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clubhonda on 16/08/2025 - 00:52

+23

Na, why take the risks travelling to the US now and potentially be sent back or body searched or locked up with no calls and lied to? Happened even to one Aussie ex cop. Even DFAT has dire warnings even if they did not change the overall rating from green.
- AircraftFreight on 16/08/2025 - 00:56 Comment score below threshold.
  - odysseus on 16/08/2025 - 02:05
    
    +8
    
    "the Australian visitors who have been refused immigration clearance have done so on the basis of entering the US on the wrong visa type, travelling for volunteering or work - same process as here in Australia, you get locked up without the ability to talk to anyone, lied to in some cases before being returned to your home country."
    
    Not true.
    
    Just a couple of examples:
    https://www.smh.com.au/traveller/travel-news/an-australian-w…
    
    https://cruisepassenger.com.au/news/aussie-couple-forced-to-…
    
    And no, here you don't get lied to and deported just because they don't like something about you. In the second case where the records were clearly wrong, Aust authorities would likely grant you a waiver to enter, not just 'computer says no' you.
  - Lizard Spock on 16/08/2025 - 08:52
    
    +1
    
    Ive crossed the US Border 6 times since the Trump Administration came into effect
    
    I mean yeah, the MAGA hat you wear makes a big difference.
- escaleraRN on 16/08/2025 - 01:18
  
  +16
  
  exactly this reason.
  
  even if this is free, not going to risk it. so much other countries to visit than the US.
  
  maybe when they have a proper sitting president and not some clown in white house, then maybe.
  
  Hawaii is always a treat to visit though. 😊
- zubzub on 16/08/2025 - 02:14
  
  That’s a risk when travelling anywhere. Any country has the right to refuse you entry for any reason.
  - Igaf on 17/08/2025 - 13:43
    
    No kidding.
    
    Another fun fact. The Earth isn't flat.
    - zubzub on 17/08/2025 - 14:03
      
      Saying to not travel to the US because of some extremely rare fringe cases is not good advice. Most likely the rate of this happening is marginally different pre-Trump.
      - Igaf on 17/08/2025 - 16:09
        
        @zubzub: Even more likely, you haven't got a clue. There's a reason why refusal data isn't being released AND why visitor numbers to the USA are tanking. I'll leave you to work out why but there's more than enough reports to suggest that for particular people at some entry points the risk is unacceptably high, especially given the expenses involved and the fact that you have no recourse when faced with a bureaucracy operating on fear and xenophobia.
        
        zubzub on 17/08/2025 - 16:34
        
        @Igaf: Refusal data publication is the same it has been for ages to my knowledge. Happy to be proven otherwise. I would hardly say visitor numbers are tanking, certainly down but that’s globally, not specific to the US. So without this refusal data, all you have is an opinion, and like I said earlier, a few fringe cases blown up by the media. Womp, womp. ‘Fear and Xenophobia’ …. Here we go, what colour is your hair? Blue or purple? Just stop, I don’t want to read your follow up and lose brain cells.
        
        Igaf on 17/08/2025 - 19:31
        
        @zubzub:
        
        Refusal data publication is the same it has been for ages to my knowledge.
        
        I'd suggest you learn what the word knowledge means before you misuse it again but I think that might be quite a stretch in your case. If you bothered to do some reading about the politics and actions of the Trump administration you possibly wouldn't be as naive as you appear to be. Here's just one clue, which you may have noticed during your navel gazing rest period: dont like employment figures, remove the chief statistician. Here's another: dont like climate data because it doesn't suit your supporters narrative? Sack scientists, remove funding and put someone in charge who's prepared to overlook your doodling on weather maps. Still with me? Need more examples?
        
        Wrt xenophobia. In your own words explain how the actions we've seen by ICE agents in that god-forsaken country aren't "racial profiling".
        
        Whether you "think" tourism isn't tanking in Trump's America is irrelevant - the facts are clear for anyone to see, as are the reasons for the significant downturn. Just a couple of numerous articles on the topic : Trump travel fears put $100m of Flight Centre earnings at risk
        https://theconversation.com/tourism-to-the-us-is-tanking-fli…
        Let me know if you need more.
        
        Just stop, I don’t want to read your follow up and lose brain cells.
        
        Understand your dilemma, but no need to panic yet. Knowledge usually has the opposite effect, even for those with ideologically-limited - ie entirely self-inficted - cognition problems
        
        zubzub on 17/08/2025 - 19:50
        
        @Igaf: Your argument was based on refusal data - data that isn’t published lol.
        
        Tourism being down vs using a word like ‘tanking’ is very different. I never disagreed with you that it’s down.
        
        Racial profiling why? Because it’s mostly say, Mexicans being deported, could it be.. I don’t know maybe because that’s the largest group of illegal immigrants? Key word being ILLEGAL. You’re a fool.
        
        America BY FAR has the largest immigration numbers on earth - what a horrible place, so horrible everyone wants to go there.
        
        Haha that’s enough from me. There is enough egg on your face already.
        
        Igaf on 17/08/2025 - 21:15
        
        @zubzub:
        
        Your argument was based on refusal data - data that isn’t published lol.
        
        Why not, surely Trump and his acolytes want their more extreme supporters to know what a great job they're doing in keeping out the riff-raff? It's not coincidental that countries which disappear citizens and long time residents are the same countries which demand fealty and thumb their noses at the rule of law. Ringing any alarm bells? I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.
        
        Racial profiling why? Because it’s mostly say, Mexicans being deported, could it be.. I don’t know maybe because that’s the largest group of illegal immigrants? Key word being ILLEGAL. You’re a fool.
        
        You certainly don't know, that's a given for the demographic. Are you simply comfortable in your ignorance or unable to face the reality of your chosen ideology? My guess is both. I've already suggested you need to read more. If you did you'd know I wasn't talking about deportations of "illegals" (funny how many of them aren't illegal eh?) but on the obvious racial profiling by ICE agents. When you're on a bounty there's no time to waste I guess. I'd ask how you'd feel if you were accosted by masked, armoured and armed immigration officers in this country and asked to produce proof of your citizenship but I'm sure you'd think it quite normal and are looking forward to the day it happens here. Hopefully you'll be very disappointed, OR the immagration agents will all be indigenous. The irony. I confess to caring not one iota for this bloke: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-hispanic-deta… I need to be better.
        
        America has long been a place of extremes and massive contradictions but mostly it's been a real force for good over the last hundred years. It seems to believe that it's the bastion of democracy yet as we're currently seeing you could drive a tank through the holes in its system of federal "govt". 90 million Americans have already given up on their democracy but if they and their countrymen and women don't get their fingers out, and soon, then the very essence of what Americans supposedly hold dear will be frittered away. And THAT would be both sad and bad for much of the rest of the world, despite its MANY flaws.
        
        zubzub on 17/08/2025 - 21:40
        
        @Igaf: Hahah so predictable….
        
