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  ste05 on 24/05/2024 - 21:28

  How are these compared to a $99 macpac?

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    nubix on 24/05/2024 - 21:58

    +1

    Main benefit is the weight. Sustainability + warranty factors a little bit?

    It's probably a little closer to the Icefall in comparison but Icefall is definitely the better jacket.

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    spendybeans on 24/05/2024 - 22:00

    +4

    way, way, way, way better.

    I have both. EDIT: I have a Macpac altitude (I believe).

    Macpac in general has gone massively downhill since they were bought out years ago. They're essentially Katmandu-quality. My Macpac sleeping bag is straight up junk compared to quality ones. My giant macpac jacket (That I got only because it was dirt cheap) is OK, but it's not anywhere near as warm as better brands like Mont.

    Patagonia isn't always excellent quality, but it's always a safe bet they're better than Macpac.

    I actually have the non-hooded version. I've had it around 12 years. I take it climbing and around camp on those trips. The material is getting thinner but it's still entirely good.It's not the warmest thing in the world though so be warned. It's at least twice as warm as the Macpac version I have but it's still not a jacket as such.. I was disappointed when I first got it, until I realised it wasn't meant to be a jacket (hence the name I guess).

    The absolute best thing with Patagonia is the lifetime repair guarantee: It breaks, gets torn, etc… you take it in, they will send it away for repair at an approved repair centre… it comes back to you for free (There might postage but I hadn't paid that on the better-sweater (another Patagonia thing I have had for over ten years) I had sent back.

    Anyway, I can't say for sure it's worth nearly 3 times as much… But to me, it kind of is. Macpac to me now is a very low end quality brand. Patagonia still make good stuff (usually).

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      nikoris on 25/05/2024 - 00:37

      +2

      I live in Perth and i wear nothing but my $99 macpac jacket and its the best thing i ever bought, both me and my wife. Light enough, warm enough, 'stylish' enough.
      Not sure what i'd do in a colder climate but the macpac jacket definitely isn't a 'very low end' quality brand, the value for money is there.

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        liam2040 on 25/05/2024 - 01:36

        +4

        Fun fact … Perth Airport has had one day below 22C max this year, and that was 19.7C. We're lucky our winter is mainly 'should i wear shoes instead of thongs today' :)

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      try2bhelpful on 25/05/2024 - 08:10

      +1

      I live in Melbourne and have the MacPac Uberlight. It, generally, works fine for me even in winter. If it gets really cold I might put a thermal on underneath. I prefer to layer rather than having a big jacket where I overheat. Jackets are horses for courses. I don’t go bushwalking or mountain climbing.

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      GUYANDSON on 25/05/2024 - 08:26

      +1

      Yep, had a small blowout on mine when I was in the UK, walked into a Patagonia store, they couldn’t do repair there but they gave me a few strips of tenacious tape to keep everything together for the rest of the trip. Probably could have had held it together for a few years with just the tape but sent it off to get repaired once I got back home. Not a cent out of pocket.

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    R00D on 25/05/2024 - 13:46

    +1

    I've had a Patagonia jacket for 4yrs, it literally looks as it did when I got it. I use this jacket more than any other I own.

    I have 1 x macpac jacket and 1 x macpac vest, they both malt down all the time. The stitching isn't great, they're just obviously more cheaply put together.

    I actually have owned a couple of Superdry puffers that have been the next best quality to Patagonia that I've seen.

    I will only buy Patagonia from now on.

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    Calvin27 on 25/05/2024 - 21:21

    There is so much confirmation bias it's not funny.

    I have good stuff and macpac $99 uber light stuff. They all work.

    I'll address some of the comments by saying:
    - Yeah your patagonia is warmer, that's because the fill weight AND the fill power is higher. Apples and oranges. you kind of have to compare the same and then you can make a comment about warmth perception.
    - The patagonia is 3x the cost.
    - I doubt folks on average will get more wears from the patagonia than then macpac dollar for dollar. You go on the train and everyone is in macpac. These things might not be out in the mountains but I would confidently guess they get worn a hell of a lot more, cop more coffee spills and rain and other stuff that degrades it faster than twice yearly specialty jacket.
    - lifetime repair is nice. But so is paying 1/2 the price and or buying a cheap patch kit.

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      R00D on 26/05/2024 - 19:17

      OzBargain isn't exclusively for budget conscious types who frequent the train and consider wearing Macpac jackets with patches over them, who would have thought?
      I can see why someone 'cheap' might mistakenly consider the confirmation bias here.

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        try2bhelpful on 26/05/2024 - 19:51

        As I said in my post it is horses for courses. We aren't all out scaling Everest either. It isn't about cheap it is about money well spent. You might want to look at your own confirmation bias as well.

