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Looks like a good price with free shipping worldwide. Quite a lot fancy bikes on sale from the website.
Bianchi Sprint 2024 - Shimano 105 12sp €1881.15 (A$3086.53) Delivered + Import Duty + GST @ Bike Room, Italy
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Lmomoelf on 16/12/2023 - 10:42 bike-room.com (3418 clicks)
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No 5% tarrif but you still have GST + admin/processing fees for this bike.
When you add the extras, for something with a Shimano 105 group set it hardly seems worth it. Struggling to see this as particularly special
All groupsets are more expensive now. You could get 11sp ultegra groupet for around $660 back in the day but 105 12sp is more than double that now and might even function better than the older ultegra. The last 105 deal from wiggle/CRC was
If you ask for a deal from a LBS, they might be able to get close. This deal is only about 18% discount off AU RRP if you factor in GST and fees.@8azinga: 12 speed really isn't worth it.
It's harder to index and keep running smoothly, you rarely notice mid gear changes, all the parts are double the price or more.
Unless you are getting Di2 or transmission 12 speed is not worth it.
11 speed is and 95% as good at 50-60% the cost.If you aren't climbing massive hills I'd even go 2x10 because the parts are so cheap and interchangeable you can basically build a full groupset for $300-500 depending on what parts you decide are worth the extra spend.
You mean Di2 electric shifting? If not, this is for people who actually want to ride a bike themselves
How about you re-read what I said. IF NOT, ergo if they mean an electric bike.
why not get an electric motor assisted gym?
In a nutshell. Also less maintenance and ongoing cost.
Why not pay someone to go to the gym for you?
too far mate
I would jump at the chance of getting paid to go to the gym…
Because serious riders don't want electric bikes?
Electric bikes are great for commuting and people who would otherwise never be able to ride but if you can ride a normal bike, why bother with one?To get around faster with less effort.
But if your actual purpose is to go riding because you like riding, then yeah an ebike is pointless
Don't the legal electric bikes only have pedal assist up to 25kmph?
This is a speed most cyclists effortlessly cruise at possibly for hundreds of km if they've been training consistently for a while. It also doesn't gas you like running does so…
Pros of non-electric bike:
No range anxiety
Take advantage of dominos coupon codes guilt free
Easy to handle the bike, carry upstairs, etc
Turn the clock back on your heart ageCons of non-electric bike:
Legs eventually stop fitting into OTR suits
No hill-assist@Assburg: Sadly, at 41
I have range anxiety, the body just gives in after 100km.
Domino's coupon codes definitely come with guilt.
Could be because you just had leg day at the gym, went basketball, soccer or some other sport and are already smashed from that, you’re carrying groceries or other crap that is far more comfortable with a rear rack, it’s raining so it’s shit weather for the nice road bike so you take the commuter e-bike anyway. E-bikes aren’t a ‘must have’ but they do offer a fair bit of utility.
Also the best number of bikes is one more than you already have
I love rounding up the electric bikes on my non electric racer. If they are legal they are limited to 26kph which isn't difficult to exceed.
Can you hold 26 kph up a 10-15% incline?
Genuine question, can an ebike do the ridiculous 60kmph downhill speeds that inevitably follow a big hill climb? I figure there's not that much drag or any built in speed restriction, I've just not seen it.
@Assburg: Correct, only thing that turns off is the electric assist above that speed. The geometry of the e-bikes would usually be pretty sketchy down that sort of decline though I reckon
@Assburg: It isnt that big of a climb if the downhill only gets you to 60kph but yes, unassisted speed is unlimited. Some cheaper ebikes have a little drag in the system so may be slightly slower but some will be negligible.
If you were to do a test to go up a steep hill and back down on similar types of bikes, ebike would win, maybe by even more than the difference from going uphill because the ebike rider could also be fresher so has more in reserve to push harder downhill.@8azinga: I had a giant fork snap under hard braking in Taiwan and miraculously walked away from it but a little traumatised. I just don't have it in me to push hard downhill, though I commend your bravery nonetheless.
@Assburg: Yikes, you were lucky. Friend's husband hit a crack on a foot/bikepath and went a over t instantly. Elbow broken, severe concussion, cuts to face, helmet destroyed. He had no time to react. Little under a week in hospital. Hasn't re-saddled yet, but will eventually.
majority of regular cyclists will be faster on this bike than a LEGAL electric. 25km/h speed cap really hurts as being a heavier bike you end up 'cruising' slower.
Me looking at the price and my bank account balance
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It's off to work I go
It's a nice looking bike, I'm still used to pre Covid pricing, you would be close to getting an ultegra groupset for that price.
I need that 2% gain on the hills.Yes pretty crazy to pay that price now for 105.
U pay for the Bianchi Badge n Celeste colour :)
Indeed. An ultegra Bianchi aria was ~$3600 in early 2020.
Yep I got a fully carbon Avanti Corsa DR early 2020 with Dura Ace groupset and DT Swiss rims for not much more at $4500. No bargains like that any more
Holy shit that would be incredible! Congrats on scoring that epic deal I guess.
Yeah… congratulations very nice
Assume that was mechanical Dura Ace.
You can get a full carbon bike with the latest Ultegra Di2 for under $4k.
Yes mechanical Dura Ace however the DT Swiss rims alone are $4k+
@prhino: I'm talking recommended retail but they came with the 62mm DT Swiss ARC 1100 Dicut rims which are US $2999
https://www.dtswiss.com/en/wheels/wheels-road/aero/arc-1100-…
https://ccache.cc/products/dt-swiss-arc1100-dicut-50-carbon-…
@4foxache: So the entire wheelset (not just rims) retails for less than $4k.