        Wahhh it’s all Trumps fault for not releasing data that has never been released before.
        
        They are only deporting illegals. The rare fringe cases of what is basically a clerical error pretty much does not substantiate your ridiculous argument. If I was in a country illegally and got caught and deported I may be upset, but I’m not stupid.. I’d know exactly why I’m in that situation. How about you go through the legal process of entering a country LEGALLY like every other person does.
        
        You need to stop using AI to write your shit. You’re a cooky cutter libtard and it’s always the same arguments. So easy to dismantle. I love knowing your tiny little brain is going to be triggered for at least the next decade as Republicans own the White House. It brings me joy. I think I’ve run out of eggs for you, I’ll have to pop down to the shop and get some more.
        
        Igaf on 17/08/2025 - 22:58
        
        @zubzub:
        
        Hahah so predictable….
        
        You certainly are, although no-one would be even vaguely surprised by that given your demographic. The lack of interest in facts and reality is a dead give away, as is the complete lack of social conscience.
        
        I don't know what made you think I give a fig about your situation but perhaps I should have explained better given your limited comprehension. I was generalising, trying to appeal to whatever's left of your learned "conscience".
        
        Here's another reality check. It's patently obvious that you don't know anything about who they're deporting, nor do you know - or care - how they do it. Again that's fairly typical of the demographic. Ignorance is bliss - as long as you aren't caught in the web.
        
        How about you go through the legal process of entering a country LEGALLY like every other person does.
        
        Like Musk for example? Or the German scientists "invited" to America post WWII? You really don't have any clue at all do you? As most know there are many reasons why people are undocumented in the USA. A cursory search and read will get you up to speed on the basics of that, the complexities will require a few more decades of life experience and in all probability an anterior insular cortex transplant to boot. A different search will uncover "illegals" contributions to the USA economy, and another the cost of actually deporting people. Care to hazard an ignoramus' guess? No, didn't think so. Suffice to say that it's about the same or a little less than the cost of Trump's tax breaks to the wealthy.
        
        Obviously you don't think I use AI to write my comments - or maybe you really do, that wouldn't surprise given your lack of basic knowledge - but given it's your only shot at deriding them I fully understand your predicament. Been firing blanks all your life have you?
        
        Here's another clue for you on basic American politics, another topic you clearly know sfa about. Republicans don't own the White House, the White House (currently) owns them. Now this might be both legally and constitutionally arse about but as Trump has suggested many times the Constitution doesn't apply to him. Or to quote him precisely "I don't know" ([care] if I have to uphold the Consititution)". Convenient for him that he "doesn't know" because as you (double cough) know the Constitution specifically limits Presidential powers, although many might wonder about that given recent highly partisan and even more highly questionable rulings from Roberts' SCOTUS and Roberts himself.
        
        Looking forward to your next "dismantling". You may not read much and understand even less but you might be learning a little by osmosis.
        
        zubzub on 17/08/2025 - 23:20
        
        @Igaf: Amazing that you use Grok and then try to use Musk as an example when he legally immigrated. Your Nazi scientist example is correct, it’s also almost 100 years ago. Is that the best you got? Back to Grok for some copy pasta and small edits to try and hide it lol… sad that you use AI and still embarrassed yourself. Just quit, you’re just not smart enough, even with assistance.
        
        Igaf on 18/08/2025 - 12:53
        
        @zubzub: What ought to be amazing in a relatively educated society with ready access to huge sources of credible information is that your comments are littered with half truths, gross ignorance of quite well-known tissues, and denial of facts. The fact that it isn't "amazing" and barely rates public mention these days is a testament to many things, including credulousness, ego - a huge factor, hypocrisy, and the effects of blind ideology. If you want to learn more about why people are ideologues and where that can lead there's a huge range of discussion available to you. Even your go-to AI might be able to turn up some recommended reading but personally I wouldn't rely on it if I were you because clearly it hasn't helped so far. It certainly won't help your inability to think rationally or critically, or to understand how societies and freedoms work but it might give you the shock you need to at least start the thinking (as against the believing) process.
        
        Musks's history is very common knowledge, especially as he outed himself last year. I'd hazard an educated guess that even your much loved and often wildly inaccurate AI assistant might be able to educate you on that topic if you bothered to ask it. It has obviously confirmed my comment about German scientists whose work underpinned American military strength so you've learned at least a tiny amount through your interaction here. Seems you missed the point of those examples though, which again isn't surprising. Nor is the fact that you aren't aware that the Trump administration has deported people with legal rights to live and work in the USA and arbitrarily denied re/entry to others with valid documents and approvals. Seems you were sleeping as these things were happening. Try to keep up. Give your favourite AI a hammering if need be. It's unlikely to be accurate but you should at least get the gist of topics you have an opinion on, which is always handy.
        
        zubzub on 18/08/2025 - 13:21
        
        @Igaf: Hahah your arrogance is outstanding. You are so convinced you speak from a position of authority. You are the exact thing you judge me - a close minded dimwit, but you are way too egotistical to ever see it. Is your argument on Musk really going to be ‘look it up’? and more fringe cases to try and validate your baseless claims? Guess I was right again. Like I said, you are a cookie-cutter libtard. Purple or green hair, nose ring and 4 cats. Let me stir you up a bit more for my entertainment. If Musk is in the country illegally, why hasn’t he been deported? Brb, making some popcorn. Ready to be entertained. Dance, libtard, dance.
        
        Igaf on 18/08/2025 - 13:44
        
        @zubzub: Did I say Musk was in the USA illegally or did your ideological kiddie brain (popcorn?) - the little of it you use to form your opinions - assume that was the case? Even if he was illegally in the USA do you really think he'd be deported? Rhetorical question, because we long since established that your combined knowledge and thinking ability are constrained by both your ideology and it seems your puerility. Ego, lack of life experience and lack of even average empathy will do that. Lack of basic knowledge doesnt help.
        
        zubzub on 18/08/2025 - 15:49
        
        @Igaf: Hahah well looks like you’ve died down a bit. Might be time to wrap it up. I just want you to remember the whole premise to our lovely chat was you being a smartass and telling me that I ‘don’t have a clue’ because you based your argument on data that is not released to the public… absolutely priceless. It’s been fun owning you… next time you see my comments just skip on by.
        
        Igaf on 18/08/2025 - 16:07
        
        @zubzub: Hahah/a. Looks like you missed the pointed sarcasm. Phone a friend and see if they can help. Your AI mate can't because the Musk reference requires a thought process well beyond it at this point, ie hypothetical extrapolation based on known patterns of behaviour, followed by commentary on the obvious hypocrisy and dishonesty involved - not to mention the irony.
        
