It's nearing the end of 2023, how many vaccines are you up to? Are you planning on getting more?
How Many COVID Vaccines Did You Get?
deme on 01/10/2023 - 12:00
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How heavy are you?
That's a question with so little obvious connection to my posting that before I answer I have to ask what relevance my weight is.
Well CMV is a main underlier of GBS, and the underliers' of CMV generally relate to immune system problems of which obesity can play havoc, so it's pretty connected…but hey I'm sure your doc told you all this. Right? I'm guessing you probably ignored their medical advice due to your very last sentence as no legitimate doctor would EVER tell you that.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: CMV may well be the most common trigger for GBS. But I didn't have CMV triggered GBS. I had vaccine triggered GBS. Specifically COVID vaccination triggered GBS.
Through the whole exercise I got sick of medicos who didn't know what they were talking about. First of all they said don't worry about having the vaccine, there's no medical data that says previous auto-immune conditions suggest you shouldn't have it. So I did what they said, I got the vaccination. Then they didn't know what these mysterious symptoms I was having were in my feet, then my hands, then my diaphragm, then my face were. Was it some form of arthritis? No, tests said it wasn't. So we don't know. Then what's GBS, never heard of it. Then that it couldn't possibly be GBS because we know the vaccine's safe. Then, gee, the timing of the symptoms, and the order they happened in do match exactly what it says on the TGA web site for GBS caused by the vaccination, don't they. Now I see the advice they are giving people who've had auto-immune conditions is to not have yearly influenza vaccinations. Which is EXACTLY what I suggested them might be the case in regard to the COVID vaccination way back at the start of the debacle.
I'd previously been hospitalised with AGEP. And after that I had vasculitis. Are you going toi say they are linked to CMV?
@AustriaBargain: 92 kg. Which I don't pretend is ideal weight, but is also not the "extreme obesity" that has been linked to CMV. And while there has been research done overseas saying there is a link between that and CMV, I can't find any Australian official information on CMV that lists that amongst the risk factors.
So its a ridiculous stretch by someone who won't admit they're losing the argument for them to try to link my GBS to CMV when GBS is a medically-established known risk associated with vaccinations, and my case occurred exactly the amount of time after my AZ vaccination as is typical.
@GordonD: It sucks what you've gone through. The idea behind herd immunity is so that people who cannot Vax, like yourself, is protected indirectly through other people being vaxed/ having immunity. If I was you, I would be encouraging others to Vax, as it would greatly benefit you and others with medical issues like you.
@GordonD: So many medical issues there, and again stems down to a personal experience annecdote. You sure a cheeseburger didn't trigger GBS? As much evidence of that as CV19 vaccine triggering GBS.
Now I see the advice they are giving people who've had auto-immune conditions is to not have yearly influenza vaccinations.
Going to need a citation for that. That's false, misinterpretation or a lie. TGA recommends inactive vaccinations, which they precisely are.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: I think I'll rely on the AusVaxSafety brochure on this issue titled "Approach to Influenza Vaccination in Patients with a History of Guillain-Barre Syndrome", thanks very much. It relates to GBS after a previous Influenza vaccination, but in the absence of research on GBS after COVID vaccination, and how dodgy I know from personal experience the official statistics on that are - BECAUSE THE TGA REFUSED TO COUNT ANYTHING BUT SEVERE CASES - that's close enough for me.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: "Well CMV is a main underlier of GBS"
Sorry I call bullshit regarding this. I havent met an obese GBS survivor yet. Met a few in Wheelchairs tho.
The doctors can't even explain how mine happened (they think a gut virus ???) but I'm leaning towards my first flu shot years earlier.@GordonD
Sorry you had to go through this, I have CIDP which is the chronic form of GBS, they usually diagnose GBS first. just missed a ventilator by days thank God, thanks too IVIG/plasma.
Still was in hospital for months and had to learn to walk again going in-house Rehab for weeks on end.I'm almost back to normal but what a journey, I understand the taps, furniture surfing, pain etc , Hopefully off the plasma in the next few months. It's been 4 years of fighting to get there.
