Measles - a Potentially Fatal Infectious Disease

Muppet Detector on 27/09/2025 - 11:58

In 2014, the World Health Organisation declared that Australia had achieved elimination status for Measles.

There are a few stories around that we've recently been experiencing some potentially harmful outbreaks.

"Measles is a serious disease and can cause severe disease or death. It's caused by the measles virus and can also lead to complications, such as lung infection (pneumonia), middle ear infection (otitis media) and brain inflammation (encephalitis)."

"In Australia, measles vaccination is 99% effective at preventing infection by the measles virus after 2 doses."

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/amp/article/measles

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/amp/article/measles#prevente…

For something that is optional for most people these days, it sounds to me like it'd be a good thing to avoid if you could.

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Comments

  • mskeggs on 27/09/2025 - 12:12
    +34

    On the bright side, 90%+ Aussies agree with you.
    While there are some unhinged American sites saying people didn’t have hygiene before the measles vaccine, and that is the difference, almost anyone can look at the stats and see how incredibly effective the vaccine is.

    • Gunnar on 27/09/2025 - 12:46
      +26

      90%+ Aussies agree with you

      I’m scared that figure is so low!

      • FireRunner on 27/09/2025 - 12:52
        +3

        I feel like the stat was just estimated, citation needed

      • smartazz104 on 27/09/2025 - 22:37
        +20

        Well apparently we have our tenpercent right here…

        • Coops1 on 28/09/2025 - 07:52
          +15

          It’s amazing how many wackos are out there, they do exist sadly!

        • tenpercent on 28/09/2025 - 12:11
          -2

          Username checks out.

      • BigBirdy on 28/09/2025 - 10:15
        +16

        measles was wiped out before vaccines existed

        Vaccines obviously played their part with transmission reduction

        WTF?

      • Drj55 on 28/09/2025 - 10:43
        +13

        "The virus is not just spread by large droplets, but also by very small aerosol particles that can stay in the air long after an infected person has left a room."

        So… You wash the air?

        Measles is one of the most contagious infection known but you think you just need good hygiene.

          • SBOB on 28/09/2025 - 15:02
            +4

            @lew380:

            This an example of misinformation

            At least you're being honest.

          • wallet72 on 28/09/2025 - 17:46

            @lew380: give one example of a chronic condition that is caused by the measles vaccine.

        • tenpercent on 28/09/2025 - 15:39
          -4

          So… You wash the air?

          I do wash the air.

          Many Ozbargainers buy special devices to actively wash their air.

          Hospitals actively wash their air too.

          Even people who just open their windows and doors wash the air inside their homes or cars are passively washing their air.

        • Muppet Detector on 28/09/2025 - 22:02
          +2

          So… You wash the air?

          That's why God invented the rain.

          Didn't wash away the measles virus though apparently…

      • tenpercent on 28/09/2025 - 12:12

        It wasn't fully wiped out, but cases and deaths were exponentially reduced in most Western nations well before any vaccine was made available.

      • wallet72 on 28/09/2025 - 14:57
        +7

        wow, that is one of the dumbest things I've read today - and I read news.com.au.

        • lew380 on 28/09/2025 - 16:12
          -4

          It might seem hard to understand if your uneducated on the topic. But the solution is simple, read both sides of an argument. You might learn something!

      • smartazz104 on 29/09/2025 - 14:45

        Of course good hygiene eliminated measles by 99%

        Amazing that someone like you will sit down and use a computer and then spout something like this.

  • Gunnar on 27/09/2025 - 12:46
    +21

    For something that is optional for most people these days, it sounds to me like it'd be a good thing to avoid if you could.

    Whoa slow down there buddy. The Next thing people will be saying is paracetamol will cause autism

      • DingoBilly on 27/09/2025 - 14:59
        +9

        It makes me sad when people lack critical thinking skills.

        Please consider looking at multiple sources instead of just one to base your decisions off. Otherwise you end up making stupid and harmful posts like yours.

