Looking for a powerful Android phone, less than 4inch screen, less than $200

Hi all!

I'm looking for a powerful Android phone, with less than 4 inch screen (the smaller the better), for less than $200 (the cheaper the better).

I'm upgrading from a Sony Xperia Ray with a 3.3 inch screen, only because it is getting sluggish, even for just running Gmail, Feedly, Google Maps, etc. I'm not interested in a big screen, or games. I just want a compact, fast phone for running every day essential web apps. So small screen is fine but high resolution is important - should preferably match the Xperia Ray that has 854×480.

Have you got any suggestions, either for particular phones or links to recommended comparison sites? Thanks in advance :-)

Cheers,
Roy

Comments

  • +10

    You can give your old phone a new lease on life by flashing a custom ROM (CyanogenMod). Most Android phones start to lag and slow down after extended use but a factory reset and a new ROM install can make it run like new again.

    If you're still set on an upgrade, either look into importing a Moto G from Amazon UK or grab a Huawei G525 locally.

    These phones are however 4.5 inches, but you can use the Phone Finder on GSM arena to look for phones under 4 inches
    http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sName=&idMaker=0&idAvai…

    You can also specify a minimum CPU speed, no. of cores and screen resolution.

    Do note if you're after a powerful device you will need to actually look for 4+ inch phone.
    This is due to bigger phones having larger batteries in order to keep up with multi-core processors and other power-hungry components.

    Smaller phones will need to have smaller batteries, usually under 1500mah in order to fit inside the chassis. This also means the hardware won't be as powerful.

    • Do note if you're after a powerful device you will need to actually look for 4+ inch phone.

      ^Pretty much this.

      Definitely worth trying Cyanogenmod.
      Back up all your data (cause it will be wiped in the installation process)
      Then go here to get the Cyanogenmod Installer App which will guide you through the install.
      http://get.cm/app

      • hows it different from normal andriod and is it supported?

        • It's a fork of the Android Open Source Project ie essentially Nexus software with a range of useful tweaks and extra features.
          It is supported by a community of volunteer developers and a few paid employees at Cyanogenmod Inc.
          The Xperia Ray is supported.

  • +1

    +1 to the moto G. Another option is to try and get maybe a gs3 mini secondhand?

    • Thanks. Any idea from where and for how much a gs3 mini would go for?

  • Aye. I'd wait for the Moto G. 4.5" screen, but minimal bezels

  • Thanks all :-) Will have to think about that… 4.5" and $214 is bigger and more expensive than I was hoping. But if there's no good smaller & cheaper option seems I've got to compromise…

    • +2

      Try Huawei y300. If your budget is low. Search ozbargain for feedback.

  • If the sub-4 inch screen in the main priority then the Motorola Defy Plus might be the go. It is a fave here at OB.
    Small, bulletproof, hackable. Reliable as well. Specs here;
    http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_defy+-4098.php
    I have one here. My son used it for 3 days, and went back to his iPhone. Rooted and runs Cyogenmod 4.1.1 (ICS). Has protective case and spare [unused] battery. Give me a DM if you want it. Will be WAY cheaper than $200!

    • Will have very similar performance to his existing phone..
      The Defy was OK in it's day, but it's day was getting on for 2 years ago.

  • Honestly, priority is in this order:
    1) faster than my current Xperia Ray
    2) 4" or smaller (will have to see if the small bezels of the Moto G 4.5" make it small enough…)
    3) cheaper is better

    If the Moto G was 4" or less, I would pay up. On the other hand, if the Huawei etc. are not much faster than my current phone, there wouldn't be any point.

    • Many phones will be faster than your Xperia Ray (which is now close to 3 years old). Your current device only runs a single core CPU which is based on old architecture.

      Even a budget no-name device using a MediaTek 6577 will run circles around your device. The performance of mobile ARM processors have pretty much tripled in the last few years.

      • Even the Motorola Defy Plus, recommended by branners above?

        • +6

          The Defy plus was introducced in 2011, the same year as your current Xperia device. It is unfortunately by today's standards a bit of a dinosaur because of the limited 512MB RAM and 1GB of ROM.

