Chinese Tyres. Can They Match The Value of TCL or BYD?

Hey Ozbargainers,

As someone who works in TV sales, I've seen firsthand how brands like TCL have disrupted the market. Their Mini LED TVs, in particular, offer near-OLED picture quality at a fraction of the price. I routinely advise customers to skip Samsung, LG, and Sony unless they're going for the absolute top-of-the-line OLED models. TCL simply offers unbeatable bang for your buck in that specific category.

It's worth noting that this is a relatively recent phenomenon. Even five years ago, Chinese TVs were definitely cheaper, but the quality was noticeably inferior. The latest generation of TVs from TCL and Hisense, however, have really closed the gap. That said, I understand that brand names, even among Chinese brands, don't always tell the whole story. Just like any other manufacturer, they have their budget models that are pretty average. I'd definitely buy a TCL Mini LED, but wouldn't necessarily say their bottom-of-the-range TVs are anything special. It's often the same average stuff at the entry-level, regardless of the brand, Chinese or otherwise.

I'm also a bit of a car enthusiast and have been closely following the rise of Chinese automakers like MG, GWM, and BYD. They're delivering compelling vehicles, both EVs and ICE cars, with features and performance comparable to established brands, but at significantly lower prices. Their value proposition across the board is really impressive.

It seems like this trend is happening across a range of industries. I've even heard from professional aircon installers that Chinese brands have really upped their game recently, offering competitive performance and reliability at lower price points. I'm not very clued in on solar panels and inverters, but this may also be happening in the solar industry.

This leads me to my question: are there any Chinese tyre brands that offer this same level of value? I'm not expecting Michelin or Pirelli performance, but something that provides solid everyday driving characteristics without the premium price tag. I'm not just interested in brand names, but specific model recommendations too.

I'm particularly interested in hearing from those with professional experience in the car or tyre industries, or those with in-depth knowledge of the tyre market. Have you come across any hidden gems from China? Any brands to look out for or avoid?

Let's keep this thread focused on informed opinions and real-world experiences. I'm definitely not a China-shill, and can criticise their anti competitive behaviours and politics all day, but that's beside the point.

Thanks in advance for the discussion, if it takes off.

TL;DR: Chinese brands like TCL, Hisense (TVs) and BYD, GWM(cars) now offer amazing value for money, rivaling big names at lower prices. Are there any Chinese tyre brands doing the same? Looking for recommendations from professionals or tyre experts.

Poll Options

  • 119
    All bad (why?)
  • 4
    Some OK (explain)
  • 49
    Some great! (explain)
  • 3
    As good as OLED TVs! (unlikely, but…)
  • 1
    Other (best value non-Chinese)

Comments

  • I put GoodRide AT tyres on a Delica since they had good reviews, and was reasonably happy with them. They did get a bit slippery cornering hard in the wet when they were nearly worn out, but really only when driving inappropriately for the conditions.
    The Goodride semi slicks seem to also have some good reviews. Nearly got a set for my MX5 but Hankook Ventus RS4s ended up slightly cheaper and I knew some people with them for first hand reviews. Always wonder how many of the online reviews are fake.
    The Hankooks (korean) have been very good for grassroots motorsport stuff, noticeably more grip than more expensive bridgestones.

    • +1

      Occurs to me a reason online reviews tend to be positive is because motorists shopping at the low end are likely driving on steel belts before getting new tyres. They experience a dramatic improvement which is reflected in their reviews.

      • I pay more attention to the written review than the ratings, they seemed to reflect well on the tyres, including comparisons with more expensive tyres, although I'm sure there is an element of what you expect for the cost.

  • Long long and Sailun are top rated already

    Pirelli and Michilen are made in china so the best known tyres come from china

    • NGL the last set of Pirelli's i had were shot by 20,000k's.
      Replaced with Chinese ones and they've barely worn in the same timeframe.

      • +1

        That's not always a good sign, softer tyres will wear down as they are used, a much harder compound wont, you might go that's great for lifespan but it usually makes for a poor quality of tyre where grip (wet and dry) and noise are sacrificed over lifespan. Safety is also a risk here if you can't stop quick enough.