        • BoltThrower on 27/09/2025 - 18:10
          +12

          Raising concerns about medication safety is valid, but the current, long-standing scientific consensus remains clear: paracetamol (Tylenol) is the safest option for managing pain and fever during pregnancy when used as directed. Recent studies linking it to autism are based on loose correlations without proving causation, yet these claims were likely the source of Trump's statements. Did he form this opinion independently, or perhaps from RFK? When one finds loose correlation, more research should be done to fully eliminate causation. Science evolves, it's never settled. Consensus should be without professional ego or fear of being ostracised which we've seen in recent years.
          It’s unscientific to dismiss valid questions with emotional rants or assumptions. Science should be above politics. The real challenge is how to remove political bias and financial incentives from medicine, and instead adopting transparent, evidence-based research without ideological interference. Asking questions openly is essential, assuming and reacting emotionally is not.
          Critical thinking means exactly that, thinking critically, not blindly parroting insults. Unlike your ‘one-source’ tantrum, I’m basing my points on a breadth of solid, up-to-date research from multiple expert bodies confirming paracetamol’s safety in pregnancy. Maybe take a moment to actually check those sources instead of lazily assuming ‘stupid posts’ just because the facts don't fit your narrative.”

            • try2bhelpful on 28/09/2025 - 07:40
              +24

              @t_c: That is the problem. When the President is throwing out a bunch of random nonsense his minions tend to follow his advice. He can do a lot of damage.

              • Coops1 on 28/09/2025 - 07:54

                @try2bhelpful: Yep, and especially those in the hills!

                • try2bhelpful on 28/09/2025 - 08:00
                  +4

                  @Coops1: them there hills.

                  It is interesting that ignorance seems to grow as you head further into remote regions. The biggest worry are the Sovereign citizen nut jobs. They have a propensity for violence. They whine about the government but have no trouble using Government supplied infrastructure and taking handouts.

                  • Coops1 on 28/09/2025 - 08:09
                    +3

                    @try2bhelpful: This is another whole thread eh! If we think about it, what we need is a thread listing all the similar topics, whirlpool has a good one already on sovereign citizens.

                    I am a very distinct middle left, with some hints of right at times.

                    The problem is we need some middle ground that will help us lose some of the middle heading to the right. Eg:

                    • immigration is an issue to most, and some moderation to levels is needed

                    • oh and forced sterilisation for some - is that too far? - that break into houses with violence and injure/kill people and steal cars

                    • and the ability for another countries citizen to vote on another’s president so we don’t get wackos in power

                    It gets too confusing, so will stop the ramble.

            • imurgod on 28/09/2025 - 12:34
              +11

              @t_c: The same president that thought injecting bleach and sunshine onto your veins would cure Covid-19?
              The same one that said we should nuke hurricanes?
              The one who said egg prices have dropped 400%?
              The one who said that paper straws explode in minutes?
              The who thought they used aircraft in the revolutionary war?

              Yeah, he carries more weight but that's because of all the McDonalds and Coke he consumes.

              Facts aren't his strong suit.

            • LFO on 28/09/2025 - 16:53
              +1

              @t_c:

              the President of the USA carries a bit more weight than

              ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR ME.

              Once a lair always a lair.

            • Muppet Detector on 28/09/2025 - 22:07
              +5

              @t_c: You know the USA President is currently Donald Trump, right?

            • Kirbieb on 29/09/2025 - 13:04

              @t_c: lol, i think they hold the same weight if im honest.

            • mooney on 29/09/2025 - 13:33

              @t_c: Go watch the video of Trump pronouncing Acetaminophen and tell me has any (profanity) credentials at all. If you don't think he is a complete moron, then, maybe….

            • smartazz104 on 29/09/2025 - 14:46

              @t_c:

              I think the President of the USA carries a bit more weight

              A lot more, if you discount his and his "doctor's" claims…

        • Sinnerator on 28/09/2025 - 08:01
          -2

          So anyone who doesn't agree with anyone lacks critical thinking skills.
          The new "Nazi Racist Bigot Facist" is "You lack critical thinking skills".

          What does critical thinking skills even mean these days when most science and research is bought and paid for by big$$$ with an agenda and everyone through every medium is exposed to this rot.

          • try2bhelpful on 28/09/2025 - 08:19
            +1

            @Sinnerator: This is what we mean by not having critical thinking skills. You are throwing a bunch of stuff out there that isn’t actually true. There are certainly elements of bought research but much of science involves trials and independent peer reviewing. Then you add in centuries of experience that gives long term credence to things like vaccinations. Look up TB, polio, small pox. All mass killers brought to heel by vaccination and herd immunity.

            You are correct that some sections are pushing rot but your target is off. It is much easier to deal with a population that is suspicious of science and logic. You can tell them a bunch of absolute nonsense and they will believe you.

            • lew380 on 28/09/2025 - 09:18
              -4

              @try2bhelpful: Wrong, germ theory and the practical application in society wiped out diseases, like washing hands and toilet hygiene. Vaccines obviously work too and they played their part to wipe out transmission in the end, in a risk/reward relationship. You can't just read pharmaceutical propaganda, you need to read more widely.

