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Why? I have that card and it cost $1139… Which is more than this one. Its an extremely basic card and they aren't producing them anymore.
One fits in a small SFF and the other one does not. A problem that $40 in savings can't overcome.
Hmmmm I have mine in an NR200.. temps are ok except for memory which hits about 90c with manual fan curve… stock fan curve is more than that (96c). Guessing your case is smaller than the one I have which would fit this Hellhound as well.
@scud70: Nr200 has a fairly large amount of room for a pseudo sff case.
But you'll struggle with the larger cards in more niche cases.
My original V1 Ncase M1 which has the smallest gpu space vs later models of the m1, for example, wouldn't fit a good majority of 9070 xts just because of height more than anything. It hits the side mounts. Heck I struggled with a gtx 1070 strix. Required some finessing.
The reaper would just slot right in. No shot I can fit the hellhound unfortunately.
@ReaperX22: I have an ncase n1 evo, If height is your problem, then just get a 90 degree pcie adaptor for $10 on amazon like i have
Pretty much all cases will have this issue with the pcie cables pressing against the side panels of the case
@neosin: M1 Evo and m1 original launch (2013) are very different cases haha.
My issue isn't PCIe sometimes. It's the tip back corner of the taller cards hits the side panel mount.
Exactly, reaper fits my case, hellhound is too long
The reaper is I believe the only 9070/9070 xt that's a true sff friendly 2 slot with everything being 2.5-3 slots or more in some cases. I might be wrong in it being the only 2 slot though
It is a 2 slot, it's definitely small but yeh downside is it's not the best thermal wise.
Pretty much. I have a Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC in my NR200 as I bought close to launch day, fits easily and is one of 5 models that definitely do. It's a bit of a roomy SFF Case though.
Reaper is 41mm wide with the Hellhound being the next closest at 49mm.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NR200/comments/1j0fki1/here_are_all…
Steve from HUB said they've stopped manufacturing it to focus on producing other models in the line up.
This sucks so much as it was the only 2 slot variant of the 9070 XT 😭
Yeah basically focussing on larger margin cards. Zzz
Getting closer to lower $1k now.
These are finally down to actual RRP. Nature is healing.
$999, I will pull the triger
Same.
Great price. Was just about to pull the trigger on the white version, but now I'm second guessing if the extra $150 is justified to match the rest of the build.
Unless $150 difference is very significant for you, i gaurantee you won't regret paying more and matching the build. But likely will regret not spending the extra every time you look at your PC.
It's real, I live with this regret everyday
Yup I’ve been through it many times. I’ve learned to just spend more if the money is not an issue.
If you made the mistake of buying a PC case you can see inside, black spraypaint on the inside face of the glass costs a lot less than $150.
True OzBargainers don't spend time looking inside their PC cases. They use their PCs instead.
This at $1099 or RX 9060 XT 16GB at $579?
Just for SteamOS/Bazzite with Ryzen 7 5700X, doing 4K gaming at low-med (console-level) settings with ray-tracing and ML upscaling.
Really depends on the games you play and your display resolution. Some games 9070 XT is nearly double the performance, the others are only 50% uplift. Also if you have a 2K/4k monitor then 9070 XT is better for playable fps on new AAA games.
But tbh pricing wise they're on a 2 separate tier, normally if you are in the market of 9060 XT then you wouldn't bother with 9070 XT and vice versa.
at 4k, the 9070XT would be the better option imo,
Currently gaming on the 9070 xt at 4K and it does great most, games 90 fps+ at 4k maxed settings.
$500 is a huge price difference for a big performance jump. Your budget is the deciding factor here.
Honestly doubt you'll be Ray tracing with a 9060xt at 4k.
Ive got a 3070 which is about on par (or a little behind) with 9060xt with less vram. It's a 1440p card, you need heavy upscaling to hit 120fps in most games at 1440p let alone 4k.
9060xt is a 1440p card
9070xt is what you want
I just had a bit of a look. Did you get it for close to retail when you bought it? That 3070 is holding up pretty well still. Very close to the 9060XT like you've said, but just a bit behind (less vram like you said). I have a friend who bought an MSI branded one at launch for pretty close the RRP (this was during the shortage too. He got super lucky with stock and price). I'd been waiting for 6-12 months trying to get a 3080 and he just goes out and buys a 3070 after he'd been looking for 2-3 days. I ended up getting a second hand 6900XT instead for double this price of this 9070XT as I just couldn't find stock at the time. Looks like he got one of the best value deals around.
