116 Metres - Will I Get a Speeding Fine?

Morphio25 on 27/06/2025 - 19:01
Last edited 12/07/2025 - 08:54

Turned off a main road into a side street tonight with a 50km/h limit. I reviewed my dash cam footage when I got home, the period in which I exceeded the speed limit, and then briefly reached a top speed of 58km/h (per the GPS on my dashcam) before returning to a speed under the limit lasted 5 seconds.

The point at which I reached a speed below the limit was approximately 116 metres from the camera van (distance measured on Google Maps)

So, will I receive a fine?

EDIT: 4/7 - it's now been 1 week and I've received nothing in the post yet.

EDIT: 12/7 - it's now been 2 weeks and I've still not received a fine in the mail. At this stage I'm prepared to call it good and suggest that at 116m away the van didn't snipe me. YMMV.

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  • JimmyF on 27/06/2025 - 19:04
    +13

    So, will I receive a fine?

    If you had been speeding in the cameras detection area, yes….. If not, no.

    • Morphio25 on 27/06/2025 - 19:06
      +1

      Hahaha therein lies the million dollar question , was I in the zone? Google's AI answer indicated the cameras are "most effective" within the 50-100m range, but it is still possible to detect speeding vehicles outside of that range. 16m isn't much at the end of the day.

      • JimmyF on 27/06/2025 - 19:10
        +8

        Your error rate for measuring distance from the camera would be more than 16m, so honestly no one is going to know but you in a few weeks time.

        No one can say if you had been caught or your hadn't based on the facts you have provided.

        • Morphio25 on 27/06/2025 - 19:37

          Used Google Maps to measure the distance from where my speed dipped below the limit to where the van was. Ruler said 116 metres. You're right though, could be a few metres either way.

        • Dr Phil on 28/06/2025 - 22:39
          -5

          What a useless post !

          OP should just wait and see and stop harrassing us.
          Nothing we can do about it nor offer any advice.

      • JownehFixIT on 28/06/2025 - 15:29
        +1

        It's more like a $322 and 1 point question, probably :-D In QLD anyway: https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/fines/demerit/points

  • MS Paint on 27/06/2025 - 19:26
    +15

    Oddly specific.

  • Moneyinthebank on 27/06/2025 - 19:33
    +3

    you are gone

    • Morphio25 on 27/06/2025 - 19:35
      +6

      I watched the footage after the event, not at the time. Genius reply though, really.

        • singingwolf on 28/06/2025 - 12:40
          +9

          I wouldn't call 58 ripping given the speed limit used to be 60kmh not that long ago. And people used to do 10 above back then.

          Now everyone drive 10 below and it's infuriating.

    • Bidet Mate on 29/06/2025 - 10:16
      +6

      Try not to find an insanely bad Protractor take on every post challenge: Impossible

  • Fredfloresjr on 27/06/2025 - 19:46
    +10

    just torch the van and you'll be fine

    • Protractor on 27/06/2025 - 19:51

      That'd make it look like he is involved in an underworld hit

      • Fredfloresjr on 27/06/2025 - 19:55
        +1

        pretty much the Norm anyway

    • 2024 on 28/06/2025 - 09:26
      +1

      Does the van sell illegal tobacco as well?

    • Windows7forever on 21/07/2025 - 15:39

      Lol

  • Far Cough on 27/06/2025 - 19:51
    +9

    You're going straight to maximum security jail

    • Protractor on 27/06/2025 - 22:27
      -2

      They are re-opening Alcatraz.Looks like they have the next bird-man

  • AustriaBargain on 27/06/2025 - 19:52
    +1

    The cruise control on my x-cross will let me go a few km over the speed limit when going over a small hill, and when going down a hill it'll just keep going faster and faster. So if I set the cruise to exactly 60 and I go up a slight incline and at the top of the incline there is a speed camera, I'll be going like 64 instead of exactly 60. It's very annoying.

