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The Anycubic S1 non combo, printer only, has come down to $510 with eBay plus.
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ANYCUBIC Kobra S1 3D Printer $542.30 ($510.40 with eBay Plus) Delivered @ Anycubic eBay
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just bought Adventurer 5M from last deal, pretty happy for my 1st printer, should I I upgrade? thanks
If you already have the 5M and it does all you need, no. If you don't already have one, and are considering between the two I'd say get the S1.
I just wanted the convenience of not having to change filaments all the time which is why I got it with the ACE. The additional dryer feature makes it worth getting considering a four roll filament dryer already goes for north of $200.Buy the enclosure kit off ali and print the frame for your 5m
@Kangarookiddd: I did, got the kit off Amazon for $70. Brings it to $400-ish, but will still gladly pay the extra for the S1.
Almost got the 5M, but the boss wants 4 colour printing. What is a good price for the combo?
Thanks, nabbed one. Seem to get good feedback.
Word on the street is with all the tariffs coming in, 3D printers could get more expensive in the short term, so no time for my usual procrastination!
Word on the street is with all the tariffs coming in, 3D printers could get more expensive in the short term, so no time for my usual procrastination!
there was an article about that which would apply to USA market due to the tariff..
there is another possibility that since china can't sell to the USA market
there will be excess of 3D printers (and other goods) which may end up making the 3D printers cheaper everywhere else..Not sure which would be correct outcome
Nice. Make sure to do a firmware update to the latest when it lands.
how can i apply my ebay plus? it only shows 828 after 20% off
the boss wants what the boss wants…
just please.. for the love of all that is fair in this world.. stay the fropanity away from bamboo labs
what's wrong with bamboo lab? though that their printers are very friendly for beginners?
Yeah why? I was under the impression they are currently the best.
They are good.. but have shown their dirty, money-grabbing hands when it comes to their business practices.
If it weren't for the community backlash/outrage & competition, they'd have locked down software, made you pay subscriptions, even the printing material by now (firmware inspection showed that they had code
Not to mention spying on everything you print: come up with some wizz-bang design that took you 120hours to perfect? boom - their IP now
I have an A1 and A1 mini. Super happy with both, I don't think the current level of outrage is warranted.
But it is something to keep an eye on.
If they have start charging per print then i will be putting them both in LAN only mode.
I don't think the current level of outrage is warranted.
it is the outrage that caused them to back down for now for their current printer
but it is no guaranteed they won't try it again in their next printer…if they did this and people still happily kept buying then this is not good since other companies may follow the same business practice
This is what happened with Apple
when they removed SD card slot, headphone jack, phone charger…Samsung mocked them but then followed them since it didn't affect Apple's sales (and actually created a new market for Apple with the Airpods)
I am genuinely considering between the Anycubic Kobra S1 or the Bambu Labs P1S. This is for a work related project and the exact cost of the unit isn't a problem for the budget I've been allocated to work with for getting a 3D printer up and running.
Why would I consider the Kobra S1 over the P1S when the P1S seems to offer much more and justifies the price gap?
Genuinely curious here and not attacking you. The general narrative from people against Bambu Labs seems to be that {Bambu Labs == closed sourced and Apple-like}, but I can't seem to find actual examples of negatives to their printers or business practices that raise red flags?
- I can find a lot of genuine positives for Bambu Lab printers and how they are ahead of the curve on a lot of things.
- Daisy chaining multiple AMS is very interesting for what we might end up doing with the 3D printer at my workplace.
- All the spare parts are even available on AliEx from different sources, so I am not sure if the closed ecosystem is a real issue.
- MakerWorld is a beast of a website and the pre-baked GCODE for Bambu Labs printers is just amazing. The convenience is on a whole other level because of the ease of use here. If I need to print a random supporting model quickly to add onto our bigger project deliverable, then I can do that very quickly without even getting a slicer up.
There is a massive divide between pro- vs anti- Bambu Labs.
Have I overlooked a glaring issue with Bambu Labs here? I might not be looking into the right things in my naive research done to date.
My understanding of like a week of researching printers around this price point - there was a forced firmware update at some point that caused massive backlash obviously, privacy concerns over forced use of the cloud with new firmware, locking down newer printers to the official bambu firmware. I personally don't see this leading to a slippery slope where the company basically commits suicide by charging for prints.
I ended up ordering the A1 + AMS lite yesterday because I just want to print things and not f- around, however I will say this printer does look like a good deal but I don't regret going for the bed slinger over core x+y because I want to use makerworld + the A1 has a proven track record of reliability.
