2024 Polestar 2 Vs Tesla Model Y

I'm specifically looking at these two vehicles.
Has anyone been in the same predicament? Which did you choose?
Before anyone starts recommending other vehicles, i'm open to any other RWD/AWD EV with a ground clearance of at least 6 inches (steep driveway…).

Thoughts are:

Tesla Model Y - base model

  • Outdated design
  • Massive boot space
  • Leather interior (edit: Vegan Leather).
  • Poor real-world mileage compared to the Polestar
  • Wireless phone charging is a bonus
  • I hate that everything goes through the screen and that it doesn't have a traditional dash.
  • Has more driving tech features as standard

Polestar 2 - base model

  • Interior is non-leather
  • Boot space is terrible compared to the model Y.
  • Looks better
  • Realistically it has significantly better range than the model Y
  • Has a traditional dash
  • Less advance driving tech as standard

They both have pros and cons in my eyes. Price nowadays is fairly similar.

Comments

  • +1

    Wireless phone charging a buying feature.

    What has happened.

    How much kWasps Bro, sorry I mean "'s on your screen.

    • +4

      I love how triggered people get by EV's haha

      • +3

        Same argument would come through discussing ICE cars. Many people wouldn’t consider wireless charging in their decision to buy a car since you can buy a cradle fairly easily if you really didn’t want to plug in a USB cable

        • And some people have good and modern phones that don't require constant charging/recharging.

  • +10

    Tesla Model Y - base model
    - Outdated design

    Outdated compared to what? Its the current shape MY, and based on the M3 refresh, it'll be very similar shape when the MY is refreshed.

    • Poor real-world mileage compared to the Polestar

    The Polestar also doesn't get the claimed figures either. Just like ICE cars don't get the claimed fuel usage claim either.

    Its not the OEM that makes these figure claims, the car is sent to a gov department and they run a standardise test cycle on the car and they are the ones that give it the range figure. So its not a Tesla making false claims as such, but the test not being true to real life.

    What do you think the MY gets vs the Polestar in real life?

    • I hate that everything goes through the screen and that it doesn't have a traditional dash.

    Have you used it before making this claim? I have no issues at all. Most things are set and forget. Volume can be changed instantly from the screen or steering wheel. Temp instantly from the screen. No different that many other cars that roll the climate into the touch screen.

    Polestar 2 - base model
    - Looks better

    The outside of the Polestar looks great indeed, but the inside is crud with the high console in the front. Very squashed feeling.

    The MY also has a flat floor in the rear which is amazing for middle seat people

    • Realistically it has significantly better range than the model Y

    See above

    Has a traditional dash

    You have this in the wrong spot, all those useless buttons you press once a year, meh. My old Toyota ICE has button climate control. The harsh fact is I don't touch any of the buttons 99% of the time, I leave it on all the time, AC enabled all the time, and let the climate do its thing. The only thing I use in the 10 or so buttons and two dials, is the temp contol knob every now and then.

    Either are great cars, buy what you like!

    • I was just giving my opinion and thoughts. I have positives and negatives for both cars.

      Model Y is an outdated design in my opinion.

      The Polestar does not get its claimed figures, no. But based on a bunch of videos i've watched, the Model Y will get between 300-350km, the new 2024 Polestar will get between 450-480km. Both below their claimed figures.

      Yes I have driven a Tesla Model 3 before and I found it distracting to have to navigate through a screen whilst driving.
      I also didnt like that you needed to move your head to check the speed that you're doing - especially when Teslas have so much power, it's quite easy to speed.

      The tech in the Tesla seems better, the Tesla also has a whole lot more space - as you've pointed out, it has a flat floor which is certainly a benefit.

      • +3

        I was just giving my opinion and thoughts

        Same

        Model Y is an outdated design in my opinion.

        As I said, to what car, but if you just don't like the look. So say that. Its not the prettiest car, as I said the Polestar looks great on the outside. But the MY is shaped like that for a reason and it won't be making crazy changes to the looks.