              • CoreArchitect on 28/09/2025 - 10:47
                +7

                @lew380: Calling people wrong when you are saying hand washing beat airborne pathogens like measles, is moronic.

              • Ughhh on 28/09/2025 - 11:12

                @lew380:

                the practical application in society wiped out diseases, like washing hands and toilet hygiene.

                I dont think anyone is saying vaccine alone eliminated/controlled diseases. Every hazard needs to be more than one control method to control it. This isn't exclusive to diseases btw.

                Theres many methods of transmission for bacteria/viruses. Washing hands and toilet hygiene only help control one type of transfer route. Dont forget there are many many people who were/are against other practical applications, like wearing mask.

                Pharm companies can only comment on their product. It doesn't make sense for them to comment about something they do not make eg. mask.

          • tenpercent on 28/09/2025 - 12:03
            +3

            @Sinnerator:

            The new "Nazi Racist Bigot Facist" is "You lack critical thinking skills".

            It's because you can spot the nazis too easily these days. They're the people advocating against the bedrock of our civilisation, that being individual rights, while promoting eugenics and other vile concepts: e.g. saying other people should lose their jobs for a private medical decision, e.g. some people should be forced sterilised, e.g. some people shold be forced injected, e.g. some people should be ostracised, etc.

            • LFO on 28/09/2025 - 16:58

              @tenpercent:

              some people should be X 3

              Yet that is exactly what anti-nazis (whatever "nazis" mean today, after the dismantling some 80 years ago of the real Nazis …)

              • tenpercent on 28/09/2025 - 17:15

                @LFO: Did you finish your thought? I've read this three times and it seems like the end of the sentence is missing.

    • GordonD on 27/09/2025 - 14:59
      +4

      The Next thing people will be saying is paracetamol will cause autism

      We are told to believe the scientific research. And that is in fact exactly what the earlier research said. It said mothers who took paracetamol during pregnancy were more likely to have autistic children. That paracetamol appeared to be causally linked to autism.

      The latest research has confirmed that mothers who take paracetamol are more likely to have autistic children. It merely argues that the causal link is the other way around. Not from paracetamol to the mother to an autistic child but from the mother to paracetamol and an autistic child. Mothers who are more likely to need to take paracetamol during pregnancy because they have conditions like chronic migraine are more likely to have autistic children. They argue this on the basis that if a mother has two children, and takes paracetamol during the pregnancy of one but not the other, both children have the same likelihood of being autistic. Which would not be the case if paracetamol was the cause of the autism, but would be if the mother was.

      So it is science that changed its mind when more research was done.

      And that's what it does.

      Facts, even scientific facts, have a half-life. You can't be sure that even if you know what science says is proven fact today that you'll still be right tomorrow. Science doesn't produce eternal truths. Only religion claims to do that. Science just gets a bit closer to the truth each time it looks closer and closer at things.

      • Muppet Detector on 27/09/2025 - 17:10
        -1

        EDIT: Seems Gordon covered much of what I did. Apologies for the double up.

        Something to remember about these "links to autism" is the scientists are always changing the goalposts in a few ways.

        1. They're continually changing the diagnostic criteria and the diagnostic guidelines.

        ASD "criteria"? are very different to what they were in 1980, 2000 and again in 2013.

        They invent new types, then tweak them a bit, then just eliminate them completely as if they never existed in the first place.

        So what causes ASD now, might not cause it following the release of the DSM VI because the previously diagnosed person may not even meet the criteria anymore.

        1. They keep changing their minds about what could cause ASD as well.

        They've done a complete 360 turn on what they say was the cause in 1999 to now, for example.

        • FezMonkey on 29/09/2025 - 11:17

          It isn't 'goalposts', it's simply reviewing our understanding of neurological conditions over time. People whose behaviour was very different may have been given different labels in the past, but if we now know that it's caused by the same underlying issue then they can now be linked.

          Humans like to put things in categories, but nature doesn't work that way. So our labels, etc. are always a bit imperfect, and are subject to revision.

    • Muppet Detector on 27/09/2025 - 20:54
      +1

      To be a bit fair, there's not much they haven't claimed causes autism.

      I figure they just keep throwing everything out there and eventually they may get it right. Maybe.

      • try2bhelpful on 27/09/2025 - 20:58
        +2

        Looking for anything that isn’t genetics or old blokes fathering children.