          If you want a phone that is small and responsive, try a Nokia Lumia 520 phone (sometimes on sale for less than $150). Windows 8 Mobile requires much less memory than Android 4.2 and is optimised to run on lower end hardware.

          You could also try Xperia M. A little pricey at $209 though.
          http://www.uniquemobiles.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=sony…

          Go with Huawei Y300 if you're on tight budget.

  • +3

    What about the Razor M?
    https://onlineshop.telstra.com.au/prepaid-mobile/mobile-phon…

    I know it's over 4" but it has a narrow bezel so it's the same size as some 4" phones.

    50% off at Telstra - great little phone.

    • Could be the best choice so far.

  • Hey

    Just a heads up about a deal at Office works

    Sony Xperia U (a step up from your current phone. No difficulty in syncing contacts/data?)

    GSM GPRS/EDGE 850,900,1800,1900
    Powered by Android 2.3 platform (Gingerbread)
    1 GHz dual core processor gives super fast performance
    3.5 inch scratch-resistant TFT touchscreen, 16 million colours, 854 x 480 pixels
    Reality display with Mobile BRAVIA Engine
    Scratch-resistant, anti-reflection coating on mineral glass
    Capacitive touchscreen with on-screen QWERTY keyboard
    5MP camera with auto focus, 16x digital zoom, LED flash
    720p HD video recording
    Internal phone storage: 8GB (4 GB user-accessible).
    Media Player
    FM Radio with RDS
    3.5 mm audio jack for headphones
    USB High speed 2.0 and Micro USB support
    Bluetooth
    WiFi
    Music Playback Time: Up to 45 hours
    Talk Time: Up to 6 hours
    Standby Time: Up to 472 hours

    $199 clearance
    Not sure if still available but it is still on the website

    http://m.officeworks.com.au/mt/www.officeworks.com.au/retail…

    • Another good option, but you can probably get a better price than this.. From memory it retailed around $250 when launched!

    • i have that phone its good but needs a factory reset after months of use as it slows down. also i got it at that price when it was released, cant believe its still at that price what the hell.

  • +3

    I know it's bigger and more expensive than what you're looking for, (sorry, I hate it when advice starts out like that myself, but…) but I think the Moto G would overall last you longer than the GS3 Mini or similar.

    Its skin is lightweight, it's recent and it's starting out on 4.3, so it's not running (terribly) old hardware and it never had to experience the TRIM-less days of Android and wont't get bogged down so easily. Its display is probably the best in class for its price range and the build quality and curvature of the phone is reportedly very nice (minimises the feeling of the larger display - as does the fact that the buttons are onscreen). The only thing objectively going against it is the lack of 4G and NFC. I don't mind larger phones, though, so I don't know exactly how big of a differentiating factor it is versus other factors.

    If you really want to go cheaper and smaller, I'd say just go with the WP8 Lumia 520. Though Android is (with 4.4, supposedly) making inroads on the low end, I think the 520 is still generally reviewed as the way to go at that level. If you really want Android, but a relatively small screen, my third option would be the Razr M as someone posted above.

    • Thanks! Think I need to find myself a Moto G and a Razr M in-store to play with :-D

      About the Lumia…hmmmm, I guess I could be swayed, but for my sanity I think I'd rather limit the choices to Android only… :)

  • +2

    For under $200 it is hard to beat the Huawei G526.