If you want too chat pm me I'd be glad too…😀😉Oh another shout out to the plasma donors , you change lives and we thank you from the bottom of our hearts …♥️
Safe and effective!
Sorry for what happened, you are not the only one, not by a long shot.
My Mum had Transverse Myelitis after her two doses of AZ (confirmed by specialists to be caused by AZ vaccine), which for a while they thought may have been GBS.
She was an incredibly healthy woman, living an amazing adventure fillled life which had to stop. She lost all sensation and control over her body from the waist down, was in hospital for 8 weeks, and still doesn't have sensation in her feet, her left leg, and cannot walk properly or resume life as normal. It's permanent and she'll never recover :(
Transverse myelitis wasn't considered a reaciton to the vaccine for almost 12 months after as well, so she wasn't included in any statistics.
As a response to the above commenter @zeggie, she has also been told to not get any more vaccinations by both her specialist and GP.
I feel for you @GordonD, hope you are going well!
Sorry to hear of your mums reaction.
There are others who have suffered transverse myelitis after the jabs.
This one after the pfizer:
https://rumble.com/v3hlxjs-pfizer-shot-took-my-health-and-ca…Unfortunately doctors are very hesitant about reporting effects or attributing them to the jabs. Until more start speaking out, things will stay the same.
Unfortunately some people will have a negative reaction, and that is really terrible, but the death toll and the effects of long Covid would affect a lot more people if people weren’t vaccinated. I do wish people affected by the vaccines the best for their recovery. If you look at any medication that people are prescribed there is, usually, a paper screed of adverse effects because a small number of people have been affected. However, the medicine is still prescribed because it benefits a lot more.
but the death toll and the effects of long Covid would affect a lot more people if people weren’t vaccinated.
Unfortunately, this is an assumption. It is impossible to know. It can be "modeled" only, which in itself is at best a guesstimate, and based on what assumptions & parameters are built into the model, it can be made to produce whatever outcome is desired. And in the case of "covid" that outcome should be obvious to all.
Yeah of course. And it's the decision of the doctor and the patient to determine whether the risk of side effects/the side effects are worth the benefit from the medication (in the case of covid vaccination where lots of people had to decide between getting a vaccination and being unemployed rather than just health outcomes)
Unfortunately with the Covid vaccines lots of the side effects were not disclosed prior to getting the vaccination, as they were not known. Had they been known, I would assume the rates of vaccination would be very different.
Unfortunately with the Covid vaccines lots of the side effects were not disclosed prior to getting the vaccination, as they were not known. Had they been known, I would assume the rates of vaccination would be very different.
How would you feel if they had a pretty good idea about the side effects?
Page 17 of this pdf: https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download
October 22 2020, 2 months before the first jabs were rolled out in the US (Dec 2020) & about 4 months before they were rolled out here in Australia (late Feb 2021). You'll notice things like thrombocytopenia, strokes, clots, myopericarditis, transverse myelitis among the "draft" list of "possible" side effects.Page 31 of this pdf: https://www.fda.gov/media/143530/download
Lists the same effects.A transcript of the VRBPAC/CBER/FDA session that features those 2 presentations is here: https://www.fda.gov/media/143982/download
The page where all the documents can be downloaded is here: https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-c…
In other words, back in October 2020, before the rollout, they knew what to look out for.
In my opinion, it should be automatically assumed that anyone who suffered any of those events listed post jab, was caused by the jab, until proven otherwise. Not the other way around, which is how things have played out.
You would still assist a vaxxer if they took ill in your presence though, right?
Of course. I wouldn't be asking them their vaccination status.
Sorry to hear, but just to emphasis her GP told her that because she doesn't have GBS. Opposite of poster I replied to.
That's a copout response. If it looks like a duck, and it flies like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, its a duck. If two people have damage to the myelin sheaths of their nerves after taking a vaccine, it doesn't matter to them whether the medical profession calls it transverse myelitis or GBS. Its not the "opposite", its just a variation of the same.
