For those looking for something slightly more up-market than OzBargain's favourite Esatto heat pump dryer, both The Good Guys and their parent company JB Hi-Fi have the Bosch Series 4 heat pump dryer reduced to $888. TGG offers me a price of $862 as a price match; YMMV.
Looking at PriceHipster, it goes on sale for this price a few times a year. Two weeks ago TGG had it priced at over $1500.
So all the stickers that say "made in Germany" on the series 8 are bogus?
No, they only advertise the Series 8 Washing Machines as Made In Germany.
The heat pump dryers are all manufactured in Poland.
They probably screw on the door in Germany. Just over the road from the factory in Poland.
Lol so negative..
B/S/H have so many factories, they have at least 3 in Poland and the one the manufactures Heat Pumps is in Lower Silesia and the Series 8 German Washing Machines are manufactured in Nauen, Germany.
The factories they own around the world are shared with their other brands such Bosch, Siemens, Neff and Gaggenau and internationally they also have Thermadore and that is just part of their home appliances not including their other divisions such as Bosch Automotive, Sensors, Mobility, Rexroth etc.
p.s yes I am an appliance nerd.
SA : up to $377 rebate if you have pension card etc
sorry how does this work? have Pensioner Concession Card in VIctoria
SA. South Australia
Anyone have any experience with this model? I see Choice rated it pretty poorly.
This is why I don't bother with Choice any longer.
This is an excellent appliance, we're very happy with ours.
Thanks! Yeah, I’ve never regretted buying against a choice recommendation. Do you have any other thoughts/comments about this model?
Recommend avoiding - takes forever to dry the clothes and when I had Bosch service come out they recommend to not use the sensor dry features but just 20min heat dry. Problem is that it takes about 3-4hrs per load and you need to clean the filter after each 20min cycle.
Exactly the problem with heat pump dryers.
The lwnjs say you have to have them. If you have a lot of solar panels, you want to dry as many loads as possible in the sun hours.
So heat pump dryers are only good if your paying for the power.
Go a conventional dryer
Not all heat pump dryers are the same. Had the LG and it was hopeless, got a Haier and it dries faster than my old conventional.
While there is some logic to your statement, on the whole I disagree.
Besides electricity use, there are other advantages to a heat pump dryer - they are much more gentle on your clothes, for example.
And if you do look at the electricity use, a heat pump dryer is many time over more efficient than a traditional dryer, so you need to consider the opportunity cost of utilising that electricity on a traditional dryer - what else could you be doing with that electricity? For example, you could be using it to charge your EV, heat the house (which a traditional dryer may also have a pretty good crack at doing itself depending on your house)…
@NinjaChicken: I've got 17.5kw inverter, and soon in Victoria in Fit will be effectively zero. In fact wholesale sale rates are negative, so it makes sense to use more power.
Seems stupid really.
That said the gentle clothing treatment is valid
@itshammer: We have an Electrolux model (EDH903R9WB), prior that we hada Siemens (Bosch) that died, it was rubbish compared to the Electrolux.
Our Siemens curled everything up into a ball as it did not have a reverse cycle, nothing dried.
The Electrolux will do a full load of towels from our 10kg washer in about 2 hours, which is pretty good going in my opinion.
Solar + Heat Pump Dryer has basically meant we have stopped hanging washing on the line.
100% we had a series 4, ended up selling it once we had kids.. probably ok for a household of 1-2 people when you can afford to have each load take 4hrs, but completely useless once kids come along.. and yes with solar much better off with a conventional dryer. Cant dry towels or thick clothing either
I've got a Haier 8 star energy rating heat pump dryer and have currently got 2 guests living with us (fam from overseas), so that's 4 adults and 2 kids under the one roof, and I had no issues whatsoever washing and drying absolutely everything including 2 sets of bed sheets this weekend, all free with solar.
The only time I could imagine my dryer taking 4 hours is if I did a massive load of towels that had been washed on a 600rpm spin cycle or something… that Bosch much really be slow.
Not all heat pump dryers are that slow. I'd have turfed the Bosch by now if it took that long as well.
Why did they advise you not to use sensor dry? If you use it. they don't take that long to dry.
Most of my clothes are dry within 2hrs or less.
