[QLD] $500 Rebate on E-Bike, $200 Rebate on E-Scooter @ Queensland Zero Emission Vehicle Strategy

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Eligibility criteria
To be eligible for a rebate under the scheme, you must:

  • purchase your eligible e-bicycle or e-scooter in full (including through buy now, pay later services) on or after 23 September 2024
  • purchase your eligible e-bicycle or e-scooter either in person at a retail store or online from an eligible business (a retail business located in Queensland or an Australian online * business—sole-trader, partnership, private or public company, trust or incorporated not for profit organisation—operating under an active Australian Business Number (ABN)
  • be a person aged 18 years or over
  • be a Queensland resident. This may be evidenced by a valid Queensland driver’s licence, or another form of evidence to prove residency in Queensland.

Eligible devices
To be eligible, an e-scooter must:

To be eligible, an e-scooter must:

  • be designed for use by 1 person
  • have 1 wheel at the front, and 1 or 2 wheels at the back or; 1 or 2 wheels at the front and 1wheel at the back
  • be propelled by an electric motor that is not capable of operating when the device is going faster than 25km/h
  • be steered by handlebars
  • have a footboard supported by the wheels
  • be no more than:
    • 1,250mm in length
    • 700mm in width
    • 1,350mm in height
    • 60kg in mass, when not carrying a person or other load.

To be eligible, power-assisted bicycle must:

  • be a power-assisted bicycle, that is:
    • be fitted with one or more electric auxiliary motor/s with a maximum power output, or combined maximum power output of not more than 200 watts; and
    • not be capable of travelling faster than:
      • 6km/h when propelled only by the electric motor/s (no pedalling), or
      • 25km/h while the motor/s are providing assistance (speeds in excess of 25km/h are only permitted under pedal power only) and
      • not be fitted with an internal combustion engine; or
    • be an electrically power-assisted cycle (EPAC) with a maximum continuous rated power of 250 watt, of which the output is:
      • progressively reduced as the cycle's travel speed increases above 6km/h; and
      • cut off, when:
        • the cycle reaches a speed of 25km/h; or
        • the cyclist not pedalling and the travel speed exceeds 6km/h.

Please visit this page and scroll down to the subheading "Source of power" for a further explanation on what the different types of electric bicycles are, to avoid purchasing a bicycle that may not qualify for the rebate.

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Comments

  • +120

    how good is an election year

    • +29

      We should do an election every year.

      • +16

        This is going to end up on an episode of "Great Moments in Unintended Consequences". This is a youtube series which deal with governments which had the best of intentions, but had bad results.
        There are very few ebikes which are eligible for the rebate as the majority are 250W output and the scheme limits to 200W maximum. If you aren't aware of this restriction, there are going to be LOTS of people who buy an ebike only to be denied the rebate and will resent the current government (leading them to vote for the opposition, which is certainly NOT the intention of the scheme).
        And as for the escooters, the cheapest ones are less than $200 (with almost none having good reviews). So it's essentially going to flood the market with cheap and nasty escooters that are probably going to lead to some serious injuries. This, combined with inexperienced people buying these escooters will also add to this injury risk.

        • +10

          No, it gets way worse. Not only will the ebikes and scooters bought be the cheapest ones possible, but because people will be buying them on a whim of "it's free anyway", they'll be forgotten and poorly stored in many a garage/shed, posing as a fire hazard for many years to come.

          • +5

            @Ryven: Or it’ll stimulate the market by giving interested people entry level products. Their kids will use them snd get into the concept of ebikes

            • @AustriaBargain: Aren't there enough problems with weight now? Encouraging lazy forms of transport might not be a clever idea.
              But then, it's not about the people, it's about getting re elected.

              • +6

                @jrvb42: Guarantee balancing yourself on an escooter for hours is better exercise than driving or standing around for a bus. And it frees up space on the road and the bus for my fat ass.

        • +6

          @Lycan the OP should have put the full e-bike eligibility criteria to avoid confusion. Under the 'To be eligible… 200W etc' it continues:
          "or
          be an electrically power-assisted cycle (EPAC) with a maximum continuous rated power of 250 watt, of which the output is:
          progressively reduced as the cycle's travel speed increases above 6km/h; and
          cut off, when:
          the cycle reaches a speed of 25km/h; or
          the cyclist not pedalling and the travel speed exceeds 6km/h."

          This covers all the various 'legal' e-bikes from well-known brands sold from most proper bike shops. Source is from the deal - the whole section should have been posted.

          • @RoonFTW: If the consuming public are not smart enough to read the Deal & or Ts & Cs by now, they deserve to miss out.
            The OP and all posters of deals are not responsible for every possible option or outcome.