I bought it for $700 during peak of covid, wasn't new. The guy was also selling 3080s at the time for $1000. Kicking myself for not getting that instead
@krisspy: Darn, both of those are great prices at that time. Amazing actually. I paid over 2K for this 6900XT second hand. Would have much rather had a 3080 for 1K.
I think my friend paid $850-$899 or so for a brand new 3070 back then.
Isn’t that what the PS5 Pro does anyway with PSSR?
Deep ragrets buying this at $1199 2 weeks ago! 😭
damn. same. bought mine from PCCG for 1200.
but, i mean, it's either buy it now and enjoy it or be the guy who HODLs for 10 years on his 1080 Ti
It's a 1080 standard not a ti and 8 years now but indeed you are correct because I am that guy at the moment. :(
I retired my 1080 on my last build but this comment takes me back! Had it for about 7 years before it decided to go to sleep permanently.
We TODL you to HODL
Very good price, I should warn though I bought the PCCG deal and there have been some issues. The card seems to boost well over spec to 3350mhz and I ended up having to manually underclock it as games were freezing/crashing and artifacting heavily.
Not the best out of box experience and I am considering RMA'ing the card and seems like others on reddit experienced the same issue with the hellhound specifically.
I get the same thing on my XFX Swift 9070XT, boosts up to 3400Mhz on default settings and crashes when playing. Seems fine after a minor overclock so I'm not too fussed, since 3400Mhz is well above the advertised frequency.
Unfortunate to hear XFX card is having the same issue. Did you mean minor underclock? Or did you do some voltage/power tweaks to get the 3400mhz stable?
Oh yes, sorry, just a 100Mhz underclock did the trick to stop Expedition 33 (the most unstable game I found) from crashing.
The hellhound has a dual bios right?
Presumably you're on the boost bios. Have you tried the quiet bios by chance?
It'd be worth a try to flip the bios switch, if you can't be bothered with the whole rma thing. May work just fine on the other.
Yep, I may try the quiet bios option but for now the underclock seems stable. Just going to see how it goes for 2 weeks or so playing games and then rma if required.
I thought this was just me, got the same deal as you, worked a dream for 2 weeks then crashed 3 times in 2 days
I regret buying a 9800XT for 800
How's the 256 MB VRAM treating you?
Mannnnnnnn I miss the cool random 3d rendered designs on the old cards from way back when. None of it made sense. But it was kinda fun lol.
Random alien/demon or the hot sellers had 3d girls with tig ol bitties
@krisspy: Maxsun & Yeston make anime waifu card designs, which I think is the modern equivalent, but they're mostly in Asian markets, not here.
Wonder if it's worth finally upgrading from my 6900XT. I don't play a ton of games, but hate that I bought this card for double the price second hand back when there was massive shortages.
Any idea what the going rate for the 6900XTs are second hand if I were to sell it (where would I check current market value prices?)?
Why is it always WA that never gets free shipping (obviously distance, but it still sucks). I don't really mind if they use the cheapest shipping method, if they can't do free, should just offer something like a $9.99 flat rate for standard postage or something.
Edit: Is the 7900XTX worth looking at for a bit more with the extra vram of 24GB (they have the Powercolor for $1299), or do the new features of the 9070XT put it over the top?
I've been wondering this myself, but it depends what you want it for.
9070 XT is on par with the 7900 XTX, if not ahead. My personal use case is VR so the 24gb of VRAM is the key for me as far as longevity goes, however, the 9070 XT has better ray tracing (the feature no one ever asked for) and AV1 encoding, the latter of which is more important for streaming to devices using lower bandwidth.
So, depends what you want it for.
The 6900xt is still a strong card, if you're not noticing it struggling in the games you play then save your pennies. Totally feel you on buying cards at elevated prices though COVID years, feels rough.
