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Maxes out my ADSL2+ at 1.4 MB/s using less than 30 of the 50 connections.
I use it as my main go to account with another provider for backup. The backup account is hardly ever needed, maybe a few MB a month if that.
What happens once the "block" is used up? Are my credit card details stored?
No, there's no automatic billing with block accounts. You just won't be able to download until you buy another block.
Your card details are stored, but I don't think they automatically bill you.
Thanks x2
You should only need 6-8 connections to max out that connection.. hell, could even do it with 4 if you really wanted to.
To save you having to find that post I referenced…
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/74128#comment-935318
In that post you reference newzbin2.es, which as of yesterday closed down. Any other suggestions for good indexers?
NZB Matrix is my favorite. It costs around $10/10 years.
Posting of binaries or text articles inappropriately, regardless of whether explicitly stated in a newsgroup charter or FAQ will bring your account under review for possible termination.
Is this normal?
If you are determined to have spammed, you will be charged $100 per message as a clean-up fee, plus any collections and/or attorney's fees incurred in the collection of this fee.
This too.
Nothing to worry about, unless you actually POST on Usenet.
For the most of us, we only download.
Be warned your details are stored and if you try buy another block there's no confirmation before charging you!
Now what am I going to do with 1.1TB
shoot them an email asking for a refund of your mistake. If there customer service is any good they should do it for you. Last really big deal here about a year ago I pay'd for an account decided I didn't want it any-more and they gave me a full refund. Perhaps they were a nice company, this company might not be so thoughtful.
don't know if i want to bother or not. I might just keep it. I'll use it eventually afterall
Is it automatic billing when you are on the unlimited per month deal
usenet is actually ahead of torrents. You must be doing something wrong (further confirmed by "newzbin crashing").
I have found less fake files on usenet than torrents. Usenet also allows for better automation.
Your trolling I'm guessing or you are just not very intelligent in which case Usenet is not for you.
torrents are only good for content 5+ years old, nothing else.
torrents are only good for content 5+ years old, nothing else.
Now you're just trolling sam…coz I would have given you credit for being far too intelligent to believe that nonsense.
I've used private bittorrent sites.
New content is slow, in general its slow unless its a highly seeded file, your doing something very illegal by distributing copyrighted material, and the private site will have less content then usenet.
Bittorrent on a whole has a lot of content, but its pointless if its slow or can't be acquired at all.
Your use of usenet is likely similar to someones use of bittorrent which consists of visting the pirate bay.
I'm not saying people shouldn't use bittorrent, but it is well below Usenet, and what you expect, its the free alternative….
Sorry mate, but apart from your final sentence that's all just plain wrong…or at the very least shows a lack of fundamental knowledge about how to setup, maintain & secure a BT client/private tracker.
Why don't you provide proof then?
The fact that your only response to anything is
"my secret private tracker that is better then all the other private trackers and nobody knows about it but me"
says that your likely wrong.
Bittorrent can NEVER win on speed and content, it can have one or the other, but not both.
Lets see screenshots of Far Cry 3, Seinfeld complete 720p, Dragon Ball Kai complete 720p for starters, all at around 10-12 MB/s (80-100mbit)
This is excluding all the downsides to bittorent, very illegal, double downloading (seedbox + your PC), no automation, uploading causes speed issues if you don't have a seedbox etc. I could go on.
Lots of private trackers out there mate, just look around for yourself. The private trackers I use might be good, but they aren't necessarily 'secret' either. It won't take long for you to find them if you use your head, but I'm not shitting in my own nest to prove a point to some anonymous person on OzB.
There are also methods other than BT & Usenet; again, that's for you to unravel for yourselves…unlike Usenet, smart folks don't go running around shooting their mouths off about them. What I use at any given time depends on what I want & when I want it. I just laugh when I see all these Johnny-come-latelys to Usenet spruiking like it's THE ONLY option.
Honestly though, it sounds like you simply never got onto a good tracker or you didn't set it up properly. Any good private tracker will have new rls stuff almost simultaneously with NZB sites because they're usually scene members. Agreed, in the initial stages it may be somewhat slower, but it's free, and you're downloading someone else's IP most of the time so forgive me for being blunt but thieves can't afford to be impatient or greedy IMHO.
For me, a private site with proper seeders (not some dodgy public tracker with 80% using greedytorrent etc) can easily saturate MY CONNECTION which tops out at 1.4MB/s…sorry I don't have a better connection to test it with for you, but I'm stuck in Newy where we have pretty mediocre bandwidth most places IME.
Like I've said, I don't really care how you guys get your content, but don't go perpetuating utter nonsense like "torrents are only good for content 5+ years old, nothing else" because we both know it's simply not true (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here), and it makes you look rather foolish, I'm sorry to say.