One of my other options was the Elegoo Centauri Carbon but they totally screwed aussies on the price for no apparent reason and there is a big shipping delay + teething issuesI've had the P1S for about 6 months, before that I had an Anycubic Mega -S.
The P1S was just like unboxing a regular appliance - minimal assembly and you're guided through every step of the process. It simply works.
Obviously any printer of this generation is going to absolutely destroy something like an old Ender clone, but the P1S with AMS just blew my mind in terms of print quality and ease of use.
Yes there is a bit of fear surrounding Bambu potentially forcing updates etc. but it's up to the individual to determine how much risk they take IRT that. Personally, I am using LAN only mode, and if they decide to get rid of that I'll be pretty annoyed. But I think they've seen the backlash that even hinting at that has caused.
From my experience with the A1, I love it…. but only if we're talking about the hardware.
They've messed up their print queue servers and forced every? online printer to start printing…. which was fun for the people that ended up with broken nozzles and a lot of spaghetti. We can only hope that it doesn't happen again.
They've promised adding direct ip connections to BambuStudio, and failed to deliver.
It took them years to get this working, with it being the most requested feature on their github, and when they finally did implement it, it was only for select printers.
The only way to get LAN Only working is to have a router/firewall that doesn't block UPnP/multicast SSDP (which noone should be doing), and have it on the same vlan (which makes the printer useless for anyone running this in a corporate network)That all said.. OrcaSlicer with LAN Only mode seems to work now for me (as long as i enter the access code every time), and I'm able to hook it up to home assistant for remote monitoring and control.
Many of the old 3d printer users see Bambu as riding on the coat tails of others success. Where everything was open. You could swap parts from manufacturers and upgrade your device on your own. The development and code were all open for advancement.
These users seem bitter about Bambu not sharing these advancements back to the community. Maybe the one thing they did introduce was input shaping for movement of the device while printing.
There are concerns for the information being sent back to Bambu cloud, like the names of the prints you are making, the entire gcode that gets uploaded and other meta data on what your printer is doing. Although I think some of this will lead back to the potential tracking of 3d printed firearms.
But in my opinion the experience that Bambu has offered is exemplary. I have gone from having no knowledge of the field to having good knowledge. I am no means an expert, but I do watch alot of videos from people who are, even if they have bad opinions of Bambu and their business practice.
I would recommend the P1S to you in this case, with some caveats. As others have said use Lan mode if it is for business and want to send models directly to the printer without bambu's cloud.
As you mentioned the number of spare parts and 3rd party spare parts is huge. This comes from the volume of printers Bambu have sold. (millions in the last two years). This has rapidly changed the 3D printing landscape.
There is a youtuber called Fauxhammer who wraps it up, "I want a 3D printing hobby, not a 3D printer hobby"
If you want to watch another couple of great youtubers on the subject you can't go past two Australians Teaching Tech, and Makers Muse
Many of the old 3d printer users see Bambu as riding on the coat tails of others success.
Bambu has shown their real intention that this is what they want to do and did do for the future printers ..
If people kept buying their printers (when they introduced that shitty firmware update) would send a signal that it is OK to do that..
This would be like what happen with Apple when they removed SD card slot, headphone jack, phone charger…
at first many companies (e.g. Samsung) mocked them and there was some outrage but the Apple users still kept buying the apple phonesNow look how at where we are now with phones..
There is no included phone charger anymore and the prices are still high and possibly increasing each few generations models..Maybe the one thing they did introduce was input shaping for movement of the device while printing.
Don't think bambu invented input shaping, they just incorporated it into their printers.
https://www.google.com/search?q=input+shaping+did+bambu+inve…
These users seem bitter about Bambu not sharing these advancements back to the community.
I don't think the outrage was just about them not sharing these advancements.
Level 2 Jeff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kfolYkRNMLouis Rossmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIyaDD8onIE@pinkybrain: If Apple still included a charger in the box would you even use it to charge your phone at this point? A lot of people have moved on to other brands like Anker and Ugreen (charger market has exploded because apple stopped including chargers) so I see Apple's removal of the charger from the box as a really good thing and they did it at a time when USB A was still the main format so they really have reduced e-waste. Head phone jacks are the same story. Apple never had an SD card slot so they could charge $150 for an extra 20c worth of RAM.
Bambu wants an enclosed ecosystem where they make you buy their filament and can see what you print. This is more like HP with ink printers than Apple with accessories.
@Elyxar: I think the point is that market leaders can set a precedent of what they can get away with and the competitors will see that and follow suit (e.g soldered RAM, non-replaceable batteries). Eventually all the competing products end up converging to the same thing and we end up with less consumer choice (e.g try finding a phone with a physical keyboard these days.)
