Canon EOS M twin lens kit (with bundled flash unit) $488.85 + $9.95 delivery (ryda.com.au)

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  King Steuart on 05/10/2013 - 06:51

  How does this compare to the 100D?

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    Mugsy on 05/10/2013 - 07:46

    100D is a DSLR, EOS-M is a mirrorless design. Both use the same APS-C sized sensor (100D might be a newer gen? Don't really keep up with sensor tech these days). The 100D ought to perform better speed wise.

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    cheepwun on 05/10/2013 - 07:55

    +1

    How does this compare to the 100D?

    100D is also known as the SL1.
    See the comparisons with the SL1 on the review link above (at various ISOs).

    Long story short: identical picture quality to the 100D (SL1).

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      King Steuart on 05/10/2013 - 09:54

      Oh thanks!

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  TechAddict on 05/10/2013 - 07:55

  +1

  I have this and yes the AF is slow (after firmware update) but still usable. The IQ with the 22mm is amazing. Basically it is a shrunken down 650D without the OVF. You are getting DSLR IQ in the size of a compact and that for me is what I need.

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    Mugsy on 05/10/2013 - 08:48

    Compact with the 22mm that is ;-)

    But at least the option is there.

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  k on 05/10/2013 - 10:35

  +3

  Use the code RYDAMX for free delivery!

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    cheepwun on 05/10/2013 - 10:39

    Top tip. Updating listing now.
    Cheers.

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  Billygoat on 05/10/2013 - 11:17

  Looking at getting the cannon 700d any thoughts.
  (I know I should start my own thread. )

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    cheepwun on 05/10/2013 - 11:55

    +1

    Looking at getting the cannon 700d any thoughts.

    If you want a better grip, tilting LCD and optical viewfinder, a traditional DSLR like the 700d seems like a good choice. The EOS M will give you a far more compact body but with slower autofocus, no viewfinder, stationary LCD (although it is good) and less battery life. Fast action shots a priority? Definitely go the DSLR. The EOS M is no speedy machine when it comes to autofocus.

    But the EOS M has its own advantages. Only a few native EF-M lenses are available, but they are high-quality (including a wide-angle some shooters are raving about). 100% live view. Compact size.

    I love the 22mm and originally bought the EOS M from the USA because I wanted that lens. At night, I often prefer to just use the 22mm on the EOS M. It makes for a great low-light lens. I don't like using the EOS M in bright sun though (no viewfinder). I was surprised at how good the touchscreen is in use, as well as the general build quality, heft and the video recording capabilities (full manual control, lossless audio recording & mic input).

    With the (optional) Canon lens adapter ($129 USD at B&H), you can use all your existing Canon lenses on the EOS M too. So there's a bit of flexibility there too. Flash accessories are all compatible too (unlike Nikon's approach with mirrorless).

    It comes down to what you are after (and how much you are prepared to pay). I just couldn't pass up the EOS M after price-drop.

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  jjcf on 05/10/2013 - 11:31

  -1

  I bought one of these to tear apart and convert to IR. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a main camera, it's horrible to use. If you absolutely insist on spending as little money as possible and buying a dirt cheap Canon body, get the 100D.

  Actually, quit your whining and get a used 50D.

  The 22/2 is pretty decent.

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    cheepwun on 05/10/2013 - 13:52

    If you absolutely insist on spending as little money as possible and buying a dirt cheap Canon body, get the 100D.

    Not sure what prices you're seeing?
    The 100D is selling at Ted's for $699.95 and that's body-only (no lens).

    http://www.jbhifi.com.au/photo/digital-cameras/canon/eos-100…
    It's $749 with kit lens at jb-hifi (for example)

    You can get cheaper Canon DSLRs than that if money-savings are the goal.
    http://www.jbhifi.com.au/photo/digital-cameras/canon/eos-110…
    $449 with one kit lens.

    http://www.jbhifi.com.au/photo/digital-cameras/canon/eos-600…
    This one is $649 with one kit lens.

