How Is AI Working for You

My involvement with AI is limited, but I am currently hooked on chatgpt.
I tried Grok and it has a lot more depth but got complicated with logins.
Havent bothered with others, but it has opened a huge new world for helping with car issues to getting straight answers to simple questions that google drowns in.
And it avoids ad pollution, although I suspect that going to be a whole other subject soon.
It deciphers the gobbeldy gook my doctor feeds me, and prepares simple questions to help me understand.
It even offered to help me produce court documents on a service issue.
Who are you using, how is it working, and what are you using it for, particularly amazing topics

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  • +4

    Who are you using

    ChatGPT most, Claude sometimes.

    how is it working

    Very well

    what are you using it for

    Coding, Development, Content Writing, Solving Technical problems, Script Building.


    I pay for the pro plan on ChatGPT and use it for a wide range of different things. Sometimes the accuracy on things isn't 100%, but otherwise its good for some stuff you cannot find on Google. It isn't completely getting rid of Google, I find Google Gemini better if you want it to find stuff online and then combine it.

    • +3

      Claude sometimes.

      Is this via Github Copilot?

      I have been using Claude Sonnet 3.5, GPT-4.1, o3-mini, Gemini 2.0 Flash and GPT-4o (in that order of preference).

      • +1

        Often directly via the Website but I sometimes use Github Copilot as well.

  • +1

    Sounds like Ozbargain is listening to what I'm watching.
    Literally just watched a video about builder.ai.

    • +4

      Coldfusion's episode eh

    • always quite impressed with these gigantic frauds! Plenty more to come in the AI space, those blockchain companies have to pivot somewhere!

  • +16

    Been using it for trip planning and building my travel itinery for japan. Works most of the time but it sometimes hallucinates and gives either bad or outdated advice, like telling me to buy a JR rail pass without considering it's no longer worth it since the 33% price increase.

    • +4

      We went in April, had a great time though was rushed over about 10 days. Got to see cherry blossom though!

      Best piece of advice, book the back seats of the bullet train early to get your luggage beside you. Book directly as well. Then once you're in Japan, link your IC cards for easy access at the gate

      Where are you planning to stay?

      • +4

        Will be solo for about 2 months next year March. Taking the Hokuriku arch route (sort of) so starting from Tokyo, Kanazawa, Takayama, Nagoya, Osaka and maybe a few places in between that are off the beaten path and with fewer tourists.

        Those kinds of places are cheaper too, 2 star hotels are like A60 a night if you don't mind rural areas. Also speed running learning Japanese at the moment and AI is somewhat helpful for that.

        • 2 months, well done.

          How are you getting around in an affordable way? The slower trains on some legs? Buses?

          • +2

            @movieman: Well the plan is to be as thrifty as possible so I will take regular trains for the majority of the trip. Since I am hopping from place to place the Shinkansen or Limited Express rides are not really necessary. All clothing and laptop stuffed into a single backpack so I don't need to spend money on Takuhaibin services.

            The places I want to visit are all serviced by trains, with the sole exception of Shirakawa-go, so there is at least one bus service I'll have to book.

            • @scrimshaw: The only way to Shirakawa-go is by bus, I took Shinkansen to Toyama then has to bus to Shirakawa-go

    • I use both ChatGPT and Deepseek. In Deepseek you can select search and the answer it return will factor in results from the search. Your prompt may need to specify current pricing or something along that line.

  • +5

    Just using ChatGPT, and without going into detail, it's been very handy for court based stuff

    • +7

      You should look at the several court cases where prosecutors use chatgpt and it made up cases and sources lol

      • +3

        Oh yeah, I've had to check it, but it's still been useful

        It's 'read' and generalised completely wrong info

        • +13

          Ooh a neg… Is the other party on here? 😂

        • Ai can be very useful for Courts stuff - the problem is (for a layman using it to produce documents) is the unknown unknown.
          For example asking it to do a Will for a person whos child has a disability (incorporating a Trust), well it did not exclude foreign benfarices.
          So generally the layman does not know what ChatGPT is excluding.
          Its probably okay if you work within those industries, and have access to others legal documents to compare against yours.