        The Polestar does not get its claimed figures, no. But based on a bunch of videos i've watched, the Model Y will get between 300-350km, the new 2024 Polestar will get between 450-480km. Both below their claimed figures.

        Are comparing the base models? Base model Polestar has a 69kw pack compared to the others with a 82kw pack.

        and I found it distracting to have to navigate through a screen whilst driving.

        What are you needing to do while driving?

        I also didnt like that you needed to move your head to check the speed that you're doing - especially when Teslas have so much power, it's quite easy to speed.

        Move your eyes like you do now. Instead of down, move them to the side. It only takes a couple of drives to adjust.

        • +3

          Its not the prettiest car

          Understatement of the year. I can't get over how bad they look. It's like they have no other ideas, so the only thing they could come up with was Model 3: Beluga Whale Edition.

          • +2

            @jorf:

            Understatement of the year

            LOL I think their are uglier cars on the road myself, but sure YMMV.

            It's like they have no other ideas, so the only thing they could come up with was Model 3

            Tell me you don't understand aerodynamics without telling me.

            The M3/MY shape isn't going to change much over the coming years as we have seen with the recent M3 refresh, its a low drag design = less power usage.

            There is a reason the M3 uses 130w/km and the Volvo uses 220w/km.

            • @JimmyF: I'm sure someone with talent could have made something that actually looks good and still be aerodynamic. I'd happily sacrifice some range so that I didn't have to poke my eyes out whenever I looked at my car.

              • @jorf: whispers: there are other EVs that are very efficient and different (better?) design to a Tesla.

                • @Euphemistic:

                  there are other EVs that are very efficient and different (better?) design to a Tesla

                  Oh there is? Love to see these more 'efficient' EVs to Tesla…..

                  • @JimmyF: I didn’t say more efficient, just very efficient.

                    • @Euphemistic: LOL ok then, name some that come close then.

                      • -3

                        @JimmyF: https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/top-10-most-efficient-ele…

                        I didn’t read it, only a scan. Tesla wasn’t no1. Model y was 7. But then, you’re obviously a fan so it’ll be a false article anyway.

                        • @Euphemistic:

                          I didn’t read it,

                          LOL Why not?

                          But then, you’re obviously a fan so it’ll be a false article anyway.

                          LOL But you haven't even bother to read it?

                          Whoever was driving that M3 must have been driving it like they stole it. My MYLR has a average of 15-16k/100kms, the same as they claim the M3 did. M3 are normally around 13kw/100km.

                          • -3

                            @JimmyF: JimmyF: Tesla is best
                            Euph: here’s a link saying otherwise, but you’ll likely call it false
                            JimmyF: that’s false, here’s my anecdotes.

                            OK dude.

                            • -1

                              @Euphemistic:

                              OK dude.

                              LOL not at all. I made a comment that M3 usage was pretty high compared to the normal. So lets play your game, ok so here is article that says otherwise

                              https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/comparisons/2023-tesla-m…

                              In testing, both cars came close to matching their claimed numbers. The Ioniq 6 returned 14.5kWh/100km over 221km of driving, and the Model 3 13.6kWh/100km. This gives real-world ranges of 530km and 426km respectively – both about 13.5 per cent shy of WLTP.

                              Which is more inline with what Model 3 owners see. As I said, if you're getting 15kWh/100km or more in a Model 3, you're certainly driving like you stole it!

              • +1

                @jorf:

                I'd happily sacrifice some range so that I didn't have to poke my eyes out whenever I looked at my car.

                Then buy any other EV then. As I said, there is a reason the Volco is over 22kw/100kms while the Model 4 uses 13kw/100kms.

      • +1

        Model Y is likely to get a refreshed design this year along the lines of the Model 3 redesign that’s just some out in Australia. Depends on how long you want to wait. Also note the Volvo XC30 is coming in March, though waiting lists no doubt apply there.

        The constant updates to the software is what would sway me to the Tesla over the Polestar.

      • Outdated might be a benefit, because it still has an indicator stalk. The refreshed Model Y will probably just have buttons.

        • probably just have buttons

          Gross.