The filters don't need cleaning that often either. I clean my lint trap every 2-3 sessions.
Heat pump driers come into their own in the winter months. If you don't have ducting out of your house with a conventional dryer, all that hot humid air is just pumped into your laundry and will cause damage to your walls and doors potentially.
If you open your laundry door to let the hot air out, you let cold air in, especially at night.
Because sensor heating doesn’t get hot enough to dry clothes. With a large family I do 2 loads per day and with solar and free electricity for 2 hours as part of an EV plan I think a conventional drier is actuallly more cost effective as then I can do two loads in the free 2 hr window.
We bought the series 8 for $1400 2 months ago, also made is Poland.
We previously had an Asko (still have it if anyone wants it for free in Melb).
The Heat Pump dryer does take longer, but its near 1/4 elec of what the Asko used.
Its way gentler on the clothes as well, and bugger all lint lost.
Happy with our purchase.
Where abouts in melb? tried PMing you, but wouldnt allow me.
GoodGuys
Depending on the suburb I might be keen
Yes I spent a fair bit of time researching the different Bosch models. The series 8 have issues with door hinges, the 6 I think also - or maybe that was the electric panel.
This have stood the test of time better.
They take shitloads longer to dry than a normal dryer which is frustrating for sheets and towels, but the draw a fraction of the power for the same drying power and you can put everything in - things that would easily shrink in a traditional dryer.
Plus no humidity in your laundry and wet walls…
We bought a heat pump dryer just for the humidity issue. Combined with the Brisbane summer, our conventional dryer left loads of paint peeling off the walls.
Drying time is longer. Regular cleaning of the vents helps though.
If you can duct a conventional dryer to pump the air outside, that might be another option.
Complained about on Facebook groups for doing large things like towels and blankets apparently they ball up, one of the longer run times for units too.
Which is surprising as almost all other Bosch stuff is highly rated.
I've got one and it works fine. About 2-3 hours for normal things like clothes and towels, 3-4 hours for bedsheets.
You can't expect it to dry like a conventional vented because it isn't one. You're trading time for a more gentle drying cycle and significantly reduced electricity efficiency. Sheets will ball up but virtually every machine has this problem because they all spin in one direction, with the exception of a few that have a reverse function but even they will inevitably ball the sheets. Just go and check once an hour and unball them. Once they're moderately dry they don't ball anymore.
I just clean out the lint filter and water after each cycle and I haven't had any problems. Been running it for over 2 years.
*increased efficiency
Ah yes, my mistake that's what I meant haha
Unfortunately not deliverable to my area - QLD 4113
For those in WA, this is $861 via Rick Hart outlet with free delivery.
Didn't realise Rick Hart still existed
https://rickhartoutlet.com.au/products/bosch-series-4-8kg-he…
Standard Delivery:
Our standard delivery service is a drop off only service and does not include installation or removal. This service is free to the Perth Metropolitan Area for all orders over $500.
this is $828 at Appliances Online (priced $878) using $50 referral code.
also note that it doesn’t have Reverse tumble action so the clothes have a higher chance of coming out tangled.
Can’t agree more with the previous comments on Choice about recommendations.
Unfortunately there is no Hybrid Heat Pump option in the Bosch. Only two are Samsung and Beko in Australia. I would go with Beko rather than the Samsung because of Samsungs approach to non-customer service.
Beko also have a 5year warranty on redemption
https://www.beko.com/au-en/home-appliances/tumble-dryer/tumb…
I've never heard of hybrid heat pumps before. Thanks for sharing!
I have a conventional Beko condenser dryer and I've been very satisfied with it. Guess this is something I'll look into next.
What is Hybrid Heat? Is it a combinations of conventional and heat pump drying?
Yep - best of both worlds. You can do a quick dry like vented dryers and then use the heat pump for more efficient loads. Only Samsung and Beko have models in Australia I believe
What a great idea.
Use conventional dryer if you have solar power or need to dry quickly.
and Heat Pump for everything else.
$872 delivered at E&S
How can they have it above rrp before? lol
Is there much difference between series 4 and 8? In need of washer and dryer that stack
You can stack different models. It’s just drilling holes into the top of your washer.
We have this stacked on top of an even older Bosch washer. They’re all fully interchangeable and stacks Le.