        • Muppet Detector on 27/09/2025 - 21:29
          +1

          They can't decide what autism actually is, so how the hell do they go about working out what causes it?

          • try2bhelpful on 27/09/2025 - 21:44
            +2

            @Muppet Detector: Absolutely. It is a spectrum so, frankly, we are all probably on it.

            • Muppet Detector on 27/09/2025 - 21:49

              @try2bhelpful: They can't even decide where the spectrum is or what should be on it. Every time a new DSM comes out, they change the rules and the goal posts.

      • LFO on 28/09/2025 - 17:00
        +3

        there's not much they haven't claimed causes autism.

        Just one more and rather definite: being born may cause autism

        • Muppet Detector on 28/09/2025 - 22:21

          Probably the biggest risk of all, eh?

          Although maybe being conceived would take that honour if we consider all the potential exposure that may occur in the womb.

    • JakeyJooJoo on 28/09/2025 - 08:01
      +11

      FYI for those unaware about the paracetamol and Autism point… It's getting a lot of attention in US and no doubt will become a big thing here. Anyway, if you wish to know, here's a summary I wrote the other day:

      There’s a recent Science Vs episode that debunks the supposed link between paracetamol and autism. The gist of it is that the studies claiming paracetamol increases the risk of autism are based on flawed datasets. When researchers have used stronger, more reliable datasets, they’ve found a different explanation: people with autism often experience higher levels of pain than neurotypical people, so they tend to take paracetamol more frequently.

      When autistic parents have children, their kids are more likely to inherit the genetic traits of autism. That means the higher paracetamol use among parents is coincidental—it reflects the fact that autistic people are more likely to use pain relief, not that paracetamol is causing autism. The studies making the paracetamol-autism connection miss this key point.

      So the idea that paracetamol causes autism is just fear-mongering. The evidence doesn’t support it.

    • V2L on 28/09/2025 - 17:18

      It's fun to tell people who believe paracetamol causes autism that their mother probably had paracetamol during pregnancy. They get confused to no end

    • ForkSnorter on 29/09/2025 - 05:59
      +1

      FDA believes it might cause autism:

      https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-resp…

  • DashCam AKA Rolts on 27/09/2025 - 13:06
    +12

    Unfortunately, 90% is a little low to ensure herd immunity.

    There are some who can't have the vaccine due to compromising health conditions.

    Those individuals who aren't vaccinated but could be provide a disease vector that constitutes a threat to those unable to have the vaccine.

    Social media anti-vaxxers bear responsibility for the health threat to the most vulnerable.

    • mskeggs on 27/09/2025 - 13:39

      This is true, but current population level immunity is above the 92.7% found in 5yr olds because historic rates were higher, and there is a long tail of kids who get immunised later, including some when they get control of their own health choices after 16yro.
      The herd immunity concern is mainly about if trends continue for another decade or two, which public health policy people obviously hope to reverse.

      • mskeggs on 27/09/2025 - 16:28
        +9

        Rolts was pretty clear their concern was for people who were unable to receive the vaccine being infected by someone who could have been vaccinated but wasn’t.

      • BoltThrower on 27/09/2025 - 19:45
        +3

        "Being surrounded by conscientious drivers results in greater safety for yourself" with a possible corollary of "being surrounded by non-seatbelt wearing drivers (likely reckless) poses an increased accident risk for oneself"
        Airbags save lives when safety tested (Safe and effective) and used, just like vaccines protect most people when rigorously trialed and widely adopted. Surrounded by conscientious ‘drivers’ in either case means fewer crashes and outbreaks. Skipping steps to use live crash dummies or untested ‘alternatives’ is exactly the reckless gamble no intelligent person wants to take.

      • wtfisgoingon on 28/09/2025 - 10:24
        +5

        What a profoundly stupid analogy. Herd immunity matters because tens of thousands of people can't take the vaccine, even if they desperately wish they could.

        And no vaccine is completely effective, so herd immunity makes the difference between people getting sick or not.

        An analogy of your attitude is "Everyone is wearing a seatbelt so I can drive like a (profanity) idiot right?"

      • Muppet Detector on 29/09/2025 - 01:39
        -2

        I'm always worried that my seatbelt and airbags won't work if the guy I crash into isn't wearing his seatbelt

        The good news is that you don't need a vaccine for that.

        Some people do get special medication from their doctor (but be careful, these may become addictive), but a lot of people learn to help manage this with Cognitive Behaviour Therapy.