      • Also keep in mind some seemingly “honest”, opinions can be from people with (hidden motives

        And the reason why driving range isn’t what is claimed, is because -contrary to some lies - some car companies fudge the figures a little.
        https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-…

    • Here is a professional review comparing both:

      https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/polestar/2

      And another review on the Polestar here:

      https://www.drive.com.au/reviews/2024-polestar-2-long-range-…

      • -3

        Here is a professional review comparing both:
        https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/polestar/2

        LOL Top Gear and professional review should never be used in the same sentence! Wasn't Top Gears defence when Tesla sued them for a misleading review, that the show is for comedy and not facts!

  • +1

    Leather interior

    I thought Tesla moved to a vinyl pleather vegan “leather” interior?

    • +1

      Yep its vegan 'leather'. Honestly I dislike most leather in cars as its just fake leather, aka fancy vinyl. Even my 10 year old Camry has vinyl leather. Give me some good plush cloth seats any day, they wear much better!

      • can anyone comment what the imitation leather is like with glass roof in australia? find even real leather to be uncomfortable throughout most of the yr

        • +4

          can anyone comment what the imitation leather is like with glass roof in australia? find even real leather to be uncomfortable throughout most of the yr

          They are the same, as in bloody hot if left in the sun!

          The good thing is the Telsa has remote cabin cooling, so you can cool the car down before you get back :)

          Plus cabin overheat protection, so it cools itself down if it gets too hot.

  • +5

    I was comparing the Tesla Model 3 and the Polestar 2 when I was looking in 2022, and everything was very similar price wise… except you had to add various "packs" at $5k each to get the Polestar to the same specification. I went with the Model 3 for that reason, as well as I prefer the tech-oriented design.

    I sat in a Polestar recently and found it very cramped internally, but that could just be because I'm used to the Model 3.

    I use https://ev-database.org for good "real range" numbers. I pay attention to the "Highway - Mild Weather" number (as it's the one most of us in Australia care about). It lists 385 km for my Model 3, and I've been able to do single legs of about 405 km before so it's a bit conservative - but you want it to be. Anyway, it lists 325 km for the Model Y and 375 km for the Polestar 2 (assuming base model of each) if you want some real world numbers.

    The other advantage of the Tesla is due to the number that they've sold, there is a huge range of third party accessories add-ons. e.g. you can get third party dash displays.

    I assume Polestar has an app available in Australia - but double check. Lots of other manufacturers offer one in other countries, but not Australia. You'll find it a must have, once you have a car with one.

    • +2

      I sat in a Polestar recently and found it very cramped internally, but that could just be because I'm used to the Model 3.

      That center console is crazy large and tall! Plus being built on a ICE platform you have the transmission tunnel hump in the back for no reason at all.

      Anyway, it lists 325 km for the Model Y and 375 km for the Polestar 2 (assuming base model of each) if you want some real world numbers.

      Agree, these would be about right for the base models

      I assume Polestar has an app available in Australia

      It does.

      • -1

        you have the transmission tunnel hump in the back for no reason at all

        They put batteries in it I believe.

  • +6

    The only advantage of owning a Tesla is their technology and charging infrastructure. The superchargers are very reliable and well placed.

    However, they are slowly opening up chargers and diminish the competitive advantage.

    • +2

      Recharge network is a big selling point

  • Tesla con: becoming a Tesla owner.

  • Honestly there’s not much between them. Test drive and make up your own mind.

    Personally I won’t buy a car if it don’t like the looks. Which incidentally also rules out the model Y for me. Sure it kinda looks all swoopy and futuristic but it’s also quite bland in design. There’s nothing that draws my eye to a cool design feature. I also hate that its all touchscreen and menus and doesn’t have a dash in front of the driver.

  • +5

    Model Y owner here, the seat is not real leather. I personally don't like it. Maybe it's just me, but it felt very hot.

    In case you are going to go with Model Y, I'd suggest wait until late this year for the planned facelift that will include ventilated seat which will somehow be a better experience.

