It looks like Centre Com is getting rid of all the old high-end cards now.
It's quite attractive if you missed the previous 4080 $1499 deal.
Surcharges: 1.2% Card & PayPal, 2% AmEx.
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Asus TUF Radeon RX 7900 XTX Gaming OC 24GB GDDR6 Graphics Card $1399 Delivered/ C&C + Surcharge @ Centre Com
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Really smoking the nvidia crack pipe there lol.
If these were such flawed cards ppl wouldnt be using them for davinci resolve or AI workloads with rocm the difference being its move from monolithic to tile design takes time to iron out, wait until NV has to do the same. Rdna4 should be a heavily optimized version so AMD can make some money.
Beta tester for what lol?? The things been out for over a year now. Drivers are great and the user interface is way better than nvidias control panel living in 2005.
The 4080 super is a joke and the only good thing is hopefully 7900xtx gets a price cut. It has been lower than this also cheapest was umart at $1350 for the amd reference which is actually higher quality than the aftermarket ones and has usb c for vr.
ML and AI is for linux.
Over $400 cheaper than the 4080s, faster in raster, more memory for textures (which is at least as important as RT), and ray tracing is really only for 1080p - at which resolution the XTX does just fine.
Frankly, if NVidia weren't still trying to screw people over the 4080 super might have been worth a punt - but it would have had to be US$8xx not US$999; and in Oz they have put the price even further up at $1870, which is insane.
Raytracing is only for 1080p? Sounds like cope for the fact that these cards still lack when it comes to RT performance.
@chepsk8: The unfortunate reality is that even with NVidia, the gap in FPS between raster and raytrace is up to a 30-50% loss in performance. With most games that are pushing the bounds anyway, that loss in performance is enough at 4K to push the game into the unplayable-I'm-only-here-for-the-pretties - unless you have a 4090.
So, you end up rendering at 1080 or 1440 and upscaling to 4K - which you can do with an AMD board well enough anyway.
Now, maybe in a generation or two, you will be able to sustain 4K and RT at the same time without sacrificing playable FPS or upscaling, but my guess is games vendors will eat the extra performance in other ways (cough, path tracing).
The key question is have you ever seen a game that absolutely NEEDS ray tracing? Where it is an intrinsic part of the game? I'd say at present game mechanics haven't progressed in decades, and as far as pretty graphics is concerned, texture memory trumps raytracing.
Unrelated to this deal, but what's with retailers listing the 4080s for more $ than the 4080 in Aus?
NVIDIA set the MSRP of the 4080 Super to be $1870 in Australia. Just shafting us as usual
Crazy hey.
Are these an overkill for a PC build that will only be used to run iRacing sim games?
Will you run triple screens or a VR headset in the future?
Triple screens
It will do it no worries, but not really overkill as big races with maxed settings can make anything struggle somewhat depending on track etc. Iracing does prefer Nvidia cards though for triples as it can use SMP.
I race fairly often in AC, ACC, and iRacing using a 7900 XTX, and it runs just fine.
I've tried VR with no real issues, it's got enough horsepower for it, though the drivers still need some improvement on the VR side.
Triple screen setup is a lot easier than NVIDIA thanks to the fact that the GUI doesn't look like it was developed for WinXP. SMP is only supported in a few titles like iRacing, and doesn't make enough of a difference imho to warrant buying NGREEDIA.Now I daily drive a Neo G9 and have no issues gaming or sim racing, besides the odd crash which is very rare, or the odd artifact on screen (A driver/Neo G9 issue potentially due to GPU core clocks and power management being tuned further in latest drivers)
If the price is significantly cheaper than a 4080, go for it.
Double the ram (future proofing), 9% faster than 4080 Super at 4K in rasterization https://youtu.be/fyUZ1cp4RnI?t=325 for ~$700 less than the 4080 Super.
Picked one up myself 2 weeks ago and been absolutely no issues with 23.12.1 drivers playing Avatar, Darktides, Spiderman, Talos 2 at 1800p high/ultra high driving my 144hz monitor.