@fatpotato123: Absolutely a path that is not good for consumers. The ink printer market is still heading that way with Brother now lost to it.
I think the point is that market leaders can set a precedent
yeap
you got the main point of what I was trying to say…In USA, apple sells more phones than other brands but no so internationally..
however they still set precedent (which did receive backlash but not enough to see their drop in sales and/or they didn't care)…
and as a result Samsung saw that and copied them..
If Apple still included a charger in the box would you even use it to charge your phone at this point?
Yes…
People still have heaps of older apple devices that still use to charge..
The chargers could also to be used for other purposes…Many people also like to have multiple chargers in many rooms..
so more chargers the better (whether is older less watt or higher watt)Even the 12 to 15W can still charge iphone 16 decently just not as fast as the 20W..but then end time is very close
since at 90%, the 20W starts to slow down more while the 12 to 15W starts catching up.. etc..Check the youtube tests..
If you look at what is happening now, average consumers who buy new iphone,
need to buy a new charger e.g. 20W if they want to charge fastest..
and they usually end up buying Apple (since they view it as reliable and suitable for their iphone etc)..So apple just made more money by selling them a charger..
For iphone users, Apple charger is probably the most bought charger (not Ugreen or Anker etc).A lot of people have moved on to other brands like Anker and Ugreen (charger market has exploded because apple stopped including chargers)
Cause they had no choice..
Nevertheless, many homes still using the old apple chargers (to charge ipads and other devices) cause they don't need / want to waste money buying extra chargers..
so it was not thrown out so what e-waste you talking about?Why you assume every person would throw away a charger that is still working?
so I see Apple's removal of the charger from the box as a really good thing and they did it at a time when USB A was still the main format so they really have reduced e-waste.
Doesn't matter what you see it as ..
it was fake excuse to increase their profits
-no more included charger
-can stack more phones to be shipped etc..Also apple still includes a charger with their ipad, so what is your reasoning for that?
Head phone jacks are the same story
They removed the headphone jack cause they wanted to sell airpods
They created a problem and sold you the solution..
It has been very successful.. created a new very profitable market for them.And what about all the e-waste, when people threw away all their old headphones (some really expensive ones)
Not to mention all the new e-waste of dead airpods..when it can no longer be recharged..Apple never had an SD card slot so they could charge $150 for an extra 20c worth of RAM.
Yeah I got that wrong..
They never had SD card in their phones..
they removed so much I mistakenly added SD card removal as well..I think they did set precedent to removed floppy drive from their Macs though..
They also continued to sell 64GB for a long time
cause it would get people to buy the more expensive 128GB or higher model since people start justifying to get the more better model for like $100+ more at the time
For a business things like forced obsolescence and disabling third party slicer connections are probably not a major concern. Sending everything through their cloud servers might be an issue if you have data residency requirements (of course you could enable LAN mode, but then you won't get firmware updates which might also be a compliance issue).
I prefer Bambulab, RIP anycubic.
Is this worth it if you only printing one colour
The linked unit doesn't come with the ACE so you'll be limited to one colour anyway but at $510-$540 for an enclosed CoreXY, I'd say it's a good deal considering it competes with the Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro and Elegoo Centauri Carbon which go for more.
does Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro have ACE addon option ie multicolor printing?
what is the main features this has over the Flashforge Adventurer 5M Pro (that is sold more cheaper with the same ebay deal) ?
Nah, no multi-colour support on the 5M Pro - the 5X exists for that purpose but is not enclosed.
The ability to add the ACE, a bigger build plate (220x220 on the 5M Pro vs 250x250 on the S1) and a better display are the main advantages of the S1 over the 5M Pro. If the 5M Pro is like the 5M, then the fan will continue to run even in idle whereas the S1 is silent. Also, if you care about the app, the Anycubic app is definitely better than the Flashforge one.
Sorry I was comparing Flashforg Adventurer 5M 3D for $330 or this for $510 only single colour.
Yeah so the S1 is closer to the 5M Pro than it is to the 5M. The 5M is a great printer if you don't intend to print the enclosure or care for the additional features above.
I've had this for a few weeks now with the ACE. >100h using PLA+, Silk PLA+ and PETG without issue post 2.5.1.6 when combined with the High Quality preset in Anycubic Slicer Next. I had the Flashforge Adventurer 5M before this - I'd easily pay the extra and get the S1 for the better display, enclosure, larger plate and fan that turns off when not in use.