Extra cost not worth it for series 8. Tech I spoke to said the series 8 have lots of door issues. Constantly fixing them.
If you are comparing the Bosch Heat Pump dryers, the main things you are paying more for are firstly the look to match the same series washing machine, the efficiency as the entry model heat pumps don't have their Eco Silence drive motor and all the top models will start with the code WQG235 which is available in Series 6 & 8 which gives you an Automatic Self Cleaning Condenser and Reverse Tumble on the bedsheet setting.
Edit:
Washing Machines are very similar but for price point they move the manufacturing to other Bosch factories they own.
Series 2 Event Model is Turkey, Series 4 Poland, Series 6 Spain and Series 8 Germany.
You pay for things like capacity, size of display, spin speed, internal lighting in the drum, iDos (automatic detergent).
@boirganz @Retailing thanks a lot
didnt realise diff versions can stack but wife will definitely want to pay more to have things matching
No worries, I am still in the retail world so feel free to shoot me a direct message if you need help comparing models, brands etc.
@Retailing: Hey, excellent summary of the current state of dryers. What’s the value for money option with reverse tumbling. I have a series 8 washing machine but don’t need to match the dryer to the machine.
I am eying the WQG24201AU
@A Banana4scale: Thanks and no worries,
If you have a Series 8 washing machine then the WQG24201AU is one to go for from a value perspective that matches your washing machine.
You would only save about $100 by going down to the Series 6 which really only difference is the look and you lose the internal led light inside the drum and then it's this Series 4 that has been posted as the entry model which is still 7 star energy rating but they save money on things like the display and look of having the curved facia and a solid plastic door instead of one you can see through.
The WQG235D8AU is the set up, it's about $350 more and you get more efficiency as it has their Eco Silence Drive motor, reverse tumble on the bed sheet setting and the self cleaning condenser (Bottom left filter cleans itself).
Bosch have put things in place in all of their dryers to help with the every day stuff from tangling, which are the fins on the drum being curved and a big cone at the rear of the drum.
It's always the sheets/bedding with ANY heat pump that tangle up and will be why Bosch put reverse tumble on just the bed sheet setting.
I have owned a few brands and it's just the physics of spinning one direction.
Also note that with any heat pump that is really full with a blanket/duvet then naturally the middle will often still be a little bit damp since the garment can't physically rotate and the sensors that detect the moisture are at the front on the inside of the drum ( 2 metal bars ) so when it's finished you just take it out and rotate it and put it back in and it's done shortly after.
For reference to this posted product Series 4, I would still recommend this entry option for this price point as the key components and manufacturing is still Bosch.
Compared to so much product that it outsourced with a good example of Westinghouse heat pumps at this price point not only being made in Asia but they cut corners like not having a secondary filter to protect the condenser fins/coils.
@Retailing: This is super helpful thanks
We are in the market for the combo set (washing machine and dryer)
Looking at the Series 8 for both. Would you recommend the WGG24402AU (washer) and WQG235D8AU (dryer) ?
@gilbert151: No worries,
That is a great setup.
The WGG24402AU is exclusive to The Good Guys as they get the better anti-flood device on their model.
Other retailers get the WGG24401AU which has the standard aqua-stop device.
The only other machine I would consider in this series would be the iDos model WGG244A0AU.
On another note, there is a new Series 8 10KG range available in case someone was not aware.
@Retailing: Awesome thank you - will check out appliencesonline and TGG and see what prices I can get
Haven't purchased a new washing machine in a LONG time so may as well get decent models (same with dryer)
@Retailing: I should ask do you know if there's much difference between the 9kg and 8kg dyrers being models WQG24201AU (9kg) and WQG235D8AU (8kg) ?
$500 difference between the two so ideally cheaper one is ok?
@gilbert151: The capacity is really not much difference with how the dryers are rated, you will notice that the drums are massive compared to how a washing machine in rated.
The difference is the WQG235D8AU has the Eco Silence Drive motor which is same type used on all of the washing machines. It is a brushless motor that uses magnets in order to spin so quieter, durable and more efficient.
You are also paying for the Self Cleaning Condenser which is something Bosch actually invented and other brands are copying, the water tank at the top left will always keep some water in it regardless of if you choose to plumb the dryer as it uses the water to clean to fins/condenser at the bottom left.