@GordonD: I know reading is hard for some, but look at my original post that you replied too. My point stands. No GP is telling anyone to 'never take vaccines' again because of GBS.
where is the option for 69????
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What happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors!!!
The COVID vaccines have proven to not be very effective compared with previous vaccines. They don't provide much protection from getting infected for very long, and they don't reduce much the chance of passing it on, but they do substantially reduce serious COVID cases. A plausible explanation for that is that they are injected into the arm, but you catch and pass on COVID in the upper respiratory tract. So they don't put the needed antibodies where they have to be to stop you getting infected, they just stop the virus spreading through the body.
The best protection from getting COVID (again) is getting COVID. That provides at least as much protection as a vaccination, but for much longer. However getting COVID has more risks than getting a vaccination. The second best protection is getting infected with a related virus, like the common cold. Its not very effective, but catching a cold is pretty low risk for most people.
Newer COVID vaccines with more appropriate administration methods, like a spray up your nose, might be more effective.
Newer COVID vaccines with more appropriate administration methods, like a spray up your nose
You're in luck, friendo. They developed a cool/terrifying mRNA technology like that just last month.
anal suppositories will increase the uptake
Is there a different type of suppository? Just asking for a friend…
Wikipedia
There are three types of suppositories, each to insert into a different sections: rectal suppositories into the rectum, vaginal suppositories into the vagina, and urethral suppositories
I did not need to know this
The initial doses, and one booster. I should have gotten the updated booster because I got covid a few months ago. Was not fun. I should have got the boosters after that too, but so lazy.
We are blessed with so much medical insight on this forum.
This is why Ozbargainers are all earning $200k+. We are doctors, vaccine researchers and immunologists. Thought it was obvious.
OZTAGI
If the advice of the Gov conflicts with OZTAGI, I'd choose the collective wisdom of the latter over the former!
Everyone here is DrOZ, so we have to be mindful of our comments!
Zero (thank deity)
Type 2
High blood pressure
previous Cytomegalovirus weakening my immune system
FibromyalgiaI did not wear a mask outside
Had covid twice:
1st was rough for 2 days or hot and cold sweats and a slight throat tickle then nothing
2nd time was for about 6 hours of feeling a slight fever and then nothing but tested (just for my own benefit) positive when feeling fineI could not care less what your personal views are but i am a real live living autoimmune compromised human who is still alive and had the supposed death lurgy twice
Looking back on it all now and what is happening around us i am more than ever grateful (feel free to flame) i did not stick this SHITE in my arms but i respect your right to jab yourself until you are a sieve if you want to.
I could not care less what your personal views are but i am a real live living autoimmune compromised human who is still alive and had the supposed death lurgy twice
Well I'm alive, you don't hear anyone who died talking about it, therefore not many people died.
I knew someone who was unalived thanks to the death lurgy.
Your point?
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: Psst, the tests have more 5G in them than the vaccines and a tracking device as well.
Don't tell the antivaxxers.Of course to know you have had covid( death lurgy) you would need to have had a test,otherwise you'd be FOS, not full of covid.
You clearly don't understand their point and instead are resorting to juvenile insults.
We're up to about 20 'sudden and unexpecteds' at my wife's workplace, mind you it is a large organisation with thousands of workers.
These kinds of studies have been done & continue to be done & seeded in the media in order to deflect attention away from the jabs being a potential cause:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/covid-19-diagnos…
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/what-to-know-about…
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/news/2023/sars-cov-2-infects-coron…
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-09-covid-heightens-heart…Australian Defence Force I assume?
You want people to announce their upcoming deaths?
Over a million Americans are dead earlier than they otherwise should have been because of covid. It's no yoke. My great grandparents wore masks during the Spanish flu and Russian flu, mandated by their governments, and I'm glad they did otherwise I wouldn't be here today. Although sometimes I wish they didn't..
I did not wear a mask at FIRST because i simply could not breath properly.