        Just so you don't embarrass yourself further - here or elsewhere you pop your burgeoning head above the parapet without suitable 'armour and ammunition' (in this case basic argument construction and knowledge of a topic) - America used to publish refusal data at least annually, in quite a bit of detail as it happens. Your "AI" may be able to help if you ever learn to ask the right questions, although even then intelligent interpretation may be required and that's a rather big step for you.
        
        Just a thought to take with you in your journey towards some level of adulthood: Your notion of what "knowledge", "dismantling" and "owning" are needs quite a bit of work to reach even the bottom rung but if it comforts you in your self-inflicted ignorance to believe you've "owned" someone I'm happy to oblige.
        
        zubzub on 18/08/2025 - 16:17
        
        @Igaf: I don’t put much effort into reading your messages or replying to you, it’s all off the cuff. I don’t care what a random person on the internet thinks, it’s just fun.
        
        When did they publish this data? Certainly not to be relevant to the whole premise of this thread and your argument haha, so why even bring it up? You’re like the gift that keeps on giving.
        
        Even though you are only writing text, I can tell how mad you are, I can tell you believe you are somehow an intellectual superior, even with AI. You’re probably a reddit moderator haha.
        
        Igaf on 19/08/2025 - 12:16
        
        @zubzub: I'm wiriting text? Just a few comments in and you've already already ditched your childish AI claim? Well knock me down with a feather.
        
        Stating the obvious but it's clear you don't put much effort into reading anything - or being even moderately informed for that matter. Opinionated ignorance and lack of any empathy are typical characteristics of a particular demographic. Sadly, not rare for this website. It might help your need for self assurance if you keep the puerile cliches like "the gift that keeps on giving, haha, popcorn, dismantling, owned you" etc to a minimum, although you should eventually learn that utimately nothing will disguise comments based on "beliefs" and ideological ignorance. In the future you might want to learn how to write a cogent adult sentence - preferably one with a modicum of knowledge and thought to back it up. Then your need to believe that you "owned" someone on an anonymous website might have just a tiny bit of credence.
        
        zubzub on 19/08/2025 - 12:53
        
        @Igaf: Wouldn’t it be funny if I told you I was a Hispanic immigrant? I guess you’re wrong… again. Do you normally sympathise with criminals or is it exclusive to virtue signalling?
        
        Igaf on 19/08/2025 - 13:21
        
        @zubzub: Bingo. Virtue signalling. Straight out of your demographic's playbook.
        
        Your ethnicity is irrelevant, even if true, unless of course you erroneously "believe" (that word again) that all Hispanics (insert whatever group you like) think and act the same and have the same lack of social awareness and knowledge that you appear to have .
        
        "Criminals?". No need to further demonstrate your ignorance or lack of empathy. When you grow up you should learn why courts of law are usually left to decide that. You might even learn that (most) courts don't deal in the childish, simplistic, black and white notions of criminality you're embracing.
        
        zubzub on 19/08/2025 - 13:35
        
        @Igaf: Well if the shoe fits …
        
        It’s quite relevant. We’re talking about immigration and people generally of my ethnicity… something I have first hand experience in and I would bet just about anything you don’t. So yeah… relevant.
        
        Last time I checked, it’s illegal to enter the US without papers and through a port of entry. Wrong again. Imagine thinking you’re going to hold court for tens of millions of people, what planet do you live on… that’s never going to be feasible. Trump received something like half of the Latino vote for 2024, think about that for a second.
        
        Igaf on 19/08/2025 - 15:12
        
        @zubzub: So your premise is that your experience (which is obviously nothing like the current experience of some Hispanics in the USA) mirrors that of every Hispanic's? Not that you're aware of what's going on in the USA but the notion is demonstrably nonsense - a strength of yours, as is the notion that all Hispanics/ethnics hold your views. How do I know? Apart from life experience and wide reading I happen to be married to an "ethnic", and I don't need to ask her what she thinks of your "values" because I'm very familiar with her views.
        
        I'm well aware that Trump received many Latino votes. Unlike you I'm also aware of the voter regret amongst some of that demographic. As the saying goes - be careful what you wish for. I've also "thought" about what sort of awareness and standards people have which would lead them to vote for a felon who tried to overthrow democracy, and but for timidity and too much caution, should have been tried for inciting insurrection. IF you bothered to read what the US Constution says you'll find a description which precisely fits Trump. The Founding Fathers may not have known about the dangers of future armaments (hence the naive right to bear arms) but they sure as hell knew the dangers of people like Trump. Need a reference?
        
        There is nothing wrong with countries attempting to control borders and immigration. There's PLENTY wrong with using cheap labour for decades then unceremoniously snatching hard working, law abiding, taxpaying people - often breadwinners with families, including children born in the USA - off the streets, locking them up and deporting them without due process. The only thing separating that from the actions of particular regimes in South America and elsewhere is that they aren't executing them. THAT's an experience you don't have, and hopefully never will.
        
        A bit of reading for you: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-07-02/trump-la… There's PLENTY more if you ever decide to educate yourself on current affairs.
        
        zubzub on 19/08/2025 - 15:41
        
        @Igaf: What a silly thing to say. When did I ever say all Hispanics share my view? You are really reaching there.
        
        Voter regret, based on what? Your bubble? Trump couldn't be any more clear what his intentions were if he won office. Deporting illegals is what got him the Presidancy, so to say there is voter regret over it makes absolutley no sense, whatsoever.
        
        It's not that I dont feel empathy for some of the people being deported, I do… but it's them for not following the correct steps to get citizenship in the first place. It is not another countries problem. And I am not even getting into the MANY violent criminals who aren't just your standard illegal immigrant.
        
        So the latimes(ha) says approval with Latinos has dropped from almost half to a third - The assumption is because of immigration, but it could be for anything, so that really doesn't say much. Even if we go with their stats, 30% of people being deported have criminal records, you don't find that alarming? Thats basically 1 in 3 people… That is INSANE. I am also pretty sure you cannot deport people born in the USA. Of course you will bring up fringe cases, but generally speaking that is just FALSE.
        
        Igaf on 19/08/2025 - 17:34
        
        @zubzub:
        
        What a silly thing to say. When did I ever say all Hispanics share my view? You are really reaching there.
        
        Quote: "It’s quite relevant. We’re talking about immigration and people generally of my ethnicity… something I have first hand experience in and I would bet just about anything you don’t. So yeah… relevant."
        