          In terms of cases, I asked it to give me 5 cases of trespass (in regards to protests) - 4 were made up and one was real case but was on a completely different point of law.

    • I second this and realized why.

      I would not apply the same for my medical or other subjects but only for the courts/lawyers paperwork.

  • +4

    Perplexity and Gemini have completely replaced Google search for me when doing research, although I'm also worried that they will eventually sneak in ads or 'promoted' recommendations.

    I'm surprised they haven't already, would be pretty easy to do with a system prompt. Surely a company like Eufy or BYD would love to have the AI gently nudge the user to buy their products when looking for comparisons or deals.

    Hopefully there will be good open source alternatives when the inevitable enshitification begins

    • +6

      Enshitification dictates the price will go up, features will split off to more premium membership tiers, ads will be introduced and censorship will be implemented. ChatGPT will be $200 per month in 5 years.

      • +3

        ChatGPT will be $200 per month in 5 years.

        The opposite will happen.

        We will have LLM's running locally by then, probably even on your phone.

        • you can already do that - they're just not the same as sota models

          • @dmac: I mean it will just come built into the phones as standard.

            Like Siri but with the LLM backend.

        • +2

          Both are already true. There's a $200 /month plan for ChatGPT and Claude + we can run lobotomized local models on our phones.

        • You better hope that competition remains strong and companies/open source projects are dedicated to making smaller models.

          It is not a given.

    • Google is already pulling search ads into Gemini results.

    • My main use case is research but with chatgpt. Is there a particular reason our use perplexity and Gemini over gpt?

      I haven't heard of perplexity but just looked it up and it sounds like it's worth a shot!

  • I would say don't share your methods. milk it for as long as you can.

    ok someone got upset I will reomve the comment.

    I guess people want a "morally fine" option. tbh there isn't one but if you like convincing yourself it is, just set up a scrape and post.

    you should have been recommended these videos by now, they show outrageous tiktoks and then ai "sings" the comments section. all picked and produced by ai.
    they get less views than ragebait/exploit content but you can work with that by pure volume of uploads.

    • Ok. No methods. What about results? What is it helping you to do?
      Please do not restrict your response to "morally fine options".

      • +1

        idk but I think the best thing ai has ever output is the apple dog videos. 😂

        I think people got upset about my original comment, because I mentioned the limitless methods people were exploiting others for financial gain. plenty of examples online i'm sure you've been exposed to it. maybe not knowing it was another persons published content, with a unique generated character's face instead.

        but said there is no "moral" option, because ai is trained on all data without their knowledge or consent. so basically all our data is being exploited whenever it is used.

  • +1

    Generated open scad code to generate a custom baffle for my custom made track lights at home for 3d printing

    • +14

      Damn impressive! … I assume… tbh I have no idea what you've just said.

  • +8

    I've been using Perplexity Pro for genealogy. It's working very well with transcribing and translating documents. Admittedly, there are some things I have to fix up, but it's a big time saver overall. When it gets foreign languages wrong I can have some back and forth telling it that a word looks sort of like this to me and it comes back with suggestions and it's easy to tell when it's the right word in the right context.

    I recently translated from French the marriage document of my 3x great grandparents. It opened up a lot of avenues because it just so happened to list their dates and locations of birth, their parents names, ages and locations, and the details of their new born son. It was interesting to learn that at the time the groom was considered a minor in terms of marriage at the age of 24, but the bride was 21 and considered of age.

  • +29

    It's useful but not really. It will always agree with you. It also just lies, and makes stuff up. It's really dangerous to trust it for anything of importance

    • +3

      It will also tell you its taken your changes/ suggestions onboard, then generate the same incorrect output over and over. It's incredibly frustrating how close it gets to doing what you want but never getting there.

  • +10

    dont use it for anything really, i have used it once or twice to rewrite a letter and to find a code error in a script but other than that, turned all that cr@p off on my s25 and on my windows 11pc, dont need AI watching and learning everything about me.