Worried about a jab, but not worried about serious obesity related health issues?
@Motek Benzona: How many stars would you rate it?
⭐⭐⭐⭐ out of 5 wouldn't mind going through it again?@Ughhh: Ease of recovery 5
Actual symptoms 3
Government advice 0Much rather have it again than stick some stuff in my arm that wont stop me…erm…having it again.
Anything else? I'm all ears
@Motek Benzona: Same ratings as being kicked in the nuts probably. No big deal.
arm that wont stop me…erm…having it again.
Wait, you saying the Vax doesn't protect you by forming some shield bubble over you???
@Motek Benzona: I think they're pointing out the irony of you having serious health issues but being opposed to medical advice to prevent serious medical issues
@Motek Benzona: It sounded like from your comment you have serious medical issues, happy to be corrected if not the case
@Motek Benzona: 77kg? Then why on earth could you not breathe in a mask? You realise some peeps do 12+ shifts with minimal breaks in them right?
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: Well thats none of your business is it? How stupid of you suggesting weight is connected to mask wearing via some kind of sliding weight scale
@Motek Benzona: Ok so if you're so perfectly healthy and handsome, why did masks bother you so much?
Nobody should of been mandated to wear a mask, let alone inject modified rna into bodies.
@mrdean: Nobody should be mandated to use public bathrooms. We are creatures of nature. We should be allowed to urinate on the streets.
Maybe look that number up, over 95% of them died from normal stuff bit with a 'positive pcr result', the abject lies around inflated covaids numbers are pretty much common knowledge by now. It's embarrassing that people still believe the whole scam was real when nobody noticed anyone getting sick or dying around them in 2020 in any greater numbers than any other year. Except for on the TV of course.
You got it bad,dude
Excess mortality is a term used in epidemiology and public health that refers to the number of deaths from all causes during a crisis above and beyond what we would have expected to see under ‘normal’ conditions ¹. According to Our World in Data, the number of deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic in the US was above the expected number of deaths ¹. The excess mortality rate in the US was 17% higher than what was expected for the year 2021 ². In 2020, the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9% compared with 2019 ⁴. COVID-19 was the underlying or a contributing cause of 377,883 deaths in 2020 ⁴. In 2022, COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause or a contributing cause in an estimated 244,986 (7.5%) of the total deaths ³. The estimated age-adjusted death rate decreased by 5.3% in 2022 compared to 2021 ³.
I hope this information helps.
Source: Conversation with Bing, 1/10/2023
(1) Excess mortality during the Coronavirus pandemic (COVID-19). https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid.
(2) Preliminary data shows a higher death rate and an increase in excess …. https://usafacts.org/articles/covid-excess-deaths-causes-202….
(3) Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020 | MMWR. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm.
(4) Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2022 | MMWR. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a3.htm.
(5) COVID-19 Mortality Update — United States, 2022 | MMWR. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7218a4.htm.@AustriaBargain: Nah man, if I can't see it, it doesn't exist! I can't see gravity nor air, so those don't exist either!!! 1!!1!! /s
@AustriaBargain: The CDC is biased and is part of the deep state. Here is a link to a blog post by a man who calls himself Doctor, because he has a doctorate in Philosophy. He also sells an ebook with all profit going towards buying a boat.
@Aureus: Yeah, got to love the people who use “doctor” when they just have a PhD. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. A lot of this “information” is peddled by people who’ve found a way to monetise fear and ignorance. Unfortunately they are making people fact proof. We all know the village has a witch who is souring the crops so let’s get a mob together and burn her. If the crops still sour then there must be another witch. If only they applied some scientific rigour to the crops they might fix the base issue. That is what we did with Covid. We still have some patchy sections but it has fixed the majority of the issues.
People only need to look at the old graveyards to see the toll that childhood disease used to extract prior to vaccination. Yes, it is very tragic when a child is affected by a vaccine but that is very rare. You also get the mob who try to attribute vaccination to issues that were, already, underlying and not picked up yet.
