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Gigabyte B650M AORUS ELITE AX ICE Wi-Fi mATX AM5 Motherboard $299 Delivered @ Centre Com

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Great AM5 board at a great price. Fastest boot times with Gigabyte and no need to worry about memory training issues. Set XMP/XPRO and thats it. nothing else.
Also according to the HUB YouTube review its got one of the coolest running VRM's.. this board is Vs 3 equivalent to the black version so rock solid reliable mine's been perfect for the past 6 months.

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  • -1

    isn't this too expensive ? just saw a Z890 deal for $250, aren't there any equivalent cheap motherboards for AMD?

    • White carries a premium. Honestly just pay a bit more and get a B850 from Asrock

      • Do you mean a bit less ?

        ASRock have a B850 with a PCIe5 slot for $260 https://cplonline.com.au/asrock-b850m-pro-a-wifi-motherboard… - not sure why this Gigabyte board is $40 more ?

        • +5

          6 heat pipes + large aluminum heat sink cooling a 12x2x2 VRM setup
          Vs
          Small aluminum heat sink cooling a 8x1x1 VRM setup

        • +3

          Chipeset isn't everything, the Gigabyte in the post has a better VRM + heatsink, comes in white colour (seems to be pretty popular) and has some more quality of life features like the integrated IO shield.

          • +2

            @maimai: And yet is pcie 4.0. I would get a B850 for around the same price.

          • @maimai: @CHUNITHM Luminous
            @vid_ghost

            Do the VRMs etc matter much for lower-end CPUs ? I'm imagining you can run more basic Ryzen CPUs fine on the Asrock board, vs trying to run a 170W Ryzen 9 ?

            • +1

              @Nom: Asrock board is fine for all CPUs but may run a little hot with a 7950X or 9950X..

              Some people are complaining about failure rate being bad with Asrock on AM5 were it was rock solid on AM4.

              Having to use settings like contex restore in bios to speed up DDR5 memory training on cold boots to make the PC boot into windows faster sux
              MSI board do this too

              Only Gigabyte and ASUS have figured out how to manage DDR5 boot times to be inline with DDR4 without the need to enable any settings in bios.

              I value rock solid stability so i went with Gigabyte even though i exclusively used MSI boards for my AM4 platforms last time i had a Gigabyte board was with an intel i5 2600 CPU :) ha so far so good.

              • +1

                @vid_ghost: I've got an ATX-sized Asrock B850 in the system I built early this month. I cold boot it every morning, and it only takes 14 seconds to get to the login screen. The only bios settings I've touched is enabling the EXPO profile for my memory.

              • @vid_ghost: For DDR5-5600 and even DDR5-5800, even if you turn off memory context restore, most AM5 motherboards, including Asrock ones should boot quite fast. It is DDR5-6000 and above that becomes an issue.

                Gigabyte and Asus surely would offer memory context restore. A famous youTuber tells people to turn it off. The reason is simple, one of the other setting he recommends causes memory context restore to not work properly on majority of AM5 boards. However, he shouldn't recommend turning off that other setting because that messes around with memory voltage when you restart the system (not his fault because that BIOS setting is poorly named).

                To me, if an AM5 system's memory context restore doesn't work properly (i.e. cold boot with memory context restore would lead to occasional Windows blue screen), then it is not a stable system (need to drop RAM speed / timings probably). You don't have to use it, but if you use it and things are flaky, then your system is not setup right (Incorrect BIOS settings, RAM compatibility issue or timings too aggressive).

                I have mixed experience with Gigabyte. Gigabyte loves introduce several revisions of the same board and cut corners in newer revisions (including reducing BIOS ROM size on some AM4 boards, changing LAN chip etc…). Had a GB board with dual BIOS which loses BIOS settings when the PC is turned off for a few weeks. It's not the brand that matters, it depends on the board.

                The Asrock AM4 X570S board I have is slow booting up (slow BIOS). Slower than my B650 AM5 and, B550 AM4 systems.

                • @netsurfer: DDR5-6000 CL30 two Gigabyte board's.. no need to do anything but enable expo and thats it.. boots faster then my DDR4 AM4 boards did

                  • @vid_ghost: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U69GBIkY2KU&t=235s

                    X670 Arous Elite, about 10 seconds (which is considered quite good for AM5). That's slower than my AM4 B550 based system. I know with memory context restore, most AM5 system boot drops down to 2-3 seconds.

                  • @vid_ghost: Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX Motherboard Tweaks

                    First tip indicates change Memory Context Restore from Auto the Enabled. After it is turned on, the next boot still does a memory training (25 seconds to go past BIOS). With newer AGESA version, the memory training time is reduced quite a fair bit. B650 Eagle AX memory DDR5 training performance is in the norm.

                    Also, I watched the video I linked in my previous comment again. He did indicate it is not the very first boot with memory training (so that performance is with context restore). I wouldn't say it is the fastest AM5 boot (it seems to be on the slow side). Perhaps DDR5-8000 does take a bit longer even with context restore. However, if he was indeed running DDR5-8000 on that PC, then I am impressed that he got DDR5-8000 running on an AM5 system.

    • MSI PRO B650M-A WIFI $178 also from centre com.
      This gigabyte has better vrm, a few more usb ports and supports gen5 on one of its m.2 slots.
      Msi has one more pcie 3 x1 slot.
      Otherwise both are same in terms of feature set (low-mid range).

      • The MSI board doesn't have the USB 3.2 gen 2x2 port (20Gbps). While most people probably don't care, to get that, the add-on card will set you back ~$50 and take up the PCIe x4 slot.

        MSI, for B650, elected not to include PCIe gen 5 m.2 support for their affordable boards. Asrock is the only one that puts that in their low end boards. PCIe gen 3 x1 is a bit disappointing also because low end Asrock boards put PCIe gen 4 x1 in (but most x1 cards only support up to PCIe gen 3 so probably doesn't matter much).

  • Regardless of which B650M board you intend to get (or already have), best to upgrade your BIOS firmware to the latest as pretty much the big 4 motherboard makers have updated BIOS to the latest AGESA and improve memory compatibility support.

    For newly purchased boards, it is important to update the BIOS to the latest quickly. Really old version of AGESA and old BIOS are known to take a long time to do memory training, especially on DDR5-6000 or above.

    • Easy to do with Bios Flashback

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