Idles at 14 watts, can pull upto 400 but usually 350. Undervolted to 1115 mv and raised power target to 10%, didn't touch any clock speeds, and got a free extra 10% FPS. No crashes.
Bit of coil whine when I first installed it, but seems to have solved itself after a week.
Strongly recommend setting Frame Rate Target in AMD Settings to your monitor's refresh rate. Can Save 50-150 watts.
Also set Tessellation max to 16x. Gave me about 20-30% performance boost in newer titles, with no noticeable drop in visual fidelity.
What PSU do you have? i have a 750W Gold PSU with a AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, i'm wondering if it would be enough or would i have to upgrade the PSU, i have a RTX 3070ti currently
I have a i9 9900K which can pull upto 200 watts with a raised power limit in Bios on boost (default is 120 watts max) and the 7900 XTX can pull 400 watts with my settings (though can be made to go as high as 420 using drivers, or even 550 using a custom bios) (default power draw top is 350 watts).
I have a Corsair HX850 modular and I ran prime95 with AVX and Furmark at the same time to max power draw and didn't see more than 650 watts total.
Edit: Oh and one other change I made in the AMD Settings was to enable "Fast Memory Timing". Gave me an extra few percent FPS, again for free basically vs default settings. Have seen no stability issues.
In games the highest temps I have seen are 70 C, hot spot 86C (normally 63, hot spot 80) (idle fan stopped 40, hot spot 50). That's with a room temp of 24.6 C. Fan noise is negligible/I don't notice it unless I put my ears near my computer case.
In terms of memory, Avatar in a forest area uses 14510 MB, which tells you where games are maybe heading in the next few years. Though that is a outlier today. Most games seem to use around 4-10 GB.
Only downside is performance does drop a bit versus 4080/90 if you max out Global Illumination (i.e enable Ray tracing), but to be honest I often find it hard to even tell the difference between GI/RT ON and traditional lighting and shadows set to ultra settings in games. I'd rather take the extra FPS.
It will work just fine.
I run a 5800x3D and 750w PSU too, and even at 100% load on both CPU and GPU, the total system power sits between 550w and 580w, so well below what the 750w can handle. Realistically running games, total system power sits around 530w.
You bought this monster to play in 2k?
I totally do play games at 4k native when they will give me over 120 fps, but I find a happy place at 1800p or 4K + FSR 2/3 High Quality and every other graphic setting maxed out if I'm not consistently getting over 120fps.
It's hard to tell the difference between 4K with FSR 2/3 High Quality / 1800p with shadows/shaders/textures maxed and native 4K imo, and the former more often pins me to 144 fps, and ends up thereby drawing less power and producing less heat.
I did play Dead Space 2 and Bioshock 2 recently at 8K using AMD super-resolution recently just because I could haha. That was pretty wild. Everything was EXTREMELY crisp.
i prefer 2k and no AI, good old native resolution , no crappy RT - I cant even tell RT is on or not, who the fk looks at reflections in the puddles
My monitor is 165Hz
Set the frame rate to the same? 165?
use rtss and set to 161
Rtss not needed anymore. There's a frame limit option in the AMD settings now.
If only it was the price at launch. Ive lost interest in this gen lol might as well keep waiting for next gen. Its good that the prices are coming down again but an xtx could be bought for this price in june last year so its not that special. $1,299 would have been a little more tempting since it would be the lowest its ever been
Can highly recommend the 7900xtx. Bought the Powercolor hellhound version for $150 more than this deal (in non-OzBargain like fashion!). It’s an absolute beast and runs super cool and quiet in my fractal torrent case.
Can I ask you a few questions about this case? Please and thank you.
Of course, fire away.
I have my sights on either the Compact or the Nano. The latter because I currently have a mITX rig and the former because I am thinking of going bigger. In your experience, does this case have any cons or things that you would change about it? I presume you've got the big one.
