Would You Buy Stolen Goods at a Big Discount?

Fat Horny Ghost on 13/03/2024 - 14:21
Last edited 13/03/2024 - 14:26

I recently came across this article of someone organising a theft ring and then selling stolen goods from Sephora, Sunglass Hut on Amazon for a significant discount off retail value.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/us-news/san-diego-mom-mastermi…

If you and others aren't aware of it being stolen, I'm sure the deals would still be ozbargained.

But if you knew the goods were stolen, would you still buy them from online sites such as Amazon?

Note that it's a maximum 10 year jail sentence for receiving stolen goods

So if you don't buy stolen goods at a discount, how much due diligence do you put in to ensure its not stolen?

https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/criminal-law/nsw/offences/….

Poll Options

  • 104
    Yes I want a bargain, I'd buy it regardless
  • 492
    No I wouldn't buy
Fashion & Apparel

Comments

  • DingoBilly on 13/03/2024 - 15:31
    +1

    I wouldn't buy something too cheap because:
    1. Either the product is stolen/dodgy
    2. It's a scam of some sort.

    If it's too good to be true it usually is.

    • t_c on 13/03/2024 - 21:19
      +2

      No $9 Dell printer for you then.

    • Fat Horny Ghost on 18/03/2024 - 09:05

      But from a big seller from Amazon?

  • MITM on 13/03/2024 - 15:37

    Imagine paying full price and someone thinks you're wearing a fake.

  • El cheepo on 13/03/2024 - 15:47

    How would you know the goods are stolen before purchasing on Amazon?

    There are occasionally crazy deals on amazon and most of its users don’t dig deeper then face value on the seller.

    I would argue its on Amazon for lax rules on allowing dodgy sellers on its platform.

    In saying that, no I wouldn’t knowingly buy stolen goods

  • sharkyoz on 13/03/2024 - 16:18
    +1

    half price meat at the pub certainly helps with my cost of living

    • bardlee on 14/03/2024 - 13:59

      smells like regret.

  • Arnold1 on 13/03/2024 - 16:57
    +4

    Shoplifting (stealing) is a victimless crime, like punching somebody in the dark.

  • payless69 on 13/03/2024 - 17:36
    -1

    There is of course 3 different things: Land that can be owned, Human built hardware that can be seen and touched and then intellectual property such as software. The latter has usually patents that can run out with hardware can also have such components.
    So who would prosecute you when you use expired patents ? Somebody might have made minor changes to it and managed to own the intellectual rights depending of the relevant country's jurisdiction.
    As for land, the number of wars fought have now reached a scary number!

    • deme on 13/03/2024 - 19:50
      +3

      Lay off the herbal vaporizer

  • Benoffie on 13/03/2024 - 18:28
    +1

    If it's not based off a Netherlands server, Im not interested 🏴‍☠️

    • Sinnerator on 14/03/2024 - 08:51

      acutally 100%
      because the people who you think "originally" owned it actually stole from another tribe, ad infinitum

      • HangryCakeStore on 16/03/2024 - 16:48
        +2

        Why do truths always get negged.. cause they can’t handle it 😂

    • EitherWayUp on 14/03/2024 - 14:24

      Here we go

    • trapper on 15/03/2024 - 22:35

      Give your land back then, if you think it's stolen.

      • gmatht on 16/03/2024 - 16:56
        -1

        Do you believe the Aboriginals sold Australia?

        • trapper on 18/03/2024 - 14:10

          From what I understand the aboriginal people didn't really have such a concept as land ownership.

          What is your view?

    • HangryCakeStore on 16/03/2024 - 16:48

      Yo stole it from the kangaroos!

  • iNeed2Pee on 13/03/2024 - 18:56
    +6

    Luxxotica sell items at 500% inflated. If anything that within itself is stealing.

  • coffeeinmyveins on 13/03/2024 - 20:37
    +1

    Note that it's a maximum 10 year jail sentence for receiving stolen goods

    you are not being sent to prison for anywhere near 10 years for buying something that was stolen on Amazon, or anywhere for that matter.

  • DiscoJango on 14/03/2024 - 08:56
    -3

    If hypothetically you knew you could not get in trouble, then yes, a majority of people would do it. A $1,300 iphone for $300, who wouldnt.

    • trapper on 14/03/2024 - 12:35
      +5

      Not true.

      Perhaps it is more indicative of the social circle you inhabit rather than society at large.

      • DiscoJango on 14/03/2024 - 13:51
        -1

        I inhibit a social square, does that still count.

    • 2esc on 14/03/2024 - 14:49
      +1

      Sorry not true and if anyone i know did buy stolen goods i would cease to associate with them. Its not about getting in trouble its about not treating other people like dirt.

