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Noirot 2400w Spot Plus Panel Heater 7358-8T $389.99 ($90 off) Delivered @ Costco (Membership Required)

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This product features:

  • Made in France
  • Silent operation (no fans)
  • Built in timer (3/per day & for 7 days)
  • Wall mount or portable (with castor wheels)
  • Lifetime replacement warranty

NOTE: Price includes delivery

$399 from Buy Smarte (Never heard of `em)
$549 from TGG)
$599 from HN & Bing Lee
$485 from Appliance Central

$489 from Amazon, however, has the newer WiFi option (7358-7TPRO) but nowhere in the page mentions anything about "lifetime warranty". There is a listing for a "7358-8" but with a 10 year warranty and priced at $479.

Bought the smaller model (7358-7T, 2000wac) more than 10 years ago from TGG and have returned two faulty units with no problems at all.

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Comments

  • +1

    I've had one of these for some years. They're pretty awesome - excellent thermostat control and heat up quickly. Pricey but I think worth it.

    • this type of heater is literally the most inefficient you can get, and as other commenter has said you can get the same thing at kmart for far less

      • +1

        But the description says energy efficient. How could it be misleading at all!

        Isn't >99% efficiency isn't good? /s

      • Could argue this is literally the most efficient you can get if you're comparing like for like products.

      • Can you elaborate why this is inefficient and therefore what is more efficient? It's converting electrical energy to heat energy with a sensitive thermostat.

        • +2

          @HomebrewFC
          Because this unit (and every other resistive electric heater) only puts 1KW of heat into the room, for every 1KW of electricity it consumes.

          The aircon on your wall can move up to 5KW of heat into the room, for the same 1KW of electricity consumed - it can be as much as 5x the efficiency.

    • +1

      Second this, I had this for a few years (before we got ducted) and it heated up our big bedroom in less than 10 minutes.

  • +3

    Just a simple convection heater with bullshit price point because it's French.
    Just get the Kmart one for $69
    https://www.kmart.com.au/product/convection-heater-with-time…

  • The running costs are outlined here - https://www.olimpiasplendid.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/1…

    I dare say it's been very efficient for us in terms of running costs. Much better than firing up the gas central heating.

    We picked up the 7358-7TPRO 2000W with WiFi. The app is so handy and scheduling is great.

    I wonder if the cheaper Kmart ones are as efficient as these?

    • I wonder if the cheaper Kmart ones are as efficient as these?

      Yes

    • I dare say it's been very efficient for us in terms of running costs.

      It has not.
      It's cost you up to 5x as much as if you'd just used your aircon instead.

      Much better than firing up the gas central heating.

      Definately not - $1 of gas will put more heat into your home than $1 of resistive-electric heating.

      I wonder if the cheaper Kmart ones are as efficient as these?

      All resistive electric heaters have exactly the same efficiency, whether they cost $10 or $500.

      They are the most expensive way to heat your home.

      • +1

        So you telling me that I'm better off running my gas central ducted heating throughout the night, instead of my resistive electric heater to just keep our bedroom at about 16c during bedtime (11pm-7am)?

        • +1

          That depends how your zoning is set up.

          If you can direct your gas heat to that one room only, then yes it will be cheaper than running this heater.

          If you can't do that (ie gas is going to heat every other room too) then you should install a small AC split system into that room for the cheapest running cost.

          • @Nom: Yeah, unfortunately we only have 2 zones, upstairs and ground floor.

            Will look into the split system, we used to have one in our old house, but the heater air from the split always made the room air feel very dry. Running cost aside, I guess a pro using the resistive electric heater at 16c the air is more pleasant when waking up, and also no sound.

            Thanks for the insights and advice!

            • @AnDyStYLe: Don't forget the simple things like thick curtains, draft strips round the door and windows, insulation above the ceiling and under the floor - if the room has good heat retention then you'll need less heating (or none at all !!) to keep it at 16c 👍

  • +2

    As others have mentioned, running costs of electric resistance heaters of all types are high due to the cost of electricity.

    Yes, they are just under 100% efficient, but other options are either more efficient or cheaper to run.
    Gas heaters may be less efficient, but gas is cheaper (but not as cheap as it was).
    Modern reverse cycle (air conditioners/split systems) in heating mode are 300%+ efficient at the same fuel price.

    See https://www.sustainability.vic.gov.au/energy-efficiency-and-…
    Room heating – small room 12m²
    (Victorian data)

    That doesn't mean these kind of heaters are not the right choice in some circumstances, but they're also not the best choice for most.
    And expensive ones are not meaningfully more efficient than cheap ones. They're all 95% + efficient.

    • +1

      Hey thanks for this - so if my ducted A/C (7.5kW heating) has a power input rating of 1.93kW for heating, it's effectively consuming less power for a much greater output than this panel heater?

      • +2

        That's right. Electric resistance heating cannot exceed 100%. Air cons normally start with 300% or higher.
        There are direct radiant heaters, eventhough not more efficient, however more suitable for open spaces like balconies etc than A/C.

      • +1

        Yes. Heat pump and it’s CoP - coefficient of performance.

      • +2

        Yes, your ducted unit has an approx COP (Coefficient of performance) of 7.5/1.93 = 3.9.
        That means it uses 1 kWh of electricity to output 3.9kWh of heat.
        Its not actually 'creating' the heat, it works by extracting heat from the outdoor environment and releasing it inside your house.

        Note that since you have a ducted heater there's a few other impacts on the efficiency.
        1. Its got a big fan to push the heated air around, so there's some energy use in that.
        2. There are losses in the ducting, both from heat loss through the duct wall and air leakage at imperfect connections. Losses are probably high if your ducting is old, should be OK if recent and installed well.
        3. Ducted systems often don't have great zone control, and the tendency for most householders seems to be to heat most of the house anyway. Great if you're using the other rooms, but not as efficient if your just using and heating one room.

      • +1

        Thanks all, this is really helpful.

  • Any deals on the smaller sizes?

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