            • @doctordv8: No, the OP is responsible for posting correct eligibility criteria, especially if they post only part of it and neglect to post the whole section, causing confusion as shown in the replies below. In fact, the OP went and added the bit they missed; apologising for the omission. Though late to the party, what you read up there has kindly been edited days ago by the OP to accurately describe every possible eligibility option.

    • +32

      It's amazing what they can do with other people's money.

      • +6

        the real pain starts after the election, VIC and NSW are two classic examples and QLD is certainly going to be next.

        • +9

          Possibly, however Queensland actually has money.

          • +6

            @brendanm: that's right, it's Coal Country!

            • +11

              @M00Cow: Black coking coal, None of that rubbish brown coal stuff down south!

              • +4

                @entropysbane: exactly! efficient environmentally friendly coal! we're actually saving the planet selling it ;-)

                • +1

                  @M00Cow: Hmm, might be overselling a tad there buddy.

                  But, i suppose without qld coal there would be a lot less steel in the world.

        • What do you mean?

      • +10

        Lots of this stuff is coming from the coal royalty tax. So it is coming from Gina.

        The same Gina that owns channel 9.

        The same channel 9 that runs wall to wall 'youth crime epidemic'.

        The same sole policy that the LNP has.

        The same LNP which will reduce Gina's tax.

    • -1

      They are talking about 50c fares being permanent if the current government wins re-election.

      "From today, a six-month trial of 50-cent fares will begin on Queensland's public transport network of buses, trains, ferries, and trams. All journeys, regardless of the length of trip, will cost 50 cents, with the state government set to forgo about $150 million in fare revenue." - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-05/50c-fares-trial-launc…

      "Analysis of the method of travel to work of the residents in Queensland in 2021, compared to Australia, shows that 4.0% used public transport, while 64.0% used a private vehicle, compared with 4.5% and 56.6% respectively in Australia." - https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/australias-journey-work

      • $300mill/year in lost revenue
      • 5 million people live in QLD
        = Every person in QLD is paying $60/year to subsidize the 4% who use public transport

      People love 50c fares, but we all pay in the end. :/

      • +21

        Every person is also paying for roads whether they don't drive or drive very little like me on weekdays. Also this should boost the PT user numbers.

      • +1

        Politicians travel in taxpayers funded jets.
        Sometime 1 jet for each politician. Even if they are doing the exact same trip.
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/10414801…
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl…
        https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.couriermail.com.au/news/que…

        Populace are given free bus though.

        • +2

          If you've chartered a government jet for 3 days and your stop for an impromptu birthday bash is enroute to your end of day destination, it makes total sense to fly. The pilots and cabin crew are paid the same anyway. Actually it's probably cheaper to fly, because if he drove the 75km, the plane crew would likely be paid extra overtime to wait for him.

          I'm surprised that the article didn't mention that he wasted tax payers money of $6.40 on each of the 3 cakes at Woolies, and $1.80 on a punnet of strawberries instead of buying from a local bakery and grocer.

      • +4

        There’s no one taking PT because it’s too expensive or not good because it’s no one’s taking PT.
        Change needs to happen to encourage pre people to take it. For every person on the bus or train could be a potential person with another car on the road.
        The cost of this will help slow the need for more frequent road expansions and repairs.

        It’s worth it if we want to live in a city that only people who like to or need to drive can get to places easier too.

      • +3

        If public transport like buses/trains/etc travel empty of passengers does it mean lost revenue??
        Because they still do run.

        What's the difference?

      • The only thing governments introduce that are permanent are taxes and levies. Rebates and discounts are rarely permanent.

    • -4

      I can't remember such blatant vote-buying as we have seen from Qld Labor this year.

      • +2

        I see where you're coming from, but isn't making changes that people support part of how democracy works? If policies reflect what voters want, it means the system is doing its job. How do you think it could work better?

        • -1

          They're not meaningful, systemic changes though - that's the problem.

          We should put policy over party, but we shouldn't vote for whoever helps us but an ebike.

          • +2

            @besttechadvisor: I think we should all vote for whoever helps buy us e-bikes (and houses).

            • +2

              @Skatez: If by "helps buy" you mean they improve our economic situation so that we can all afford to buy ebikes and houses, then sure, everyone supports the government improving the economic situation of everyday people.

              If by "helps buy" you mean sells off our natural resources, gives tax cuts to corps, grants to private companies, privatises our infrastructure, mass imports 'students' and backpackers to exploit for cheap labour and drive-up property prices, then gives us a $500 rebate on ebikes… then no, no-one should support that.

          • @besttechadvisor: That's a fair point. However I don't think it has to be one or the other. Systemic changes can happen alongside simpler initiatives, like getting people outside and more active by encouraging bike use. I believe it's possible, and ideal, to aim for both.

            • +2

              @bargyboi: I 100% agree, it can be both. But it's not both. So, in this case, it's just vote buying.