    • A-mak on 28/06/2025 - 11:45

      My tucson is exactly like this too, it can end up going 9km/h over the set cruise when going down hill before it even thinks about engine breaking.

      Then it can't decide what gear it would like when going up hill (or slight incline) will finally decide to drop a gear and do 3-4krpm and just simply speed.

      My old 91 ford EB2, the cruise was great; set and forget and was more fuel economic. This 2017 tucson I don't even use the cruise absolute garbage.

      • singingwolf on 28/06/2025 - 12:41
        -1

        CVT doesn't have these issues.

      • MS Paint on 28/06/2025 - 13:16
        +2

        engine breaking

        That exactly what I would expect from an Hyundai Theta engine.

    • kongkurr on 29/06/2025 - 07:46

      Surely 64 on your car's speedo is only actually 60kmp/h or just below anyway, so it would only be an issue if you're setting it for 64+ to account for normal situations?

      • AustriaBargain on 29/06/2025 - 09:30
        +1

        I set it by gps speed indicator

        • kongkurr on 29/06/2025 - 09:55

          That's fair enough then!

  • CodeXD on 27/06/2025 - 19:53
    +3

    Been nice knowing you mate.

  • JIMB0 on 27/06/2025 - 20:01
    +2

    Keep in mind the GPS on a dash cam has a time lag and you were probably going faster than 60km/h.

  • Protractor on 27/06/2025 - 20:17
    -6

    Were you dragging Gout Gout?

  • tenpercent on 27/06/2025 - 20:29
    -7

    Request a review first if you do get sent a "fine". There are guides about how to do this effectively.

    You can request a second review if you have additional information that was not provided the first time.

    You can also request to go to court, initially or after a review is not in your favour.

    Chances are it will still be dropped before you get to court because it's expensive for them even if you lose and have to pay legal costs. The costs awarded won't actually cover the time and staffing they expend on it. They are also short staffed so they will be reluctant to allocate someone to go to court to deal with a speeding fine for someone decelerating and going at most but possibly less than 8 km/h over the limit.

    If you opt to accept the fine or lose the court case you can apply for a work and development order (for example you could attend online training seminars, instead of paying the fine) or apply to have the debt written off, or request a fine reduction.

    Another option is to nominate someone else and then get them to nominate you in return. If you're up for a bit of fun they can nominate a third person who can nominate a fourth person and so on as many people as you can with the final person nominating you again. Then it will be up to the authoritays to prove it was you or them. Check the image first.

    • Protractor on 27/06/2025 - 22:30

      "i wAs oN A jOuRnEy" advocate?

      • pegaxs on 28/06/2025 - 07:57
        +6

        "I wasn't driving, I was travelling…" and then quote some random obscure seafarer's maritime almanac entry from 1863…

        • tenpercent on 28/06/2025 - 10:46
          -1

          Putting words in my mouth

          Straw man
          form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent

          • pegaxs on 28/06/2025 - 13:41
            +8

            @tenpercent: Dude, I didnt neg you or your reply. I was totally with you with those steps, right up till you started suggesting that you should just play nomination ping pong with it.

            Falsely nominating a driver who wasn't driving is an offence in and of itself and may even verge on being a criminal offence. It is from 50 up to 200 penalty units for this offence ($125.46 per penalty unit).

            As for your "going to court" reference, there is a very high possibility that if you nominate to "take it to court", they will take it to court. It's more of a game of chicken to see who gives out first. I once tried this approach for an $86 parking ticket thinking it was going to cost more to take it to court. they didnt give a shit and I was 100% taken to court. They dont care how much it costs because they give it to a prosecutor who will have 100 tickets to try that day, your's is just another one they have do the paperwork on.

            And court is for fines that are ambiguous or you are innocent. If you are guilty, you will need to plead guilty and they will just make you pay the fine, plus court costs and then stick you on a good behaviour bond IF you are lucky. Added to that, you may have to go to the court house and sit there and basically just wait. You may have to sit there for the whole day, and if your time is worth less than a $120 ticket, good for you.