      Where is this majority of people? Family and friends i know wouldnt do this.

      Who do you associate with?

      • DiscoJango on 14/03/2024 - 18:38
        -1

        I associate with 2 cats, they whisper dark secrets

    • gmatht on 16/03/2024 - 16:39

      Well I did buy a house in Australia. So I guess you are right.

  • bocca on 14/03/2024 - 09:03
    +1

    Nice try ATO

  • KovinKing on 14/03/2024 - 10:40

    This paints Cashies in a better light… they are obligated to check the stuff that comes into the buy department, see ID and hold it for a couple of weeks… doesn't mean it's not stolen, but it should give some protection (like not going to jail) to the next owner if anything comes up…

    • beach bum on 15/03/2024 - 13:11
      +1

      This is likely where 90% of where tools stolen out of work vehicles and garden sheds goes .
      Cops don’t bother taking down serial numbers anymore , just give you the case no. for your insurance claim and bugger off faster than the burglars .

  • lunchbox99 on 14/03/2024 - 11:49
    +1

    You wouldn't steal a car
    https://youtu.be/qPEeaxI0OPU

  • RolandWaites on 14/03/2024 - 12:32
    +1

    Yes.

  • trapper on 14/03/2024 - 12:32
    +2

    Thieves are scumbags who ruin society for everyone.

    Do not support or encourage them in any way.

  • KaTst3R on 14/03/2024 - 13:05
    +2

    There are some lines you dont cross and this is one of them.

    I may be cheap but with dignity.

  • rickdwp on 14/03/2024 - 13:18
    +2

    Kinda amusing how everyone is all "Nope, I'm an upstanding moral citizen!" proceeds to buy all sorts of crap made with slave/child labor or anything from Nestle or Unilever

  • dontboopthesnoot on 14/03/2024 - 13:30
    +2

    You wouldn't download a car

    • prodrome on 14/03/2024 - 13:40
      +2

      I'd love to download a car.

    • Cave Fire on 19/03/2024 - 23:48

      look up "hackrod" and la bandita. Their idea is anyone will be able to play a type of game and design a car to be 3d printed.

  • 2esc on 14/03/2024 - 14:42
    +1

    I work hard for my possessions and would hate to have whats mine stolen. Why would i do that to someone else?

  • dealsucker on 14/03/2024 - 14:48

    Is the obligation not on Amazon to ensure that its not stolen goods? How am I supposed to differentiate between a genuine bargain and stolen stuff?

  • Bid Sniper on 14/03/2024 - 15:25

    See it all the time on FB marketplace with shelves full of used powertools in somones garage or multiple car wheels sets off cars they dont own.

  • Jackson on 14/03/2024 - 16:24

    I wasn't in until you said Sunglass Hut, Luxottica, Rayban. I would buy their stolen stuff in a heartbeat, I heard they are owned by fascists that have basically shut down every other sunglass manufacturer, and what appears to be all these different brands competing is actually a bunch of brands pretending to compete but in reality owned by the same company

  • idonotknowwhy on 14/03/2024 - 16:40

    Note that it's a maximum 10 year jail sentence for receiving stolen goods

    What happens if you buy something online and don't know it's stolen though?

    Eg. I was thinking of buying some broken M1 Macbooks to practice repairing them, but I'm not sure if the thief just 'broke' it eg. poured water in it so it won't turn on, in order to sell it without showing the lost-device screen from Apple?

  • shaybisc on 14/03/2024 - 17:46
    +1

    Would you keep a 1kg bag of cocaine you found washed up at the beach if nobody was looking?

    • Technics on 15/03/2024 - 22:25
      +2

      Keep? No. It may have arrived by sea but the right thing to do in this situation would be to line it up and slowly dispose of it by air.

  • MrMoo on 14/03/2024 - 21:21

    No because if you enable them they'll steal more. Which increases crime rates and robberies. House robberies are probably the worst. Imagine getting your house robbed and then a fellow neighbour buys your stuff. Unlikely but you get the gist of it.

  • Cave Fire on 14/03/2024 - 23:15

    Yeah it goes to a sorting house. The thieves don't get much, so have to keep robbing. It is the middlemen/fencers that keep it going though. Supposed to have lower standards in certain areas. I think some secondhand stuff online may be stolen, but hard to check.

  • jrvb42 on 14/03/2024 - 23:20

    If you have not intention, nor real ability to, buy the goods legitimately, can it be said that the legal owner suffered no actual loss by your procurement of said goods through another, more affordable channel.
    The thief is culpable, the receiver had no intent or ability to acquire thru normal channels anyways.
    Thats the way it would work in my world, where overcharging big brands would be first in front of the guillotine when the revolution comes.

