Interest in if people prefer download speed vs upload speed
What nbn Speed Would You Prefer out of These Options
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Last edited 26/04/2025 - 11:42 by 1 other user
Last edited 26/04/2025 - 11:42 by 1 other user
Poll Options
- 94100/40
- 10250/25
- 232250/100
- 4311000/50
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I’d pick 1000/50 or even 250/25 if we could get it here. Outer Eastern suburbs of Melbourne, fttc, best we can get is 100/20.
Outer Eastern suburbs of Melbourne, fttc, best we can get is 100/20.
This is incorrect. I used to have FTTC in when I was closer to city and it was limited to 100/40. But I have HFC (some houses even got FTTP) in outer suburbs now, it is awesome and getting 1000/50
10Gbps/10Gbps like a first world country should be 🤷♂️. But i’ll settle for 1000/50 😞
You're not living in South Korea mate. In fact not just the internet is not "first world". Transport, is a joke. Metro is like 30 years behind HK. Infrastructure is 50 years behind Dubai (Won't use Mainland China because there's alot of hits and misses with their construction). Malaysia and Singapore is somewhat ahead of Australia in Infrastructure as well.
Also compared to Dubai, we're 100 years behind in terms of the State and the People benefitting from the inherent natural resource wealth of the country. Compare Saudi Aramco vs Australia's piddly royalties and mining/oil/gas lease fees. Which is probably linked to being behind in terms of infrastructure.
unlike other first world problems you’d mentioned, internet is a different issue. For those with fttp, we already have the capacity to go 10/10 except the nbn monopoly has kept those for juicy $ from enterprise businesses.
What devices do you have that could even support or utilize 2.5Gbps?
What use cases would you have for 10Gbps?
Even just getting a router or switch with 10Gbps ports would quite expensive.you’re talking about a chicken and egg problem here. The high costs are because its a niche market for that kind of needs, if 1-10Gbps is the norm it will be a different story.
as for devices my pc, nas and mac are all capable of going 10Gbps and the only reason I haven’t done so is because of petty last mile speeds.
1Gbps NICs have been common on PCs for close to 2 decades now and yet there is barely any proper use cases on a LAN for a home user let alone 1Gbps internet speeds.
So those devices support 10Gbps but you would still need the switching/wireless to be 10Gbps to make use of that internet speed and realistically what use cases are there for 1Gbps internet vs 10Gbps?
Like on the LAN sure if you're moving stuff to and from your NAS, or editing very large media files.That one time you download a 100GB game and it takes 15mins and you can speed that up? Assuming there aren't any other bottlenecks such a disk and CDN speeds.
Don't get me wrong I like that these speeds are possible but the use cases for faster internet haven't caught up which kind of makes me sad, I remember seeing an Optus 5G talk back at Cisco Live 2015 when it was being planned which admittedly is a bit of marketing fluff but they were talking about real time VR, much higher resolution displays, and all these new use cases that would come with it which just hasn't been realized at all with the increased speed.
Agreed, they have this in a lot of places in Canada and it's quite cheap.
The usage-to-speed ratio isn't linear; as speeds up, usage doesn't keep up so backhaul and CVC aren't a linear equation. You won't use 10x data on 10Gbps, unlikely to even use 1.5x realistically. Just means things download faster.
NBNCo is adding a new termination device in September that will support 2.5Gbps plans and has a 10Gbps port for future use. Apparently prices are all moving down a tier, so 1000/50 will become 2500/250 or something from memory.
There is three new NTDs.
FTTP: 4 port (1 x 10GbE port and 3 x 2.5GbE ports).
FTTP: single port 2.5GbE.
HFC: single port 2.5GbE.There is no 2500/250 speed tier. The new speed tiers are this…
Old Speed Tiers New Speed Tiers nbn Technology Type 100/20 500/50 FTTP and HFC 250/25 750/50 FTTP and HFC 1000/50 1000/100 FTTP and HFC — 2000/100 HFC — 2000/200 FTTP — 2000/500 FTTP Got that confused - yeah 2000/200
Haven't heard of the 2000/500 speedThe new termination device was only rumours and leaks when I heard about it, didn't know there's more official info now - cheers for that info. Do you know on eligibility for the multiport one? Is it still just 'if you have multiple gigabit connections' like previously rumoured?