Me, I worked for State Rivers and Water Supply so I’ve probably had more vaccinations than most people here. They also delivered a number of these in a short period of time. I could’ve done without the sore arm and the slight fever but if I’d caught any of the diseases I was being protected from it would’ve been far, far worse.
People only need to look at the old graveyards to see the toll that childhood disease used to extract prior to vaccination.
Deaths from childhood diseases were declining before mass vaccinations.
https://vaccinationdilemma.com/historical-death-rates-diseas…
These graphs had to be compiled from data in various government publications. The graphs were never produced by governments themselves because it would go against the belief of vaccination being a necessary public health measure.
@AustriaBargain: What were the excess death rates
1) in the US over the previous decade?
2) in Australia?
and 3) were there any changes in the standards for reporting and measurement in those years?2018 sure looks spicy on their graph, and that's despite this source very likely being biased toward emphasizing the covid hysteria. What pandemic did we have in 2018 again?
The 1m number is excess deaths, just like Aids or many other diseases you usually don't die of the disease itself but from something else because your body has been made so weak just about anything can kill you.
@gromit: In that case shouldn't the actual cause of death be cited rather than something that 'may' have merely pushed things over the edge?
Otherwise I agree, people get old and weak and sick and then they die, this went on as normal during 2020 but every single death, including car accidents and gunshot wounds were being reported as covid deaths on the basis of the dead person getting a positive PCR result in prior few weeks (or in some cases after they actually died). Why would the establishment do this if not to scare people into submitting to their injections and acts of tyranny and violence?Lets face it, if there were a real pandemic, people would know about it and willingly line up for any protection they could get. Those who didn't turn on their TV's wouldn't have noticed anything different from any other year.
@EightImmortals: It is pretty simple. The effect of covid can be calculated from excess deaths, which is how the 1m number was reached, not by counting accidents or gunshots. What individual areas put on their cause of death is irrelevant, but would like to see some citation where covid was the official cause of death of a gunshot or accident victim!
@gromit: If we have to run to official numbers to determine a 'pandemic' then it's not much of pandemic really is it now? As I said, in a real one, every one would know about it without turning on the TV. Though IIRC they did change the definition of 'pandemic' sometime in 2020 also.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/new-zea…
https://www.westernjournal.com/county-counted-car-crash-covi…
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/florida-motorcyclist-covid…
"A person who died in a motorcycle accident was added to Florida’s COVID-19 death count, according to a state health official.FOX 35 News found this out after asking Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino whether two coronavirus victims who were in their 20s had any underlying conditions. One of his answers surprised us.
“The first one didn’t have any. He died in a motorcycle accident,” Pino said.
Dr. Pino was asked if the man’s data was removed.
“I don’t think so. I have to double-check,” Pino said. “We were arguing, discussing, or trying to argue with the state. Not because of the numbers — it’s 100…it doesn’t make any difference if it's 99 — but the fact that the individual didn’t die from COVID-19…died in the crash. But you could actually argue that it could have been the COVID-19 that caused him to crash. I don’t know the conclusion of that one.”
https://www.rt.com/usa/495806-florida-covid-deaths-unrelated…
https://www.westernjournal.com/mn-senator-physician-blows-wh…
" Rep. Mary Franson and Sen. Scott Jensen revealed their own findings after look over thousands of “death certificate data points” and found that the number of COVID deaths was being inflated by roughly 40 percent."
I also remember seeing a U.S. coroner who had just examined two guys who died in a gun fight got listed as 'covid' deaths as well. At the time she was fighting to have them properly listed.
These are just the tip of the iceberg when it cam to over-inflating the numbers. Pretty sure some of them were corrected later, but not before the scary numbers got plastered all over the TV 'news'.
"What individual areas put on their cause of death is irrelevant…"
Umm, no, that's the whole point, if places were putting down 'covid' as the COD when it wasn't then all the numbers that follow from that will be skewed as well. 'ALL-cause- mortality would be relevant though, but the claim during the plandemic was not that 'the overall death rate is rising' it was that 'a covid pandemic' was the cause'.