              The 50¢ public transport is a bit vote buying-ish, but it's also the way things should be. A good, if small, systemic change change I can get behind.

              I feel most people who but these ebikes won't take their cars off the road, so they'll mostly end up as toys or ewaste.

        • -4

          Then how do you explain the 100s million sent to Ukraine?

          • +1

            @frewer: Same way as you would explain billions of dollars sent to UNRWA and Gaza over decades.

    • But such rebates usually results in:
      1) Stock shortages initially due to higher demand
      2) higher preices as retailers cash in on the higher demand. Expect e-bikes to increase in price by around the same. happens every time governments introduce such rebates. All I can say is - "get in quck"

    • Every e bike is atleasr 250w. Are they trying to scam us

  • +5

    Is it legal to ride them down the street?

    • +3

      not for NSW :(

    • +3

      Do you mean on the road? Only when the speed limit is 50km or less.

    • +10

      In QLD an eScooter can ride on <=50kmh roads and footpaths giving way to pedestrians.
      A compliant eBike can ride on most roads (restrictions for freeways and if signposted) and footpaths giving way to pedestrians.

      • +1

        https://mercane.com.au/qld-e-scooter-rules-and-tips/

        Speed limits

        Riders must comply with relevant speed limits based on where they are riding.
        Where there is no relevant speed signage, the default speed limits are:
            12km/h on footpaths, shared paths and crossings
            25km/h on permitted local roads and dedicated bike paths and bike lanes
            10km/h in shared zones
            or specified path speed limits
        

        Riders can continue to ride on:

        footpaths, shared paths, separated paths and bike paths
        local streets (where the speed limit is 50km/h or less and there are no dividing lines, median strips, or one-way streets with only 1 marked lane).
        bike lanes on roads where the speed limit is 50km/h or less
        bike lanes that are physically separated from other lanes of traffic
        

        And are now permitted to:

        use a mobile phone while stationary on a path or nature strip
        park their device on a path or nature strip (for example, when using a shared e-scooter scheme)
        ride diagonally across a scramble crossing pedestrian intersection
        cross the pedestrian side of a separated footpath
        ride on a safety zone near a tram stop.
        

        Riders are only permitted to ride on the road in some limited circumstances to:

        avoid an obstruction on a path or bike lane for up to 50m
        bike lanes that are physically separated from other lanes of traffic (for example, by bollards or raised median strip).
        access a bicycle storage box at an intersection
        move out of the way of an emergency vehicle
        travel through an intersection between a road, bike lane or path that they are permitted to be in.
        

        Obstruction = pedestrian wearing headphones???????

        See https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/roads-s…

    • +1

      Yes, when the street is 50km.hr or less. other wise cycle ways and footpaths, the later is stupid (IMO) as we should not be mixing with pedestrians but they do it because kids can use them and alternate transport infrastructure is abysmal in Qld, so no real alternative or there'd be even more dead kids from cars.

      I have owned an escoot for 3 years now and love it, my partner uses hers to go to work, she can carry it in, fold the handle down and store it under a desk.

  • +39

    Watch the price of e-bikes go through the roof.

    • +9

      Like when a home owners grant increases… so does the house price

      • +2

        I agree with you about home owner grants. This is because housing supply is inelastic. For ebikes, hopefully the supply is more responsive and there is competition between sellers!

    • +14

      You can buy online from any state (but not international) so QLD retail cant pricegouge too much.

      • Smart way of doing it, when most would order online anyway.

    • +9

      Why? There are 5 other states and 2 other territories that you can buy ebikes and scooters from. Can't see them upping their prices, and doubt (m)any Queensland retailers will either.

    • +2

      Well, it’s a bit trickier when you can just buy a bike online from down south where the taxpayer looting doesn’t exist. It might be thus too hard for the retailer to extract economic rent as it would be too blatant to charge more for a qld address. Maybe up the shipping?

      If you want a blatant example of economic rent, look no further than the insulation rebate offered by the Rudd Government about 15 years ago. My father was in the process of putting insulation into his roof just before. The quote was $750. Rudd announces the $1650 pink batts rebate: dad rings up the installer to be told “sorry, the price is now $1650. The gap was about three weeks with the pink batt announcement in between.

      • +1

        Happens whenever any government designs a scheme or offers financial relief.

        We had funding to lift houses up above flood levels, and instantly $20k was added to standard pricing.

        • +2

          Because you can't just buy that lifted house from an online retailer and have it delivered to the plot, local builders know you got the money and have no other option.
          Unless every online retailer agreed to charge an extra $500 for delivery to Qld because of this and take that profit this ain't gonna happen.

          Totally different issue.
          Bare in mine, I don't really agree with this (where's the rebate for a pedal bike that is actually zero emissions?).