The lower models and how most brands work, is you have the secondary sponge filter at the bottom left that you maintain every few uses as it collects the tiny/fine lint that has passed the first door filters.
All heat pumps will have a filter in the door area that you must maintain after every use, it is worth noting that only select brands like Bosch bother to make the door filter multiple layers so there is actually 2 filters in the door which you will notice when you pull them out.
Then you have the reverse tumble feature, which is only on the bed sheet setting. This would also be a bit of a cost to manufacture as you are engaging a gearbox like system to make the drum turn the other direction.
There is usually only about $350 difference between them? Using Appliances Online as an example,
WQG24201AU around $1,200
WQG235D8AU around $1,550
@Retailing: Many thanks, I will stump up and buy the better one and get the bosch combo
Nothing on sale at the moment so might just have to pay the price with appliancesonline
@gilbert151: For what it’s worth, managed to negotiate the WQG235D8AU to $1250 after trying to price match Ovado (may be selling refurbs) https://ovado.com.au/products/bosch-series-8-8kg-heat-pump-d…
Honestly better off spending the money on a good dehumidifier. Air dry clothes inside with the dehumidifier running and they'll dry within 4 hours or so.
Good idea
4 hours is good 🙀?
If you can't wait 4 hours for laundry to dry - I think you need to invest in some more clothes and underwear 😅
It's much faster in summer obviously though
I'd recommend the Beko BDPB8010W over this.
Do You have this?
The previous model (810W). Absolute workhorse. Good build quality. Gets used almost daily. No issue with clothes being damaged, stretched, shrunk etc. 5 year warranty. Pretty quiet. Easy to clean filters.
I actually changed my mind to look at a Beko today! The reverse spin!
Is there a matching washing machine for this?
I have mine stacked on a WGA244U0AU washer. I have the stacking kit with a pull-out shelf built in that I find handy when loading the drier.
I bought the Series 8 Bosch Heat Pump drier recently, and plumbed it in via the drain hose. Was surprised to find the water collecting unit in it still collects and retains water between drying sessions. Apparently for auto-cleaning the condensers etc. My LG heat pump dryer did not do this. Hopefully it does drain the unit itself regularly, as I plumbed it into a drain to avoid having to empty the unit myself! :)
Just for your peace of mind, that is normal.
The tank even when plumbed will hold water to self clean the condenser.
Only applicable to models starting with WQG235.
I've had a WTH8300AU for 2.5 years.
I like it, but you need to use the right settings. The cottons one is good, and dries things well, usually a load take 3.5-4.5 hours. The synthetics setting is a bit crap and leaves things a bit damp - but I think that's the idea.
The great advantage to me over a normal vented drier is that it's not vented, so in my townhouse I can leave the laundry door shut and the room doesn't fill with heat, steam, and dust.
I check the main filter each load and the secondary filter in the condenser every couple of months. You can see into the condenser from the hatch and there is extraordinarily little buildup on the fins, and if there was, I could vacuum it out.
A+ would recommend.
Yep, slightly damp is the idea of the synthetics setting. Cotton is the driest.
I got this last week from Appliances Online for $824 delivered.
This, or Esatto 8kg Heat Pump Dryer EHPD800-W? Any recommendation?
My Esatto 8kg arrived today, very happy with it. Ran a normal 7.5kg washing load, cold, put it into the dryer and it dried everything in 1.5 hours.
There was a towel and a towel matt, the towel matt was the only thing that didn't perfectly dry, but everything else was dry… So maybe the balling up is a problem, but I'd just check regularly.
Uses an insanely small amount of power too, I figure it was 7-800W (I have solar and battery so I can see the power usage of the house).
Thanks for your feedback.
Would this stack with 15% cashback from TopCashback?
https://www.topcashback.com.au/the-good-guys/
(I’m new to using cashback…)
Mine is being tracked. It was weird since yesterday there was no stock for pickup/delivery but I was able to put an order through just then. It is tracked without delivery and without the GST included so you're getting the rebate on 10% less.
Is there another $90 off via TGG StoreCash? Has anyone got that?
Made in poland, same as the series 8 dryers. Great price