  • kahn on 27/09/2025 - 13:13

    "In Australia, measles vaccination is 99% effective at preventing infection by the measles virus after 2 doses." For something that is optional for most people these days, it sounds to me like it'd be a good thing to avoid if you could.

    Huh? If it's so effective, why would you want people to avoid it? Are you concerned about vaccine safety?

    • jjjaar on 27/09/2025 - 13:17
      +15

      I think they’re saying avoiding contracting measles is a good thing, not avoiding getting the vaccine.

      • Muppet Detector on 27/09/2025 - 17:28
        +1

        Yes - thank you.

        For most people, getting measles is optional because most can avoid it by getting immunised.

        The information made me think that I'd like my family to avoid contracting measles if we can. Sounds pretty awful, even if you don't die.

        Don't want measles => opt in.

        Want measles=> opt out.

        • Banks on 28/09/2025 - 09:21

          In the past families would have measles parties which would take out someone for about a week.

          Likewise similarly we have the shingles vaccine now which is highly recommended for people wanting to avoid chickenpox.

          I am still on the fence about whether the benefits are exaggerated but it's very rare to find someone fully unvaccinated in Australia, so that comparison is generally very difficult to make.

          This is because it is difficult to find a fully unvaccinated group that doesn't have some other comorbidity that will affect their immune system, voiding any analysis - in essence the trials will be automatically biased towards benefiting the vaccinated group, but we haven't done that test yet —- well we have got something similar aka the Henry Ford Health study)

          Furthermore, the benefits of a vaccine need to be weighed against the cons. There is no point avoiding measles and then having chronic health problems in the future… I didn't get that choice in the past, and neither did a majority of the OzBargain users since Australians are mostly fully vaccinated.

          We are all coming from that perspective that vaccines are good because we are still around, but that's a type of survival bias…

          BTW: Chickenpox is also potentially fatal…

        • idonotknowwhy on 29/09/2025 - 00:52

          Don't want measles => opt in.
          Want measles=> opt out.

          Do you work for the windows update team or something?

          • Muppet Detector on 29/09/2025 - 00:57
            -1

            @idonotknowwhy: As a matter of fact, I do! How could you possibly have known that?

            I can't decide between curtains, vertical blinds or those timber plantation shutters, which window dressing update do you think I should choose?

            Mostly north facing windows, but there are a couple which face west.

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 27/09/2025 - 15:11
    +7

    Yea get vaccinated - if you choose not to then dont complain if you get sick

      • Trying2SaveABuck on 27/09/2025 - 16:58
        +5

        i can point to 1000s of studies supporting vaccination, but your question is fairly narrow minded the measles vaccination has 'almost' erridicated the virus from our nation

        But here is a government source - https://www.health.gov.au/topics/immunisation/vaccines/measl…

        Ill give you a better known example of Polio was a MASSIVE issue in Australia in the 70s it has pretty much not exsisted since the 2000s that is due to vaccincation - i have personally treated dozens of 'older' people who had Polio and it gave them debilitating disabilities who all wish the vaccine existed when they were born.

        Look when it comes to the Covid Jab the anti-Vax crowd had a point the vaccine was rushed and not 'propertly' tested - ill note it takes a minimum of 4 years to produce a safe vaccine normally double that to be sure it is safe the orginal COVID Vaxs where made in 2 years - they were not safe for everyone - the mainstream population WAS lied to by big Pharma and corrupt policians like Andrews etc - these corrupt politicans have shaken the faith in the health care system in which the medical and Allied Health professions need to restore

        Furthermore, there is a number of of Vacinations that we have been using for decades safely and measles mumps rubella, Polio Vax has saved more lives (and prevent disabilities) then Avengers in the MCU

        i will note if someone chooses not to get vaccinated it is 100% their right but vaccinations for the most part save lives - i dont support the idea of 'fourcing people' to get vaxed but it is in ones best interest in 99.99% of cases to do so

        • tenpercent on 27/09/2025 - 17:16
          -3

          Do you realise you've just answered a question that wasn't asked?

          I asked:

          Can you point me to any sources showing Australians who aren't immunised for measles complaining about getting measles?

          Which was in response to you saying:

          if you choose not to then dont complain if you get sick

          • Trying2SaveABuck on 27/09/2025 - 17:20
            +2

            @tenpercent: i did answer it, but ill spell it out for it - how can you have a study on a disease that has been essentially erradicated? - the better question are the few people who 'have contracted measles vaccinated'? and if so why have they still contracted the disease and if not why did they not get vaccinated?