Umm, no, that's the whole point, if places were putting down 'covid' as the COD when it wasn't then all the numbers that follow from that will be skewed as well. 'ALL-cause- mortality would be relevant though, but the claim during the plandemic was not that 'the overall death rate is rising' it was that 'a covid pandemic' was the cause'.
Then genius please explain what was causing all the deaths if it wasn't Covid as many other death causes were down during covid like suicide and flu etc.
PS: if you are going to site stuff you might want to exclude the conspiracy sites, it doesn't help your cause. and your citation for the accident victim specifically says this was corrected as it was incorrectly listed as covid.
@gromit: "Then genius please explain what was causing all the deaths if it wasn't Covid as many other death causes were down during covid like suicide and flu etc."
Well that's an own-goal if I ever saw one. And now that you mention it, flu deaths were not just down they were almost non-existent. Gee, I wonder if a lot of those covid deaths were actually flu deaths? It really doesn't take a genius, just 2 functioning brains cells should be enough. Also, suicide deaths during the lockdown phase actually went up, it was making main stream news for a long time.
It took me about 2 weeks to figure it out and my prediction at the time was that in 2020 nobody would be seeing people dying or getting sick in any greater numbers than usual IRL, I was right. I also said that after the injections came out we would see an increase in those things and it will be blamed on 'variants' or something else. I was a little bit wrong on that one as they blaming it on ANYTHING else (as well as new variants). The numbers keep ramping so I don't think we've seen the worst of it yet.
"if you are going to site stuff you might want to exclude the conspiracy sites"
You can limit your world to make it as safe and tiny as you like, I prefer to look at all the info I can get a see which of it makes more sense.
"and your citation for the accident victim specifically says this was corrected as it was incorrectly listed as covid."
Yes, I SAID THAT TOO!
You can limit your world to make it as safe and tiny as you like, I prefer to look at all the info I can get a see which of it makes more sense.
from the sites you listed I don't think you do look at all the info lol, you search for the info you agree with.
@gromit: Nope, I read as much info as I can get from both sides and simply pass on that which seems more credible.
But whatever, I don't think I've got anything else to add to this thread.
@EightImmortals: Is this Ozbargain or US Bargain? You're so deep in the rabbit hole you think you're living in the US.
Too many woke American messing our world up anyways.
I guess it is ironic that covid deniers and vaccine avoiders were more likely to die.
According to a study conducted by the Commonwealth Fund, the COVID-19 vaccine program in the US is estimated to have prevented 2.2 million deaths, 17 million hospitalizations, and 66.1 million additional infections through March 2022 ⁵. Another source states that vaccines prevented up to 140,000 COVID-19 deaths in the US ⁴.
It is important to note that the effectiveness of vaccines has decreased over time, and boosters have become crucial in protecting against severe COVID-19 and death, especially for older adults ¹. However, vaccines are still effective in reducing the severity of the disease and preventing hospitalization and death ⁴.
I hope this information helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Source: Conversation with Bing, 02/10/2023
(1) COVID vaccine program prevented millions of US deaths, study finds. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-vaccine-campaign-prev….
(2) Vaccines prevented up to 140,000 COVID-19 deaths in U.S.. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/vaccine….
(3) Rising COVID Deaths Highlight Barriers to Boosters: Cost and Misinformation Need to Be Addressed. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/rising-covid-deaths-h….
(4) Can COVID Vaccines Increase The Risk Of Heart Attack? Study Offers Answers. https://www.onlymyhealth.com/can-covid-vaccines-increase-the….
(5) COVID, RSV and flu shots: What do I need to know about the latest fall vaccines?. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/covid-rsv-and-flu-sho….@HangryCakeStore: The COVID-19 pandemic has had a significant impact on India, with the country experiencing one of the highest numbers of cases and deaths worldwide. According to a BBC News report, India has officially recorded more than 500,000 deaths due to COVID-19 as of December 2021 ⁶. However, the actual number of deaths may be much higher, as some estimates suggest that the true death toll could be nearly 10 times higher than the official count ⁶.
