Nice
Kits are QVL tested as M-die but windwai confirmed receiving A-die on the last deal
Either way, much better value than the recent $190+ Corsair deal
F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5
CL32-38-38-96, 1.35V, Dual Channel Kit, AMD Ready, Matte Black
Limited Lifetime/s Warranty
not bad but these team sticks have been around this price delivered for some time and are almost certainly a die. aus stock too.
DDR5-5600 CL46 almost certainly a die? Team Group does release quite a lot of DDR5-5600 with "Micron" A die. Even if that is Hynix, you are expecting that kit to be good enough to both raise the frequency and lower the latency?
it's advertised as hynix on amzn (not gospel, but worth noting) and has a good reputation for having hynix ics, including a-die. buildzoid's talked about these quite a bit (also not gospel, but worth noting) and there's heaps of testimonies online (/r/oc, /r/bapcsales and such). there's quite a lot of people who have been able to reach even 6000+mt/s ~cl30 with them. despite the heatspreader being as lp as it is people say it performs quite well, too.
i don't have a pair myself - i've got a kingston 6000cl40 that are m die - but i've been really impressed with how well that can oc, too.
The title from the link you pointed indicated, 9 months ago, from Amazon US, people found cheapest M-die. The person who thinks he got an A-die kit didn't provide any evidence.
There are also posts on people trying that kit and couldn't get it to run stable at 6200 at 1.45 V on Intel platform. If the kit is indeed Hynix A-die, then I think that result is disappointing. It is just risky to inform people to buy them based on findings 9 months ago.
Also, a memory kit that's coded to DDR5-6000 CL32 is still more valuable. You don't need to mess around with the settings. While I do hope what you posted is Hynix A-die, it's best to let people know how you can tell (so if you don't get Hynix A-die, you can return to Amazon AU quickly). Thaiphoon Burner doesn't work on Windows 11 by default so if there is some way to tell from looking at the label or the memory chips, it would be best to find out how and let people know.
I bought the CL30 version of this kit and am very happy. YMMV
This or G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo 32GB (2x16GB) 6000MHz DDR5 DDR5 CL30 AMD Ready from the same site for $189?
it's very likely that op's kit can achieve the same timings as these tridents with a bit of care. depends on if you want to get your hands somewhat dirty by overclocking.
for reference my set from PLE manufactured 11/23 are M die
My set is 38/23
What does this mean please? 11/23, 38/23,etc.?
11/23 refers to November 2023 manufacture date. God knows what 38/23 means.
38/23 = 38th week of 2023 (mid September)
Initial batch for QVL testing = M-die
Sep 2023 = A-die
Nov 2023 = M-die
Meaning if you order this kit, it's pot luck whether you receive M-die or A-die
How do you find this information?
@thispasito: Easiest way is to input the serial number of one of your sticks into G.Skills serial/product check page
I have this kit overclocked to 6200MT/s 30CL + Buidzoids timings. Pretty stable. This is a very good price (Paid $190 couple months back)
adding a screenshot if anyone wants to replicate it.
https://imgur.com/a/qQIKWfy
I'm sure it can be tightened a little bit more if you are that kind of guy. I am happy with this result because it took very little effort (Thanks to Buidzoid)
Hmm damn. Any xmp ones around?
I have 2x16gb (6000mhz cl36) F5-6000J3636F16GX2-RS5K. Should I upgrade to this for cl32 or cl30 (from other comments)?
My cpu is: 7800x3d.
Thanks!
No
Thank you, but can you clarify a bit more? I'm a noob on this. Many thanks!
the performance difference would be negligible. the money could be allocated to be spent somewhere else like a better gpu or cpu
just to add to what lachlantula said, not only is there very little difference between those kits generally speaking, but your particular CPU (7800x3d) is even less sensitive to RAM performance due to the larger L3 cache
RAM overclocking is generally safe and pretty easy to try yourself. Download thaiphoon burner, tm5 and a legible hardware monitor and you will be able to see what die your RAM has cross reference that on forums and make a decision on whether you can be bothered with it for the prospective gains based on your observed temperatures. That said, with a 7800x3d, your performance gains will be diminished compared to the standard and x lines which lack the v cache and are more fully beholden to the RAM's bandwidth. I wouldn't bother, but you may be interested in squeezing every last frame from your rig. It would be a few percent gain in more RAM intensive games at best I imagine.
@Alcaro: Haha nice, I haven't received my PC yet but when I do, I will try to overclock the latency to somewhat cl32. From my research I see its doable but unsure.
That kit is Samsung B-die CL36-36-36-96
Depending on silicon lottery, overclocking to CL32-38-38-96 or CL30-40-40-96 is possible
Once you receive the new PC, run it at the stock settings the builder has setup for the first month or so to make sure there's no issues with DOA components or warranty
Then have a crack at overclocking if you have time to spare because in your case, X3D already masks most issues with higher latency RAM
Go look up Actually Hardcore Overclocking channel on YouTube and watch Buildzoid’s instructions on tightening your timings (particularly secondary timings which makes a much bigger difference than primary). Not much point overlocking the memory speed due to the fact that you’re bandwidth bottlenecked by the single CCD infinity fabric on the 7800X3D (like my 7700X). Had a quick look at your kit and I think it may be using Samsung chips so might not be as easy but my Hynix kit I was able to get primary timings down to 30-36-36-30 plus Buildzoid’s secondary timings on my B650E motherboard.
With AMD AM5, my advice:
Honestly, AM5 first gen, go for a SK Hynix based RAM kit. AM5 is fast, but when you run into memory problems, it is very annoying.
What are some possible ram options you'd suggest
I think this one is good (assuming driving to scorptec is not an issue). For AMD AM5, I recommend stick with SK Hynix based RAM modules. Use the mother board QVL to check. However, you may find the memory QVL unable to tell you whether the RAM module is SK Hynix M or A.
You do need to ensure 32GB RAM is good enough for you because 4 DIMMs on AM5 is generally a big no no. If you want to try other types of RAM, I strongly recommend you get one from a retailer that's willing to let you return if you have issues or get both the motherboard and RAM from the same retailer (and get the retailer to agree that if they don't work properly, they will let you return and get compatible one without any restocking fee). Motherboard and RAM incompatibility is really annoying because you need to bring both to the retailer to show the retailer the incompatibility issue.
$173 for me?
The recent Corsair deal was more about the fancy raindrop RGB effect rather than just being a 6000mhz CL30 kit.