        Softer tyres can also turn and become harder after a couple of years resulting in poor grip in the wet or dry, become loud etc Thats when its time to replace them, or ideally before you notice how bad they've become.

        • That was what i initially thought, however the pirellis even spun at low speeds which didn't fill me with confidence.

  • IMHO the Chinese tyre guys aren't looking to make performance tyres - they want mass produced, high volume cheap to make tyres to make the most profit.

    And a lot of consumer out there want that too - legal tyres to pass road worthy etc, and don't care about the rest.

  • +3

    When I buy a used car I often use the tyre brand as an indicator of what care has been taken. I wouldn't avoid a car purely on the tyre brand but it would make me wonder what else has been skimped on.

  • Not recent actually nearly 3 decades ago i was very short of cash and bought a couple of road car tyres made by a Chinese tractor tyre company to get me by and they actually had good tread and life.

    Dont remember the brand but i do remember at the time the tyre shop couldnt get anymore.

    So im sure there are some good chinese tyres out there finding the good ones might be not worth the effort.

  • +1

    "As someone who works in TV sales," & "I routinely advise customers to skip Samsung, LG, and Sony unless they're going for the absolute top-of-the-line OLED models." folowed by "I'm also a bit of a car enthusiast and have been closely following the rise of Chinese automakers like MG, GWM, and BYD"

    The lol's
    If someone in sales pushed a TCL to me I'd walk out, then you're a car enthusiast but seem to be closely following those brands? Nah, this doesn't track with anyone I know in consumer electronics sales or most car enthusiasts. Most wouldn't spend any real time on those brands.
    Feels like some propaganda to me.

    But to answer the question, no none of the tyres out of your favourite country would be tyres I'd be putting on my cars or suggesting family or friends do either.
    Sure some ling longs might meet a budget in some strange sizes in an emergency if there is no other option while traveling etc, but tyres aren't something to cheap out on if you're any sort of car enthusiast.
    It's also a great indication of how the owner looks after the rest of the vehicle, if they've also cheaped out on other repairs, replacement parts etc that just don't have the same quality or lifespan and will cost you more in the long run.

    • +4

      I have not seen a professional reviewer give a bad review to a C855, but the opposite. I'd trust this salesman, for value go TCL or Hisense, but if you are a videophile, top of range OLED from Sony, Samsung or LG. If a salesman told me otherwise, I'd be suspicious.

      https://www.techradar.com/televisions/tcl-c855-review

      https://cybershack.com.au/reviews/tcl-c855-2024-the-best-val…

      https://www.lbtechreviews.com/test/tv/tcl-c855-75c855

      TCL top range models also rate well on rtings.com.

      I've only seen bad comments from people who haven't owned one.

      • +3

        Purchased a C825 not to long ago, it did fail after a year but TCL support was great and it was replaced with a C845, the panel is absolutely incredible. I'm convinced the back/down (i forget) firing speakers on the 845 are inferior to the front firing speakers of the 825, but even then the sound is perfectly usable. Google TV / firmware is questionable, but I really am amazed at the quality of the panel for the price, it's truly nearing OLED level whilst being substantially cheaper. Highly recommend.

        I'd also like to put it out there, I am very very happy with my GWM Ora :)

  • I bought a set of 4 GRENLANDERs for my Outlander (only just realised they rhyme) back in 2021 and they have been great. Significantly better ride, noise and grip compared to the Bridgestones that they replaced. $488 fitted.

  • +1

    Thanks for the thoughts. In the spirit of using AI tools to summarise, here is the general summary of all comments posted so far, according to Gemini. TLDR at the top this time…

    TL;DR: Most people don't recommend Chinese tires due to concerns about quality, performance (especially in the wet), and safety. While they're cheaper, you might be sacrificing too much. Some brands might be okay, but do your research carefully!