It is difficult to provide an exact death rate for India during the pandemic because it depends on various factors such as population size, demographics, and testing rates. However, according to a CGDev report, India's all-cause excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic was estimated to be between 3.4 million and 4.9 million ⁵.
I hope this information helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Source: Conversation with Bing, 02/10/2023
(1) Why India's real Covid toll may never be known - BBC News. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-60981318.
(2) Abhishek Anand, Justin Sandefur, and Arvind Subramanian. https://cgdev.org/sites/default/files/three-new-estimates-in….
(3) India reports 40 fresh Covid cases, active caseload at 456. https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/india-reports-40-fres….
(4) Covid-associated sepsis was more common, deadlier than thought: Study. https://www.nationalheraldindia.com/health/covid-associated-….
(5) ‘Covid-19 vaccines reduced mortality’. https://www.livemint.com/news/india/patients-receiving-covid….
(6) COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_….@HangryCakeStore: Frankly with India we have little idea where they ended up. However, at one time, they did have mass funeral pyres to deal with victims.
@try2bhelpful: Even the US was overwhelmed. Hospital morgues and mortuaries were so full of extra bodies that refrigerated trucks would line the streets and the bodies packed into them. And a lot of countries, including India, satellite photography revealed mass graves whilst their governments were "officially" claiming few deaths.
@AustriaBargain: In fact some of the trucks weren’t refrigerated, there was bodily fluids leaking from them. The hospital systems were overwhelmed in multiple countries. In the UK, initially, they only included stats for people who made it to hospitals so the casualties in Aged Care homes weren’t being included.
According to a study conducted by the Commonwealth Fund, the COVID-19 vaccine program in the US is estimated to have prevented 2.2 million deaths, 17 million hospitalizations, and 66.1 million additional infections through March 2022 ⁵. Another source states that vaccines prevented up to 140,000 COVID-19 deaths in the US ⁴.
Best stats ever
According to a study conducted by the Commonwealth Fund, the COVID-19 vaccine program in the US is estimated to have prevented 2.2 million deaths, 17 million hospitalizations, and 66.1 million additional infections through March 2022 ⁵. Another source states that vaccines prevented up to 140,000 COVID-19 deaths in the US ⁴.
So one study estimated c19 deaths were reduced by 2.2 million, and another by 140k? Given the massive delta (93.64% absolute difference), something tells me that that these 'studies' are mere guesswork.
Congrats on having the balls to tell them to stick their untested shite up their arse.
I reckon @Motek Benzona is female, you know, just like @jv is
I got close to caving for a trip overseas but bought a ticket on an airline that did not practise segregation and met others at the destination instead
The restrictions here..all that qr bollocks was very easy to bypass so that was not enough for me to cave either.
Honesty..at the start i was ready to have it but it was pretty clear pretty quickly something was not quite right.
So glad i stood firm.
@kajke
Male or female my username really does check out
I had two doses of AstraZeneca. After the second one I had an adverse reaction that it took 11 months to recover from. But its an adverse reaction that is not unique to COVID vaccines, but something that is associated with vaccines generally. Guillain Barre Syndrome (GBS). There are a lot of people in Australia who have or have had GBS entirely unrelated to the COVID vaccine. GBS was the second most common adverse reaction to the AZ vaccine after cardiomyopathy.
I have a medical history of auto-immune problems. This time my immune system attacked the sheath around the nerves. Fortunately I only had a relatively mild case of it. I could still walk, if slowly. And had difficulty with eating utensils, and writing, and taps. People who have a severe case end up in hospital on a respirator because they can't breathe by themselves. Out of the 14 million AstraZeneca doses given to people, 173 of them in Australia got full-blown GBS. People with less than severe cases simply weren't counted in the official statistics.
Am I going to have any more COVID vaccinations after that, even if some new variant arrives? No. I now can't risk having any more vaccinations for anything for the rest of my life in case the GBS is re-triggered.