Philips (B22) LED 840lm 4W Ultra Efficient Globe $2.50 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store/ OnePass) @ Bunnings

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Bunnings has a bunch of these Phillips LED bulbs on sale at various prices, the Philips A60 B22 LED 840Lm Clear 4W Ultra Efficient Globe is currently $2.50 it is usually around $12.

These bulbs are claimed to achieve 200 lumens per watt, which is great for household bulbs that is about twice as efficient as normal LED bulbs. The LED's are under driven so they should last for a very long time. With LED, they have a window where you get peak RA and Kelvin so if these are under driven and not optimised they may look a bit different tint wise or maybe not?, same can be said for over driven LED's generally when over driven too hard a tint will turn cooler.

I believe big Clive done a video on similar bulbs a few years back.

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  • +10

    Good price, efficient - yes, reviews - bad.

    Multiple reviews here stating green tinted light output.

    • Buy now… Cry later… Ozbargain way

    • +5

      That is personal preference, they probably look better than CFLs, I am going to buy some I will test them with my Opple light meter and report back.

    • Probably why they are on clearance to begin with

    • +1

      I was about to say… Bought a 4W one in cool white for $6 if memory serves for use during daytime. Tint was bad enough that I concluded that I wouldn't be able to find a use for it and my only hope was returning it. Philips should be alright at tints, one would think?

      I wonder if the warm white is better.

    • +1

      Can confirm they have green tint. Horrible. I ended up removing them from bedside lamps. Didn't bother returning as I'll use them in places that it doesn't matter like garage/side of house.

  • Why is the edison screw lightbulb $5? not $2.50

    • +1

      Stronger demand.
      Only old lights use B22.
      E27 always sells faster.
      The ultimate OZB way is to buy B22 bulbs at a heavily discounted price then get some E27 to B22 Adapters on AliExp for $1.50 each.

      • +2

        đź’Ą

      • E27 to B22 Adapters

        Which aren't compliant and are an electrocution risk

        • How would you know without physically checking the product or seeing the link. I've been in my fair share of rentals and so many times has the electrician installed components purchased by the home owner and failed miserably - poor quality or yet a fire waiting to happen. And these products have been purchased from overseas through bargain basement channels.

  • +25

    I have bought a few, reviewed them (https://goughlui.com/2024/07/15/review-philips-ultra-efficie…) and have four of them installed in some places at home.

    It's definitely a great choice if you're concerned about having the greatest energy efficiency - areas where the lights are frequently left on, but colour accuracy isn't a primary concern. It has a straw-green tint regardless of the colour temperature you choose - it's obvious when there are other light sources to compare to, or when looking at photographs. This is perhaps understandable, as lumens are weighted highest towards green wavelengths where our eyes are most sensitive. But if you're under the light for a while, it's less annoying (it's as if your brain "tunes it out"). It's a bit of a less welcoming light … I'd say most CFLs are still better with regards to light quality on the whole, but the efficiency difference is undeniable.

    Perhaps worth a try for hallways, staircases, outdoor security applications.

    • +4

      I must say, that is a pretty in-depth review you have there! I can't think of anything that you missed, impressive.

    • +2

      Oh wow. You're the author of that site. I remember reading this exact review before buying two from Bunnings to try out myself. Thank you for writing this up.

      I got the 4W cool white variant of this globe, and the green tint is a bit too much for my liking, but the globes do run very cool. I installed the lights into less used areas.

      Do you know any other high efficiency globes but with better colour accuracy? I have a few normal Philips 11W 1250Lm cool white globes, but one of them has already burned out with not that much usage. I'm assuming high efficiency globes have longer lifespan because they don't overdrive the LEDs?

      • +6

        Indeed I am … (or am I?)

        One could get better efficiency under-driving the LEDs, but as far as I can tell, commercially made globes just don't find it economically viable to do. It's cut-throat competition when some globes are close to AU$1 in multi-packs and that's after everyone has taken profit along the way, so they chase price while keeping the efficacy somewhere around 100-130lm/W and lifetime in the 15k-25k hour range. For the manufacturers, globes now last almost /too long/ from a commercial standpoint as manufacturers are staring down the barrel of not seeing repeat business for a long time.

        Ultimately, I don't think the situation as it is is bad - considering that even if you get a ~200lm/W globe, you're halving an already very low power consumption (often in the single-digit of watts), so any savings aren't really all that financially motivated. For example, in my 470lm LED globe round-up (https://goughlui.com/2024/06/25/470lm-of-fun-click-6w-ikea-s…), lifetime cost of energy for a single globe ranged from $17-$26 at 15k hours on "ordinary" efficiency LEDs. So even if the ultra-efficient globes are twice as efficient, you're going to be waiting a couple of 24/7 years of operation to see that $8-$13 saving per globe. So perhaps more of a big deal for those with a /lot/ of lights running all of the time. Most household users see closer to 3h/day operation, which blows that out to 16 years. Some may say the savings just aren't worth it - all those years of strange colour tint … just to save a measily $0.25-$0.50 a year?

        Oddly enough, where I do find myself needing nice, quality task lighting - I've ended up using photographic high-CRI LED panels, high-CRI rechargeable fill-lights, high-CRI LED torches or high-CRI LED monitor light-bars. I've not seen any high-CRI globes locally, but they probably exist for professional and photographic applications. I just think that many households are moving away from such GLS globe fittings towards LED-integrated fixtures, which may be more optimal for LED optics and heat dissipation, albeit requiring the whole fixture to be replaced once it fails.