    I won't bore you with the positives about the tesla because I'm sure everyone has told you about all the great things and it's easy to find online (e.g. youtube).

    A few cons about the Tesla:

    • The glass roof has made the cabin temperature generally warmer especially in summer. So you really need to crank your A/C up to feel comfortable
    • This is probably just something subjective. To open your glovebox, you have to do it through the touchscreen, voice command or you remap the shortcut key to your steering wheel button.
    • If you charge your tesla using a generic charger, there is no way to set a complicated set of charging schedule e.g. 23:00 - 06:00 (midnight off-peak rate) and 09:00-15:00 (super off-peak rate). Even the tesla wall connector can only do one schedule which I left it as 23:00 - 06:00. The only way to workaround it is to use 3rd party software called ChargeHQ
    • (Not that I have confirmed, but) I heard that the A/C when set to "recycle" the cabin air, the intake is located under front seats. If you have children at the back that throw stuff (e.g. small food snacks), there's a chance it might get into the A/C pipe. I heard there's an aftermarket plastic filter to avoid this.
    • Tesla has removed their ultrasonic and radar sensor. How much would that affect their TACC is something I do not know.
    • There is no front camera at the bumper, you cannot get 360 degree view to see whether your front bumper is about to hit something when doing front-parking. The display would tell you how close you are to the front wall, but I haven't tested this if in front of you is a car with a towbar

    That being said, I'm still a happy Model Y owner, was just slightly disappointed about the minor things mentioned above.

    • +1
      • The glass roof has made the cabin temperature generally warmer especially in summer. So you really need to crank your A/C up to feel comfortable

      Glass roof is a feature. If you find it hot, there are covers to fix the heat issues. They work well. I've used it on a few long drives on 40+ days to reduce the AC load. But don't have them installed normally.

      • This is probably just something subjective. To open your glovebox, you have to do it through the touchscreen, voice command or you remap the shortcut key to your steering wheel button.

      Its a pro and con, you can lock your HDD away behind a pin so it isn't easily stolen. I find that glovebox small, so I put things I don't use very often in there. Its two taps on the screen to open when I need to. Car -> glovebox.

      Many other storage areas to use instead for day to day stuff.

      If you charge your tesla using a generic charger, there is no way to set a complicated set of charging schedule

      Most EVs I've seen are like this, no complex schedule. Its up to the charger to have the schedule built in or use a 3rd party app to control them.

      • (Not that I have confirmed, but) I heard that the A/C when set to "recycle" the cabin air, the intake is located under front seats. If you have children at the back that throw stuff (e.g. small food snacks), there's a chance it might get into the A/C pipe. I heard there's an aftermarket plastic filter to avoid this.

      They are vents for air to come out of, not in. Yes they are semi open and crap can get in them. Aliexpress has covers for a few dollars each if you have kids. But agree, should be a standard thing.

      • Tesla has removed their ultrasonic and radar sensor. How much would that affect their TACC is something I do not know.

      Only on the refreshed M3. The MY still has them.

      • There is no front camera at the bumper, you cannot get 360 degree view to see whether your front bumper is about to hit something when doing front-parking. The display would tell you how close you are to the front wall, but I haven't tested this if in front of you is a car with a towbar

      Cars without the ultrasonic sensors get some 3D view these days, or will shortly if you haven't got it.

      That being said, I'm still a happy Model Y owner, was just slightly disappointed about the minor things mentioned above.

      No car is prefect, but overall its a good car.

  • +6

    I drove a Polestar 2 last year for a few days. A fine vehicle, but I just couldn't get over how cramped it was on the inside. The high console between the driver and passenger is weird. I kept elbowing my drink. It's a large vehicle but feels oddly small.

    • +1

      Good feedback, I plan on driving one tomorrow - keen to give it a whirl and see how it is. Definitely seen similar feedback online.

    • +1

      It's not a large vehicle. At 4600mm long it's shorter than a Mazda 3, i30, Civic or Impreza sedan.

      The high console is cool. Problem is they don't make good use of the space in it. Single cupholder. Tiny little side pockets.