    • +1

      Agree it makes my work PC run like shit

  • -4

    The more stories I hear about AI (profanity) up, and impacting the user, the more I respect Darwin's take on natural selection. It is meant to be. Knowing ppl pay for it is even more gratuitous reward for the spectator cohort. I thought influencer was the bottom of the gullibility ditch, but I was so wrong.

    • +10

      Try participating more, instead of just mocking from the sidelines.
      You might find there are a whole class of problems that are difficult to solve, but easy to verify the answers.

      • +15

        Why? Does it impact you? Someone has to document the dilution of the human intellect. I find it hilarious the amount of energy put into defending AI, and at the same time abandoning using the brain they were born with. Dementia and Alzheimer's is going to cause the health system to implode when the stockpile of atrophied brains is added to the queue.The rapid adoption and use of AI, without appropriate oversight and veracity is one of the greatest hoaxes on humans since religion entered the building. We were close to the bottom of the barrel before AI. Now we've punched right through it. I know this comment will get negged into the ether, but I don't care. We have peer review for a reason.Imagine that being hijacked by a compromised collection of AI. When that very AI is controlled by a few for their own agenda. AI is not altruistic. But I get you've drunk that koolaid. You're not alone.May that comfort you as you drift further away from 'you'.

        • the dilution of the human intellect.

          This checks out. https://www.media.mit.edu/articles/a-i-s-effects-on-the-brai…

          Wow. Protractor and I both subscribe to the same conspiracy theory! 😌

          • +3

            @tenpercent: it's not just about intelligence.

            apparently many people prefer speaking to ai (using the voice talk/respond system) than a real person. majority of people over 40 are treating ai as the new alternative to google.

            a lot of younger people in relationships, prefer the emotional support and positive affirmations (sorry not sure if this is the right word) from their ai app, than they do their partner. I actually have a negative outlook on the behaviour/requirements of people in general, so I think this is where it's actually heading. fully compatible artificial ideal partners and so on.

            I mean who cares about all those tesla bot looking androids that will do your housework. I think people will quickly move and depend on them for a relationship and emotional support and we all know what the end goal is. they will need to be our fully compatible partners.

            • +3

              @n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: 'Her' was predictive programming.

              • +3

                @tenpercent: but you get what I am hinting at right? that's what people truly want. who cares about being the smartest or most charming. people just want to be in a comforting relationship and do the acrobatics once in awhile. 😂

                by the way I'm experiencing first hand older people in my family relying on chatgpt, and this is how it goes.
                they first speak to me or send me a message with a question or discussion. then after a few replies they go "I'll ask chatgpt" (feels like getting brushed off, because I'm young). then they never get back to me on that topic and ghost you, happens every time.

            • -4

              @n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: This is good news. Ppl shagging robots should deal with overpopulation (for a while). The bit after that is a bit too ugly for most of the impacted ppl to digest.
              The even better news is that this paradigm suits the right and the Trump side of the species more than the left. And we know what that means.

              • +1

                @Protractor: yes as I'm not really one side or the other either. I don't really care much either way.
                but dealing with an emotionally bipolar and abusive human relationship for a lifetime sounds like a terrible way to live.

              • @Protractor:

                The bit after that is a bit too ugly for most of the impacted ppl to digest.

                Yep. We're totally subscribing to the same conspiracy theory here.

              • +2

                @Protractor: There is no overpopulation, we have enough food to support all the people on earth already (in fact worlds population could increase to 11,000,000), the only starvation is human induced (eg political) starvation.
                And the population is collapsing everywhere (now 0.72 child per female in Korea, where you need 2 children to keep population growth at 0%).
                And thats how I think Ai will destroy humanity - people will be in a relationship with a robot, and have no kids.

            • +1

              @n3ck3ntry8bort0rgasm: This seems sad to me. I don't think I would ever want a relationship or emotional support from some black box.

          • -1

            @tenpercent: Both agreeing on reputable science (fact) isn't quite a shared conspiracy theory. It's the ppl defending AI in it's infancy, that are wearing the foil in this scenario. Why would science have been pushing 'exercising our brains' for decades, to stave off measurable decay, if AI was a panacea? The irony is 99% of the time saved getting AI to do your brain work, will be wasted on further mind melting crap.