        Voter regret, based on what? Your bubble? Trump couldn't be any more clear what his intentions were if he won office. Deporting illegals is what got him the Presidancy, so to say there is voter regret over it makes absolutley no sense, whatsoever.
        
        Your ignorance is profound. There's plenty of commentary on the topic of voter regret but your ideology and ego apparently stops you from reading it. There's also plenty of commentary from people who claim to have voted for Trump on the basis of deporting illegals with criminal records "not undocumented law abiding people". Had you bothered to read my links you'd have seen that explicitly mentioned. If you ever learn to search and read you'll no doubt find other references.
        
        So the latimes(ha) says approval with Latinos has dropped from almost half to a third - The assumption is because of immigration, but it could be for anything, so that really doesn't say much. Even if we go with their stats, 30% of people being deported have criminal records, you don't find that alarming? Thats basically 1 in 3 people… That is INSANE.
        
        You really have no clue at all do you. I've already suggeted to do some reading to at least get a feel for the issues and complexities but apparently that's way beytond your abilities. A criminal record might include something as innocuous as smoking a reefer decades ago. That's why courts are critical. Oddly enough /s Reps doing lines and having relations with underaged girls is apparently no problem. The hypocrisy of the Republican Party and its "religious" backers has no limits.
        
        I am also pretty sure you cannot deport people born in the USA. Of course you will bring up fringe cases, but generally speaking that is just FALSE.
        
        What happened to the empathy? Or do you only have empathy for large groups? As you know (cue another sarcasm emoji), Trump canvassed the option of deporting the offspring of "illegals" and asked his lackies to see if they could find a loophole to the Birthright citizenship guarantee in the Constutution. As you aso know he issued an Executive Order seeking to end that constitutionally-guaranteed right. Shocked are you?
        
        Speaking of violent criminals - any thoughts on the insurrectionists encouraged then later pardoned by Trump? How about his racist, antisemitic, and white supremacist Proud Boys? "Some very fine people" indeed.
        https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/12/trump-racist-rhetor…
        
        Here's some background on the impediments to citizenship for "illegals": https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/why-do…
        As I've already mentioned many times there's plenty more when/if you finally decide to inform yourself.
        
        Naivety is sometimes charming, sometimes excusable. When acompanied by self-inflicted/ideological ignorance it's odious.
        
        I'll leave you with this philosophical truism from Ahmed Kathrada: The hardest thing to open is a closed mind.
        
        zubzub on 19/08/2025 - 18:54
        
        @Igaf: Far out man. I’m on a phone here, no need for the novel.
        
        Still don’t see where I said all Hispanics share my view. Was merely stating I understand things you wouldn’t about.. you know, my own culture.
        
        I’m apparently ignorant because you saw some commentary that shares your views so you must be right, do you know how ridiculous that sounds? You understand what an echo chamber is?
        
        My empathy? What happened to just the plain old truth? You went from citizens being deported to Trump mentioning he wanted to deport them but it never happened. It’s a bit scary you can’t differentiate actions and words. But a lie is no big deal to you - I haven’t forgotten about the made up data you started this with lol.
        
        Jan 6th was bad. I condemn it. Unlike you, I can praise Trump for his good deeds and condemn him for his bad actions. I don’t blindly hate someone even if they do good things. I’m a moderate, not an extremist like you. You know damn well 99% of those people didn’t deserve those sentences, and they did serve years in jail before the pardon. But I bet the black lives matters riots that were far worse was just people fighting for justice in your eyes.
        
        If Trump found a cure for cancer tomorrow, you are the kind of person to find something wrong with that. There is no reasoning with a person like you. I don’t know if you have some white guilt or what it is, but I was not kidding when I said you are a cookie cutter libtard. As childish as I know it is to say that, it is what it is.
        
        Igaf on 19/08/2025 - 22:43
        
        @zubzub:
        
        Still don’t see where I said all Hispanics share my view. Was merely stating I understand things you wouldn’t about.. you know, my own culture.
        
        You have no clue about what's happening to Hispanics in America, nor do you have any appreciation of the human misery being caused to families. If that's your baseline for "understanding my culture" then you've clearly got a lot to learn.
        
        I’m apparently ignorant because you saw some commentary that shares your views so you must be right, do you know how ridiculous that sounds? You understand what an echo chamber is?
        
        No you're both extremely naive and uninformed because you've chosen to be that way, hence my previous comments. Your last comment suggests that I grossly underestimated just how little you know and understand. Ideology will do that but ONLY if you let it. It's a CHOICE.
        
        My empathy? What happened to just the plain old truth? You went from citizens being deported to Trump mentioning he wanted to deport them but it never happened. It’s a bit scary you can’t differentiate actions and words. But a lie is no big deal to you - I haven’t forgotten about the made up data you started this with lol.
        
        We've already covered that red herring. I didn't make up anything, there are multiple reports available to anyone with a modicum of interest and intelligence. I'm probably seeing more than most Australians would because I've previously read similar articles (you understand how that works presumably) but that doesn't excuse you at all. That you can't be bothered to find and read them is instructive. Here's another reality check: your obliviousness to, and lack of interest in, the realities of others doesn't make them any less real.
        
        Jan 6th was bad. I condemn it. Unlike you, I can praise Trump for his good deeds and condemn him for his bad actions. I don’t blindly hate someone even if they do good things. I’m a moderate, not an extremist like you. You know damn well 99% of those people didn’t deserve those sentences, and they did serve years in jail before the pardon. But I bet the black lives matters riots that were far worse was just people fighting for justice in your eyes.
        
        I don't know any such thing but thanks for inventing a straw man which reinforces the fact that you (1) haven't bothered to watch the videos (or perhaps you did and are too naive to understand what happened and why - 50/50 coin toss) let alone (2) followed the subsequent testimonies of those present, or (3) looked at the evidence (and admissions of guilt in many cases) which convicted them, or (4) bothered to read why the court verdicts were as they were. ALL of which is publicly available and has been for a very long time. What's holding you back?
        
        If Trump found a cure for cancer tomorrow, you are the kind of person to find something wrong with that. There is no reasoning with a person like you. I don’t know if you have some white guilt or what it is, but I was not kidding when I said you are a cookie cutter libtard. As childish as I know it is to say that, it is what it is.
        
        Trump's not finding a cure for cancer but you keep fantasing. In fact - as you know /s - he's installed a vaccine skeptic into the public health health portfolio and made deep cuts into medical research, including $1B from the NCI. Read it and weep: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5468112/ His cuts to USAID alone are estimated to cost many many lives worldwide. Care to hazard a guess how many? Up to 14 million. https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/07/01/nx-s1… As a road safety ad you should have seen goes: "They're my family." "How many deaths are acceptable now?" " None." There's your hero in a nutshell - a self-absorbed sociopath.
        