@Dyl: 2000/500 is meant to be for businesses. I reckon select providers will sell it to anyone like they do now with 1000/400.
I don't know if nbn has changed the eligibility. The leak said the 4 port fibre NTD is $100 for home use. $0 if you have multiple residential plans (no speed mentioned) and $0 for businesses on 500/200 and faster.
$0 if you have multiple residential plans
Guess I gotta call Launtel and see if I can get them on 2 ports… They’re on UNI-D 2 right now, hope I can park them on 1 too, so I can save $100 aha
@2027: You can have Launtel on UNI-D1 and D2. nbn could have changed the criteria. I'd wait for the final outcome in Sept before doing anything.
That is good to hear and the way it should be. I can finally look into an offsite nas backup 😆
I'm currently on 1000/400 with ABB which is pretty good.
How much do you pay?
Aussie BB 1000/400 $179/m for 6 months ($199/m ongoing). Static IP is included.
Leaptel 1000/400 $165/m for 12 months ($180/m ongoing). Optional Static IP is an extra $10/m.
nbn 1000/400 wholesale price is dropping from $125/m to $91.93/m in 5 months. ISP retail price should get cheaper.
ISP retail price should get cheaper.
It should but ISPs will pocket the majority of the price reduction.
@kaleidoscope: I don't know if it's in full however the faster speed tiers have dropped a lot.
250/100 was $209/m in 2020. Now it's $85/m for 6 months ($100/m ongoing) with Superloop if you have an ABN and $110/m ($120/m ongoing) with Leaptel without an ABN.
1000/400 was $699/m and $429/m in 2020. Now it's $165/m with a deal or $180/m or $199/m ongoing.
1000/50 was $150/m to $180/m. Now you can get it for $99/m ongoing.
No real point is there? $85/mo for 1000/50 + $5-10/mo for a VPS is more effective
@tenpercent: Essentially can be used for anything you would need high uploads for I guess, mine's a media server though with rclone mounted online storage
I would like to see higher uploads on consumer connections, but I don't think it's a must. Too many solutions are available that sync as you go (GoogleDrive / OneDrive for example).
The higher uploads aren't really useful unless you're uploading video content or something. If it is video content, you could in theory still stream it to a server running rtmpdump as you go and dump it to an rclone mounted OneDrive (or to the local server if there's enough storage), then edit it remotely and upload. Bit of a crappy workaround though. Only works for screen capture this way though; bit harder to stream live camera footage. Either way, editing and exporting still likely takes longer than the upload process; uploads are likely faster than encoding speeds.
Lol
All seems pointless, when not factoring cost into it.
im paying extra for 100/40 right now, the upload makes a difference
you dont need/use that 40 all the time… but it means you dont have that stutter now and then during video calls
100 download i have no issue with, but can feel its the minimum now with all the media and online content now
You really shouldn't experience stuttering on 20Mbps, video calls only use ~5-10Mbps at 1080p, if even
Remember that you will rarely get the full advertised speeds. I pay for 1000/50 and am contemplating going for the 1000/400 that's on offer. Not because I need 1000/400, but because I need 500/50 and to actually get 500/50. I typically get around 800/40 at good times, but it bottoms out at 350/10 at its worst. FTTP right now which is better than the HFC I was on previously (100/5 at times), but the infrastructure we have nationally is all kinds of garbage.
FTTP speeds shouldn't be dropping that low.
Who is your provider?
What router do you own?
Are you using wired ethernet?NBNis overprovisioned now, I get 255/27 or 950/56ish when upgrading for the day. You shouldn't see speeds that low, except maybe peak times but even then it's only downloads impacted.
this poll has turned out super interesting. I've been dealing with Superloop and the partner manager said they are trying to push everyone to 1000/50 seems like thats the appetite
Yeah 1000/50 comes up the most on social media sponsored posts.
Yeah makes sense if you know enough about how the NBN works.
You'll see other providers doing the same with heavy discounts.
The customer pays the most and the RSP pays the least since most people who signup to the 1Gbps plan are not using close to 1Gbps all the time.The customer pays the most and the RSP pays the least since most people who signup to the 1Gbps plan are not using close to 1Gbps all the time.
Some of them may even be wifi-only and not even be fully capable of pulling 1gbit downstream on their devices.
Harder to troubleshoot end-user equipment in regards to speeds, which is why they're putting a speed test to run within the NTD itself.