I also hate to be the bearer of ill tidings, but I'm not sure if you are aware that downloading the same content from Usenet is just as illegal as torrents…like anything, it is up to you to protect yourself.
I never said Usenet was the only option, I'm saying its the best option if you can afford it and are smart enough to use it properly.
I never said Torrents didn't get new content, I'm saying its slow.
And yes, 1.4 MB/s is slow for broadband, and proves you have no idea if your private trackers are very fast.
Even then I can likely name a lot of content you can't get 1 MB/s with, if your willing to provide proof.
And what I meant was, torrents are only BEST for content 5+ years old, thats assuming the file has seeders.
Again you seem to fail to understand that a lot of rare content within the past 5 years can be difficult to acquire on private trackers.
And this is besides all the other downsides to BT which you haven't responded to.
Nobody generally gets trouble for downloading copyrighted material. 99.9% if not 100% of it is for distributing copyrighted material.
BT users can be responsible for distributing $10,000-$100,000+ worth of copyrighted material for just one file this is not the case for Usenet users.
I suggest you read up on court cases and settlements for copyrighted material and you will see its ONLY for distributing the content to other people.
This is really worrying you mate, settle petal.
I never said Torrents didn't get new content…
That's precisely what you said…
torrents are only good for content 5+ years old, nothing else.
No reading between the lines required there sam.
And what I meant was, torrents are only BEST for content 5+ years old, thats assuming the file has seeders.
Ok, nice backflip…and that would still be wrong. You clearly don't know anything about the vast diversity of private trackers out there, and what releases are available at any given time.
Again you seem to fail to understand that a lot of rare content within the past 5 years can be difficult to acquire on private trackers.
A lot of rare content is difficult to source using any medium, that's why they call it 'rare'! That's a how long is a piece of string scenario dude… ;)
Ok, you keep telling yourself it's not illegal to download copyright material…the head in the sand mentality is a super defence! Let's not forget, just because the majority of prosecutions thus far have been for distributing, does not change the legislation. Remember, receiving stolen goods is just as actionable as theft itself…bear that in mind for the future. :)
usenet is great for any content (including rare) up to 5 years old and any popular content older then 5 years old.
The benefit of torrents is that there are still some seeders on unpopular content older then 5 years, but its slow.
And your just interpreting what I said how you want to hear it, I never said torrents didn't get new content, "only good" doesn't mean that.
Again, you fail to understand that there's no such thing as a private tracker where 100% of the files are seeded well while at the same time having as much content as Usenet.
Distributing illegal content is what is very bad right now, if they start going after downloaders then we can worry about that then.
As of right now Bittorrent is a scary thing to use in the United States, and logs are recorded for years.
They could decide do go after Australians tomorrow and they will have a years worth of logs from you.
Nope, I'm not 'interpreting' anything, you were very clear in your use of language. It's ok to backflip because you're now saying you never meant to say that, but don't go saying the original comment was open to interpretation because it clearly wasn't.
Look, nobody's saying that Usenet isn't faster, or that it's not good (coz it is); but used wisely even torrents are fast enough for all but the most impatient people…without paying a premium.
I'll let you in on a little security secret though, Usenet is rapidly gaining in popularity…if it gets popular enough, you might just find that they go after downloaders in a year or two's time they may just choose Usenet either before or concomitantly with BT! IP lawyers are not stupid, contrary to popular belief. ;)
I agree with your comment.
I know we are currently in a heated discussion, but please understand that I know what I intended to say, and I didn't say new content isn't on bittorrent (because thats a stupid thing to say and why would I say something stupid)
Just understand that there is a huge list of benefits to using Usenet, if you don't want to pay thats fine, but you need to acknowledge all the benefits if you do want to pay, otherwise you are sticking your head in the sand….
(also real scene members don't use BT, this is made clear in their NFO's over the years)
There are plenty of scene groups that are not official or respected that upload to torrent and do other things, but this doesn't count.
Nah, not heated…I like debating with you because you usually put forward a logical argument! :D
(also real scene members don't use BT, this is made clear in their NFO's over the years)
How do you think stuff gets from the scene to p2p??? "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist."
Usenet has already gained enough popularity, they have gone after index sites as thats all they can do.
They can't go after downloaders, its nearly impossible. Providers don't keep logs, and your downloads are SSL encrypted. Your ISP can spend 10 billion dollars on trying to catch you and they will not find anything.
If they could go after us, they would, they even struggle to go after uploaders.
"How do you think stuff gets from the scene to p2p??? "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist."
General BT users and people down the chain from scene members do this. Not scene members themselves, this goes elsewhere.
They can't go after downloaders, its nearly impossible. Providers don't keep logs, and your downloads are SSL encrypted. Your ISP can spend 10 billion dollars on trying to catch you and they will not find anything.