        There's more, when you're ready to take your first dolly step into the real world.
        
        Sincere apologies for the bluntness btw but some things are far too important to be euphemised about.
        
        zubzub on 20/08/2025 - 13:24
        
        @Igaf: There are counter arguments or articles I could post to everything you said. Then you’re going to come back with yours and we are going to keep going forever. I do not care that much about a random persons opinion. We aren’t going to change each other’s minds here, obviously. Politicians are all dirt bags, the essence of being a high powered politician means you have to be. It’s a dirty, ugly, cutthroat game of high stakes. I tend to praise what they do good and condone when they do bad. Would you rather have had the dimwitted Kamala or alzheimers Biden in office? Are we going to pretend they are a shining light of beacon compared to Trump? They are arguably, worse for the country that Trump is. My advice to you is stop with the blind hatred you no doubt have for people like Trump or Musk and appreciate when they do good. It’s easy to hold the US responsible for the world’s problems, but they aren’t. You know damn well USAID for as much good as it may have done was a corrupt entity used as a cover up for bribes. It had to go. Trump has stopped wars and continues to try to do so, whether for ego or being genuine it’s a good thing. Chill out a bit and take it for what it is. Everything else is just a matter of an opinion we will never share - so be it. I’m ok with that. I’m even glad we don’t agree because that’s what creates progress. Be mad at my opinions, as long as you’re ok with me having them then that’s fine by me.
        
        Igaf on 20/08/2025 - 14:42
        
        @zubzub: On the other hand I do value your opinion because it's so obviously well-informed and balanced. "dimwitted Kamala"? She has qualifications, knowledge, expereince and abilities you (and I) can only dream of, and clearly will never reach. She made Trump look like the fool and fraud he is in their only debate, so if she's "dimwitted" what does that make your pinup boy Trump? So badly did she beat him that he refused to take her on again, not because he thought she'd turn the election but because his ego is ludicrously fragile.
        
        Given you know next to nothing about the USA I'll give your comment that they are "worse for the country" the respect that it deserves. Your lack of knowledge, understanding and immaturity shields you from the Trump Administration's (Project25) obvious attacks on democracy and the rule of law, the partisanship, the constant lies, the inane retribution, the bullying of institutions, the use of the Presidency to further personal and family wealth, and of course the horrific acts of ICE agents which - according to you - are okay bacuse you have some level of Hispanic background. Suffice to say that your opinions on everything discussed here to date has as much credence as your claims of empathy.
        
        Be mad at my opinions, as long as you’re ok with me having them then that’s fine by me.
        
        Inanity, self-imposed ignorance and ideological blindness are all odious in the extreme. and your comments here have all those traits.
        
        I'll analyse what you're suggesting just a little to show how puerile and inane it is. It suggests that I should agree that it's fine for racists, anti-semites, misogynists and white supremacists to hold - and more importantly freely EXPRESS - their views. Should I also extend that to paedophiles, sex trafficers, and enslavers in general or is there a cutoff somewhere as to what are acceptable opinions?
        
        The irony of a blind Trump supporter suggesting that I need to "be fine with their opinion" is palpable, since it is your hypocritical sociopathic hero who demands fealty, sacks those who hold differing views but would still carry out their duties professionally (inc senior defence people as you know - can't find a sarcasm emoji big enough for that so I'll leave it to your imagination, which is clearly capable of controlling your prefontal cortex).
        
        I’m even glad we don’t agree because that’s what creates progress.
        
        This is puerile tosh, even for this website. Your posts have shown zero evidence of "progress" and in fact have deteriorated as you went along, culminating in the arrant nonsense you wrote about the insurrectionists above. You are a long way down the blind ideology rabbit hole. Only you can remedy that.
        
        zubzub on 20/08/2025 - 16:06
        
        @Igaf: Why do you defy logic? I mean, you seem smart enough to understand I literally said I don’t follow Trump blindly, I’ve said it multiple times… with examples but you just can’t seem to wrap your head around it because you are blinded by your rage. And there it is, you call me racist, anti-semite, misogynist and a white supremacist. You went the whole 9 yards from the liberal playbook. You went classic libtard - if someone doesn’t agree with you then they are all the above. So fragile.
        
        Your problem is you think you’re right about everything. That you are on the right side of every issue with the world. You’ll fight your beliefs till the death even if someone were to make you think otherwise. You’ll never admit it, but I know without a shadow of a doubt you were all for Biden, even lying to yourself as you saw his mind slip between your eyes. You would have lied to yourself blindly until the TV told you he wasn’t fit for office only months out from the election. There is no reasoning with someone like you. You don’t believe in things like freedom of speech or expression. You’re right - everyone else is stupid and wrong lol. Man I honestly pity you.
        
        Igaf on 20/08/2025 - 19:27
        
        @zubzub:
        
        And there it is, you call me racist, anti-semite, misogynist and a white supremacist. You went the whole 9 yards from the liberal playbook. You went classic libtard - if someone doesn’t agree with you then they are all the above. So fragile.
        
        Did I really or did your ideological brain override your prefrontal cortex again? Perhaps you simply have elementary comprehension problems, or jump to erroneous conclusions because you're rattled. Perhaps it's your eyesight faltering due to too much salivation over the Trump poster on your bedroom ceiling? Go back and read what I wrote again. Ask someone to help you out if necessary, then come back and apologise if you're boy enough.
        
        You’ll never admit it, but I know without a shadow of a doubt you were all for Biden, even lying to yourself as you saw his mind slip between your eyes. You would have lied to yourself blindly until the TV told you he wasn’t fit for office only months out from the election.
        
        It's evident that you're not just a blind Trump-loving ideologist, you're now a conjuror of total fantasy. Interesting argument strategy, works in your circles does it? I'd give you a link to comments I made about Biden's (un)suitability re-election LONG before your "news" feed told you that Biden had lost the plot but that would be a mistake I'm unlikely to make anytime soon. Suffice to say I was in complete agreement with George, well before he went public. Biden of course has a long and illustrious record of serving the American public, most of it before you were a twinkle in someone's eyes.
        
        You don’t believe in things like freedom of speech or expression
        
        Wrong conclusion yet again, presumably founded on your limited knowledge and even more-limited capacity for thinking. Unlike you, I understand very well the importance of "free speech", AND the dangers and consequences of unfettered "free speech" - including but not limited to social cohesion dispruption, violence, and even death. As you know /s Trump used his "free speech" as incumbent POTUS to attempt to pervert the result of an election, and to incite violence and insurrection. Just one obvious example, I'm sure with some assistance you can ~~think of~~ find many more.
        