      • It's 4cm narrower than an old Holden Commodore, yet it feels so much smaller than that. When I got back into my i30 after driving the Polestar 2 for a few days the i30 felt much larger on the inside despite being a small vehicle.

        My i30 hatch is 4.3m long.

      • The high console is cool

        Said no one ever…..

  • +1

    Here a honest review on the Polestar.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3P32TyLMMM

    Honestly buy which one you like best!

    • I wondered if I’d seen the linked video - yup. I thought if it first as an honest review - but it’s also the only polestar review I’ve seen.

    • Lol, now he reckons 20 k extra for the better looks, no adaptive cruise, no blind spot no lane centering,
      Better off in a Volkswagen….

  • +1

    One other strange thing about the Polestar 2, when I tried it in February 2023 it was wildly optimistic on charge times. A normal power point delivers 2kW, charging the car at 12km/hr, yet the car would tell me the battery would be full within 12 hours. A simple calculation would show that's completely wrong. When I went out 12 hours later the charge time to full would now be 8 hours, and so on.

    Probably a software issue fixed long ago, but it was odd.

  • The Kia EV6/Hyundai IONIQ 5 twins both have ground clearance just over 150mm.

    Their party trick is very fast charging however they have some other things going for them too.

  • +1

    What's up with using 'Vegan' to describe 'aritificial' leather?

    I'd prefer an 'alcantara' option any day of the week..

    • What's up with using 'Vegan' to describe 'aritificial' leather?

      Sounds better…. Vegan as in no animals hurt to make it, sounds so much nicer than calling it artificial leather, fake leather, pleather, or what it really is at the end of the day fancy soft vinyl!

  • +2

    I test drove a polestar 2 recently, probably my least favourite ev given how expensive it is. (Haven't driven a recent Tesla).

    The interior design imo is stupid, acres of plastic, one cupholder or you lose your tiny bin. It could be a config thing, but the point of having a driver side screen should be to show useful driving things, like your speed or distance to automatic cruise control breaking engagement, but it puts its speed in the bottom left corner in all modes except one which basically disabled everything on the screen and I couldnt work out how to put anything else useful on that screen. Do you actually want a giant map of the road with no lane information on your driver screen, if so, the polestar 2 is for you.

    Another weird thing, which I think is shared with volvo ev's is the absolutely bizarre Speedo pedal calibration, which is stiff and immensely unresponsive. This makes driving even the dual motor feel slow and unresponsive compared to basically any other car ever. Id almost describe the feeling like turbo lag but I may be alone on this.

    Also is fairly stiff and uncomfortable in general but I think we drove ones with the performance pack which makes everything worse but you get yellow seat belts for $5k

    If I recall, it's also objectively worse spec wise in most ways to a byd seal, which is something like $30k cheaper.

    I have no idea what the model y is like, but the polestar 2 seems like a poor choice.

    • We test drove P2, I liked the exterior but the interior was meh I expected much better for the $$$.
      I am waiting to see what the VW ev's are like but leaning towards a MY atm.

  • +6

    I suggest considering the Tesla Model Y, the best-selling car in Australia.

    • Definitely going to check one out.

  • +2

    Was in a similar situation a couple of months ago, but really needed something that could carry some gear and the Polestar had far less capacity in the luggage area. Also, the base Polestar was pretty base and every option added up.
    Living with the Tesla for a month or so we really like the uncluttered dash and the speed indicator is fine - took about 10 min to get used to it.
    The luggage area is really large and well designed. It ate a full sized bathroom vanity the other day, and then swallowed a weeks grocery shopping for afters. And still wasn’t full. 😁
    It ain’t the prettiest car I’ve ever had, but it has a certain look that is growing on me. Maybe wait until the update is released and see it in the flesh. The new M3 looks pretty good imo, so maybe they will make the Y prettier.
    Actually really happy with the car, no problems at all with it and it manages to be efficient but also fun to drive. And is so cheap to run with home charging.