        If you have issues with ordinary LED globes, chances are your fittings are causing them to cook. Older oyster fittings and some types of downlight cans are amongst the worst type of fittings for such LEDs which rely on their "neck" as a heatsink. Double-oysters, while you may be able to cram the larger Philips 11/13W type globes in there for a nice amount of light, barely let any air circulate around the globes which lead to early failures often due to electronic driver failure and rapid lumen depreciation otherwise (as the LED chips running hot accelerate their demise). Perhaps if you have such a fitting, my suggestion would be to leave the covers off (albeit, lowering the aesthetic appeal and increasing the potential for glare) or live with lower-powered globes and use supplementary lighting (e.g. a separate desk lamp, up-lighter, etc). Ultimately, replacement of the luminaire with an LED integrated fitting might be the best option.

        • +1

          I have tested some bulbs, and they are around 88-90CRI, with a 2700k tint, they were the last ones I got on sale from Bunnings.
          https://www.bunnings.com.au/osram-10w-1050lm-ww-b22-led-stic…

        • +1

          yes - I've used a number of these in outdoor garden bollard glass enclosures - where they haven't lasted so long - but they still paid for themselves in no time compared to 15W CFL bulbs - so that was a question of purchase cost vs labour cost to replace - I gave up in the end

          so yes - beware that any enclosure is likely to reduce the life of LED bulbs.

        • +1

          Thanks for the detailed write up again.

          Personally, I don't mind paying a few more dollars to buy globes that last for a decade, even though a lot can happen in that time. I'm not all that fussed about efficiency and running costs (as long as they are at least ~100lm/W). I've always been disillusioned to believe that LEDs last "effectively forever" and was surprised to see a few LED globes (from Mirabella, Philips) burn out in just 1 to 2 years under moderate-heavy usage. Therefore, I thought (perhaps another misconception) that high efficiency globes (like the one in this post with ~200lm/W) will actually last longer by under-driving the LEDs.

          I'm not well versed in lighting terminology. I looked up what oyster fittings and double-oyster light fittings are, but I don't think I use either of those. I install my globes (standard B22 globe) into plastic batten lamp holder installed on the ceiling and then covered with a 150mm sphere light fitting.

          I will try your suggestion by using lower-powered globes or removing the light fitting when my next bulb burns out.

          • +1

            @8bitsperbyte: Regular plastic battens are usually okay - but covering it with an enclosed sphere basically puts a "blanket" of still air over the globe which is suffocating the globe. If it seals all the way around, it might even be worse than oyster fittings. Strongly recommend not having the spherical covering - especially if using globes which have a decent diffuser already or are higher wattage.

            In my experience, most of my LED globes have lasted more than 5-years. A good chunk of my fleet outlived the fittings they were in (i.e. they were still working when the fitting got replaced on a house remodel) but probably not on a lumen depreciation (i.e. they lost more than 30% of the original output usually considered end-of-life).

      • +3

        The better the CRI the less efficient a LED will be, all the most efficient LEDs are cool white and low CRI.

    • what light bulbs would you recommend in 2700k for general lighting applications in lamps and ceiling lights etc for home?

  • -7

    These days Australian consumers care as much about energy efficiency as Putin cares about being nice.

  • +2

    Very detailed review here: https://goughlui.com/2024/07/15/review-philips-ultra-efficie…

    Edit: nvm, the author of the article is an Ozbargainer too :D

  • +3

    Okay so I went to a random Bunnings as I was around that area, they only had the (UE7.3W27KB22FR) B22 7.3w 1535 Lumen bulb that I was interested in,

    My usual LED in this room is an Osram 12w 1300 Lumen same series as this one linked, but Bunnings no longer sells them.
    https://www.bunnings.com.au/osram-10w-1050lm-ww-b22-led-stic…

    Both the bulbs were measured at the same distance about 1.5m straight under the bulb, some variance will occur because of the differing shapes and the diffuser used.
    Osram 12w 1300 lumen in warm white 2700k
    Lux= 82
    CRI= 89.1
    R9= 45.9
    https://postimg.cc/WtYDKqbQ
    https://postimg.cc/56ZX9czg
    https://postimg.cc/TyxhmrCW

    Phillips 7.3w 1535 lumens in warm white 2700k (https://www.bunnings.com.au/philips-a60-b22-led-1535lm-warm-…)
    Lux= 79
    CRI = 81.2
    R9= 25.4
    https://postimg.cc/YvYhhXfH
    https://postimg.cc/ns1r1CPS
    https://postimg.cc/hzPjZKFD

    Not a huge difference between the two, the Osram has more of a red hue, they are closer than I thought they would be.

  • These also on special, 6 volcano bulbs for $15 - https://www.bunnings.com.au/philips-spiral-b22-cfl-950lm-war…

  • I'll just leave this link here for easy browsing. https://www.bunnings.com.au/products/lighting-electrical/lig…

  • +3

    From reviews, would be great if you were the Hulk, Elphaba, Shrek or the Grinch.

  • Wish these were dimmable. It’s a challenge to find dimmable B22 LED’s.

  • Is there somewhere we can buy the Phillips Dubai lamp?

  • these are nice and small bulbs for the brightness they got. But definitely they are green, if you got white walls then its very apparent.

  • Bought the e27 x 2 for garage so tint won't matter

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