            • +1

              @Protractor: It's not quite reputable science as it's not peer reviewed yet.

              And the scientific research says nothing about the (almost certainly ulterior) motives of the people who own and push this tech.

              • @tenpercent: There is a pattern in your belief system.You think when somebody has a view or role of protecting the health of community, (in this case mental health) they must have an agenda. Not everything in health is big pharma. I don't need the concept you linked to be peer reviewed it already has, If you limit what you use it for, or don't use it , a muscle atrophies. The physical signs of that atrophy are easy to see in scans on ppl who are 'brain dead', or suffering any of the age related,inactivity heavy late age lifestyles. There's a direct correlation between those scans and the outsourcing or minimising of our mental acuity. AI is basically acting as an eraser of our intellectual potential.Going fwd that will be amplified.

                https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10690520/

                https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/invisible-bruises/20…

                Note how the underlying conclusions are the lack of human touch. Lack of oversight. And the too late to put the genie back in the bottle. Until there is proper checks and balances, the pros can never outweigh the cons, and as we know, exploitation of the end user will drive the direction and outcomes.
                Most of the glowing endorsements on line are from ppl who use it prolifically. Or for personal gain,profit or power.( and the common reward>confirmation bias.)

                • @Protractor: I don't disagree with anything you have to say from "Not everything…" onwards.

          • +2

            @tenpercent: I often think of you and protractor as being 2 sides of the same coin. I'm not surprised you both share the same angle on things.

            • -3

              @JIMB0: Then you are as good a character assessment, as you are at auto electrics.

              • +3

                @Protractor: lol. I'm living rent free in your head.

                  • +5

                    @Protractor: You're rather hard to avoid. You post absolute crap all day every day, all over this site. If only there was a way to completely block you I'd be happy.

                    • -4

                      @JIMB0: Use hide, & don't respond. You are the one who keeps dropping snide comments on threads long before I comment there.

                    • @JIMB0: Is the "hide" button not a complete block?

                      • @SpainKing: Hide just replaces their spam with ‘comment blocked', so the forum still looks like a landfill, only now it’s labelled. And worst of all, they can still lurk, see your posts, and drop their petty votes.

        • +1

          Someone has to document the dilution of the human intellect.

          Yeah, ChatGPT can do that for us ;)

    • ChatGPT boosts my productivity. Yes it probably does stop me using my brain slightly, but I can get more work done and feel more confident about the end result, so I dunno, maybe in the end it might be working out better for my brain, giving me more time to do other things.

      If you need AI for work, it may give you a different perspective on it.

    • +1

      There is a very big difference between using AI to enhance what you do and having it replace what you do. Those who engage in the altter will suffer long term, those who do the former will thrive.

      Your same debate has beenmade time and tim again

      • The internet
      • Online shopping
      • Uber
      • AirBNB

      And pretty much any other innovation that has challenged the status Quo.

      All in good time, you'd best learn how to use AI in your work or get replaced by it.

      • This is the correct answer to the topic.

        People complaining about AI replacing your brain are paradoxically not using their brain to figure out how to use AI.

        AI allows us in many cases to compress the learning process by removing bottlenecks. Perhaps it's research on a topic, or learning how to do something step by step. It can replace watching a ten minute video on youtube on a given topic.

        Of course there's risks and things to watch out for. I wouldn't recommend asking it to "judge" behaviour or give opinions on contentious issues. It's better at telling us about known facts. Even then it pays to verify what it provides if you're using it somewhere else.

        I do coding and online tech design stuff as a job. AI is like my sidekick, ready to assist any time. I don't let it take over my codebase or even let it see all my code. I reach out sometimes with things like "I need a regex to replace all instance of n, where n is a number up to 4 digits."… it's so good not needing to browse documentation or websites for that kind of stuff. It spits out the answer instantly too, it's amazing.

