that band anyway. However, AX210 is relatively cheap.

      • Just to add to this, @jeppetto367 the antenna tech between 5GHz and 6GHz hasn't changed from the production units I've seen (this is just based on trying out WiFi 6 and WiFi 6E dongles/WiFi cards and being able to swap the antennas around without seeing any change) - they all have the same screw connector and the internal components seem to be the same, you should be fine to buy this card and either:

        1) replace the whole WiFi PCI card (your complete Gigabyte WBAX200), and then use your existing Gigabyte antenna by connecting those two wires to the screw connectors at the back and it should just work fine

        2) replace only the AX210 E Key card with the old AX200 E Key card on the board - but like Netsurfer said, those wires are very fiddly and if you don't have experience with that, do 1) instead

        • You've taken antennas apart and checked their frequency support?

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