@albert0pia: Yes I have the big one. Upgraded from a compact micro atx build. Forgot how much easier it is to work and cable manage in a larger case, but yeah it’s a behemoth.
No cons but more things you may want to be aware of. Don’t buy a PSU with connectors on the side like I did (Corsair shift, don’t know why I did this) the top case rails were in the way of the connectors.
The fans at full throttle are LOUD, but the volume of air that they pump through means that you’ll never need them at max rpm, the case is quiet when the fans are connected to a PWM header and configured correctly.
I can’t think of any issues. Pretty solid!
There’s some good YouTube reviews of the case, I reckon watch some of those.
@stingywog: Just FYI I have a different large case that I am building a PC with atm (Corsair 7000X RGB) The corsair shift PSU is brilliant for this case as it allows easier cable routing. Im looking at a 7900 XTX myself.
Cable management would be really easy if I didn't have 10+ RGB fans.So far.
@Franc-T: Oh I absolutely do not doubt it has its purpose. I bought it by mistake because I thought it was an updated Corsair model and didn’t even check that the side connections would be an issue with my case.
@stingywog: Should easily be able to sell it on ocau or something at least.
Its definitely case specific though (I had a corsair case and put it in already though I havent got my mobo etc yet)
@Franc-T: I ended up going back to PLE and swapping it on the day. Couldn’t wait till the next weekend to finish off the build lol
@stingywog: Makes sense. I am the opposite, i have Case, AIO, Fans, PSU and going to get the rest of the prices in approx a month still deciding what to buy exactly but looking at 7800X3D / 7900 XTX combo at this point.
@Franc-T: Nice, I went with a 7800x3d. If you do, make sure you update the bios of the motherboard with a flash drive prior to booting. My PC wouldn’t boot and I essentially rebuilt it because I thought maybe I’d stuffed something up, but it was the bios. 7800x3d runs hot too, despite a lot of people saying it runs cool because of its low TDP. The 3d cache seems to affect the way it dissipates heat. So good move buying an AIO.
They trying to get rid of them before the 8000 series (half the price for the same 4080 perf) coming in Q4 I guess
I suspected AMD were still releasing new GPUs later this year since only Nvidia said they'd delay it but I can't find any sources of AMD saying that.
Hard to say, AMD need to pivot their GPU market focus tbh. If they know they can’t compete with NV on high end (purely for gaming and no productivity or AI need), they should focus on more general consumer market. But 7000 series mid tier gpu perf just terrible so they are losing it. So launching that late this year might not be a bad idea.
They'll probably have something ready for release by Q4, but they'll probably want all the 6000 series cards dried up first. at least the high-end 6000, for sure.
which retailer "gets rid" of all inventory… 10 months before the successor??? either 8000 series is coming a lot sooner, or this is being done for other reasons (most likely, since only centrecom is rushing for the exits).
Too big for my Meshlicious :|
In the same boat. That rx480 getting awfully long in the tooth
lol I had a rx570 and couldn’t wait. Now on a 6700 non-pro ($387 second hand)
Will my RMX850 Corsair work with this?
Would also like to know
850W PSU Should be fine. Depends on the CPU you have, if you are using intel 14th i7 i9 or 7800X3D, then a 1000W PSU is recommended. Otherwise your RMX850 should be more than enough.
Oh crap. I am so sorry I'm on 750w…will it suffice? I have a 5600x AMD chippie
Mostly likely it's fine as the RMX850's quality is normally good. But it's very close to the PSU limit I would say…
@AppVisionAus: An 850 will be fine!!
Have a look at Igors Lab for some testing…
A good quality 750w PSU would also be suitable provided you dont have a huge draw from the CPU i.e. 14900k or excessive RGB fans :S
Yes I'm running that power supply with a 7900 XTX and 7800X3D.
yes, i pair that PSU with my sapphire 7900xtx and 7800x3d no issues at all
I've got a Corsair AX850 with this exact model card (with a Ryzen 5900x) and absolutely no issues.