Not saying it's a bad deal, but that's very different.to the rims being worth more than $4k.
You can still get new Ultegra builds for less than $3k. This Bianchi isn't a deal in my opinion.
Hmm…goes great with my Uniqlo Bianchi T
But this is pre-owned??
3 grand and no mudguards? Pfffttt.
And no basket on the front.
lack of mud guards is something i don’t like about bikes …it’s cheap to put on in factory, expensive to buy later, they should just add them at the factory band people can take off in summer if they want ….when i was a kid all bikes had mudguards …
By the looks of it, quite an aggressive geometry.
Only consider if you can work on a bike, typical LBS is not going to do anything for free if you haven't got the bike from them.
So assembly, adjustments, tunning, or any warranty issues to swap out components, you are on your own.
Merida is di2, bianchi is mechanical.
Ah yes, I just assumed when it said 105 12 speed that it was electronic, forgetting there is a mechanical version. In that case the Merida is indeed a much better value option.
Having owned 2 different 12 speed groupsets now I would 100% recommend Di2 or equivalent.
You really need the accuracy and reliability of digital shifting with 12 speed over time.
Unless you are keen to constantly index yourself.
@Telios: I just made the move to electronic shifting* and couldn't go back to mechanical on my road bike.
Updated from a 2012 road bike with rim brakes, quick release, tubes to a 2023 road bike with disk brakes, thru-axles, tubeless.
@prhino: Yup I'm in the same boat.
Onto disc/thru axle/tubeless now and likely electronic shifting for the gravel bike next year.
The only thing I'm tempted to save for more is the new pinion eshift internal gearboxes.
But they need a special frame so not an upgrade.
Great looking bike and pretty well priced for di2 groupset. Pretty sure the Bianchi isn't Di2 either, so this is a better bang for buck option
Good price, thanks, will ask if they do shipping to Perth.
Not not sure if 99bikes is in WA but you can give them a call to price match. Main issue is stock availability, I have one on preorder expected in Mar/Apr !
I'm very happy with my Scultura 6000 (105 Di2) - picked one up for $2750 from 99 Bikes a few months ago in combination with this deal:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/800798
I've made a number of upgrades (carbon wheels, power meter, integrated bar/stem, tubeless tyres) but the base price is good enough just for the frame and groupset. The white is a nice pearlescent paint as well.
You definitely get an OzBargain gold elephant stamp for that
Great price!!! But what's the price without the giftcard? $3235?
It was $3198. If you are interested, I suggest you try calling 99 bikes to see if they can do a similar price or at the very least price match from bikezone.
How do you find the geometry of the Scultura 6000?
Am looking to upgrade, and the value in that Merida is outstanding - but a bit worried it'll be too aggressive (I'm coming from an 'endurance' road frame with more relaxed geometry)…
Thanks! :-)
Look at the Scultura endurance 6000 (which is the bike I went for). Should be able to get it for the same price. The only issue is that if the retailer has no stock, then you have to wait until Mar/Apr.
I like it, but I came from a bike with a very similar geometry (Focus Izalco Max) and have pretty much always had bikes with a similar all-round racer style geometry. Given how difficult it is to adjust once you add fully integrated cabling into a picture, I'd probably see if you can try a different bike (or test one) with a similar geometry first - the geometry is pretty similar to most race style bikes.
As another poster has said, the Scultura Endurance is worth a look as well if you can get one at the right price.
Now that's a good deal.
Thanks, bought 4 for the family.
Shouldn't be delivered in the title if there are a few other fees
Where do I put the basket for my baguette and celery? 🥖 🤔
You don't need a basket - put the baguette and celery in your belly.
Baguette goes into jersey pocket. Do it like a pro.
For that you buy Suzuki Address 110 instead. You will overtake all Bianchi sprint or running or otherwise.
I'm surprised they still do this gearset. I bought it on a new bike over 10 years ago for about 1k. Thought it was on the outer at the time, but just saw it is 40 years old.
Shimano tend to keep the same lineup but the revisions change enough that they are no longer compatible.
10 year old Ultegra is most likely not compatible with 2023 Ultegra.
Also, a 10 year old 105 groupset is going to be equivalent to a 2023 Claris groupset.
Yes and no. The current Claris groupset (R2000, released in 2017) has a similar design to Shimano's first-generation 11-speed products, but the build quality and material choices still reflect that of an entry-level groupset.
10 years ago, 105 was 10 speed, and would have higher quality materials than Claris today. It doesn't have the improved ergonomics or better derailleur design though.
@raisinberry777: Equivalent was the wrong choice of words. The old Claris is going to be heavier, and not have as many gears on the cassette, but will shift as well.
Be a real man. Ride a MTB
Be a real man. Ride a Downhill MTB. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6qGbypYy5U&ab_channel=UCI
Or, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v1RR8vCbnI&ab_channel=ThisI… Nuts.
Ride in the bike lane
Give up mate, why even bother.
Why cant u ride in the bike lane?
What if there are no bike lanes - which is the case most of the time?
@Alejandro: So you're having a whinge about the extremely rare times you encounter large groups of road bikers who might delay you for a minute? There's a reason why some don't ride single file. I'll leave you to work out what that might be.
@Alejandro: No kidding pop. You implied, I inferred, since the vast majority of bike riders I see are already doing what you suggested or are riding on their own anyway, I'm sure we're all salivating at the prospect of more of your pears of wisdom on car and footwear deals.
I'd rather spend a bit more and get something local with Di2.
Yeah, I agree, I'll go to 99bikes to see how much for a Merida Scultura 6000.
Wont customs charge GST and maybe other fees when it arrives in AUS?