    Gemini says:

    It seems like there are some strong opinions about Chinese tires in this thread! Here's a summary of what people are saying:
    General Sentiment: Mostly negative, with a few exceptions. Many users express concerns about quality, performance, and safety, particularly in wet conditions. However, some acknowledge that Chinese tires can offer good value for money, especially for those on a budget or who don't drive frequently.
    Key Factors:
    * Price: The main drawcard for Chinese tires is their affordability.
    * Quality: This is the biggest concern, with many users reporting issues with grip, noise, and overall performance, especially in wet conditions. Some suggest that quality control can be inconsistent.
    * Safety: Several users raise concerns about safety, particularly in wet weather, citing experiences with fishtailing and poor braking performance.
    * Durability: Mixed opinions on this, with some users reporting decent mileage while others suggest they wear out quickly.
    Specific Brands:
    * Winrun R330: Multiple users specifically call out this brand as being particularly bad, especially in the wet.
    * Sailun Attrezzo: Another brand receiving negative feedback, described as "rubbish" and feeling like "driving on ice."
    * Atlas Batman: While one user defends these tires, another describes them as "garbage" and "dangerous" in the wet.
    * Kingstar Road Fit: One user reports a positive experience with this brand, but notes that it's a sub-brand of Hankook.
    Nuance:
    * Some users acknowledge that Chinese manufacturing has improved and that some brands may be better than others.
    * A few users suggest that Chinese tires might be acceptable for those on a tight budget, for cars that aren't driven frequently, or for those who prioritize value over performance.
    * One user points out that many brand-name tires are now made in China, suggesting that it's important to focus on the specific brand and tire model rather than just the country of origin.
    Overall, the consensus seems to be that while Chinese tires can be tempting due to their low price, they often come with compromises in terms of quality, performance, and safety. It's crucial to do your research and carefully consider your needs and priorities before opting for Chinese tires.
    It's also important to note that this is just a small sample of opinions, and individual experiences can vary. You may want to consult professional tire reviews and seek advice from trusted mechanics or tire experts before making a decision.

  • +3

    As someone who works in TV sales, I've seen firsthand how brands like TCL have disrupted the market.

    I'm also a bit of a car enthusiast and have been closely following the rise of Chinese automakers like MG, GWM, and BYD. They're delivering compelling vehicles, both EVs and ICE cars, with features and performance comparable to established brands, but at significantly lower prices. Their value proposition across the board is really impressive.

    It seems like this trend is happening across a range of industries. I've even heard from professional aircon installers that Chinese brands have really upped their game recently, offering competitive performance and reliability at lower price points. I'm not very clued in on solar panels and inverters, but this may also be happening in the solar industry.

    This leads me to my question: are there any Chinese tyre brands that offer this same level of value?

    imo tyres aren't comparable to industries such as TV, car, aircon, solar - unlike those, there's the key life-and-death / health-and-safety factor

    as with health, one shouldn't skimp on tyres:

    • +1

      Yes, this seems to be the consensus. As many others have mentioned too, poor quality may not necessarily be obvious to people on a budget or who are already running worn down tyres - mostly anything will be better.

      I started this thread as I had really not followed this sector and was curious as to whether it was a repeating trend.

      I've been convinced it is too early still to trust most Chinese tyres. For the slightly higher cost of the known brands, those brands do seem to offer better value as a good mix of quality and price, as opposed to straight up being cheapest. I suppose I'll be waiting for a 50% off Pirelli deal ;)

  • +1

    Good to reasonable tyres don’t have to be expensive.

    Nexen 215/55R17 94V NBLUE HD PLUS $125 at Tempe tyres fitted.

    https://www.tempetyres.com.au/tyreproducts?nexen-215/55r17-9…

    https://eprel.ec.europa.eu/screen/product/tyres/456908?navig…

    “A” grade rating in the wet

    Same size Winrun tyres $115.

    https://www.tempetyres.com.au/tyreproducts?winrun-2155517-98…

    Only $10 difference per tyre for much better Nexen tyres

    Proof can get decent tyres for almost same amount and don’t have to buy cheap yum cha tyres

    • Yes I've come to that conclusion as well. Although cheaper, Chinese tyres aren't good value. Better off spending a little more for substantially better tyres. I'll look into the Nexen. I was otherwise going to wait for a Pirelli black friday deal

    • Exactly this. I've had great experiecnes with Nexen (Korean?) SUV PrizN tyres on the Xtrail . Low noise, great wear, dry grip. for $1x0 a corner it was amazing value. Have Bridgestone Turanzas on them now and the only difference is the wet grip is better. Also the price was more than double per corner at $260~.