    • LOL @ DickSmith Specs

      Alarm No
      Built In Speakerphone No
      Downloadable Ringtones No
      Flash No
      Gaming Compatible No
      Caller ID No
      GPS Enabled No
      GSM No
      Headphone Jack No
      Memory Card Slot No
      Mobile EDGE No
      Mobile Email No
      Mobile HSDPA No
      Mobile Multimedia Message No
      Video Calling No
      Infrared Sensor No
      Internet Capabilities No
      Video Capture No
      Ambient Sensor No
      Auto Focus No
      Mobile WAP No
      Backlight Display No
      Battery Included No
      Photo & Document Viewer No
      Calendar No
      Radio No
      Camera Self Timer No
      Camera White Balance Auto No
      Clock No
      USB Port No
      Colour Screen No
      Volume Control No
      Water Proof No
      Web Access No
      Dust Proof No
      Wi-Fi No
      FM Radio No
      Hands Free Operation No
      NFC No
      Hearing Aid Compatible No
      HSCSD No
      Keypad Lock No
      Micro-SIM Card Tray No
      Microphone No
      Mobile GPRS No
      Mobile Infrared No
      Mobile Music Player No
      Push To Talk No
      Qwerty Keyboard No
      Mobile WCDMA No
      Mobile WLAN No
      Big Button Keypad No
      Phone Book Memory No
      Plug and Play No
      Polyphonic Ringtones No
      Scratch Resistant No
      Shock Proof No
      SOS Shortcut No

      • +1

        Dicksmith GrumpyCat says ' NO'.

  • easy htc desire 300. totally modern spec - htc blinkfeed great for major web apps.

    $179 http://www.dicksmith.com.au/prepaid-mobile-phones/telstra-ht…

    only other good device under 200 sold locally is the nokia lumia 520 on win 8 $176
    http://www.harveynorman.com.au/nokia-lumia-520-windows-8-sma…
    from harvey norman similar price. great consumer reviews. i know ppl who have bought and are vhappy as are all reviews u read for major web apps.

    Rest are rubbish unless u import MotoG/buy second hand nexus 4 etc. But a cutprice 80% specc'd HTC One on Telstra is a great device for under $200

    http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-300/

    Advanced yet affordable, the HTC Desire 300 offers the latest smartphone features to keep you up to date without going over budget. Vibrant display with an always-refreshing home screen, HTC Music Channel, and snappy browsing speeds.

    Key Features:

    HTC BlinkFeed
    Dual Core 1GHz Processor
    Spacious, vivid 4.3" WVGA display
    5MP Camera with VGA Front Facing camera
    Android Jelly Bean with HTC SenseTM
    
    • +1

      totally modern spec

      a cutprice 80% specc'd HTC One

      That's fairly misleading. This is really nowhere near 80% of a HTC One; the TFT display leaves a lot to be desired with an average pixel density from 2011, it has 512MB of RAM (definitely not good for longevity), the SoC isn't terribly efficient (45nm process) and has an extremely low-powered Cortex-A5 based CPU (this was in 2010 phones… not modern at all) and, to match, a last gen Adreno GPU that was relatively bottom-of-the-bucket even then. The 1659mAh battery is on the small side as well. The Motorola Razr M was released a year earlier and has better specs and LTE.

      Add to that, the bezels are massive to accomomdate the capacitive buttons and speaker up the top, so it's going to be physically fairly large as well (larger than both the Moto G and Razr M)

      • fairly misleading?
        If a retailer stated that, they'd be banned for outright lying!

        512Mb RAM is the first MAJOR giveaway that this isn't even a 10th of an HTC One! (that's 2010 flagship range - ie Galaxy S)
        Screen Resolution is the second 800x480 (you guessed it that's what the Galaxy S had back in 2010)
        Dual Core 1GHz Processor is the third
        Then there's the lame 4Gb ROM (HTC are so stingy!)
        And the Network support is only triband 3G (so only works on Telstra in regional areas)

      • i'm going firstly by buyer's stated budget and requirements. he wants android, small, new, modern and well under $200.
        The Telstra discounted older Motorola Razr that was presented is only other option that almost meets buyer's choice.
        (he appears to want to pay well under $200 if possible and I'm not counting second hand, he can have my galaxy nexus for free)
        I also think based on owner's and blog reviews, the Nokia 520 is better but that would be only useful if he wants Win8.