    • trapper on 15/03/2024 - 19:44

      The purchaser of stolen goods creates a market for thieves to operate in.

      In my view, they should face similar consequences to the thieves, although I'm not advocating for the use of the guillotine.

  • plmko on 15/03/2024 - 10:46
    +1

    No worries guys, AI has taught us that theft is ok as long as it's fronted by a mega corp.

    • gmatht on 16/03/2024 - 16:41

      If you train a human artist on the stolen art, you don't even need a mega corp.

  • dontboopthesnoot on 15/03/2024 - 11:14
    +1

    60 people are morelless

    • RolandWaites on 15/03/2024 - 11:29

      The premise of the question is about stealing from a corporation. Not your neighbour. Not an actual person. The corporations in OP's post pay cents to children and impoverished third-world adults, where they have only the choice to work for a starvation wage or starve to death. Then when it gets to Australia (or America in OP's case) they charge premium first-world prices. They exploit the most easily exploited with little compensation, and show no interest in improving the lot of those they actively help condemn to a lifetime of poverty, disease and starvation - not just for them but for their children, and their children too. Their CEOs grow fat off the misery of others a world away with no voice or opportunity to escape the cycle, and we're the criminals?

      I wonder who has lower morals, the executive living in their oceanside mansion built and bought with funds earnt from the exploitation of impoverished slave-wage workers oceans away or the person on the street who can barely afford their rent or mortgage and who's offered a chance to get something nice for a slightly lower price?

      • imurgod on 15/03/2024 - 16:12
        +1

        Those who commit and those who support the crime have no morals.

        There is no blurry lines here.. You may disagree that the executive should be so rich but he worked to get there while these scum steal which affects everyone.

        • RolandWaites on 15/03/2024 - 17:51

          "No morals" seems like an exaggeration. This isn't a binary issue where those who look the other way are pariahs. There is definitely blurry lines.

          • imurgod on 15/03/2024 - 17:56

            @RolandWaites: Ok, maybe that was a bit harsh but people who steal aren't exactly beacons of morality, are they?

            Theft isn't a victimless crime and I don't note any blurry line.

            They're not exactly stealing bread and milk to feed their families.

      • trapper on 15/03/2024 - 19:58

        Thieves are scum and ruin society for everyone.

        I have lived in many parts of the world, including some pretty dodgy places, and man it is just so damn nice to live in a high trust society far-far away from thieving criminal scum.

        Never have to think or worry about stuff getting stolen, or any crime at all really.

        It's worth trying to keep things like this, even if you do miss out something nice for a slightly lower price.

        • RolandWaites on 16/03/2024 - 00:07
          -1

          Again, the examples used don't affect people like you and me. It isn't our stuff being stolen. They're targetting corporations. We shouldn't equate a crime against a corporate entity as equal to a crime against a person. I agree with you that people who burgle houses or rob others on the street are scum, but OP isn't talking about that.

  • May4th on 15/03/2024 - 13:48
    -1

    depends on who's selling.. if it's goods recovered by police or for estate, nothing wrong with that. obviously not if from the thief directly or if they will get any proceeds from it

    • imurgod on 15/03/2024 - 16:10
      +1

      You're talking about police auctions?

      I've never bought anything from them but I've been told some bargains to be had.

  • imurgod on 15/03/2024 - 16:09

    Never, ever.

    Only an absolute lowlife would.

  • luminousfox on 15/03/2024 - 16:42

    Morals aside, i feel like if i knew you stole it and got it for nothing, i'd want it for nothing too, may as well steal it myself. Hardly what i'd call a bargain

  • AlienC on 15/03/2024 - 21:49

    are cd key sites stolen goods.. probably some yes.. so i guess straight to jail for me then because those key discounts are too juicy

    windows key for the price of a coffee is a hard bargain to pass up

    • trapper on 15/03/2024 - 22:33

      No that's not 'theft', even if morally questionable.

      • AlienC on 15/03/2024 - 22:36

        oh thank god i feel much better now

  • prodrome on 16/03/2024 - 09:55

    Fun fact: Illegal drugs are about the only item that doesn't lose retail value when stolen.

  • mrdean on 16/03/2024 - 14:31

    Man I could tell you some stories about the 60's, 70's & 80's. Everything was for the taking. With the copper's blessings.

  • behrouz on 19/03/2024 - 10:55

    some eBay shops operate similarly to pawn shops and sell stolen goods

  • Oofy Doofy on 26/03/2024 - 14:31

    second hand items are already cheap enough.

    So people are wanting new/unused items for marketplace prices?

    What's the difference? Getting it brand spanking new AND for a cheap price? Sometimes you can luck out on marketplace or similar anyway.

    The major sucky is no warranty, which is a deal breaker for some things.

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