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[QLD] All Fares $0.50 on Translink SEQ Public Transport Network (Bus, Train, CityCat/Ferry, G Link Tram) @ Translink

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[QLD] All Fares $0.50 on Translink SEQ Public Transport Network (Bus, Train, CityCat/Ferry, G Link Tram) @ Translink
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ilove on 26/05/2024 - 07:08 statements.qld.gov.au (4498 clicks)
Last edited 30/11/2024 - 14:27 by 4 other users

50c fares: Qld’s public transport fees slashed, no matter how far you travel.

Public transport fares will be slashed to an unbelievably low price, no matter how far you travel, under a major pre-election trial aimed at easing gridlock and easing cost-of-living pressures.

Update 01/06/2024:

Steven Miles announced Airtrain fares will be slashed by 50% for six months from the same date. Now permanent. See updates below.

Mod: Add started date, end date, linked to public source.

Update 30-Nov-2024

The Crisafulli Government Makes 50 Cent Public Transport Fares Permanent

  • The Crisafulli Government is making 50 cent public transport fares permanent on all Translink networks across Queensland.

The Department of Transport and Main Roads will now make the LNP’s 50 cent fares permanent on all Translink public transport networks in Queensland.

Queenslanders will now permanently continue to travel on South East Queensland (SEQ) bus, train, tram and ferry services, as well as Translink urban bus networks across the state, for a flat 50 cent fare.

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Comments

      • falcine on 26/05/2024 - 12:02
        +1

        I'm curious if they can put on extra services during peak hours. Sure, might be room on the 11am Monday morning train, but not many will be interested.

    • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 11:05

      Welcome to the future

      • payless69 on 26/05/2024 - 11:24

        Adani already got permission to shoot the last remaining near extinct bird species before the greenies got to know.
        Now near free coal to warm up our summers.
        I think your bottom pix is a good way to reduce human population as they run at 25kV on all new lines.

        • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:08
          +1

          good way to reduce human population as they run at 25kV on all new lines

          If the vax didn't do it, surely the train lines will.

    • Russ on 26/05/2024 - 21:49

      Is there enough spare capacity in the rail network to accommodate all the new passengers

      The cross-river rail tunnel will help, but it's not due to open until 2026.

      The Brisbane Metro is due to open in "late 2024", so that will help bus travel in part of the trial period.

  • legendestroyer on 26/05/2024 - 10:59
    +6

    This should help alleviate Brisbanes traffic and will save me approx $40 a week, pretty damn good!

    • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 11:17
      +1

      Overseas research has shown little affect on car numbers without a big stick approach included (congestion tax, removing parking etc). The big winners are people who were already paying and pedestrians/cyclists (less exercise though). Car drivers generally keep driving.

      • 1st-Amendment on 26/05/2024 - 11:49

        Overseas research has shown

        Link?

          • DmytroP on 26/05/2024 - 12:57
            +4

            @CookieJacker31: From the link:

            Three years after fares were abolished in Estonia’s capital, Tallinn, the number of bus passengers increased from 55% to 63%, while car journeys decreased only slightly (from 31% to 28%)

            IMHO it's quite a significant decrease in car traffic, about 10%.
            Plus the PT prices were much cheaper in Estonia, about 1-2 Euro per ticket or ~20-30 Euro per month.

      • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:06
        +1

        Source for that research champ?

        • belongsinforums on 26/05/2024 - 12:19

          awaiting the research, it makes sense as, for a lot of us, driving is the only realistic option to get from home to work

        • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 12:31
          +1

          https://theconversation.com/would-you-ditch-your-car-if-publ…

          It's worth digging through some of these examples and others in detail.

          • 1st-Amendment on 26/05/2024 - 12:40
            +4

            @CookieJacker31:

            It's worth digging through some of these examples and others in detail.

            Agree. So here is one conclusion from one of those studies:

            "FFPT has actually helped to generate new revenue that largely covers the reduced or eliminated income from fares.
            FFPT shows medium potential in terms of tackling car congestion or improving urban circulation, and very high potential in terms of improving mobility of under-privileged group, across the urban territory."

            So all wins, no losses?

            • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:48

              @1st-Amendment: The country they used for their article was Luxembourg too. Population of 670,000 vs Greater Brisbane's 2,700,000 in roughly the same geographical footprint. So it wouldn't be exactly apples to apples comparision here on the possible uptake of newly free (or next to free) public transport I would imagine?

            • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 14:26
              +1

              @1st-Amendment: Brisbane to Noosa for $1. Good win for tourism in Noosa. $1 to go see a concert in Brisbane from the GC. Secondary benefits there.

      • shutuptakemymoney101 on 26/05/2024 - 21:00

        I can believe it, catching PT can be a pretty miserable experience sometimes with late running/cancelled services and fellow passengers who wouldn't look out of place living in a zoo.

        Throw in a lack of parking at the station, peak services which are packed in like sardines with the inevitable broken air-conditioning units and driving your own car traffic and all that comes with it can start to look pretty attractive.

  • beach bum on 26/05/2024 - 11:00
    +1

    No , of course not , they don’t actually want more costs and less money just free publicity, I just don’t think there going to like the incoming publicity.

  • bcYield on 26/05/2024 - 11:06
    +2

    Time to plan my trips to make the best out of the 50c ;)

    • payless69 on 26/05/2024 - 11:25
      -2

      Learn to breakdance and pack your spraycans!

  • Onemoredeal on 26/05/2024 - 11:22
    +1

    So lucky that QLD has money trees !!!! They always seem to grow better before an election too!!!

  • PotatoCakes on 26/05/2024 - 11:32
    +1

    Will train from Sunshine Coast to Brisbane be 50 cents?

    • MrBr0 on 26/05/2024 - 11:46
      +1

      Read the examples
      https://statements.qld.gov.au/statements/100402

    • benjamin on 26/05/2024 - 12:01
      +3

      Yes

    • Meowcat on 26/05/2024 - 12:16
      +3

      Gympie North to Varsity Lakes with be $0.50.

      That’s actually nuts.

      • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:22
        +1

        That'd be a LONG trip. Would have to pack food that you aren't allowed to eat on the train or you'll get 309'd

    • Flying Ace on 26/05/2024 - 15:48
      +3

      I know, right? Who's thinking about the poor big businesses and mining companies?!

  • Spacexyz on 26/05/2024 - 11:45
    +2

    Omfg, I love Queensland, I've had enough with Sydney public transport which is unreliable and expensive.

  • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 12:01
    +1

    It is just a vote buying exercise by a desperate government that has failed on all important issues and is now splashing cash left right and centre trying to avoid a luming huge punishment at the elections.
    Just like the $1000 electricity bill rebate.
    Health has been run down to a miserable affair run by incompetent bureaucrats and power hungry politicians whilst patients die in ambulances ramping for hours.
    Tent cities of homeless people are growing in city parks, including a very large one in the premier's own electorate.
    Juvenile crime has been allowed to go on unchecked and unpunished.
    Infrastructure has been neglected and the projects underway have been badly mismanaged with costs doubling and completion times slipping indefinitely.
    But yes, give the populace $1000 energy bill rebates and $0.50 bus rides and keep them happy so they vote for this incompetent government.

    PS. I am not implying that the other party is better, but sure it cannot be worse!

    • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:14
      -1

      vote buying exercise by a desperate government that has failed on all important issues

      But now you can commute for 50c to further expand your knife crime targets to more lucrative areas

      Health has been run down to a miserable affair run by incompetent bureaucrats and power hungry politicians

      Don't forget your 20th booster shot

      Tent cities of homeless people are growing in city parks, including a very large one in the premier's own electorate.

      Yes but now with 50c public transport, you will get to choose which tent city you live in, we can now expand our tent city all over SEQLD.

      Infrastructure has been neglected and the projects underway have been badly mismanaged with costs doubling and completion times slipping indefinitely.

      It's ok. Cross River Rail will never be completed in time to be a 50c ride, they need to make all that money back.

      PS. I am not implying that the other party is better, but sure it cannot be worse!

      Realistically they are both the same, it's all a joke on the Australian people. You don't get a real choice, you get to choose between incompetent Party A or incompetent Party B. If we had a real say I'm fairly certain if you told somebody what life in 2024 would be like back in 2002 they would probably ask how they could prevent such a distopian future.

      • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 12:24
        +1

        I like your positive spin 😉.

        you get to choose between incompetent Party A or incompetent Party B

        I define it more as a choice between the as$holes and the incompetent as$holes.

      • leiiv on 26/05/2024 - 14:19
        +4

        You know that there are other choices? Why not choose the unproven (but assumed to be worse than incompetent) party G?

    • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 12:35
      +1

      A lot of crime around here is from under 18 kids that catch the train here, go on a spree then train it home. Winner.

      • LFO on 27/05/2024 - 09:57
        +1

        They don't pay a ticket so 50 cents or $5 will change nothing …

    • doobes on 26/05/2024 - 13:40
      +4

      Yawn, all bollocks headline crap from Murdoch rubbish

      • beach bum on 26/05/2024 - 14:27
        +1

        Still drives the oldies off the trains in fear , luckily they’ve got minibuses to drive them around in .

    • shutuptakemymoney101 on 26/05/2024 - 21:10

      But we have the Olympics !!!! YAY !!!!!!

  • AirDuster on 26/05/2024 - 12:01
    +1

    Right in time for the state election!

  • hokonfan on 26/05/2024 - 12:10
    +3

    Paid by tax payers to profit corporations.
    Another vote buying scam

    • rangitamoe on 26/05/2024 - 15:53
      +3

      More like coal royalties.

    • falcine on 26/05/2024 - 22:38

      Which corporations are profiting from this?

    • MattyD on 26/05/2024 - 12:37
      +6

      Not negging you, but there is a bigger picture here. Slashing the fares is aimed at easing traffic congestion and reducing cost of living. If enough people are enticed to change over/back to public transport, the long term benefits to QLD taxpayers should outweigh this upfront investment.

      I don't foresee any govt slashing revenue on a whim, and this mob have clearly left enough time before the next election to see whether this initiative is having the intended affect. If they're wrong it will be used against them in October as fiscal mismanagement.

      I for one am glad they're prepared to stake some short term pain on a long term improvements.

      • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:55
        +1

        I'd imagine if it became permanent 50c fares, it may encourage people to move further out and dust off the old ipad and noise cancelling headphones for a cheap as chips commute in.
        Saving on rent being further out, save on transport being so cheap to commute, potentially free up more inner city suburb rentals.
        The only problem is when it catches on, the more desirable outer areas will increase exponentially because of it and make the whole theory less desirable.

        • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 13:08
          +1

          It will not became permanent.
          It will end after the election. Regardless of who wins.

  • Maglia Nera on 26/05/2024 - 12:14
    +2

    Let's buy some votes

    • MattyD on 26/05/2024 - 12:43
      +4

      How? I'm no labour-lacky but if they wanted votes they would implement this closer to the October election.

      If anything, in taking this step they've exposed themselves to the risk that the initiative fails to meaningfully increase public transport uptake. They'd get smashed at the next election as being clueless, reckless with cash and responsible for ongoing road congestion and spiralling cost of living pressure.

      I'm kinda impressed that they've taken that risk with something, which - if they're right - could actually bring some positive change.

      tldr; happy to wait and see before I have a whinge.

    • gviddy on 26/05/2024 - 14:29

      Personally, I don't vote. So it isn't going to influence my decision. A deal for every single person in QLD is a good deal!

  • montorola on 26/05/2024 - 12:20
    -1

    While it's great and all, what exactly is the government doing about youth crime. Time to lock up teenagers and judges also if they release them on bail

    • Meowcat on 26/05/2024 - 12:40
      +5

      The laws are there already but the government can’t interfere or directly advise the judges.

      something something separation of powers something something.

    • doobes on 26/05/2024 - 13:51
      +3

      Hi rupert

    • Nerfy on 26/05/2024 - 17:33
      +5

      What are the stats on youth crime and how have they changed?

      And what are the stats on how media owned by a few billionaires reports on youth crime and how have they changed?

  • bathuu on 26/05/2024 - 12:31
    +4

    Now this is something that is actually helpful to reduce the traffic congestion. Hopefully, the government has money and public transport capacity to handle the additional travellers without actually making it worse for everyone.

    • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 12:44
      +1

      A lot of peak hour traffic is parents dropping kids off to school or day care/picking them up before/after travelling to work. I don't see this decreasing because of a 50c fare.
      You can really notice the difference over school holidays. traffic reduces such an amount its astounding. School holidays reduce the congestion to what the roads capacity should actually be.
      This will help a lot of people and is a very positive move, but I don't think its going to do a lot for getting a substancial number of cars off the road unfortunately.

      • bathuu on 26/05/2024 - 13:08

        I am pretty sure it is gonna reduce congestion on highways. Not sure about local traffic and school runs etc.

        • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 13:15

          Schools are in catchments. You aren't gonna find many parents sending their 6 year old kids to school on the bus by themselves when the parents then have to commute into the city for work (or drop kids at childcare). Most parents won't risk not being able to get home in a timely fashion for the young ones so will drive to do the drop off and then drive into work (even if it means highway driving).
          The people willing to commute are already doing so as its still cheaper than driving in most cases. They will certainly get a big bonus from this, but I don't see it easing much "exisiting" traffic when there are no other real options when you need to safely transport kids to school/childcare.
          As I said, its a hugely positive move by the government, but realistically the majority of the annoying congestion is from parents needing to drive for school/childcare dropoffs and isn't something that will be solved by cheaper public transport.

          • leiiv on 26/05/2024 - 14:27

            @AmperSand: I think the problem is that most bus services inside local areas are crap. You either can't get from point A to point B by bus or the wait time and reliability is abisymal.

            • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 14:34

              @leiiv: Yeah I've actaully had to expirience it first hand. Was either going to be a 3 and a half hour journey via public transport (mismatched connecting buses etc) or ride a bicycle 40-50km which took an hour and a half. Rode bike instead.

      • onegpt on 26/05/2024 - 14:39

        you are right, they should run school buses in metropotilan area. almost cities have school buses. i dont know why they dont have them in australia.

  • Hotwheels on 26/05/2024 - 12:39
    -3

    Is there an election next Month?

  • Kongzi on 26/05/2024 - 12:40
    +2

    Great initiative

  • elvislj on 26/05/2024 - 12:41
    +1

    would be $2000 saving a year in NSW

  • gamemaster on 26/05/2024 - 13:09
    +1

    I wonder what the break down is for people who use public transport. I’m under the impression people who struggle financially live further out from the city centre and have less access to public transport, often needing a car.

    • Save 50 Cent on 26/05/2024 - 18:34
      +1

      Then they will drive to nearest station and catch the train/bus.. great!

  • payless69 on 26/05/2024 - 13:29

    Steven to Cameron: Pensioners? Be a proper D. and screw them!
    Wonder how many self funded retirees will jump ship?

    • INFIDEL on 26/05/2024 - 16:22
      +3

      Many self funded retirees already receive free transport in SEQld…
      With a Qld Seniors Card.

      Those over 65, not working more than 30hr/wk already receive free offpeak bus & ferry in Brisbane. Also on Gold Coast.
      Using a Seniors GoCard.

      Along with many other benefits like daily electricity rebates, free dental & spectacles, etc

      By waiting 1hr between journeys, its already possible to travel suburban Brisbane to beach at Noosa FREE.
      Also free travel in peak times after 2 trips.
      (Using 1-2-FREE on Translink)

      This (temporarily) adds trains & any peak hour use for 50c.

  • gviddy on 26/05/2024 - 14:27
    +5

    Wow, this is a great deal. Combined with the QLD electricity rebate. It is good to see governments actually trying to help for once. Sure people are going to complain but both of these deals seriously can help people a lot.

    • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 14:38

      Yes I agree, but helping people is just the collateral benefit.
      The one and only scope is to get re-elected.
      They don't give a flying fu#k about people and they have demonstrated it for the last 2 terms.

      • belongsinforums on 26/05/2024 - 15:21
        -1

        which policies do you disagree with?

        • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 16:03
          -2

          All the ones that they use to screw people whilst telling them it is for their own good.
          Juvenile crime policies for example. How is your neighbourhood going these days?
          https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/719996

          • Nerfy on 26/05/2024 - 17:35
            +1

            @Mad Max: You linked to a poll about security cameras.

            Why not link to some actual statistics and policies?

          • belongsinforums on 26/05/2024 - 20:51
            +1

            @Mad Max: cops were very responsive. came to fingerprint the next day. they ended up catching the guy fwiw

    • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 14:45

      Helping with "rebates" and "concessions" is really a cop out. They always can (and will be) taken away. Instead of fixing the root cause, what seems to happen is they treat the symptoms/side effects rather than the disease itself.

      • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 15:00

        Or you could think that root causes are intentionally created so that then rebates and concessions could be given to the populace at the right time to make the government look good…

        • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 15:03
          +1

          I see you can read between the lines also. And people lap this crap up like they are being done a favour. Sickening.

          • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 15:18

            @AmperSand: And the funny thing is that those who get screwed the most are the ones that like the most to "lap this crap up like they are being done a favour".

            • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 15:52

              @Mad Max:

              And the funny thing is that those who get screwed the most are the ones that like the most to "lap this crap up like they are being done a favour"

              Imagine my shock

      • CookieJacker31 on 26/05/2024 - 20:47

        Next you will be telling us the money the government borrows to use as cash handouts will have to be paid back at some point If I borrowed someone's credit card, took out $1000 and handed them the $1000 and their credit card back, should they praise me for giving them $1000.

        There is the other issue with cash handouts. Is it better build something that will provide a small benefit every year (more renewables and cheaper electricity) or a one off cash handout that's gone in a year. I'd rather the long term asset.

  • ninohax on 26/05/2024 - 14:46
    +1

    Finally time to make public transport free. At least one state has taken a step in the right direction. Genuinely hope that more states will follow suit.

    • belongsinforums on 26/05/2024 - 15:20
      +1

      already free for old people and kids

      • INFIDEL on 26/05/2024 - 16:38
        +1

        Not quite!
        *Off peak travel subsidised by some Councils!
        Only for old who have a Seniors Card & Seniors GoCard!
        Not on Stare Govt owned rail system!!

    • INFIDEL on 26/05/2024 - 16:42
      +2

      Greens ran with free public transport policy in recent Council Elections.
      Based on popular FREE Seniors public transport in Brisbane & Gold Coast. Subsidised by those Councils.

      • leiiv on 27/05/2024 - 10:07

        And they lost. Is it because most people don't want free PT? Or because of the Greens' hard stance on certain principles (Palestine, etc)? I am wondering if they can win more votes by being more pragmatic.

        • INFIDEL on 27/05/2024 - 15:16

          Very few candidates in a few inner city seats - does not win control of a Council.

          Idealism, rather than pragmatism or doing deals is their driving force.

          I didn't even know free PT for all in Brisbane was their policy.
          Until had a chat with their candidate in my seat, outside pre-poll centre. Was impressed with his youthful sincerity.

          Its hard to know or get their views across, unless you are already a supporter. Living in areas like West End means more contact with their candidates & what they stand for.

          Had a friend stand for Greens in State election on Gold Coast. Tried to get him to tone down his unusual & idealistic views, which even the Greens would not have agreed with.

          Have experience working with AEC on Federal elections & consulting with politicians in my old work.

          Politics can be a pretty dirty game. Relying on employment as a elected representative is a risky game with bills to pay.

          I like Greens idealism, but it won't ever attract mainstream support.

          Really surprised ALP ran with almost free PT trial. But funding it into the future is too much to expect.

          Spending Surplus from coal royalties might attract more criticism then praise.
          It's unsustainable with expected Deficits, but so is funding ever growing expensive road system to keep up with demand💰

  • rangitamoe on 26/05/2024 - 15:51
    -2

    It's 100% a vote grab
    Plus I WFH so it's saving me a grand total of $0

    • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 15:59
      -2

      You can WFH for 50c a trip on a train crammed full of people fighting for seats while utilizing their sharp spatial awareness to invade your personal space all the while you tether to your phone that for "some reason" constantly drops out throughout the rail network. You'll be joyfully doing this while also getting the chance to listen to the entirety of some old guys phone conversation on speaker whilst he yells every reply at the top of his lungs into the phone only to catch the dulcet tones of some zoomer's niche music choice playing in the background for complete ambience fully immersing yourself in the rich culture that is public transportation in Brisbane.
      It's just a choice to WFH in your house really, and a selfish one at that!

  • Munki Kundi on 26/05/2024 - 15:56
    +5

    Despite Whatever the conspiracy theories I can read here, it's still cheap transport . I am a simple person who doesn't want to read between the lines too much.

    • Mad Max on 26/05/2024 - 16:07
      -2

      Yes, exactly as the politicians/masters want you to be.

      • AmperSand on 26/05/2024 - 16:10

        Why think for yourself when its just easier not to?

      • Munki Kundi on 30/05/2024 - 17:52

        That's true. My statement is probably a reflection of my state of mind, tired and out of my depth. I totally get what you're saying, and I agree as well. These moves usually have an agenda behind them…. It's all politics. There are still a few politicians who want to make this a better country though, at least that's what I'd like to believe

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