    • +1

      TBH I think if the Model Y could confidently do 400-450km I would go that everyday of the week.. The +$13k price difference to get this amount of range in the Model Y is a lot…

      I regularly do 320-350k round-trips which is essentially a full charge in the Model Y, so it'd need a top-up, which is annoying for how often I would do it.
      If I didn't regularly do these trips i'd go the Model Y without a doubt - the storage capacity is very appealing.

      • Yes, it’s a bit of a dilemma atm and unless you can find a convenient lunch time top up it just adds another bit of time to your schedule. Mind you, if there are some Superchargers on your route it could be as easy as doing the odd bit of book work, calls etc for 10 to 15 min while you top up. The front seat of the Y is not a bad spot to be.
        Apart from that there just isn’t a simple longer range option for you yet. Solid state batteries etc will fix this ‘at some point’…🤷‍♂️

        Despite what some say, the EV solution is not yet there for everyone……
        Funny though, with my MY now, I would put up with some inconvenience to have the advantages of the EV every day. I will possibly have to buy an ICE 4wd Ute for remote travel in a couple of years, but would never go backwards to a non EV for a city car.

  • In the exact same boat OP! looks like Polestar My 24 polestar has 360 camera, blindspot monitoring and better warranty too. Still trying to decide between the two.

    • +3

      Just drove the Polestar this evening.

      Pros:
      Perfect size for me personally, nice and small. Boot space was larger than I expected but certainly not a Model Y size.
      Actually does have decent range. Consumption for my extended hire was 15.3kw/100km over 64km.
      Love the simplicity of the onboard system.
      Love the dash…. Probably my favourite part. I dont know if the Model Y has this but it reads all speed signs and displays the current speed limit on the dash, found it useful.
      Does get up my brutal driveway with ease (yay).
      Fun to drive, plenty of power.

      Cons:
      The interior is terrible quality.. easy to skuff, also easy to clean. But just not good quality in comparison to what I know the Tesla is like.
      Frunk is operated like a normal bonnet.. so its not a highly accessible location.. more designed for things you dont touch often.

      Im keen as mustard to try the Model Y now. I remember being frustrated by the lack of dash. But I also found the interior of the Polestar a bit frustrating.. it was very.. hard..

      The Polestar is nowhere near as technologically advanced as the Tesla, im not super phased by it, what it does have does well. The 360’ camera is ok, not great compared to some others i’ve seen, but i did find the whole reversing system and sensors worked well.

      • +1

        Thanks for the update, I test drove the polestar 2 and agree with your points above. Pity the tesla doesn't have a front cam and head up display/dash. However, can't go pass the interior space in the Model Y. The sound system in the base model Y sounds excellent too.

        • +1

          At this point the main sticking point for me is the real world range.. tempted to just wait for them to release a Model Y with a battery that's like 10% bigger..

  • Tesla charging network great. Even though they are opening up, there is usually some but not all available for non-Tesla. Sometimes only one or two are non-Tesla out of 6 or 8. Definitely drive them both. A tip for looks: black out the wheels. Very cheap and makes your Tesla look much sportier than silver colour. And dont both have pano rooves, in terms of heat coming in? Also, Australia like to be amongst first to get updated MY perhaps mid 2024. Likely worth the wait.

  • You get used to the lack of buttons on the dash on the Tesla MY real quick. So much of the traditional features are well automated and looked after. Most drives i really only touch the screen for Spotify and navigation.

  • I've driven both and if I picked between them two, personally, I'd go the Polestar. It just felt like a nicer experience. It was fully optioned though, but so was the Tesla (performance). Personally, I'm going for the new 2024 Kona EV, but not sure of the ground clearance. I feel the Polestar had more of an overhang at the front though if your worried about that. I think the Polestar needs the two packs added and the 2wd long range seems to be good range for the money but from memory it stepped over the reasonable price. $68k for a fully optioned long range kona (now a reasonable size car) wins for me but it is front wheel drive if that puts you off.

  • I'd choose the Polestar. I cant get over how horrible the model Y looks inside and out.

  • Don't agree with OPs views..

    also if you like the polestar, go with it. no point trying to engage people here.

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