Tell that to the reams of kiddie pr0n downloaders in gaol internationally right now who thought Usenet wasn't logged at all. If the AFP couldn't have some sort of recourse in this country, we wouldn't have access to Usenet here, period.
General BT users and people down the chain from scene members do this. Not scene members themselves, this goes elsewhere.
Like I said, it's nice that you believe that fairy tale, but it's a little naive! Whilst it's a fairly accurate representation for mainstream public sites, if you hang out on the warez & scene #IRC channels for a little while then you'll start seeing familiar faces on the good private trackers! :)
Biggest troll ever. Do you even know anything about usenet? I use to find a lot more 'fake' files on torrents then I ever have on usenet using a good NZB site. And aren't most things on torrents from usenet that people upload first of all anyway?
And aren't most things on torrents from usenet that people upload first of all anyway?
Yes
The scene is not Usenet.
You keep showing you have no clue. Run along now, script kiddy.
I've gotta say, I tried usenet for a bit and didn't like it. Was just hard work finding anything and then the only semi-decent nzb sites would charge for membership….
I much prefer private trackers over usenet.
I did like how SABnzbd was able to extract from rar's and delete useless files automatically though! That was very handy!
Hey, I've liked Usenet from the get-go (and by that I mean its inception); but I don't like paying…so it's a simple decision for me when there's so many free alternatives.
You're trolling right? Usenet back in the day was used for 0day distribution of scene releases and for many groups, still is.
Newsbin is terrible software, and it's pretty widely known to be poorly supported and riddled with bugs. SABnzbd is free and the most stable program I've used.
Torrents are P2P traffic, it's 2 way. Hence the bandwith you use if you want to maintain a good 'seed ratio' on those sites will be at least double, since you need to upload 1:1 for what you download to be a part of that community. Also your speed is determined by how fast your peers' upstream is, which is not reliable.
Usenet you max your bandwith 100% of the time, so its faster, no upload obligations, and its cheaper.
Any "decent" torrenting website will be full of seedboxs, you will be downloading from them 99% of the time. As i said you can get a seedbox or go VIP so you dont have to upload.
and how do you handle the automation? Using usenet I can set a TV show or movie and have it automatically download every episode as soon as it's available.
Once downloaded it will:
-clean up the download (removing any extra files eg. samples screenshots release info)
-download artwork for the show
-update my XBMC library (for TV playback)
-download subtitles
-download the trailer
Even better while browsing a website such as IMDB i can quickly mark a movie for download and it will be downloaded when it is available. I can do this from anywhere with an internet connection, no access to my computer needed.
I'm going to agree with you since usenet has really gone down hill recently .A lot of fake ,missing files and incomplete files where you don't find out until the last minute. If you don't have a lot of bandwidth from your isp then you are going to be wasting a lot of your quota on nothing. It is only good for recently uploaded thing but theres other solutions aka torrent which does the job better. However usenet beats public torrents any day.
note :
I'm talking about decent torrent sites where your downloading from fast unloaders and seed boxes
Usenet is better than torrents in every way if that is how you like to download.
Im guessing you are one of the few here that actually have access to invite only private trackers.
Every one else seems to be thinking im comparing Usenet to something like the piratebay lol.
I agree with everything you said.
Actually I am a member of private torrent trackers. I still use usenet though.
Yes if you want automation, I would recommend usenet definitely.
0day are only programs, i am talking about games/movies/tvshows. as stated in my post. Obviously a private torrent site has quicker runners that get scene releases released to the torrent tracker quicker than it appears on Usenet.
For a list of indexing sites, you might want to try
http://wiki.sabnzbd.org/nzb-sources
If you are a first time Usenet user, you might want to stick with using 2 kinds of software:
Unzbin (an easy to use, lightweight client that weights less than 1MB — it has a interface very similar to the old uTorrent)
Sabnzbd (a more advanced client that has a few more features and plugin support).
Newzbin hompage :
MrWhite @ 24-10-2012 11:46 GMT
Problem with NZB's Again (FIXED)
Credits for everyone
As you may have noticed we are having a lot of problems with empty NZBs and NFOs. While we can't be sure based on diagnostics we reckon one of our core servers may have reached the end of it's useful life. We'll have to get new server which will take a bit of time.
that is just what is on the hompage atm, i know of anthor issue were he messed up some coding or something that caused issues as well.
That's a problem with ONE NZB site.. not a problem with any usenet server themselves! Nice failed troll.
Look mate not trolling read my post i said newbin not usenet!! As Daabido is recommending everyone use.
Not trolling, do a search for most recent comments and you will find.