        tho a note2 user till note3 drops a bit more, i've also got htc one and read all the reviews by people who have tested HTC 300 phone it's supposed to be average to good and great FOR PRICE. Same operating system Sense 5.0 on Android is like having 4.4 on a Nexus device not the experience, just HTC 300 and One share DNA. Of course it's not a ONE.
        It doesn't have the still best in class IPS 468PPI double speakers and so on. Its under $200.
        But it has Blinkfeed and a modern HTC Android Operating system.
        I like Huawei for mifi routers but their phones are well i'd stay with nokia and h&c.
        Good and bad points from Phone Arena;

        "In a world of 5-inch and larger phones, this comparatively smaller handset feels very comfortable to hold and great to use with one hand. The screen is not among the sharpest out there, but it’s not terrible either; we have to admit that text and icons are pixelized. We are pleased by the vibrant colors that the Desire 300 puts out, especially given its affordable price. The screen has very deep blacks and nice contrast to it. It is not without its slight flaws of course and if we had to pick the nits, we’d mention that colors tend to be on the colder side and reds appear a bit muted. The screen is not the brightest out there, but it has enough luminance to be readable in broad daylight. Viewing angles are very good and images preserve their natural colors even at more extreme angles. The Desire 300 runs on the somewhat dated Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean platform with HTC’s own Sense 5.0 skin on top. This clean and modern iteration of Sense is familiar to smartphone afficionados as it’s been used in a bunch of phones by now, starting with the HTC One and down to HTC’s more affordable devices. On the flipside of things, most core apps like the dialer and messenger look good. HTC’s contacts app allows you to conveniently swipe between tabs. The keyboard is great - after mixed feelings initially, we’ve come to love it for its large and spacious keys that provide for an awesome typing experience. The reason for this lies under the hood. The Desire 300 runs on the most basic Snapdragon S4 chip, the MSM8225. It’s a dual-core 1GHz chip, but unlike most other S4s it is build on an older and less efficient, 45nm technology and is based on the dated ARM Cortex A5 architecture. It’s a chip that became available in the first half of last year and in late 2013 it definitely feels slow. The fact that the handset packs merely 512MB of RAM on board does not help either. In terms of graphics, you get Adreno 203 and this will be enough to get less demanding yet still popular games to run. Temple Run 2 and other endless runners for instance would work with a slight stutter, but playable. The Desire 300 comes with 4GB of internal storage, but the user available space is below 2 gigs. That is definitely insufficient. Luckily, storage is expandable and you can add up to 32GB more via microSD card. HTC has equipped the Desire 300 with both its own browser and Google’s mobile Chrome for accessing the web. We like both solutions - HTC’s browser feels just a bit richer in options, but has a clunkier user interface, while Chrome is clean, simple and speedy with a brilliantly optimized mobile UI. You can feel a slight stutter in browsing on both, especially when scrolling around, but nothing terrible. The Desire 300 does not support 4G LTE connectivity and is instead limited to 3G. Downlink speeds max out the fairly low 7.2Mbps, and you may feel this if you stream a lot of videos or download larger files to the device. Other connectivity options include Bluetooth 4.0, Wi-Fi b/g/n and GPS, but fancy stuff like NFC is missing. The phone comes with a run-of-the-mill 5-megapixel auto-focus camera that lacks flash. We appreciate the fact that HTC includes a front camera as well in such an affordable device. The camera is fairly quick to boot and that’s a plus for impromptu shooting. The interface features large and easy to press separate buttons for image stills and video which is nice. The 4.3-inch screen definitely provides enough space for those who like to watch video on their mobile devices. For video, you have Google’s great YouTube application on board and the built in basic HTC video player. The handset handled all formats we threw at it at native resolution, but we’d recommend downloading a separate video player in lieu of the HTC one for more features and a more flexible interface."
        http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-Desire-300-Review_id34…

        • +1

          Firstly, this post is a rebuttal and is not intended to cause offence or to discourage you from posting in the forums…

          Secondly, you were the one who said it was 80% of the HTC One.. we were refuting that claim, cause it's outright bogus.

          Thirdly, there are still problems with your suggestion and your argument to support it;

          i'm going firstly by buyer's stated budget and requirements.