        Btw……. you might want to find a new pejorative in lieu of the one you've blindly swallowed from your rw feeds ("libtard"), primarily because of its derivation - something you're possibly oblivious to or don't understand. Your use of it doesn't bother me at all - it's de rigeur among mindless right wing juveniles, whose opinionated ignorance is FAR more offensive imo - and no doubt it's featured on Ozb many times before, but surely you can do better. Perhaps draw on your heritage and use pendejo as my in-laws might.
        
        Just checked and sure enough the first instance of libtard which shows up comes from someone you know (albeit not very) Some illuminating comments from you there, although AI may have taken over your nic while you were gazing lovingly at that Trump poster previously mentioned.
        
        zubzub on 20/08/2025 - 21:55
        
        @Igaf: Yes, you are saying if I share those views I am all those things.
        
        You don’t respect free speech unless what someone is saying agrees with you. There are people far smarter than us combined who support Trump and what he is doing, are they wrong? On there views not matter. Can’t you even accept and think about their point of views? I don’t think you can. I don’t necessarily agree with your views but I’m also not necessarily against them. A lot of what would be considered leftist views sound great… in theory. But a lot of it isn’t rooted in reality. We don’t live in a perfect world and sometimes harsh and possibly even unfair action has to be taken for the greater good. Just to give one example, I’m sure you’ve heard about the Indian truck driver in America who just did an illegal u-turn on a freeway and killed 3 people. Can you guess what he was? That’s right, illegal immigrant. I bet you would feel very differently if that was your family. Look up the demographics in a place like England for rape cases if you dare.
        
        You don’t listen. Im not a blind Trump supporter. I’ve said it 10 times I don’t agree with everything he does but you can’t get past that because you will die on your hill and no matter what he does you’re fixated on hate for anything right wing, even if it doesn’t make sense.
        
        Also can’t believe you would call Kamala smart. They had to edit her interviews to make her sound coherent. She didn’t even have the balls to do a Joe Rogan interview because she knows she would have looked like a fool.
        
        Igaf on 21/08/2025 - 11:53
        
        @zubzub:
        
        Yes, you are saying if I share those views I am all those things.
        
        Do you share those views? I must have skimmed over that. Perhaps you can refresh my memory. I wouldn't be in the least surprised from the little I've seen of your comments on OzB, but there are exceptions to every rule. I've already alluded to your warped sense of reality. Your accusations above and earlier more than adequately evidence that.
        
        Deja vu, but as you don't seem to be able to retain simple information I'll repeat in simple, clear language. Generally speaking, I don't respect speech/opinion which is based on ignorance (or racism etc). En general, no respeto los discursos u opiniones que se basan en la ignorancia (o el racismo, etc). Much of what you've written here show all the characteristics of the first category.
        
        Sad traffic incident that. He deserves whatever the courts mete out to him, as do others who may have employed him without testing his capabilities and suitability. Any reason you can think of why it was singled out from among thousands of other culpably irresponsible incidents? I'll answer that for you - because it's guaranteed to spark a special sort of outrage - and by proxy hate for all illegals (hence justifying ICE's extreme actions) - from a particular demographic. Demonisation - look it up - is a tactic used by aholes around the world. It's a strategy aimed primarily, but not exclusively, at intellectually lazy, uniformed fwits and is highly successful in particular demographics.
        
        Was Sandy Hook (which didn't happen according to another esteemed rw spruiker often praised by your poster boy) carried out by an illegal? While we're on the whataboutery trip, this local tragedy perpetrated by a 'dinkum Aussie' must be shaking your belief system to its very core, from two separate angles: the realisation that culpable fwitery (unintentional in this case) has few boundaries, and the astonishing grace of the ETHNIC parents.
        
        If you can link me to studies which show illegals have significantly higher involvement in serious vehicle accidents, or serious crime, I'm all ears. Previous studies I've perused have found no statistical evidence for the former and significantly LOWER rates wrt the latter, for fairly obvious reasons which I'll leave you to work out.
        
        Joe Rogan? You are fast approaching the bottom of that rabbit hole. What's the attraction? A diploma in credulousness after so many viewings maybe? That you'd think he could make anyone other than himself look a fool is instructive, not that we needed any further verification. Here's a clue - the internet is replete with half-baked, ignorant, mouthpieces, some who operate on the borders of rationality and reason - ie they aren't the worst examples you can find by any stretch. Most rely on their audiences being even less informed than they are, and they attract primarily people with the same biases and personal ethos. I've read a few crtiques of some of Rogan's "interviews", suffice to say they weren't complimentary, although I gather he occasionally makes some valid points.
        
        What exactly is it about a highly qualified, intelligent, successful, bi-racial, coloured woman that presses your buttons so badly? Inadequacy? Here are the FACTS about the Rogan/Harris standoff Embarrased to be caught inventing stuff again are you? Rhetorical question, I already know the answer. Your hero has set the bar so low that it's easy for some to be comfortable using deception (usually inconsequentially) on anonymous websites.
        
        zubzub on 21/08/2025 - 13:04
        
        @Igaf: Your views on what is ignorant or racist is subjective. You seem to struggle with that a lot. Others do not see it that way. But we both know you can't handle an opnion that doesn't align with yours.
        
        Plenty of horrible crimes commited by citizens, I am not trying to deny that. But that is a silly point to argue as you know you can't deport citizens so to bring it up is disingenious. What do you expect be done with them? Ship them off to an island somewhere? We are talking about ILLEGAL immigrants, not legal ones.
        
        From a quick Google of what is going on in the UK - https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/up-to-third-of-sexual-a…
        
        Estimates vary, but a figure frequently cited is approximately 22.6 deaths per 100,000 people in India (2025 estimate)
        A 2025 reference suggests the U.S. had approximately 11.0 deaths per 100,000 people
        
        I knew mentioning Joe Rogan would trigger you. He is one of the biggest platforms in the world, his interviews are live and UNEDITED, so nowhere for Kamal to hide or to complain and say that she was treated unfairly, but she chickened out. There was no other reason to back out of an podcast with him - none. Her ridiculous conditions for Joe to fly out to meet her and limit the time makes no sense at all. The Trump interview got tens of millions of views in 24 hours. The demographic is young men, where she struggled the most. Makes no sense at all to not jump on that, there is nothing you can say that will change that fact.
        
        hahah what has her gender or race have to do with anything you dimwit? I never brought it up, you did. Are you suggesting her gender or race has something to do with my opinion of her? Shocker ….
        
        Igaf on 21/08/2025 - 13:59
        
        @zubzub: What, no attempt to justify your patently nonsensicle misrespresentations of my comments? Maybe you forgot (again) so I'll repost. Cant wait to read your excuse. Doubt even your favourite AI bot will help you wheedle you out but give it a try:
        Do you share those views? I must have skimmed over that. Perhaps you can refresh my memory. I wouldn't be in the least surprised from the little I've seen of your comments on OzB, but there are exceptions to every rule. I've already alluded to your warped sense of reality. Your accusations above and earlier more than adequately evidence that.
        