Sorry but what is that supposed to prove? fake files? I looked through the comments and most of the people leaving negative comments are idiots eg. complaining about hard coded subs when it's clearly tagged as having subs. Commenting the audio isn't in English when it clearly says German in the tags.
Those comments are probably Jarr0d judging by his posts so far…
ok well, from what i have witnessed, black ops2 assassins creed3 and hitman all dropped on torrentleech a good 24 hours before newbin…. want me to get release dates and times from both sites to prove that aswell?
Look dude, just give it up, leave them to their own devices…just be thankful none of them have remembered to bust out the usual First Rule drivel.
Ultimately, nobody really cares how anybody else downloads their pr0n! ;)
Awesome. Just got 1. Cheaper than the Terrabyte Tuesdays.
Just out of curiosity, how cheap is Terrabyte Tuesdays? The reason I ask is because I'm on a hunt for cheap blocks of GB (such as this deal), I use to have thundernews and signed up with them last year during black friday, and got the unlimited deal for only $5 a month, however recently I've shut my credit card down, and unfortunately Thundernews dont accept my visa debit card that I currently have =(. So Sad because I don't know of any other way to pay unless I get a credit card, which i cant do.
1TB for $40
If you download fake files from Usenet, you are doing it wrong.
If you get missing articles/incompletes on many files, you are doing it wrong
If you have any problems with Usenet, most likely you are doing it wrong.
Yes there are certain issues with DCMA with a few rare things like UFC, again, if you haven't automated something like UFC then you are doing it wrong.
A recent 12.4GB file I downloaded from Usenet: "Downloaded in 20 minutes 16 seconds at an average of 10.4 MB/s"
Also a feature many of you don't know about, Usenet can stream.
yes that means I can select a 15GB 1080p Movie from my couch and watch it in about a minute while it streams the download.
I'd like to see you stream a 15GB movie on Bittorrent :)
aah yes. I haven't bothered messing with streaming yet. never had a time when I wanted to watch something RIGHT NOW rather than wait 10 minutes for it to download.
Which program do you use to stream?
pneumatic for XBMC will do it.
I'll also note that you can tell it to keep the download rather then delete after you have streamed it.
This way you don't waste bandwidth if you want a copy to archive.
Utorrent supports streaming….
Yeah sure, you can stream a blurry pixelated video…
You can't stream a 15GB 1080p Movie.
Yeah sure, you can stream a blurry pixelated video…
Here we go again with the negativity…oddly enough, that's not the major potential drawback of uTorrent streaming. Your homework is to go off & research, then report back on the real issue! ;)
You can't stream a 15GB 1080p Movie.
Now, wouldn't that be uniquely buffer/connection/swarm dependent rather than client??? Psst, there's a homework hint there sam! :)
Personally, I don't like uTorrent streaming, so that would be a win squarely for Usenet; but the fact is that it exists and it is to some extent functional FWIW…
I'm unsure what your trying to say, you agree with me..
I'm saying it doesn't work because you have to maintain an insane speed that is generally not possible with most torrents.
Bittorrent isn't designed for streaming, I'm surprised it works at all.
We sort of agree, yes; but the issue isn't the quality of the stream as you infer, rather it's that the process is wholly reliant on swarm conditions for sustained throughput; much less so than overall torrent speed per se. Same root cause, different signs & symptoms to some extent IME.
In my own tests, I could get high quality streams for the files so long as the conditions were right (enough seeders/peers with the right chunks - not always more is better either!); but rather than suffer the deteriorating quality you've suggested, it pretty much just fell over entirely if the conditions weren't met. That was my experience anyway, I'd actually be interested to hear from anyone who has other first hand experience…
As you rightly say, it's a miracle that it works at all…hence why I don't like it! :)
But you couldn't…I'm quite sure 1.4 MB/s can't stream a 15GB 1080p movie…
Sorry, you're quite right. I didn't mention that I certainly wasn't trying movies encoded with bitrates that high; I'd never download anything like that anyway…if I was gonna crack 10-12GB (let alone 15GB+) for a movie download it would only be for a big name flick that I'd just be considering buying the Bluray for anyway!
I'm aware of the limitations of my connection…I'm brave, but not foolish! We're talking resolutions & bitrates appropriate to my connection here…you can still get very nice rips at much lower bitrates. 1.4MB/s is more than enough for high-ish bitrate 720p or low-ish bitrate 1080p (audio track dependent of course).
Like I said, I'd be happy to hear from someone who's tried it with a better connection than mine! ;)
I agree :)
I'm a little crazy in that everything I download is 1080p
I can't watch anything below 720p
I can't watch anything below 720p
We're on the same page there! :D
Frak….. wanted to grab this and saw the deal initially listed as "expired" in 7 days….. next time!
I would sign up but I have no idea how their speed is. Anyone know if their speeds are good?