QNAP QSW-1105-5T 2.5GbE 5-Port Switch, Broadcom 53161 Chipset
$140 off RRP… Looks like the cheapest 2.5G switch on the market and possibly at ATL.
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QNAP QSW-1105-5T 2.5GbE 5-Port Switch, Broadcom 53161 Chipset
$140 off RRP… Looks like the cheapest 2.5G switch on the market and possibly at ATL.
Surcharges: 0% Afterpay & ZipMoney, 1% card & PayPal payments.
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Lol there's always one
I'm still surprised hfc is actually good?
can someone explain to me. i thought it was bad my household got hfc but turns out it's a form of fibre still?
@AeymothSky: had HFC at old house - the copper becomes the bottleneck.
speeds are OK (~70MBit), but ours in particular suffered from reliability issues (any downpour over 10mm of rain would cause it to drop out and in maybe every 10-15min - every provider we threatened and followed through with switching around 5x of them, but they still didn't want to know about it)
@Jaspa7: yeah right, i believe hfc uses some old foxtel network thing? like if u paid for tv cable?
i uh know my house supports 1 gigabit download as i had an one month free aussie broadband trial and it worked great. can definitely reach 50 uploads too…
but yeha i wonder if I'll ever get fttp? as that's the best one i believe.
but yeah I've heard stories of ppl having poorer connections with hfc due to the infrastructure in their area being bad. and i feel like yeah heavy storms or rain could've affected my network in the past along with possibly higher ping than what i would have if one day i get fttp ?! will see
@AeymothSky: if your HFC runs into the pit then yes you can have issues due to the pit being flooded
It's fairly reliable but I do have a friend that has his HFC drop everytime there's a storm due to the pit in front of his place being flooded.
I've had some damage in a pit near my place that dropped my connection completely until they fixed it a few months back
@shole: what does it running into the pit mean?
where's it run if it's not in the pit?
i do believe nbn co has made some fixes or maintence or upgrades of the hfc infrastructure in my area so I've not had any issues in connection in months and months. only tike i have an issue is due to power brownout or flicker whatever u call it
@Jaspa7: In the last place we rented we had HFC and also had reliability issues - took I think 3 different technicians coming out and about 2 months of pestering the ISP before another NBN tech came and found the tap from the node to our place was water damaged.
They ended up laying new cables to our place which finally fixed the issue but it was a real PITA monitoring the dropouts for so long in order to get the ISP to do anything
@AeymothSky: HFC can have good speeds but the reliability is terrible, if you have bad luck and are affected by a poor connection leading to dropouts the NBN won't acknowledge it
Every few years we start getting dropouts at my place due to a faulty connection at the tap up the pole outside our house. Every time it's a massive battle to get NBN to send someone up the pole to look at it
Can recommend Leaptel as the best ISP who will actually fight for you with NBN.
@367: I had HFC and it was rock solid. Ran from the pole to the house, no pit, no copper. Literally zero issues with it via TPG, Optus and Superloop NBN plans.
@AeymothSky: its decent enough if you have good quality copper if you dont you are in for a nightmare of dropouts and endless support tickets that will never get resolved.
I am living in Singapore these days and am surprised how far behind AU is.. I have FTTP, 5000/5000 plan that I managed to score for $29.95 ..
@phenshaw: Singapore is 49 km east to west and 28 km north to south. Population density ~ 8400 people per square kilometer (Sydney - 440). Internet infrastructure installation is by far more economical. Nothing actually to compare.
@vovka: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/six-million-times-faster…
We are ranked 82nd in the world…
@lonewolf: These ratings are meaningless without considering other critical factors such as population density, geography, climate, and existing infrastructure.
@justtoreply: Haha.. thanks @justtoreply.. so many things are are way overpriced.. alcohol.. cars.. property.. gotta flex the small wins :)
Avoid this one, heat and loop back issue.
what's loop back issue?
Using Google…
Common Issues and Solutions:
Loop Detection:
The switch's loop detection feature can sometimes incorrectly identify wireless backhaul as a loop, blocking the wired port and preventing devices from switching back to Ethernet.