  • Chinese tyres are very popular in Australia just like BYD, Polestar and Havel are.

    The quality is undeniable, the trust in CCP absolute.

  • Side issue. What large 98 TV would you recommend? Thinking of upgrading & would love independent advice.

  • I have Winrun on my 2017 VF ClubSport and they are great wet or dry. Much better grip than the Continentals that were on the car before. Maybe a touch more road noise but hey not a quiet car. Have done a couple of track days and a day at the drags but still look like new
    Car gets driven hard but cannot fault

  • -2

    The comments are really disappointing. Expect a couple, all are relevant to the topic. Zero entertainment value!

  • The Chinese tires are built so well, they double as their submarine hulls!

  • Shocked to read how bad some posters tyres have been and that I’m sharing the roads with unsafe vehicles like that. I put new Michelins on my last car. Didn’t realise they were Made in China until I read the sidewall to check the manufacture date. Great but starting to get hard at five years, 30k kms, but that’s a known thing with ageing tyres. Even my 2022 Japanese Bridgestones are feeling rougher than when new but I am driving shocking roads in Victoria. Anyone driven the Geelong bypass recently? It’s a tyre killer.
    Buy the best tyres you can find, and avoid Victorian roads is my take.

  • +1

    Same car, 255 19's, tried Pirelli P Zero's, Conti's and Yoko, what’s that; Italian, German and Jap.

    Now on Goodrides and have been for approx. 32K kms. Chinese

    Pirelli were the softest, worn the quickest and probably the quietest. Great dry grip and good wet grip. Got about 32K out of them. About $550 a tyre.

    Conti's CSC a good allrounder, cheaper than the Pirelli and matched the Pirelli's above for grip. 35K Paid around $400 a tyre

    Yoko's were the nosiest, not great in the wet but good in dry. Got 35K out of them, but could have had 37K if it wasn't for a slight tow-in that wore them a little more. About $350 a tyre. Big issue was these tyres got so many chips in them. Not sure if it was old rubber or it the rubber was just too brittle.

    Goodrides (SU318) are about as quiet as the Conti' on the motorway (72dB), good grip in the dry and somewhere between the Conti's and Yoko in the wet. $180 a tyre. 32K atm and probably about another 5-7K left. No chipping at all.

    Millage, dBs, is easy to measure, wet and dry grip is very subjective, and I’m far for pushing a standard road car to the point of loss of traction. PSI is 45 PSI (F), 42 PSI (R), checked every three weeks, Air.

    Keep in mind that tread pattern, and compound pay an important part of the grip and durability. You can't really compare one tyre from one brand and expect those characteristics to follow through across the range.

    In other cars I've use Bridgestone, which were a brilliant allrounder and value, but yet to try them on my current car.

    IMO, I think it’s hard to get a bad tyre from the top tier brands, Pirelli, Conti, Bridgestone, Michelin etc. I think the mid brands, Kohmo, Hankook Goodyear etc are a little tricker. For the Chinese brands, I think I’d only use Goodride. Personally, I wouldn’t touch Rapid’s Winruns, Pace, etc.

    The reason I tried the Goodride was due to a recommendation and being the largest Chinese manufacturer and in the top 10 by volume worldwide. This gave me some reassurances that they had solid R&D, consistency with manufacturing and volume. Worst case was that I replaced them if I hated them. Decades of sticking with the top tiers I wanted to try something different, as long as it wasn’t rubbish…and anyone that driven on rubbish tyres knows how bad they can be, zero grip is deadly.

    • zero grip is deadly

      +1

    • +1

      Hey mrhugo,

      Thanks for the detailed comparaison. Exactly what I was hoping to find in here.

  • I believe some of the Hisense tv deals have been even better bang for the buck than TCL in the last few years.

  • I don’t even bother if they ain’t stocked at bob jane or my car

  • +2

    I drive around 15,000kms per year. The car has had Chinese made 4x Austone Athena SP-802 tyres for more than a year now, no issue and feel not much different compared to the lower end models from Bridgestone Ecopia EP300 (wears out quickly) or Toyo (noisy) that I've used in the past. The Austone tyres are cheaper which was why I went with it. I can also say that it's quieter in the car with Austone tyres. No complaint so far.