            If you plead not guilty, you dont finish up there. It will then be set down for trial. The magistrate wont give a fudge on the day what you have, they will just set it for trial, so you come back another day and that time you will need a lawyer with you, so MORE cost.

            Added to all of this is your "work development order", because a lot of the time, this will not be granted if they can prove you have the means and the assets to pay for this fine + costs.

            So, yeah, elgrand makes a very valid point below. About the only "bunk" idea you didnt suggest, was to play the "sovereign citizen" defence, which would be equally as pointless as that nomination musical chairs suggestion.

            And it's not a "sTrAwMaN" as no one attributed it to you saying it and nor was anyone saying it and then attacking that instead. So, ironically, you saying "strawman!!" is the actual "strawman"…

            • jackspratt on 28/06/2025 - 19:37

              @pegaxs:

              is an offence in and of itself…..

              Does that make it 2 offences, or is one of them just redundant?

              jackspratt on 28/06/2025 - 19:37 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
              • pegaxs on 28/06/2025 - 22:19

                @jackspratt: You need to look up idioms.

                • jackspratt on 28/06/2025 - 23:11

                  @pegaxs: You need to look up affected abuse of the English language.

                  • pegaxs on 29/06/2025 - 08:15

                    @jackspratt: lol. Idioms are a part of the English language and therefore not really considered "abuse" (like "advise" used in place of "advice"). Idioms have been used in English language for quite a while now. If there is any "abuse" going on, it happened a long time before I made my above statement, so much so that it has become "common parlance".

                    Anyway, if the use of idioms triggers you so much, better go yell at Shakespeare as well then while you are at it. He loved a good idiom. In fact, I believe, he created a lot of them that are in use today… So, if anyone is to blame, it's him.

            • tenpercent on 28/06/2025 - 21:21

              @pegaxs: The nomination ping pong was a joke.

            • tenpercent on 28/06/2025 - 21:26
              -1

              @pegaxs:

              About the only "bunk" idea you didnt suggest, was to play the "sovereign citizen" defence, which would be equally as pointless as that nomination musical chairs suggestion.

              And it's not a "sTrAwMaN" as no one attributed it to you saying it and nor was anyone saying it and then attacking that instead. So, ironically, you saying "strawman!!" is the actual "strawman"ā€¦

              Wow I can't wait to see you at Brisbane when you win the Olympic Gold Medal for mental gymnastics.

        • JIMB0 on 28/06/2025 - 22:16
          +1

          Throw in a few mentions of being a sovereign citizen.

      • tenpercent on 28/06/2025 - 10:45
        -2

        Strawman demonstrator?

    • elgrande on 27/06/2025 - 22:43
      +4

      Your advice is wrong in so many ways.

      • Protractor on 28/06/2025 - 09:48

        It's the slobbering citizen defense

      • tenpercent on 28/06/2025 - 10:47
        -3

        in so many ways

        For example?

    • Crow K on 28/06/2025 - 15:34

      Holy Christ, the worst "I'm just a traveler on a website" I've seen in a long time.

      This advice is terrible; thanks for being on point.

      Your advice would be better in the future if you gave the actual education a chance? E.g. actual reference/books

      Anyway, thanks for showing up and showing us all exactly the way you are.

      • tenpercent on 28/06/2025 - 21:23
        -1

        E.g. actual reference

        I literally provided 4 links to the NSW government website.

        Do you want me to apply some moistueriser and hold your hand for you?

        • Crow K on 29/06/2025 - 10:00

          moistueriser

          Your continued inability to spell 'big' words aside, do I want help from you immediately after I commented on how useless and terrible your help is?

          Nope! But we can revisit this answer if you display competence at some stage in the future.

          • tenpercent on 29/06/2025 - 10:36
            -1

            @Crow K:

            Your continued inability to spell

            šŸŽ£ Ma! He took another bite!
            Hook. Line. Sinker.

            do I want help from you

            You asked for references. I pointed to the fact they were already provided. And from the most trusted and authoritative of sources, the gubment.

