Segway Cube1000A 2200W 1000Wh LiFePO4 Portable Power Station $729 + Shipping ($699 Delivered with First) @ Kogan

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Power station with 2200w AC output to power almost any household appliance.
A definite cut above the cheapies with IP56 waterproofing, UPS, 4000+ cycles, expandable to 5kw, low fan noise silent up to 700W draw, good smart app features, fast AC charge under one hour, etc.

**** 2000wh model also available for $1499 First members, but odd pricing, cheaper to buy 2x1000wh models ****

I bought the 2000A model on special in Feb for $1249 as extra storage/inverter for an older campervan and it has been brilliant. The 2000A is just the 1000A with an addon 1kW battery pack. The 1000A is the better buy, more portable with a big 2200W inverter output (4400w max) for such a small package. Overseas model shown but advertised as official Australian stock, which comes with Aust. sockets and faster AC charging on 240V (not 110V),

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  • +1

    Its 240v with AU plugs, right?
    Specs say Input: 120V and show US plugs but I guess its a copy paste error?

    • +2

      It is sold by Kogan and not a third party. The product page displays

      Official Partner. Official Australian stock that comes with a manufacturer's warranty and is covered by the Kogan.com Guarantee.

      Should be ok to buy. Take a screenshot of the page just in case.

  • +1

    I have Australian stock model, which has AU plugs with 240V. Kogan says this is official Australian stock, so I'm guessing slack cut & past advertising, as you say.

    • Did you purchase from Kogan, direct from Segway AU, or another AU seller?

  • +3

    only 1 year warranty vs 5 years for Bluetti/Ecoflow

    • do their prices ever compare? I'm in the market but haven't got a good grasp on prices/brands etc. yet

      • About $1 per wh, anything less is generally good deal

    • Right and I don't really know how you would go with Kogan and this after delivery time period guarantee.

    • +1

      Segway offers 2 years Australian warranty, but only one on the AC and DC cables. But at this price they are much better value to Bluetti/Ecoflow for similar features and quality. The only issue I see is that they have largely flown under the radar in the US and here, not many sales, so Segway may ditch them to focus on their scooters at some stage.

      • +1

        I watched the first 6 mins of the video linked below and Segway were offering 5 year warranties in the US. If they've dropped it to 2 years now that's definitely a bit of a concern. I stopped watching it as soon as I saw that warranty discrepancy, even if US still gets 5 years, why drop it to 2 for Oz?!

    • That's right, bought bluetti AL180 over EOFY sale for $850 and better spec than this one, seems better value on bluetti I guess.

  • +1

    A shame it is only 1000Wh. I'm currently using the VoltX 2000W 1536Wh Portable Power Station and it would have been nice to have a higher wattage device.

    The 1536Wh battery is great on the voltx but I find that 2000W isn't enough for my DeLonghi Multigrill 1100 (it uses about 2100W when using both the top and bottom grill).

    • +2

      The bigger 2000wh Cube is also on sale at Kogan for $1499, which is cheaper than the VoltX 2000W 1536Wh at the moment. As I say, I paid $1249 for the Cube2000A a few months back, so it might be worth waiting to see if the price drops again.

    • Could you share how much it takes to empty the batteries? Like which appliance and so on

    • I've always wondered, can you just BOOST the power by supplying the extra 100W or so from the input?

      Anderson: DC 12-60V/500W max MPPT DC7909:DC 12-30V 500W max MPPT

      • What do you mean by "BOOST the power"?

  • What would be the use case for this battery within a home?

    • +5

      short term blackout coverage.
      using power tools 'down the back of the property'

      more suited to remote use, eg camping or offsite work.

    • +3

      Power for brown outs, black outs or the occasional hurricane.

  • +1

    The product photos, the lady on the train, holly lol

    • +1

      It's a caravan lol

    • +1

      Not at all bad.

  • +3

    With a product such as this, you really need a lot of reviews and feedback from others to discover hidden flaws or patterns.
    These seem to be beling cleared after no market penetration. I am interested in power stations and i didn't know these existed until today.

  • +4

    Heaps of youtube reviews, mostly glowing freebie yawns, but this one is more extensive with testing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtMWcjE5zf4

  • Could someone cleverer than me possibly tell me how many amp hours this would have, approximately? 🙏🏼

    • Irrelevant, you have the watt hours why would you need amp hours?