  • -1

    TCL TVs are terrible - the panels are barely passable and everything else including start up and action response times are just abysmal.

    As for tyres - do you really want the only things gripping your vehicle at speed to the ground to be the cheapest cost cut crap available?

    There's some things you don't cheap out on man.

  • Personally I don’t like to skimp on tyres because a $50-100 difference can mean the safety of the occupants in your car.

    That being said, I’ve always used brands like Pirelli, Bridgestone, Toyo, and Michelin. All are a mixture of HT and AT tyres and handle well in the rain.

    Recently the missus picked up a used Jazz and it came with almost new Rapid tyres. I gave them a spin in the wet and they handled pretty well.

    Unfortunately I don’t have experience in other Chinese brand tyres.

  • +1

    only use linglongs or winruns on my track cars.

  • I am running Winrun 330XL on my Tesla 3 AWD LR that does 0 to 100km/hr in around 3.9sec. I paid around $125 each fitted and balanced. I have done around 8K km's in wet and dry conditions, smooth highways and rough country roads. Tires have performed really well. I have a heavy foot and enjoy the torque and instant acceleration irrespective of wet or dry road conditions. I have never fishtailed or lost any control with the Winrun's on wet or dry roads.

    • Thanks for the input. Perhaps the low centre mass and weight of the EVs negate some of the grip issues people have had with these tyres? That's some good feedback though, thanks.

  • Check the Russian equipment in Ukraine. The Chinese electronics, drones or other car components, are performing far better than their tires.

  • I bought a set of 4 Kenda tyres before EOFY a few years ago, I needed new tyres for the company car and left it too late and the Kenda were the only ones the shop had in stock. They are a Kumho Premium Dealer, I went to get Kumhos but they didn't have any in stock but said the Kendas were pretty much as good. Wow they were so wrong!

    Set of 4 on a Mazda6 wagon - worst tyres I've ever owned. They were noisy at highway speeds and were like ice skates in the wet. Absolute garbage, the only thing I'll say for them was they wore pretty slowly.

    I had them for 10 months and got rid of them before EOFY and put Goodyear Eagle F1 on instead of it was like an entirely new car.

    Will not be buying cheap tyres again. And won't go back to that tyre shop either.

  • With the BYD Atto, I drove 30K kms on the factory supplied Batman tyres before i changed them out for Kumhos. The chinese tyres are loud and don't have a comfortable drive, but i don't think thats what they are going for. The Chinese tyres must be cheaper to produce.

    although saying that, the BYD Seals are supplied with continentals so maybe BYD is understanding Aussie roads better.

  • Just because we can, should we? Should we start to buy the Chinese products and take away market share from Australian companies and put enough strain on them that they close their doors and put us out of jobs? Should we create such a reliance on Chinese brands/ products that they become more powerful? Really?

  • A wise man once told me to never cheap out on things that go between you and the ground: shoes, mattress, tyres.

    It's hard to fathom now, but given enough time I'm sure at least one brand will emerge as a good quality substitute. Until then I'm sticking to tyres that are well regarded by motoring enthusiasts such as Michelin, Bridgestone or Pirelli etc.

    • +1

      A wise man once told me to never cheap out on things that go between you and the ground: shoes, mattress, tyres.

      +1 - you sleep on the ground? :)

  • You can skimp on a lot of things in life but brakes and tyres shouldn’t be it. Plenty of tyre tests out there for all budget so get the best you can afford

  • If you want to live long, don't buy ling long.

  • FWIW I have also done research into Chinese tyres.
    My last 2 sets have been Michelins. Last set was Pilots, lasted well in excess of 80,000k.
    Current set are Primacy, and have been going for 30,000k so far with heaps & heaps of tread to go. They'll last 80,000 easy. Great in wet, reasonably quiet.

    Moral? Don't cheap out on tyres.

  • +1

    I got bored after the title…

    Can someone clarify, I need to use TCL TV's for tyres now?

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