  • +2

    Using LLMs running locally on my PC. Can run up to 70B models at IQ4. Or I have managed to run Qwen3 235B at 3-bit. It's fun to do.

    Also have played with API hosting, running full Deepseek is kinda cool.

    • +1

      Are you running prompts overnight, or spent $10k on a GPU?

      • +4

        I get between 5 and 7 tokens a second response, depending on the model and the context size. Works for me.

        I had a 4070 TI before all this LLM stuff. Added a couple of 4060 TI 16GB versions for LLMs. Giving me 44GB of VRAM.

        • Are you adding multiple GPU to one PC?
          Or running the LLM over multiple PCs?

  • +3

    I have built AI agents which automate stuff for me. I have automated sending relevant emails with action points for me on whatsapp so I can see them quickly.

    • I have built AI agents which automate stuff for me….

      Any tips? I would like to get ai to do automated stuff for me (eg get statistics, perhaps run a model, and send me an email once per month with the output).

      • try make.com. it is easy if you use a template.

  • +2

    I try to avoid using AI as much as possible for things I can control. For example, l said in another brief discussion about AI on here a few weeks ago that what I can’t control is Google using AI when I do a Google search, but what I can control is whether I use AI to write for me. I certainly won’t use AI to write for me. I personally think it’s disgusting that so many people are now relying on AI for things like cheating to get jobs, if the reason a person gets chosen for a job over another person is because of what AI did for their application, then the wrong person got the job, and that company deserves what they get, a less qualified employee.

    A couple of weeks ago I also posted the following discussion video from The Diary of A CEO podcast that was only recorded a few weeks ago, that Geoffrey Hinton who is known as “the godfather of AI” was involved in, he discussed the very real threats of AI and how dangerous it really is to humanity:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=giT0ytynSqg&pp

    • if the reason a person gets chosen for a job over me is because of what AI did for their application, then the wrong person got the job, and that company deserves what they get, a less qualified employee.

      I used to think this, now I'm not so sure.
      If it's a matter of you being truthful and not using AI to apply for a job vs someone else also being truthful but using AI to save time or effort, then is the other person necessarily a 'less qualified employee'?
      How about you being truthful in a job application (no AI) vs someone who is taking embellishment to the extreme pretty much lying and exagerating about all their achievements and abilities (and also not using AI)?

      • -3

        The recruiter just asks AI to pick, thus passing the blame along.

    • -6

      I personally think it’s disgusting that so many people are now relying on AI

      The horses sheep were queueing up, but none of them looked interested in drinking. You could see them as far back as the distant horizon.They patiently waited for AI to teach them how and when to drink. None of them moved first. The help never came.
      Oh well.

      • -1

        I think you are confusing AI with video games

        • First adopters of AI think life is a video game.

          • @Protractor: Why would you say that?
            I made a perectly debateable point about video games.
            I watched Hinton's podast, but a man has to make a living.
            There will be similar podcasts out there about the perilous future
            But I think Video games are doing much much more damage to malleable minds, and leave the victims unable to intellecutally incorporfate AI.
            Are you a gamer? I would be fascinated by your thoughts

            • @Clickbait: Correct, gaming is also a brain sapper, over time.. But gamers are not substituting core functions of brain usage in exchange for a shortcut, in the same way. I'm honestly flabbergasted that ppl keep defending AI's negative impacts, especially going fwd.It's like drug addict behaviour. Wearing the impacts & defending the dealer.

              • @Protractor: "gamers are not substituting core functions of brain usage in exchange for a shortcut, in the same way." Surely you joke. I have seen 6yo tp 50yo totall disfunctional. There's no shortcut, it's a complete displacement.
                What shred of knowledge is accumlated in 12 hours of core functions substituted by virtual baby sitting.
                Spread your wings, join the debate or shape the debate. There is a real world our there

                • @Clickbait: The process is different. But if you immerse yourself in brain dead games long and often, you turn your brain to plasticine too. But if that isn't enough for you to digest, I can only ask, are you an AI using gamer?