          Are you really?
          You've suggested a phone with screen greater than 4" that is significantly worse in every measure against another greater than 4" suggestion in the RAZR M.
          Screen Resolution, Battery capacity, CPU performance, ROM, RAM, Network compatibility (no 4G and Telstra Only) and it's physically bigger in every dimension!
          And you then come out with this doozie!

          only other good device under 200 sold locally is the nokia lumia 520

          The only thing going for the Desire 300 is that it's $20 cheaper than the RAZR M!
          Arguably the advantages of the RAZR M are well worth the $20 and more and it squeezes in under the $200 limit.

        • i'm far from offended or considering not posting in forums:) i totally agree the razr m is in the buyer's sweetspot. it may be the best phone at the $200 mark. but it's a stretch to say it is (substantially) "under" $200. not "at" $200. UNDER.
          i agree it's worth the extra $20 as it'd have more grunt and really it depends whether buy wants a nokia/win8 experience, a h&c blink feed experience, a huawei one, or grab device with most grunt, root/install whatever rom of day is.
          but not all buyers have the extra $20. like going to JB or Harvey Norman for a specific sale and they try to sell u the more expensive model with more margin.
          it seems i could come onto forums sometimes and say i want to buy a phone for my kid, uni, phone calls, web browsing or whatever the requirement is and droid/rom/bois will say either buy the latest (insert phone of day) whether it's moto g / x / or nexus 4 / 5 or alternately.. go to gumtree, meet a shady dood buy a second hand stolen bogus phone when all the person really wants is a new in box working device that is best available at certain price… (and let me say i love gumtree and bought a new gnex thru it no probs and bought sold many other things)
          But buyer had a pretty basic brief: Prob the huawei, the razr m, desire 300, nokia 520 best meet the need. the razr m may well be best. no argument there. the buyer should go to the stores and watch youtube of the different operating systems and see which suits his need more. depends which apps he most needs or if phone calls are more important or Facebook or texts etc.
          the brief for the smaller phone is prob unrealistic as buyer admits. market has moved on. the desire is noted for it's small form factor. and the razor and lumia aren't big either so size is negated.

  • for second hand you could easily get nexus 4 8 gb, on gumtree for around $200.

    or 16 gb between $200-$250.

    I recently sold 16 gb one, perfect condition. 6 months + warranty for $230.

  • Mate I have a Sony xperia sola (second hand $100), in terms of spec its very similar to the xperia u but has a 3.7` screen, NFC and SD card slot. I would say that its probably the best phone in terms bang for buck thats under the 4' range and is small.
    However its still a mid range phone, and it performs like one. OK for phone calls and a bit of web browsing. But load it up with widgets, use the GPS, and some popular news apps and it seems to run out of steam (ram) and batt very quickly.
    Most long term users say that its ICS update that killed the performance so hopefully you can get one still on the GB (or ask santa for snow and a kk update from sony.)

    • It seems that small phones don't usually get a lot of attention so most of the time, small means low end and crap user experience. Which is a bit of a shame as there are still quite a lot of people wanting petite smartphones that don't put a bulge in your pocket.

  • +1

    We had this same issue of not having enough Android options that were relatively new and decently powerful when my wife wanted to upgrade her current Android but did not want a large screen. After weeks of research and dilly-dally, we finally got the Lumia 520. It's now been 3 months and we haven't regretted that decision one bit.

    • i was asked to research same "under $200" phone budget and a tablet recommend (was for an older person who was a teacher) recommended the Lumia 520 as well as the surface (with 64gb) with touch keyboard. harvey norman $176 for the lumia and $392 for 64gb surface incl keyboard. 2 months later she is very very happy.

      i've also read the lumia and their line in general have an alternative mapping solution (russian?) that means navigation and gps is quicker and more accurate… the Lumia 520 is platform independent best phone under $200 in Australia… seems everyone that picks one up is happy. (if only there was an equivalent of parallels 9 that would enable virtualised o/s for smartphones i.e. win 8 +/or ios7 and 4.4 kitkat!)