Google if you want to find out the other issues. Also, there are some concerning user feedback.
The feedback that the power supply randomly dies. That in the end every single power supply dies. Yeah i wouldn't buy this product going by that. Sounds like a bad product. Don't waste your $59.
@hollykryten: Yeah, and people with Asus and Netgear routers reported issues with WiFi traffic (i.e. PCs trying to control smart lights / switches) so it is a concern. It's a shame because a lot of WiFi 6 routers only have 1 LAN port so a cost effective switch like this would be handy.
in english please tyvm
These early gen 2.5Gbps switches have issues (not just this one). Being unmanaged, update the firmware is unrealistic. However, the more concerning issue is reliability on them.
For more info, google: qsw-1105-5T issues
Google is so 2024. Now we chatgpt it. 🙃
Going to be weird changing it from
Have you googled it
To
Have you (insert dominant AI player of 2030) it.
Hopefully not have you grok'd it
@Tommohalby: Google that would use Gemini AI and if you use Chrome, you can just type that string in.
There is another reason to Google that, you get other search results to forum post with details on the issues.
@netsurfer: The results I got from AI seemed much easier than Google. 🙃 But can you trust it yet.
Can you trust anything on the net.
@Tommohalby: The result I found using OpenAI is the same as Google, except slower. Also, if you want more information, you have to type more. Google has heaps of links you just click.
I am using paid version and I found the OpenAI based answer inferior and ended up with useless suggestions.
For something this simple, Google is fine and faster.
@netsurfer: I found it more annoying having the ads around and the Google results that aren't useful overall to the search I really want.
My results came in under 2 seconds watching it type out. I don't need it faster than.
Each to their own though. Use what works for you.
I'm going away from Google. Especially since they have stuffed up everyone's home devices. Someone else can have my data and ad revenue.
@Tommohalby: When I started asking ChatGPT more about it, including solutions, it started hallucination (and I checked that hallucination, it's pure BS).
@netsurfer: Just make sure you don't put glue on pizza or eat a rock a day. 😏
If you don't know what I'm referring to you can Google it 😂
@Tommohalby: It's a waste of time using ChatGPT and keep typing more to get info. For something like this, it is just not worthwhile to waste more time sort out the hallucination.
For something ChatGPT can save me hours of work, I am willing to correct its mistakes for a few minutes.
@Tommohalby: Enjoy misinformation and hallucination then. For network products, ChatGPT doesn't have the latest information and can give out wrong answers. Also, finding the lowest prices using ChatGPT is ……
Also, the "Google" search I suggested includes Gemini summary at the beginning, so AI is already used. Compared to ChatGPT, Gemini is able to answer network product related questions with less misinformation. I tested something that requires knowing what got changed late May, ChatGPT has no knowledge of the change, Gemini somehow managed to not get tricked and came back with the correct answer (I was expecting Gemini to return the wrong answer as well).
On a switch, if you create a loop between one port and another, you can create a broadcast storm, which pretty much makes the switch inoperable. Switches often have protection for loops. Without reading into this model, it seems from the comments that it can (wrongly) see wireless networks as a loop, kicking in the protection. This will most likely render one of the upstream connections inoperable, causing outages (wired or wireless) on your network.
2.5gbit here we come
Scorptec's product title is wrong. It's not Gigabit but 2.5 Gigabit. There's a difference. It's no wonder that it didn't sell that they had to put it on clearance. No one was going to buy a 5 port Gigabit switch at $199 if that's how they the seller described it as in the product title in the listing.
Anyone who needs a 2.5gbe switch knows what they're looking for already.
Commodity network switches can be found cheaper on AliExpress with similar, if not better, features.
Curious what you’d recommend from AE?
Keeplink 2.5gbe switch been working great
I disagree if you get ones with SFP+ modules (if you want to use 10Gbps ethernet uplink) - compatibility issue. For managed switch version, no IPv6 management features at all. Don't expect any firmware update.
You get what you paid for.