    • +1

      Cover letters written by AI stick out like dogs balls and ends up with their application in the bin

      • @Drpepper666 It wasn’t really cover letters I was referring to. I was talking more in depth, like for example what’s required for permanent Government roles which include management roles, where you need to prepare by writing up 10-20 scenarios using the STAR method/principle.

    • +2

      AI is just another tool, you're free not to use it, but you should not whine that others used the tools available to them to improve their situation. I use copilot all yhe time to help me draft doxuments and presentaions, also for coding, it makes me more productive.

      • -5

        Human productivity should be good enough on its own. If you can’t do tasks to the level that’s expected of you without AI, then you’re not good enough to have your job in my opinion. I don’t agree with companies using AI to increase productivity beyond what humans are capable of, because by supporting it, you may not lose your job to AI, but plenty of people in certain industries are going to. You should care about what’s best for society not what’s best for yourself.

        Have you watched the weeks old podcast video I posted of the godfather of AI Geoffrey Hinton speaking about the negative impacts AI is going to have on society, and all of real risks and threats that aren’t being taking seriously at the moment, AI has the potential to be extremely harmful and dangerous for humanity, it’s a very interesting and informative discussion that we should all listen to and take seriously. I agree with what Geoffrey Hinton says about it, there is no reason for me to agree with you over him, you’re not an expert that developed the technology:

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=giT0ytynSqg

        • +3

          What absolute twaddle. Businesses hire people to do tasks as efficiently and to as high a standard as possible with the tools available. choosing not to use the tools available means you are a poor employee. Do you choose to not use spelling and grammer checks with your work as human productivity should be enough? do you dig holes with your hands because human productivity should be good enough? practically every job in the world uses tools to increase human productivity from a ditch digger to teacher and AI is just another tool.

          • -6

            @gromit: What’s twaddle is that you’re buying into that BS further becoming a slave to making the business you work for richer who doesn’t give a fook about you. Society has existed without AI perfectly fine and so has the standards, efficiency and productivity that businesses have received from humans, why do you want to help businesses increase their profits at the sacrifice of others fellow humans losing their livelihoods and other societal issues that AI has the potential to cause? It’s sounds to me like you aren’t aware of and haven’t put much or any thought at all into the negative impacts that AI will have on society, and that you are just blindly seeing it as a positive.

            Your example about using spell check and other tools is absolutely ridiculous, because spell check or calculators and other tools haven’t wiped out large numbers of jobs from multiple sectors like AI is going to, certain jobs in entire industries are going to disappear almost entirely. That’s where the difference lies.

            It’s like Geoffrey Hinton says in the the podcast video I posted which I’m sure you still haven’t watched (so until you do too me you’re an ignorant person who is not informed and educated enough about the topic for me to be able to have a proper mature adult conversation with about this topic), his daughter worked for a firm writing letters I forget the specific purpose of the letters, it would take 25 minutes to write one, the company implemented AI and now it takes 5 minutes to write each letter, so now they get the same productively out of one person that they got out of 5 people before using AI and 4 people’s jobs are not longer required. Again, why do you want to support and help companies decrease the amount of humans they hire to increase their bottom line?

            • +1

              @HuzzahIndeed: LOL, you are the one becoming a slave. You think working longer and harder hours is better. You also think handing in subpar work is acceptable because you didn't use the tools available.

              Tools have absolutely wiped out large numbers of jobs on mass, in their millions. Perhaps you need to learn a little bit more about history like the industrial revolution. They always have, whether that be innovative farm machinary like tractors or computers or industrialisation in factories. Funnily enough I will have read and watched more on Geoffrey then you ever will have since I did my masters in Artifical intelligence of neural networks and expert systems in the 90's. Of course AI will change what people do for work, just like the tractor did or the car. The bottom line is there are too many humans on this planet, either we need to get a lot more efficient at everything we do or we are doomed as a species and the first people to go will be those too afraid of the future.