            Tencent generally im with you mate but just like the left have their toxic gender politics BS the right have their poorly thought out anti-vax ideals

            • tenpercent on 27/09/2025 - 17:25
              -3

              @Trying2SaveABuck: I didn't ask for studies. Any source would do.

              Allow me spell it out…
              …How can you have people who are not vaccinated for measles complaining about getting measles if it "has been essentially eradicated"?

              Or more plainly… I don't think those people exist.

              • Trying2SaveABuck on 27/09/2025 - 17:27
                +1

                @tenpercent:

                Can you point me to any sources showing Australians who aren't immunised for measles complaining about getting measles?

                Your orginal question was 'Australia' - not world-wide measle is still very common in parts of Africa and Asia …ill note places that dont have very good vaccination programs ie Pakistan etc

                furthermore you are 'welcome too' fact check anything i say - im not here tell you whats right or wrong if you dont want to get vaccinated that is 'your right' i dont support people getting sacked or refused entry to places your their medical choices

                i support vaccinations but i dont support forcing anyone to do so it should be a choice one makes based on the facts

                • tenpercent on 27/09/2025 - 17:37
                  -1

                  @Trying2SaveABuck: Yes. I haven't referred to 'world-wide' either in my original question or when I spelled it out.

                  measle is still very common in parts of Africa and Asia …ill note places that dont have very good vaccination programs ie Pakistan etc

                  That opens up a discussion about disease vectors, but that takes us off track.

                  ill note places that dont have very good vaccination programs

                  So the unvaccinated people complaining about getting measles are in places where they don't have good access to vaccination programs and so probably didn't "choose not to" get vaccinated?

                  • Trying2SaveABuck on 27/09/2025 - 18:30

                    @tenpercent:

                    So the unvaccinated people complaining about getting measles are in places where they don't have good access to vaccination programs and so probably didn't "choose not to" get vaccinated?

                    the point is there has been a few cases in QLD which is concerns health officals

                    Can you point me to any sources showing Australians who aren't immunised for measles complaining about getting measles?

                    this was your orginal question i feel like have answered it as best as possible

                    im un-sure your what the rest of your point it but measles for the most part does not exist here in Australia, vaccinations are largely reponsible for its erradication

                    • tenpercent on 27/09/2025 - 18:41

                      @Trying2SaveABuck: My point was:

                      I don't think those people exist.

                      "Those people" being the alleged unvaccinated individuals in Australia complaining about getting a disease they opted to not get vaccinated against.

                      • Trying2SaveABuck on 27/09/2025 - 18:47

                        @tenpercent:

                        "Those people" being the alleged unvaccinated individuals in Australia complaining about getting a disease they opted to not get vaccinated against.

                        considering 99.9% of the population is vaccinated against Measles you're probably right

              • Muppet Detector on 27/09/2025 - 17:34
                -2

                @tenpercent:

                How can you have people who are not vaccinated for measles complaining about getting measles if it "has been essentially eradicated"?

                Seen the news recently?

                It's making a comeback.

                The beast is no longer sleeping.

              • prodrome on 28/09/2025 - 11:16
                +5

                @tenpercent: Family member got measles before the vaccine was invented.

                Lifelong health problems, 1/2 of both lungs removed.

                Take your anti vax crap and shove it up your moronic arse.

      • Muppet Detector on 27/09/2025 - 17:32
        +1

        There's about thirty right now who I bet are feeling pretty sorry for themselves.

        Besides, it's not about those who choose not to vaccinate. If they're prepared to risk their health and life, I've got no problem with that, it's the people who cannot be vaccinated and get sick that are the concern.

        • tenpercent on 27/09/2025 - 18:02
          -1

          I haven't actually seen that news. Can you provide a source regarding those 30 people who are not vaccinated for the measles and are complaining about getting it?
          Are any of those 30 people unable to get vaccinated due to other health complications?

      • smartazz104 on 27/09/2025 - 22:35
        +1

        Unfortunately not, they’re all dead.

        • tenpercent on 28/09/2025 - 11:53

          So you agree those people don't exist don't exist and therefore the original comment I was replying to was just a strawman?

          they’re all dead.

          How many measles deaths were there in Australia last year?

      • Ughhh on 28/09/2025 - 11:33
        +1

        Can you point me to any sources showing Australians who aren't immunised for measles complaining about getting measles?

        Hmm good point. A few people I've come across who aren't immunised said they get off being all rashy and spotty, diarrhoea and all that.

        /s

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