    100D is far from dirt cheap when you look at other DSLRs. It's relatively expensive compared to them.

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      jjcf on 06/10/2013 - 11:31

      I left the 1100D out on purpose, because it's a crippled piece of junk. The 100D is the cheapest current Canon model that doesn't suck. That was the entire point.

      People who buy dslrs with the aim of not spending any more money are deluding themselves anyways.

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    lapsangsuchong on 06/10/2013 - 17:10

    I strongly disagree.

    I have the EOS-M and find it very versatile. It has replaced my regular 550D as I am able to carry the M with me easily. I've got the twin lens kit (18-55 + 22) and it serves casual shooting very well. With the new firmware update, I find AF speed is excellent with the EF-M lenses, while the M does take slightly longer to focus on EF-S and EF lenses (roughly 400-800ms longer than my 550D depending on lens). My wife loves the ability to select focus with the touchscreen/liveview.

    With the EF-M adapter I am able to utilize my existing lens collection (EF 18-135mm, 40mm, 50mm, 55-250mm; sigma 10-20mm) and the M performs very well, on par with the 550D. The only downside is Magiclantern has yet to be ported to the M.

    I find it silly that some people would compare prosumer level cameras with professional/semi-pro models that are often significantly more expensive.

    For a casual/prosumer who wants to get into the mirrorless format, the EOS-M is a great and affordable camera, especially if you already have canon lenses. If you're a pro who has specific needs (sports/wedding/low-light) then you already know the M isn't the workhorse you need (but great as backup shooter with the ef-m adapter). The M is simple, cheap, and great for beginners to learn DSLR basics, while it retains enough capability to be handy for prosumers who already have an established canon lens collection.

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  mrdeal on 05/10/2013 - 18:02

  Went to Binglee (they had it for $555.00)
  Got them to beat this and got for $470.00
  Good little camera.not bulky as dslr.

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  paul_ahb on 09/10/2013 - 21:28

  +2

  I just bought this. I have only been using it for a couple of hours but low light focusing is fantastic - nothing at all like most of the reviews. I suspect that the newer firmware has solved the slow focusing speed issues. To put this in perspective I also own a 5D mark II and a 600D with a few L lenses.

  I suspect that I will still use my DSLRs if I have them with me due to the ease of accessing features with hard buttons but I don't think that I would have any complaints if this was my only camera.

  If I am unsure whether I will be wanting to take my bigger cameras to an event then I will definitely just bring this one because it is very light. I am not sure what to use the tiny flash for that came with it. I might bring a camera bag big enough to accommodate one of my more serious flashes for bounce flash work.

  This camera is a fantastic bargain at under $500 for the body and lenses.

  Big thankyou to OP!

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    TechAddict on 10/10/2013 - 15:53

    +1

    Get the EF to EF-M adaptor for your L lenses. You can also mount your Speedlite on the M.

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    dmz on 10/10/2013 - 21:57

    "I am not sure what to use the tiny flash for that came with it."

    The 90EX can serve as a wireless (optical) master, and trigger your other Canon flashes.

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    cheepwun on 11/10/2013 - 12:13

    This camera is a fantastic bargain at under $500 for the body and lenses.

    I actually bought a second body to add to my 22mm kit from the USA. Received it today.

    Big thankyou to OP!

    My pleasure. It's great to hear feedback like this.

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  paul_ahb on 11/10/2013 - 07:25

  Thanks DMZ. I tried to look at this option but I didn't find any options in the external speedlight control for master/slave control like on the 580ex2. Maybe I have to read the manual :(

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    dmz on 11/10/2013 - 08:30

    It's all controlled through the camera body… so maybe it depends which body you're using. Works great on a 6D. I've read reports that it works on the 5D Mark II, but I haven't seen it personally.

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  cheepwun on 16/10/2013 - 16:49

  Price has gone up to 588.85 ($100 more). Marking as expired.