            • Crow K on 29/06/2025 - 11:10
              +1

              @tenpercent:

              actually i was spelling words incorrectly on purpose as an elaborate trick to make you think i'm stupid

              you certainly got me. what's your next 4D chess move, falling down some stairs while holding glassware?

              i would HATE it if you did that, that would really annoy me.

              • tenpercent on 29/06/2025 - 11:14

                @Crow K: šŸ˜˜

                • Protractor on 29/06/2025 - 11:17

                  @tenpercent: This is good.Keep it going. It's not the Marx Bros and 3 Stooges, but it has potential.

                  • tenpercent on 29/06/2025 - 11:26

                    @Protractor:

                    It's not the Marx Bros and 3 Stooges

                    Showing your age

                    • Protractor on 29/06/2025 - 13:43

                      @tenpercent: So if I comment about Captain Cook am I 300 YO?
                      I got my 3 Stooges stuff 10 years ago. Really showing my age. Watch Marx Bros when they come around on repeats. Can't say I ever queued up in B & W at the races or opera, to get a peek at them, though.
                      BTW I was commenting on the similar type acid come backs.
                      Why I oughta….

                • Crow K on 29/06/2025 - 13:35
                  +1

                  @tenpercent:

                  when people criticise my ideas for being shit or imply that i'm stupid because i (profanity) up using and spelling big words, it's okay because i'm really just playing on here as a silly character, in real life i'm actually pretty cool and i know how to do all this stuff, it isn't really a comment on me it's just them falling for my playful online games

                  i'm just glad you're having fun both here and in real life :)

                  • tenpercent on 29/06/2025 - 13:52

                    @Crow K:

                    When I don't read properly and I miss four different government web pages used as references, but I ask for references anyway and then when I get told they were already provided I feel a little bit silly. But instead of introspection I instead start my ka kaws and attack the other person (even just their spelling because that totally destroys what they said, right?) because I'm really just a little birdy and I have to attack others just to make myself feel a little less small even for a moment.

                    I'm sorry you're not having fun here or in real life :(

                    • Crow K on 29/06/2025 - 13:55

                      @tenpercent:

                      correcting spelling is an attack who cares about spelling if you get your message across right it's just petty

                      You're really blitzing through all the reasons why it's other people's fault you keep making mistakes

                      I can't wait for the day when you accept some responsibility and say things with your full chest. I will be a proud bird indeed.

  • Ellene on 27/06/2025 - 20:37
    +6

    You should be fine

  • oscargamer on 27/06/2025 - 20:49
    -3

    Detection zone is roughly 18m from camera.

    • Protractor on 27/06/2025 - 22:31
      -1

      Crap

    • Morphio25 on 28/06/2025 - 06:51

      Source? If that is true then I am definitely fine, unless they wanna ping me for going 10km/h below the limit.

      • Protractor on 28/06/2025 - 09:50

        If its true no-one, who saw one, would have to slow down until 20 m away, get 20 m the other side and plant it. Govts want maximum revenue , not an 18m window of pot luck.

  • SnowDragon on 27/06/2025 - 21:05
    +1

    SASSY! Just take a trippa snippa mate you'll be fine

    • Morphio25 on 28/06/2025 - 06:50

      That deserves an upvote!

  • theHMASfriendship on 27/06/2025 - 21:17
    +6

    I think if you were 117 m away you might have been ok but if you were only 116 m then Iā€™d start getting familiar with bus routes

  • Benoffie on 27/06/2025 - 21:33
    +2

    These always feel like 'does a bear šŸ’© in the woods' types of questions.

    If someone on OzB knows tomorrow's XLotto numbers, DM me šŸ”®

  • jizmo on 27/06/2025 - 22:11

    It's all Lidar these days, I thought. If the laser can hit you, it takes less than a second for the read, that could be from 300 meters away.
    You need laser jammers to block the Lidar reading your speed and then slow down, but unfortunately that's technology is banned in Australia because we need the revenue money.