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          rumblytangara on 26/05/2024 - 20:26

          @try2bhelpful:

          I don’t go bushwalking or mountain climbing.

          The jacket in this deal certainly isn't for bushwalking or climbing mountains either. It's walk around the city, stand and watch the kids play winter sports, or maybe sit around a camp at night.

          It's just a higher quality version of whatever cheaper hooded Macpac that people seem to like. Haven't looked it up, but it's probably higher loft, goose vs duck, and a shell fabric that's better at down retention. More sewn baffles. Better warranty.

          Pretty much the same use cases, just a difference in quality. Some people buy LED TVs, some people buy OLEDs.

          Edit: Just looked up the Macpac that everyone here likes. It's a noticeable step down- 600 loft duck down, and they don't bother to specify down/feather ratio. The Patagonia version is going to feel much, much nicer. 600 fill down at a low down ratio is nowhere near as soft or as conforming.

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            try2bhelpful on 26/05/2024 - 20:36

            @rumblytangara: Yeah, but most people don't need the extra quality for the extra cost. I don't cheap out with most things, you should see my kitchen appliances, but I don't think I would buy this jacket. I would certainly keep Patagonia in the mix when I look at clothing but it needs to be bang for buck.

            Sometimes it is OK to have good enough.

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              rumblytangara on 26/05/2024 - 20:39

              @try2bhelpful: Same can be said for OLED TVs, thousand dollar Samsung soundbars (though I'd argue the quality isn't there), or business class air tickets.

              Yet people buy them.

              It's a bit arbitrary to say that other people need to draw the line at down jackets.

              I don't have any Patagonia down jackets (I do have one of their synethic belay parkers) but my oldest down jacket is a Marmot- 25 years old and still going strong. So I can understand the value in a good, long lasting piece of clothing that will keep you warm.

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                try2bhelpful on 26/05/2024 - 21:49

                @rumblytangara: This is all about personal choice. In my case, and it is my case, I don’t need the Patagonia jacket to be able to meet my general needs. I much prefer a layered effect with a lower rated jacket because I tend to overheat. In my case the ability to use the arms to tie the coat to my bag is, probably, as important as the loft.

                You can see the value for yourself, I can’t see the value for me. Different people would agree with either of us.

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          R00D on 28/05/2024 - 15:02

          @try2bhelpful: If you'd read my post above you'd see I own both brands. No confirmation bias here.

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            try2bhelpful on 28/05/2024 - 16:16

            -2

            @R00D: Doesn’t mean you don’t have confirmation bias going. It also doesn’t mean you are in a position to comment about anyone else’s confirmation bias.

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        Calvin27 on 27/05/2024 - 10:29

        -1

        Confirmation bias usually comes out when people make off handed comments like 'the stitching is not great' and 'its cheaply put together'. What makes it cheaply put together? What sort of stitching pattern does one use and not the other? What thread sizing is the patagonia?

        No idea, thought so…

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          R00D on 28/05/2024 - 19:10

          @Calvin27: Lose threads consistently, and the down periodically malts from both Macpac jackets I have within 12 months. My 4yr old Patagonia has been flawless.

          It's OK, just stick with what you can afford bud.

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  pizzaguy on 24/05/2024 - 23:35

  +3

  I don't think this is a sweater by anyone's definition across the entire world, incl. Patagonia.

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    nikoris on 25/05/2024 - 00:38

    I am guessing that it means it's designed to be worn with simple t-shirts underneath?

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      Nedkellyinthebush on 25/05/2024 - 04:16

      That depends on where you live / how cold it is

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      rumblytangara on 25/05/2024 - 14:55

      I am guessing that it means it's designed to be worn with simple t-shirts underneath?

      Only designed to be worn with fancy t-shirts underneath.

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  brogdenelian on 25/05/2024 - 08:34

  +4

  How can they guarantee the geese were virgins?

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  Thinkswithelbow on 25/05/2024 - 10:20

  +1

  I have an older Patagonia jacket. They have a free mending service. If you damage your jacket. Send it back or take it to a store. It gets sent away to a repairer in Vic who repairs your jacket and sends it back. Free of charge. All you pay for is the initial shipping to them.

  I just got my puffy jacket back after a small hole appeared in the arm.

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  freshofftheplane on 25/05/2024 - 11:10

  virgin goose lol

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  tobia on 25/05/2024 - 11:50

  +2

  Hoodless in blue for $257

  https://www.patagonia.com.au/products/mens-down-sweater-8467…

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  jordan23140 on 25/05/2024 - 12:30

  +1

  Brown Better sweater for $131.97