              • -2

                @gromit: I didn’t say anything about working more hours. People have had the choice to make career decisions to improve their work life balance and work less hours for years, that’s not something new that AI is needed for. It’s very telling that you have brought that up though, because it sounds like you are one of those idiots that thinks AI robots are going to work in humans place allowing humans to have far more leisure time or not work at all. No Government or company is ever going to work towards that fairytale. All AI is going to do is increase the amount of work that’s expected of you in the same amount of hours you worked before AI came along, AI isn’t going to be this revolutionary thing that gives most people in society an early mark.

                Also didn’t say handing in subpar work is acceptable, what I said is we shouldn’t be aiming for a world where human standards, efficiency and productivity is no longer acceptable.

                I didn’t say that there isn’t a tool that hasn’t taken away any jobs, what I have said is no tool before AI has removed anywhere near the amount of jobs from society that it’s currently known AI is going to and others that it’s predicted to. Name the other tool that has taken the equivalent?

                So there you have you it, your opinion is centred around you believing that the human race needs to be culled. Are you one of those tin foil hat, conspiracy theorists, prepper types?

                I didn’t say that you’re not familiar with Geoffrey Hinton, just that you’re not up to date with his current concerns and warnings about AI. He discusses the very thing in the 3 week old podcast video that I posted that you’re saying you’re concerned about, our future and the doom of the human race and society, and how AI could mean this for humanity.

                • +2

                  @HuzzahIndeed: I give up, arguing with luddite trolls is pointless. I am very up to date on his current concerns, some of them are well founded, others are simply fear and making predictions. I definitely do not agree with him that AI is doom and gloom, can be either our greatest saviour or our worst enemy, it is up to us what we make of it, however ignoring it because your scared of it is the absolute worst thing to do as you lose on both ends.

                  Like all tool revolutions of the past that take millions of jobs away they generally create as many or more jobs, it is yet to be seen whether AI will be a net positive or negative for jobs. cars and trucks were going to make millions of people obsolete, as were computers and robots, tractors were going to make millions starve do to no work.

                  • -1

                    @gromit: You’re just demonstrating here that you’re certainly not up to date like you are claiming about Geoffrey’s current concerns. Your point where you state here “Like all tool revolutions of the past that take millions of jobs away they generally create as many or more jobs”, Geoffrey talks about why AI is different to those past tools and how it won’t create as many jobs as people like you think. But hey, I should listen to what some random nobody of Australia arguing about it on OzBargain says instead right?

                    I’m not saying it’s all doom and gloom and neither was Geoffrey in the video. You started this conversation off all positive about it, and showing no concern for the negatives, that’s what my problem has been with your argument.

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                      @HuzzahIndeed: and just like all those that predicted previous revolutions would NOT create jobs I also think Geoffrey is likely wrong here, the problem with predicting the future here is we don't know enough to know what will actually happen with jobs.

                      I agree we definitely should not be listening to some random nobody luddite on ozbargain screaming to burn the tools as they are the devils work. You started the conversation off all negative and completely ignored any positives, that is entirely my problem with your argument.

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                        @gromit: What facts have you got to back up that Geoffrey is likely wrong about that. As an expert, he at least explains his position in great detail, you haven’t done that.

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                          @HuzzahIndeed: Geoffrey is speaking facts either, he is making predictions. AI has massive benefits across all of society, even now while it is still in its infancy and embodies no real intelligence. Everything from mining, safety, medicene, climate, security, and millions of daily efficiencies are KNOWN positives right now, not predictions.

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                            @gromit: Again you’re showing your bias towards the positive benefits, and I don’t think that you think the concerns are anything to really worry about, which I think that makes you a foolish person. It’s clear by the way you’re talking that you’re already convinced that AI is good for humanity and society. The problem is at the moment there is not sensible measures in place to properly govern it, and if we make bad choices with AI there’s no going back.

                            Geoffrey does speak about facts in the video, and his predictions are centred around the facts and are credible because they are coming from a knowledgeable and experienced expert that is in a position to make those predictions. What credibility have you got?

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                    @gromit: AI systems are already currently being used to choose which children to murder using autonomous AI operated killbot drones in Gaza.
                    Gaza is just a testing ground. Same with Ukraine.

                    Woot! AI FTW!!! Yeah!!!! 🎉 /s

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