    • chickens on 27/06/2025 - 22:57

      i'm not saying you're wrong - but how do they get your license plate at 300 meters away? can they use a reading from 300 meters away and then take a second photo of you when you're closer to the mobile camera?

    • miwahni on 28/06/2025 - 00:46

      I miss the days when we all had radar detectors in our cars.

    • leiiv on 28/06/2025 - 00:53

      Can we DIY the tech?

      • Morphio25 on 28/06/2025 - 06:26

        You can but as Jizmo said it's illegal to have. You'd be in huge trouble if you get caught with it.

  • skid on 28/06/2025 - 08:13
    -1

    you in NSW? If so, you have to be within 25m (maybe 18m like oscargamer says). The cam op doesn't even put the warning sign up until it is within 50m.

    • mattmel96 on 28/06/2025 - 12:16

      Warning signs are meant to be:
      First one is 250 metres before the vehicle
      Second one 50 metres before the vehicle
      Third one on the vehicle
      Fourth one after you have passed the vehicle

      Actual range of the LIDAR exceeds the signs, so the unit will be tracking you and when within optimal focal range will snap the picture.

    • Morphio25 on 28/06/2025 - 17:21

      Nah, SA. We don't even have warning signs like you guys do over there.

  • prodrome on 28/06/2025 - 08:48

    You may voluntarily surrender your driver licence at any time.

    You just have to complete a form and send it in: https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/licensing/driver-licensing/ā€¦

    • Morphio25 on 28/06/2025 - 17:22

      Good thing I don't live in QLD then eh?

  • lew380 on 28/06/2025 - 09:13
    +2

    They don't trigger till about +4 kmh over the limit, so that might significantly reduce your dwell time in the danger zone (WA, other states might be different). I have tested this extensively, deliberately doing +4 through multiple cameras and never been flashed. Using GPS, and then calibrating my cars Speedo.

    The +4 is a +-2 for the possible measurement error and the other +-2 is for something else that I can't recall. Maybe just to reduce ambiguous speeding fines that could be contested in courts. A very welcome but uncharacteristic piece of common sense in Australian revenue raising.

  • GordonD on 28/06/2025 - 09:27

    It depends on whether the camera van used radar or lidar.

    Older radar systems send a beam out across the road with a specific beam angle width and at a specific angle, which if I recollect correctly, is 22.5 degrees. So you can determine where the beam intersects the lane you are in with geometric certainty by how far off the road the camera van is. Your speed is measured as you pass through the beam. With radar you would still have been outside the beam at 100+ metres.

    Newer systems use lidar. Lidar can reach and measure considerably further down the road. You are probably out of luck if that's the case.

  • Aap Ke Papa on 28/06/2025 - 09:54
    +1

    under 10kmph you can ask for forgiveness if no other fine in 2 years in vic

  • mattmel96 on 28/06/2025 - 12:18

    If you haven't had a previous fine in the last ten years, you can apply for an automatic reduction to caution (no points or $$$) unless it was in a school zone

    • Morphio25 on 28/06/2025 - 17:23

      I wonder if that applies in SA? Might have to look into that, pretty sure I haven't had a fine in at least that long.

      • GordonD on 29/06/2025 - 09:19

        Google can't find any reference to anything like that in SA. But I just might not be asking the right question. In fact accordingly to google SA police don't even issue warnings for minor offences, they issue a ticket no matter how good your driving record is.

        • mattmel96 on 29/06/2025 - 14:45

          NSW still issue however if you go on to the State Revenue (or whatever it says on back of infringement notice) there is the ability to appeal and it is one of the options listed.

  • cpapi on 28/06/2025 - 18:23

    MS paint diagram or cant help

  • darkmattersunB6c0MV on 28/06/2025 - 18:40

    Camera footage or it didn't happen.
    <Sarcasm/>
    Seriously, please don't speed.

    You will be fine this time, I hope.

  • TrumpisKing on 28/06/2025 - 21:49

    Revenue raising BS. If you get fined I feel your pain.

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