      But I'll entertain the question, 1024wh/220v=4.65 amp hour. Less due to heat and inefficiencies

      • +2

        It's relevant, I believe, when comparing a unit like this to an easily and cheaply obtainable 100ah battery + inverter etc. This unit may run alot of appliances, maxing out at 4400w, but its sure not going to run them for very long!

        • +2

          Amp hours is always relative to voltage - you need to think in watt hours to have a 'transferable' unit

        • +3

          As long as you compare the same voltage, that's fine.

          The 100Ah I'm guessing is at 12v so it's 1200wh, to compare to the 1024wh on the advertised product here, so only marginally more capacity

        • Watt hour is the most basic universal measurement you can use, literally. A 200watt heater will run for 5 hours from a battery that can provide 1000w for 1 hour. This battery can do 1000w per hour vs 1200watts on that battery.

          Why are you doing mental gymnastics backwards to use a figure which you then would need to make sure all the variables are the same? Ie make sure your talking the same voltage when measuring amp hours.

          If all you need are 12v camping equipment, then go get a 12v battery. Inverters drain power and there's no need buying a 2200w inverter for small appliances.

          • +1

            @krisspy: Yep, I see what you are saying. Good to know that watt hours are a more universal measurement. I have a portable power station also, with similar capacity to this unit (974wh) but also a 100ah battery and a 200ah battery. Just wondering how they all compare. It's been a long day and I completely forgot the basic principle that to find out the watt hours its simply voltage x amp hours. Still learning. Cheers.

            • +1

              @HappyPants: and it sounds like you are learning quicker than most on this subject, just make

              sure you get the safety aspect to electrics right.

  • +3

    Never will I buy from Kogan

    • This is the way

  • I wonder if the CEO keeps on in his house or would it be a bad omen.

  • +3

    Segway AU price match if you’d prefer to deal with the manufacturer directly. Wouldn’t buy from Kogan again. YMMV

    • +1

      Is Segway giving 24 month Australian Warranty (read that in comment above)?

      The Kogan listing states 12 months only?

      • +1

        I called Segway AU and they confirmed it only has 12 months assuming you don’t mention the ACL.

        The similar specced Bluetti has 5 years and is $50 cheaper. Worth a look.

        • Have you got a link to the similar Bluetti model and site that is currently $50 cheaper?

          Did you purchase one direct from Segway AU yourself, or just called to check if they

          could price match Kogan and regarging warranty period?

        • Really? That's a worry when it says 2 years on my warranty agreement, and reading further, it says 5 years on the battery only when you download the app.

          Bluetti has a better warranty on most models though, and is more established, but what similarly specced Bluetti model is $50 cheaper?

        • +1

          https://www.bluettipower.com.au/products/ac70-portable-power…

          I just double checked. I was comparing 1000wh vs 1000w cause I am dumb.

  • +1

    Here is a very good review of this power station.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdUpHYzKio&ab_channel=Noah.…

    • +2

      That was a sponsored video - he got a freebie

  • 2000wh model getting close to 40kg. Chunky boy.

    • Guess you can always get that allen key out to break it down as shown in youtube review

      and move it in 3 parts lol.

    • Huh? Where did you get that from? It's 26kg. 16kg for 1000A.

      • Yes its the way they have it listed in the specs - you could read it as battery 26kg plus 9kg inverter but looking at the weight of the battery alone, you can see that its 26kg for the 2000 model

  • +2

    No Anderson plugs, when will the manufacturers realise we use them more here than other connections.

    • Should be more efficient too if running straight off the battery (12 or 24v) and not using the inverter bits.

      • +2

        A 100Ah LiPo4 battery in the new $55 XTM battery boxes is a simple way to work with 2 x input/output

        andersons wired with 40 Amp circuit breakers Each work well. I even installed a small solar charge controller

        wired to an extra anderson as a 12 V car charging input Or solar panels. Works well for my 12 V grill that draws

        around 32 Amps.

        • +1

          Nice. I did the same but with a Hardkorr box.

          • +1

            @locknuts: I usually wait to charge/top up that battery box when my dual battery set up is full, then plug it

            in and the syatem kind of acts like a pass through charging either from alternator when driving,

            or solar or both. How do you charge yours when out and about?

            • +2

              @ozhunter68: Solar only at the moment but I'm stealing your 12v car charger idea. That's awesome.

        • +1

          " I even installed a small solar charge controller wired to an extra anderson as a 12 V car charging input"

          This is such a cool idea…are you saying that I can directly charge a LiPo4 from the car battery, by using a solar charge controller as the regulator? You don't need a DC-DC charger? Or did I read that wrong? Sorry for the questions!