Get this if you don't care about Ray Tracing and only gaming. Otherwise 4080 is a better one.
And VR, have AMD fix the VR issues in 7000 series yet? It really the only reason pulling me off AMD this gen.
It can still do decent RT. 4070 Super level RT performance.
You will be missing the ray tracing a lot and the feeling of "what if".
Honestly with most games it provides very little extra benefits, even in games like Cyberpunk and Metro Exodus which are like the two poster boys of RT it feels lack luster for the performance drop. RT for most gamers isnt an issue or much of a bargaining point, the better performance in gpu accelerated programs or using AI definitely more of a benefit but if you don't need those AMD will usually always be the answer.
Agree, between eye candy RT and fps, I choose fps. However, the 4080 is more appealing to general public as it can do other stuff apart from gaming way better than 7900xtx. Hence in the future, resale value would also be higher and easier to sell.
Not sure why get negged when I am telling the truth. Ray tracing provides better visuals. It actually enhances the light, shadows and overall appearance.
Anyway, not my GPU and would not buy that. 4080 or push to 4090. Just my 1 cent.
I didn't neg usually never do unless the comment is absurd and probably already has 10 negs lol. Only giving my opinion on why RT isn't a huge selling point anymore for most gamers who've experienced it.
Ray Tracing bad because Nvidia bad, this logic needs to stop at some point
Not sure where you're getting this from no one's said that? I've only stated RT is lackluster visually for the performance drop you get which is a popular opinion. I don't think there's a single mention of Nvidia being bad?
@lookingforadeal7: popular opinion where, echo chambers like reddit? yeah its because they dont like Nvidia 'driving up prices'
fact is loads of people are still buying Nvidia stuff because they do like using their technology, Ray Tracing in Alan Wake 2 Cyberpunk to name a few is amazing and you'd have to be blind to call it a gimmick, and not everyone is an fps stan where they get joy seeing 200 fps in every game
and you forget to mention DLSS there's DLSS 3 and DLSS 3.5 now, all are far better than any of the competition
@Freestyle: I've actually mentioned why a 4080 would be a better GPU for those reasons and never said Nvidia was bad. Also never called it a gimmick either, only statement that has been made is lacklustre changes for a big performance drop. Even if you're a huge RT fan you have to admit this is true in most use cases.
To reiterate - RT not bad, Nvidia not bad, RT is a lacklustre feature for % fps decrease that comes with it.
Ray Tracing is for touching yourself over at the moment, unless you get a 4090 the performance hit often isn't worth the details you'll never notice when you actually play the game. Over the next couple of generations of cards it'll improve and become one of those standard features no one even thinks any more.
It's got nothing to do with Team Red vs. Team Green
so to future a little for ray tracing 4080 is better? a little googling indicates 7900 are alright?
If you cross reference multiple benchmarks comparing the cards they honestly give similar performance, max 5-10fps difference in some games. Now take into account RT + other nvidia features for $100 extra than it does seem 4080 is the better choice but just my opinion.
4080 might have better resale value but the 7900XTX also has 24gb vram so might perform better into the future similar to the past 3070 8gb vs 6800 16gb. Depends what you value with extra features and to a certain extent, what games you play
Yeah with Unreal Engine 5 actually picking up a lot of traction amongst developers hard to say what will be needed in future. Alan Wake might be the most demanding current game, how much more demanding will games realistically get the next 2 years? I believe Black Myth Wukong is being developed in Unreal Engine 5 and also believe CDProjekt will use it to develop Witcher 4 (this is probably realistically 4 years away yet). Will be interesting to see how Wukong will perform on these cards, looks like an extremely demanding game.
Depends, in pure raw performance without RT, it's been proven that 7900XTX is faster than 4080 in gaming.
For productivity like video editing or 3d rendering, 7900XTX has no chance. Check comparison review, they are all over the internet.
I think RT is good to have, so 4080 would be better for extra $100.
Hmm the question is will the 4080 or the 7900XTX get even cheaper in the near future?