        Your views on what is ignorant or racist is subjective.
        
        Astonishing insight. Did your AI assistant help or is it all your own work?
        
        Plenty of horrible crimes commited by citizens, I am not trying to deny that. But that is a silly point to argue as you know you can't deport citizens so to bring it up is disingenious. What do you expect be done with them? Ship them off to an island somewhere? We are talking about ILLEGAL immigrants, not legal ones.
        
        In FACT as you know /s Trump has mentioned many times that he will try to deport legal immigrants, but that wasn't my point at all was it? You intentionally cherry picked a very sad incident involving an illegal, and your reason for doing so is obvious to anyone with more than a handful of functioning neurons. Do I need to elaborate?
        
        You're obviously rattled courtesy of your many previous nonsenses on this thread but even that doesn't explain why you'd randomly pick UK stats on LEGAL "immigrants" to justify your opinions on illegals in an entirely different country. You do know what a foreign national is don't you, or did your ideological blindness cause you to gloss over that repeatedly mentioned tag? Perhaps a reboot, a good meal and some sleep will help, although I wouldn't bet on it.
        
        There was no other reason to back out of an podcast with him - none.
        
        And yet Rogan himself provided the reason. Kudos to him. Clearly he's nowhere as deep down that murky conservative rabbit hole as you.
        
        hahah what has her gender or race have to do with anything you dimwit? I never brought it up, you did. Are you suggesting her gender or race has something to do with my opinion of her?
        
        You fit the demographic, it was a considered and reasonable taunt - you know what that is presumably? She's obviously far smarter and acomplished far more than you, hence my inadequacy comment. Then again according to some measures, based on your flailings and failings here it wouldn't be unreasonable to conclude your IQ lies about two thirds up the steepest part of the bell curve upslope. Your EQ would barely hit any scale.
        
        Btw - have to bothered to do that reading I suggested about your tragically misunderstood Jan6 heroes yet?
        
        zubzub on 21/08/2025 - 14:21
        
        @Igaf: Do I share views that YOU deem racist, which in turn make me a racist because YOU said so? hahaha. So arrogant.
        
        Trump says so much shit, he is a level 11 troll. You're too emotional to realise the sarcasm. Like when he says he is going to run for another term. So gullible. I just mentioned a recent incident, it just happened, calm down.
        
        You think I'm rattled? By you? haha, cool, whatever makes you feel better. I picked UK stats because I only just asked you to look up sexual crime stats in England by demographic like 2 comments ago. I also gave you the relevant stats for driving fatalities to prove a point you are just going to ignore.
        
        He refused her terms because he doesn't do that for anyone and didn't want to show any perceived favouritsm. When you have a platform that large available to you, you take it, it was her demographic that she needed to win over and like the coward that she is, she backed out. There is nothing you can say to change that reality.
        
        I love this whole authority as a perceived intellectual gig you're playing. If I were to make a 'reasonable taunt', I would say you are a coward in the real world who was probably picked on and bullied his whole life. And if you're wife really is latina, then you 100% don't wear the pants in that relationship hahaha.
        
        You really can just tone it down and not try so hard. It has zero effect on me. Just write normal and stop with the big words, you might hurt my little brain :(
        
        I don't know what reading you're talking about. I basically already condemned Jan 6, so saying I have a hero in that race makes absolutley no sense to me. Seems to be causing an itch in your pants though. So go ahead and have your say on it.
        
        Igaf on 21/08/2025 - 15:28
        
        @zubzub:
        
        Do I share views that YOU deem racist, which in turn make me a racist because YOU said so? hahaha. So arrogant.
        
        Can't recall writing or even vaguely suggesting that, but I'm sure you'll be along shortly to point out where I did. Unless of course you've doubled down on your invention above. Odd that you've yet to take up the invitation I previously extended. I'll take that as confirmation that you concede you were wrong but haven't had the cojones to admit it.
        
        I picked UK stats because I only just asked you to look up sexual crime stats in England by demographic like 2 comments ago.
        
        I'll repeat, since it hasn't sunk in from my pervious comment: what you cherry picked are two distinctly different groups. Now It's distinctly possible that your knowledge of how to read statistics is primary school level but it's equally possible that your rw ideological mind sees the word(s) immigrant (or foreign nationals) and goes into overdrive.
        
        I also gave you the relevant stats for driving fatalities to prove a point you are just going to ignore.
        
        So that's what they were, thanks for clarifying. I ignored them for two obvious reasons. They have ZERO relevance to the discussion, and they in no way justify your cherry picked example. So that you don't continually repeat the same mistake every time you get on a forum I'll add that they are also a classic case of a simpleton's use of statistics. Statistics used without context are next to meaningless. I'd be wasting my time pointing out some of the obvious factors which might determine vehicle fatality rates in different countries so I'll just ask you to explain EXACTLY what the point was of plucking them out.
        
        While we're in the mode of mindless group shaming, care to hazard a guess as to what ethnicity has seen the biggest rise (wrt polulation) in homicide in the USA? Given your logic it would be fair to tar you with the same brush would it not?
        
        Speaking of statistics though, you might want to take a closer look at the number of Spanish speaking nations/groups around the world before you jump to conclusions about the tidbit of information I gave you.
        
        intellectual gig
        
        Sorry to have to disabuse you again but there's nothing intellectual about anything I've written, it's all publicly available information along with a tiny bit of reason and analytical thought. Perhaps your internet has a child lock on it, or maybe it's your self-imposed ideology lock causing you to believe that? I've barely scratched the surface and I'm just an interested observer, not an expert. The fact that you havent bothered to accumulate even basic knowledge to form your opinions doesn't make my scant knowledge "intellectual" in any way, although relatively speaking you might be right.
        
        I don't know what reading you're talking about. I basically already condemned Jan 6, so saying I have a hero in that race makes absolutley no sense to me. Seems to be causing an itch in your pants though. So go ahead and have your say on it.
        
        I've already given you specifics, forgotten so quickly? Here's a few reminders from above to kickstart that steel trap of yours:
        "you know damn well 99% of those people didn’t deserve those sentences, and they did serve years in jail before the pardon.
        