          • +1

            @HappyPants: Yep, works for my old van. I have a customised self installed 200Ah battery set up with

            dc/dc charger as well as a 200W solar panel which all works great as I travel for extended

            periods and want my food And beer to always be cold. Then I got the great idea to use a 12 V

            grill for tasty hot food on the go (I do not run a big 240 V inverter as everything I use is 12 V

            or USB A/C PD. Running the grill which takes 32 Amps I would have overloaded my fuse block,

            P.S. Just make sure the controller has a setting suitable for lithium if that is what you use.

            hence the sepperate battery/box. I can charge it either off my Anderson output of the Sepperate

            dual battery system, as well as I tested this straight from the vans in dash Cig output using adaptor

            cables. It charged close to 100W straight from the car, and from the rear up to about 90 W if driving

            and batteries are 100%. When the fridge cycles on, it drops a bit to say 50 W or 40 W, but if sunny it

            bumps up to 70 W or so. Been working well without any issues I can see so far.

            • +1

              @ozhunter68: Well I never! That's a super cool setup. Almost seems like a hack. I never would have thought to do that.

              • +1

                @HappyPants: Haha, I just love tinkering and experimenting (usually after a fair bit of reading and learning

                from YouTube and sometimes also helpful comments here too).

            • +1

              @ozhunter68: I thought about doing this a while back but some 'sparky' told me it will never work and I need a DC DC charger.
              Awesome to her that all you need is an mppt controller and you can use both solar and car battery to charge your lithium battery.

              • @gtech: Yep, in my case I only used a cheap 20A PWM controller that came with a solar panel, although

                it did have a Lithium charging profile on it (just need to press a few buttons, it' was b4 setting).

                Some of the MMPT such as the small Kings one does Not have a Lithium charging option.

                When I tested first, I could see what was happening on my dual battery systems Renogy Battery

                Monitors display, as well as having an inline Watt/Amp/Volt meter plugged in the solar input of the

                battery box, both in rear batteries, as well as the cig output in the dash, both work well so far.

                Just remember, YMMV.

  • Hey Sepa, did you buy yours through Kogan or the website?

  • +1

    This guy was paid to do a review by Segway but it went wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5joLg6dikI
    He is a bit of a dick but it shows the other side of the fence with paid Youtube reviews.

    • +1

      Went for a bit long, but some interesting information here, not so much on the product but more the PR

      handling of the company and their subsidiaries or contractors. Fairly sure not unique to Segway, but looks

      like they tried to bully the wrong guy here lol.

  • +2

    For reference, this is only 83ah at 12v.

    Yesterday Kings 100ah Lifepo4 plus box was $250. For those who are new to this and on a budget definitely consider a BYO battery + inverter combo - you could easily get twice the battery capacity for this price and it's not difficult or time consuming to put together.

    • I don't think it will be that much cheaper. You will need the following
      - 2200W inverter
      - Charger that is capable of fast in 1.2hrs from 240V
      - Solar DC to DC charger at 800W - voltage input from 12V to 60V
      - The LCD interface and software integration
      - Premium battery that charges over 4000+ times compared to the Kings
      - 6 power outlet sockets
      - USB charger with dual 100w USB-C, and USB-A

      You then need to assemble these into a compact package. It is IP56 rated. It also has UPS function too. If you want more capacity you can plug the Kings 100ah Lifepo4 into the solar input at the same time to provide charge while using it. If you want to provide the full 800W solar charge you can add a step up voltage converter from 12V to 36 or 48V.

      • Both obove two comments have their merrits. For some people or use cases a 12 V powered battery

        box with 12 V & USB outputs is all that is needed, and sometimes more capacity is preferred over

        unneeded high inverter or solar charging or other features found on power stations such as this Segway.

        Some people may only need or want a smaller 600W-1000W inverter sometimes, so that would be cheaper,

        lighter, and not take up as much space as you could add it via anderson to the side when needed or not.

        If you want to build a powerstation with all the Segway features, it would certainly cost more, end up bigger,

        not be as nice and integrated without bluetoth app & certainly no firmware updates.

        In saying that I like both, have small and large powerstations, and a few different size powered battery boxes,

        some customised to suit my needs/size/budget. I say try what you want within your budget and abilities.

  • +1

    If you look at the Segway website, they state that the Battery modules are IP56,

    which to me would say the top section is not, hence they show photos/videos of

    the lower section is getting wet on the beach. Beware, the whole unit is Not IP56.

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