@netsurfer: If you want to use SFP+ DAC cables, it doesn’t matter as much, and if you want to use fibre instead, you can read up on SFP+ transceiver compatibility anyway before buying.
SFP+ to RJ45 isn’t worth it, I’d just buy a 10GbE RJ45 switch anyway.
@FujinShu: Compatibility list for el cheapo brand switches, really? If that switch only works using DAC cables, then it's not that good.
10GbE RJ45 switches, any decent ones? Preferably not one of these el cheapo ones and one with proper IPv6 support.
@FujinShu: Everyone of the 'weird' network devices I have from Aliexpress accept every single transceiver I have thrown at them. So far, FS, Cisco, Juniper, Dell and 3-4 'generic' ones from Amazon/AE.
@ehsad: Fibre and DAC ones are easier. I get DAC is better in general, but the whole point of finding out whether the switch is fussy or not is to put it under a more challenging situation. I have devices with only 10Gbps ethernet port (heck, even Mac Mini with 10Gbps support uses Ethernet). My Keeplink switch, the ethernet SFP+ compatibility is subpar (the same SFP+ module works fine on other switches). I bought a more expensive one and will try that.
In terms of features, it has all the basic ones for IPv4. There is no IPv6 management features. That's another issue I have. For switches I intend to use long term, do I just live with IPv4 management (and for IPv6, rely on the upstream network device as a workaround)? Anyway, let's face it, there is a reason Keeplink switches are cheap. However, it doesn't hurt to know what you are missing out (or the issues).
Yep, been using this one and has been rock solid
Just got one. Currently $58. I got the 5 port I know they go up and down. Gonna be good for my dream router 7 coming next week's and few new USB 2.5g to get more speed. Come September and see when 2000 fttp. Still not sure if upgrading or stay on 1000/100 believe the upgrade from 1000/50 will be.
Did you use a new account? Showing as $109 for me
try another store
Yeah, another store.
Anyone with experience of these sort of budget managed switches? Horaco 2.5GbE Managed Switch 8 Port $67
I've got a couple of Horaco switches, and have had zero problems.
Cheers
There is a customer comment on VLANs:
Unlike version in black case, which is sold previously here this switch not supporting 802.1q vlans Beware!
These el cheapo switches don't offer IPv6 management and if IPv4 VLAN support is also incomplete, then what's the point? That said, it is really odd 802.1q is not supported given that it's been around for such a long time and is pretty much a standard even for el cheapo managed switches. I am "guessing" it doesn't default to do 802.1q for VLANs (quite a number of switches doesn't default to 802.1q for VLANs and you need to turn it on).
The switch uses Realtek chipset, but given the price, that's expected.
Thanks!
Thats a great price!
im using its clone with zero issues.
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005006673421984.html?spm=a2g…
4x2.5GbE + 2 x10Gbps SFP MANAGED (VLAN support)
Aliexpress Welcome deal $56.46
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006278753506.html
I have this one. What came what a totally generic one with no branding whatsoever which is fine. The management ui is basic but all the features are there. You can actually get updated firmware but mine had the latest month old version. Works great. Have two 10g to rj45 sfp+ modules in it (xicom $30ea).
Hey I just got a $30 Xicom but I'm having trouble getting it to work with anything but 2.5G. What speeds are you using? Do you use them in other switchs beside the Horaco?
10G on an M4 Mac mini. Auto negotiated to 10g. The horacco module I had negotiated to 1G but could be forced to 10G manually. Not sure if module or Mac issue. But the xicom worked fine for me. They didn’t send you one of the cheaper 2.5G modules? Lots of listings have a 2.5g and a 10g option so they appear in search results earlier sorted by price.
@MetalPhreak: Thanks - The sticker on my xicom says 2.5G/5G/10G so looks to be the correct model assuming the sticker is actually correct.
5x 1GB unmanaged switch, the brand doesn't matter… If it was more complex, or managed then, paying for a brand might matter. But no branding for such a simple switch makes up for price.
Cheaper from AliExpress. Time to get the gear ready for NBN 2000!