        "I don't know any such thing but thanks for inventing a straw man which reinforces the fact that you (1) haven't bothered to watch the videos (or perhaps you did and are too naive to understand what happened and why - 50/50 coin toss) let alone (2) followed the subsequent testimonies of those present, or (3) looked at the evidence (and admissions of guilt in many cases) which convicted them, or (4) bothered to read why the court verdicts were as they were. ALL of which is publicly available and has been for a very long time. What's holding you back?"
        
        zubzub on 21/08/2025 - 16:11
        
        @Igaf: Ffs man I’m on a phone haha. I’ll keep it simple. You think I’m a racist, yes or no? Your answer is probably yes. My point is, you’ll deem my views that way. But ultimately there is no way to prove right or wrong in our opposing views. Therefore they are subjective. No I haven’t watched any videos, maybe I missed them. I tend to keep my replies to a few minutes of my time, I’m not that invested to waste too much time on a stranger I have no care for - no offence.
        
        I don’t know the stats on your point about rising violence. I assume you’re going to say white? Maybe latinos? I don’t know, is it really relevant when illegal immigrants could be any nationality?
        
        You going to try and argue that there is a certain ethnic group with certain religious views who view sexual crimes differently to the west? Really? Are you that far gone left? I don’t need to spell it out. You’re smart enough to know it’s true without us having to travel down a rabbit hole that would probably get me put in the sin bin.
        
        Immigration is a good thing. I am not against it at all. I just believe it needs to be regulated better. It’s not racist for example to expect people driving heavy equipment like a semi understand English so they can read the road signs. Or expect people to enter a country legally. Or to ship off people there illegally, especially the dangerous ones. That is perfectly logical and that is what most people are asking for. It’s really not that complicated or racist. If the government doesn’t regulate this better then you’re going to get citizens revolting which is exactly what’s starting to happen in countries like the US or England. And eventually it will get so bad that you’ll get someone in power that makes Trump look like a puppy dog and then you’re going to see some real racist shit. Remember those words my friend because if things don’t change soon that is exactly what will happen.
- MrZ on 16/08/2025 - 02:18
  
  -1
  
  Meh. One of the worst customs/immigration experiences my dad ever had was entering Australia back in 1993.
  - Far Cough on 16/08/2025 - 07:49
    
    +3
    
    Time to let go, that’s nearly 30 years ago
    - Lucille Bluth on 16/08/2025 - 07:53
      
      +1
      
      1993
      
      that’s nearly 30 years ago
      
      2022 was a different time @Wiadro
- PCHammond on 16/08/2025 - 09:35
  
  This deal isnt for the holiday maker.
  
  Its really for the business traveller who has to do multiple frequent trips, usually of short duration. This kind if traveller isnt going to the US for fun, and often has no real choice. I go to the USA semi frequently and its never for a holiday.
  
  I personally dont go there enough to make it worth it, but I can see how it would benefit those who do go often. I go semi frequently for business and never had an issue. The ICE people at immigration seem to like it when I state my employer, destination, that I am here for business with a return ticket home in a few days. I am not white or a Trump supporter either.
Chuppa on 16/08/2025 - 01:14

+9

Giving all your personal identity information to a private company and paying for the privilege? Yeh nah!
Scrooge McDeal on 16/08/2025 - 01:48

@Clear is this your company in US? 😀
AS1253 on 16/08/2025 - 01:54

+3

First of all no shade to OP, you posted a deal which is fine and dandy.

Secondly, No point buying this when you can leave the airport and get arrested by ICE while you are walking on the footpath and possibly get deported to a random country you have never been in and cannot speak the language.
- TEER3X on 16/08/2025 - 06:22
  
  +1
  
  Don't forget about the ICE impersonators too
  
  Baffling to me how any woman would ever vote Republican let alone for the peanut that's currently serving.
  - teatea on 16/08/2025 - 18:28
    
    They hired bounty hunters, dressed as ICE agents to capture people. Hence why no ICE officers are identifying themselves. They are outsourcing to meet demand.
Chocobros on 16/08/2025 - 02:04

+13

The USA has been pretty bad to Australia recently with the bs Trump tariffs…. Can't see why we should support the USA with tourism.
trblvb on 16/08/2025 - 05:11

+3

Just got back from 6 week holiday Aus to US to Europe back to US to Cancun back to US and home. Multiple entries to USA all went smoothly and loved USA. It's booming there now and great for a holiday especially Orlando, Dallas and las Vegas.
- TEER3X on 16/08/2025 - 06:24
  
  +2
  
  Booming in what way? Tourism is down (I guess that's a good thing for visitors though)
  
  Las Vegas rooms these days are a joke, resort fees of up to $75/day.
  
  Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful country with lots to do. I would love to visit again but won't be supporting what's currently going on.
anttheknee on 16/08/2025 - 05:36

+5

Have they… have they.,, HAVE THEY MONETISED THEIR NATIONAL SECURITY?
ndenham on 16/08/2025 - 07:31

Upvoting the deal, downvoting the current US Administration.
toastpaint on 16/08/2025 - 07:45

I believe this is only for US Residents who have Aus passports - you need a ZIP code.
Far Cough on 16/08/2025 - 07:50

If rather save money and not travel to the USA
87percent on 16/08/2025 - 07:59

+1

Think someone needs to tell them that it’s not July anymore..
mmrazz on 16/08/2025 - 09:00

+1

I've had CLEAR for 6 years. It can occasionally save you some time going through security - especially if you don't have Precheck (I do, but most Australians can't get it). However it does not save you enough to actually pay for it. The only reason I have it is because I get it for free - there's no chance I'd ever pay for it!

If you don't visit the US a lot (say at least a few times a year) then don't bother with anything. If you DO visit the US at least a few times a year, look into getting Global Entry. It's cheaper than CLEAR, gets you through Immigration very quickly, and gets you access to TSA PreCheck at security. Currently it's not possible to apply for this as an Australia, but it should be within the next few months.

"In addition to being able to create a Real ID complaint US identity documents through your Australian Passport." I don't know what you're trying to say here, but it's not a thing. Australian Passports ARE Real ID compliant. CLEAR doesn't change that - it doesn't give you any additional documents, and you still need to have your passport with you when using it (they randomly ask for it at TSA, even when using CLEAR)
DashCam AKA Rolts on 16/08/2025 - 09:42

Does this replace the previous CLEAR-OFF program of the Orange in Chief?
oz-dxer on 16/08/2025 - 12:50

+2

I travel to the USA once a year, so far i have never had an issue at immigration, they ask a few questions, you answer and even this year i said to the customs guy, "i am here for the conference again, it's probably on my history". He says " yes, you know the drill, look into the camera….welcome to the USA'..tbh less than 2 minutes at the gate.
cbalcs on 25/09/2025 - 08:49

I was in Chicago recently and they were offering free 3 months trial at the airport.

CLEAR+ United States Airport Security Expedite and Pre-Clearance Program US$179 (~A$274.58) @ CLEAR

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