    • -4

      Of course not but we have to appease the weather Gods lest they destroy our crops with a volcano! So just pretend like half the rest of the population until the weather priests from the Church of Netzero declare that their Gods are satisfied…if they ever can be.

      Otherwise, just buy one for funsies (but make sure you don't charge it inside the house. :) )

      • +2

        Haha.
        Don’t tell anyone I laughed or they’ll ostracize me…

    • yes. objectively.

  • +10

    To be eligible, power-assisted bicycle must:
    - not be fitted with an internal combustion engine.

    what

    • +20

      Some pelican who lives near me has an ICE on his pushie - the whole world stops when he passes my house as it's so f'ing loud!!

      • +6

        2 stroke is god.

        • +10

          Would you prefer he be a tighter man child?

        • +2

          I always think, '…I wonder how they lost their licence…

    • (profanity) teenagers somewhere in our area have 2-stroke engines on their bikes, and they're a menace - both from a noise standpoint and their reckless riding behaviour.

  • +9

    https://www.99bikes.com.au/23-newtown-blue

    $500 after rebate looks decent!

    • +1

      Wait a minute… do they even make eBikes with less than 250W?

      To be eligible, power-assisted bicycle must: be fitted with 1 or more electric auxiliary motors with a maximum power output, or combined maximum power output of not more than 200 watts

      • +2

        Almost all ebikes are 250w, so I expect the grant requirements to be adjusted to 250w once they realise that.

        • -1

          Or not.

          That way they can be seen as doing something. And it's not going to cost them much because they can knock back most of the applications… :D

          • +8

            @MonkDog: It's already been updated to include pedal assist bikes up to 250w.

            See https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/projects/electricvehicles/z…

            • @frugalferret: There's some very ambiguous and's and or's in that statement. Maybe you are ok if you have a "electrically power-assisted cycle (EPAC)" of 250w but if you only have a "power-assisted bicycle" it has to be 200w. Hope they do another update.

              • +3

                @rnielsen: Makes sense to me.
                200w for throttle only ebikes
                250w for pedal assist bikes without throttle

                Same as Tasmania's rebate scheme for ebikes.

    • Is this the cheapest decent one out there?

    • Watch out, this is not eligible as 450W

      • +1

        It looks like Benny posted a 250w bike. Where are you seeing 450w?

  • +23

    What the HELL. NSW fines people up to $2500 for riding an escooter and Queensland actually pays you to buy one. C'mon….

    People should use this form to contact the NSW Transport minister and ask what's up with that: https://www.nsw.gov.au/nsw-government/ministers/minister-for…

    • +2

      too busy handing out free train ride this weekend.

    • +5

      Qld: 50c public transport indefinitely. Enjoy

      NSW: best I can do is free trains for a weekend

      • +1

        Nsw laws are a joke.

        I'd be interested to see if someone took them to court to challenge the fines validity

        • In my area in Qld, police don't stop scooter riders from riding on the road. I've seen many ride past police and police pass the scooter riders.

          A few months ago I passed a young lady on a scooter who had just been hit by a car. I saw the ambulances come and take her away. I read in the news later that she was recovering in hospital and that she shouldn't have been on the road, so even if the car didn't stop for her, it was her fault.

          She was wearing a helmet. Most riders around here don't wear one on the road. It looked to me like she was just trying to cross an intersection.

          • @KLF23: Is this ride share scheme?

            There is a huge difference between diligent private owners and drunk people finding scooters on the ground that they don't own and playing on them whilst intoxicated and no skill of how to use them.

          • +1

            @KLF23: Policing is far more relaxed in Queensland, especially if the roads.

            There are so few highway patrol, they just stick cameras everywhere. I've been RBT'd twice in nearly a decade of living in Queensland.

            When I lived in Western Sydney, I'd get RBT'd every few months.

  • +2
    • Check out those reviews…

      • +1

        I am not keen to buy. But wondering if I buy one for $200 or less, would it be free?

        • I already have a scooter (Dammit!) but I have to admit I've been somewhat curious about e-bikes also on the side, seeing this might make me take a look around…

          • -1

            @Stoibs: I personally am not keen on e-bikes, the cheap ones cost more to maintain and I do not have space for them at home or work.

        • I would think so based on my previous experience dealing with similar rebate. i.e. Received whole invoice amount when it was less.

    • +4

      they have some for 200 also, ie: https://www.bunnings.com.au/electric-scooter-130w-foldable-b…

      i like the way you're thinking, i wouldnt pay for one but i'll take one for free..

    • +4

      Probably an idea to return back and pocket $500 cash 🤔

    • Buy, get the $200 rebate, then give it away to someone you don’t like! Profit!

  • +7

    200w limit though, most stuff seems to be 250w doesnt it?

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