I truly dont know what to buy anymore. 9060xt is basically half the price but i feel like it wont be enough of a performance jump. But 1000 for a GPU hurts every fibre in my being
If you need the grunt, you gotta take the punt
The lack of DLSS is such a massive thing here… I've seen the 5070 ti as low as about $1270 on discount but currently around $1350 with eBay plus. But if I get this for $250 less I'd be relying on FSR4 improving and needing to be added to a LOT more games. For 1440p DLSS is way clear from what I've seen. And worst case, AMD's next generation of card is an even bigger improvement for Ray tracing and upscaling but knowing my luck won't be backwards compatible for the 9070 series. What the hell do I do?? 😭
What card do you currently have?
I'd be relying on FSR4 improving and needing to be added to a LOT more games.
Is 324 games with optiscaler not enough? And keeps growing. It was only about 100 something games when it first got released.
https://github.com/optiscaler/OptiScaler/wiki/FSR4-Compatibi…
For 1440p DLSS is way clear from what I've seen.
Not as drastic difference as you say. I do agree its slightly better.
It lacks ray reconstruction but fsr 4 redstone will perhaps bring something similar to amd.
9070 XT is quite powerful currently. Are you at 4k or something? It'd be powerful enough currently surely to run native res for most current games.. So by the time up scaling is NEEDED for it to remain relevant, surely fsr4 /other variants would have matured and become more widely supported too?
Just don't use an upscaler? you're not forced to use DLSS/FSR you know.
This card is plenty good enough to get high native framerates.
For some perspective, both the RTX 40 and 50 series are both variations of TSMC 4nm products, as is the AMD 9000. The 40 series launched late 2022. Any $1000 GPU bought now will be deeply outclassed by 3nm based GPU in 18 months and any RTX 50 SUPER models before that reduces the value proposition of this card even in the short term. Right now i would be buying pre owned, it only has to last 12 months before all the 3nm leaks are out. RTX 40 4nm is already 2 years and 9 months old. Worse if next gen 3nm consoles start launching in the next 2 years that $1000 wont seem like it went real far.
we've heard this for 20 years though mate. "your brand new tech item will be superseded in 12-18 months". There will never be a point where there isn't better tech coming that will make current tech look like shit. Chasing shadows brother
yea my point was though it's not really brand new anymore, if you ignore brand loyalty stuff (nvidia, amd, sony, microsoft) and just look at TSMC, everything is moving forward late next year. Graphics cards should last at least 3 years, at this rate you'll get basically 1 year.
Your comment seems to suggest that the 9070XT will simply stop working after 1 year… Sure it may not be a top tier card after 18 months or so but it's still going to be a very decent one.
Sure. Maybe my perspective is coming from too far the opposite end with my GTX970 still (just) going, I would desire the same type of life if not more out of my next purchase.
Any $1000 GPU bought now will be deeply outclassed by 3nm based GPU in 18 months and any RTX 50 SUPER models before that reduces the value proposition of this card even in the short term. Right now i would be buying pre owned, it only has to last 12 months before all the 3nm leaks are out. RTX 40 4nm is already 2 years and 9 months old. Worse if next gen 3nm consoles start launching in the next 2 years that $1000 wont seem like it went real far.
And how much will those new cards be? It's already damn expensive as it is, and next gen isn't going to be cheaper. Can't wait till rtx 6090 that will cost $10k.
Nvidia or AMD, we've had enough variations of 4nm from TSMC that we have a video card for like every 5 FPS. The world is going to have to move on.
Is this really the deal of a lifetime?
No, just the best price at the moment.
Best deal in the last 24 hour or best deal last 6 month
Comparison with all other 9070XTs here:
https://youtu.be/4bvT5XvG65Y?t=512
Link to exact time of this card.
Contemplating between this or should I wait for black friday deal on Saphire Nitro+.
I guess you gotta weigh up whether paying this price now for 4 months extra of use is worth it versus who know what price cards will be in 4 months time and whether you'll be able to purchase one on a Black Friday deal.
Was going to wait out for the Red devil spectral 9070XT to come back into stock but went with this in white instead $1250 a week ago. Solid price if you want it in black and the slightly higher end cards are all OOS. From my research, you may drop 5 maybe FPS at best so didn't think was worth waiting on something I can use right away for some marginal performance gains and a more appealing unboxing experience. If you're on the fence, you won't regret this for that price.
Bring the PowerColor Reaper model back 😭😭😭