4080 is already End Of Life and cleared out at $1.5K
4080 Super will drop over time and reach $1.5K just before the 5080 launches
XTX is a $1.2K card currently overpriced and so flawed that the 8000/RDNA 4 series will easily beat it in any value metric
I feel like pulling the trigger but also feel like this might be cheaper in the future this year? I made this mistake with the 6900xt and waited too long. Just don't want to be one of those guys that buys now and in a month it's $200 off
but also feel like this might be cheaper in the future this year?
of course it will… prices drop
if you wait long enough it will be on clearance in few years time too.YMMV
I wouldn't upgrade from a 6900xt to this right now.
At least wait until RDNA 4, which is rumored to come out Q3.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/790145 this price has existed before (different model) and with a game, definitely can come down a bit more
Great deal but just be warned about these Asus 7900 XTX cards. I bought one from a well known retailer and after I installed it, I got constant crashes in Warzone and Fortnite. Replaced all other parts as I didn't want to admit a brand new card could be the issue but it was. Returned it to the retailer and it was a bit of a mission to get them to diagnose it (you could run Furmark without a crash) but when they did a full memory test, within 15 minutes, it was coming up with errors.
Card returned to Asus who after a couple weeks sent it back to the retailer who posted it back to me. Installed it and got the same crashes immediately. Called the retailer who then admitted Asus returned it as no fault found (so why send it back to me without saying anything when the retailer diagnosed it as faulty). By this time it had been 2 months since the card was purchased so I asked the retailer for a replacement. They refused and said it's common to have to RMA cards multiple times. Sent it back to the retailer who tested it again and said no fault found. I then asked for the same tech to test it as he told me it was faulty, waited for him to come back from leave and sure enough, he confirmed it was faulty.
After a few discussions with the manager, he decided to replace it with a new card they had in stock and said they'd take up the issue with Acer. I know of another person who had the same issue with one of these cards, out of the box new.
Damn man that's dedication. I would have given up and just stopped playing games.
Haha I nearly did. I'm glad the retailer did the right thing in the end but they didn't make it easy and multiple technicians there told me there was nothing wrong with the card. I'm thankful one tech actually tested it properly.
I also had an Asus RX 7900 XT before this 7900 XTX and had no issues with it. I've read something about a bad batch of memory.
Never had an issue with mine, guess its just luck of the draw.
Gotta be honest I have the 6900xt Asus Tuf and its been the best card I've ever owned, doesn't even go above 70c on a full workload in the middle of summer.
I think you just got unlucky.
Funny you should say that - I also had the same ASUS TUF Edition RX 6900 XT which I purchased brand new in 2021 and I'd get sporadic black screen crashes in Fortnite. Asus finally acknowledged there was a reliability problem and quietly released a BIOS update to "improve stability". Honestly I'm not a huge fan of Asus after my experience with my RX 6900 XT and RX 7900 XTX and neither is Gamers Nexus on Youtube (check out their videos on Asus and you'll think twice about buying Asus again)
idgaf about Ray Tracing which is why I bought this same card for only $50 more 3 months ago. Never had any issues with drivers even with a stable overclock and undervolt.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/790145 different model but the card being available at this price 6 months ago and with a game tells me we should all hold out a little longer.
Got a Sapphire 7900xt for $1350, so xtx for $50 more is totally worth it.
Screw Nvidia. Really happy with the AMD card, drivers are awesome, its the Nvidia drivers that are dated now.
Nvidia is stuck in 2005 with their drivers, but pricing their products like its the year 2045
Interesting point of view - the consensus I read on the internet is that Nvidia has excellent drivers and it's AMD that's stuck in 2005 with frequently releasing buggy drivers.
So, anyone got an idea how I could refund my perfectly fine 7900 XT I bought from PLE last week so that I can get this one instead? 😆
Jokes, i've got a 750w PSU anyway, it easily runs Talos Principle 2 at 4k max, i'm happy (I promise)
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great price for a great card