      seems the lumia 520 is also 512mb ram and the new lumia 525 when out in future will have 1gb ram. but good sign if that hasn't been noticed as a significant impediment to use.
      http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/nokia-lumia-525-budget-…
      Nokia Lumia 525 key specifications

      4-inch WVGA (480x800) IPS LCD display
      1GHz dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor
      1GB of RAM
      8GB inbuilt storage, expandable up to 64GB via microSD card
      5-megapixel rear camera
      Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, A-GPS, A-GLONASS 3G
      Windows Phone 8 with Lumia Black
      1430mAh

      Seems MicrosoftStore in USA had the Lumia 520 down to $49 during #BlackFriday sales then back to $59.95 then sold out. For outright deal, that's dope and shows how we get f&*d downunder. Does seem to have right networks to use here though with a possible shipito.com redirect forwarding address could be a damn cheap phone if there is stock.

      http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Nokia-Lu…
      Platform
      Windows Phone 8
      Processor
      Qualcomm Snapdragon S4, dual-core 1 GHz
      Memory1
      RAM: 512 MB, mass memory: 8 GB
      Networks
      WCDMA network: 900 MHz, 2100 MHz..WCDMA max data speed DL: HSDPA - 21.1 Mbps ..WCDMA max data speed UL: HSUPA - 5.76 Mbps ..GSM network: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz..GSM max data speed DL: EGPRS 236.8 kbps ..GSM max data speed UL: EGPRS 236.8 kbps2

  • +1

    Some Dick Smith still have Huawei P1. The tag price is 199.00. But you can bargain it to around 180.00. Maybe you can also buy a Dick Smith's 220 gift card at 200.00 to make this deal to 165.00.

    VERY GOOD PHONE:
    960x540 resolution
    Dual core 1.5G processor
    8MP camera
    1G ram

    Although it's 4.3" display, but its 7.7mm thick and very narrow trim design make it much more easier one hand control than a 4" mobile.

    Also it's made luxury outlook and quality built.

    • Got one for the parents - very fast and battery life adequate (just turn off location reporting etc per normal). "Luxury and quality built"? Wouldn't go that far lol.. But v good value fpr money.

  • -6

    you fail, a phone less than $200 is going to be bad, pay the extra and get a nexus 5 ($400)

    • +1

      He's upgrading from a phone with a single core processor. He could pay $100 for a Huawei and think it's amazing in comparison

    • +1

      laurence, I think it is a bit naive to make a statement like that without understanding what the OP's requirements are. And, judging from the all the comments above, there definitely are good phones in the market that fall within the OP's budget. Please understand that not everybody needs the latest and the greatest.

      • -6

        i didn't read anyone else's comments, just stated my opinion.. no need to be butthurt

  • +1

    You could probably pick up a Nexus 4 somewhere for that price.

    • yeah i forgot about that… probably a good option for a little bit extra

  • Under $200, you can buy kogan Agora although they are 5". I have not used kogan's phone but their specification looks good. 5", 8GB, quadcore 1.2 GHz, 8 mpx camera @$200.

    https://m.kogan.com/au/shop/phones/

  • 3.5" SONY Xperia-E-C1504(BLK850) Black MSM7227A 1.0Ghz/3.5"HVGA/766M+2054M/3.2MP Camera/BT3/Jelly Bean
    $99 at MSY

  • Thanks everyone for the input so far! The consensus (and my preferences) seem to be leaning toward the following phones. I have some more thoughts about each of them:

    1) Nokia Lumia 520 — Ruled out, as I would like an Android phone
    2) Moto G — via Amazon the converted prices with delivery work out to about AUD $230 for 8GB or AUD $270 for 16GB. That's pricey, but I'm still tempted… Anyone got a better price on it?
    3) Razr M — this ozbargain has it for AUD $269 but the comments say it was selling for $179 a while back — Anyone got a link to a better deal on it?
    4) Nexus 4 — lots of mentions, but no links to deals. I didn't have much luck on Gumtree. Anyone?

    Thanks again :)
    Roy

    • You wont find Nexus 4 new anymore.. plenty for sale used though.

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