NBN is trying to, not sure about Superloop.
Superloop has upgrade days (5/mo) so you can sit on 250/25 and upgrade to 1000/50 5 days a month. No real point having 1000/50 with them.
500/200
Need 400/400
Will NBN ever release better upload speeds for residential plans? Offering 1000 down but crappy 50 up is super annoying.
The Home Hyperfast tier (ie. the 2000mbit downstream one) will have 100mbit upload on HFC and 200mbit upload on FTTP.
It will require a new NTD installed, which will likely trigger an appointment for those on FTTP. (I don't think NBNCo would ever trust those to be self-installed.)
Not sure if they'll offer self-installation for the HFC one, but in theory it should be plug and play after activating and assigning the unit to the location.
See my comment below about the new nbn Home Hyperfast speed coming later this year
Its not NBN. most resellers dont offer it.
I am on Launtel and have 500/200.
They do offer 1000/400 as well.
I want more upload at this point. 100mbps down is fast enough for me but wish I had more up
Remember that there will be a free NBN speed upgrade later in the year, so to benefit you need to be on one of the plan speeds which will get the boost.
The biggest increase is in the 100/20 speed which will go to 500/50. See original NBN release below.
https://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/media-centre/…
Given we are only 4 to 5 months away, I wouldn't bother signing up for anything other than a 100/20 plan at this point.
Note #1: NBN are providing this increase free to the retailer, on the expectation it will be passed on free to the consumer, however, there is no guarantee all retailers will honour this.
Note #2: NBN has announced a new "nbn Home Hyperfast" speed will become available at the same time, which will be 2000/200!! (only available to consumers on FTTP). 2000/100 (for consumers on HFC).
i agree, 500/50 will be enough, i think atm 1000/50 is nice to have on tap.
If you live in a user base greater than 4 you'll probably need something better than 100/40 assuming the parents are net heavy. Otherwise 250 is fine for everything above that. On avg people under utilise their connection speeds. 1000 is for sickofants - no offense intended, you know industrious residential/commercial use.
None of these. 50/20 or 100/20 is enough for me.
If cost wasn't a factor I would prefer upload too, but it's so much cheaper to just get a 1Gbps VPS for like $5/mo in Sydney rather than paying extra for NBN upload speeds (or a little extra for in Melbourne). It's lower ping too as it's not making a return trip to Melbourne to route to others.
Even though CVC is bidirectional and the uploads are barely used, NBNCo charges ridiculous wholesale prices for upload speeds.
Note 1000/50 is becoming 1000/100 in September, 100/20 is becoming 500/50 and 250/25 750/50. They're also adding a new termination device with 2000/200 on offer and a port that supports 10Gbit (but no offerings planned for it yet).
1000/400 is going to be ~$92 wholesale, currently $125/mo, was $230/mo last year. Should see providers able to offer it for around $110/mo then, if not less. They're slowly bringing us higher upload speeds.
Recently switched from 50/20 to 100/20 or whatever the plans are and frankly I don't notice any difference. Only upgraded because the price difference was negligible.
This might mean your wifi is your bottleneck. Rule 101 of networking - the network can only run at the speed of the slowest component!
I'd love the 1000/50 to be 1000/200 even.
Hell, I'd even be happy with 800/200 if I had to sacrifice some bw
50 upload is so shithouse man.
I'd definitely prefer 1000/50 but if there's a big price gap, I'd go with 250/100.
I've got a 1000/50 connection (had it for a couple of years). I did a speed test recently and found my speed was maxing at around 100/50. After troubleshooting I discovered dodgy wiring on my home router.
Anyway.. Turns out i can't actually tell the difference between 1000 and 100 in day to day life.
I'd love faster upload speed though. I have a synology nas and use the photo app on it. When I try to stream a video from it while out and about, the buffering kills me.
2000/500
Which I hope to upgrade in September.
I'd prefer 2Gbps/1Gbps, so we can at least reach the level of some developing SEA country
Easily have to go with 1000/50. Obviously I would like to have more on the upload side but 50 is typically enough. It would be nice to download games at 10 times the speed I have currently. Games are getting so big these days that even my 4TB HDD and 2TB SSD are basically full so I have to delete games to free up space. With 1000 down I would be less hesitant to delete large games as I could redownload them fairly easily.
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250/100 is my preference, but only because I transfer a lot of files offsite and have a homelab.