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  IJustKnowStuff on 16/12/2013 - 10:46

  My work filter stops me looking at the site due to it being in the "Illegal Drugs" category.

  Smooth

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  JeBs on 16/12/2013 - 11:03

  -5

  So you're saying don't leave a negative rating if the product does not to do what it claims to? Tried this type of unit in a demonstration at a shopping centre. Could hardly feel a thing. Complete waste of money in my opinion. Furthermore, the product works by emitting electrical pulses into certain regions of the body. Do you not think it's important to place a warning on the product description, stating this could be harmful for those with heart conditions (because the electrical pulses could interfere with heart rhythms, or those using a pace maker). Not even a mention to seek medical advice prior to use. Appalling.

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    Store Repca257 @ Chemist Australia on 16/12/2013 - 11:08

    +3

    This is a TGA registered product - it has proven to work and 10s of 1000's of people find Tens devices very beneficial for pain etc. If this product is not suitable for you, then why leave a negative?

    We have just sold 25 units in less than 30 mins, so there are plenty of people who find this a bargain.

    Negative, undeserved comments like yours, just scare away retailers to discount and post bargains in future.

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      JeBs on 16/12/2013 - 11:42

      -1

      Needless to say, you have associates at work here to negate my valid comment. I don't believe you've sold any, but if anyone buys it will be based on misleading facts presents by you. And if the TGA presumably deem your device safe, then they will be held to account as well. Let's see what Fair Trading has to say about your description then.

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      uncyspam on 16/12/2013 - 13:11

      TGA approval doesnt PROVE anything. It merely shows that it hasn't been proven to hurt you, and that it hasn't been proven NOT to work.

      And seeing as I can't find your product on the ARTG, I'm doubtful on that claim too.

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  snook on 16/12/2013 - 11:06

  +1

  I bought one of these in the US in 2009 for $90 and they're still using comic sans! A very simple device and still working. My take on this is that we're being had and you can get it much cheaper offshore and this price is NOT a deal. You charge them via USB in your computer. Irrelevant where it comes from.

  Retail Price $347.00
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  This is one of those items sold in a games arcade, like the electronic cigarette. Goes something like this:
  Try it.
  Ok, (i'm bored) I will.
  Yeah it's ok. Feels nice. How much?
  Just $180
  Nah, I don't think so.
  Ok, for you, today only, $130
  Still no. Too much money.
  Ok, well listen, it's late in the day and I want to go home and my boss isn't here. $100 and I'll throw in this and this and this …
  I'll give you $90
  Ok.

  So I imagine they cost like $20-$30

  Yeah, no need to neg it if you don't like the product itself. They are good for people who have chronic pain and muscle spasms. The simplest explanation is that muscles have memory and will continue to do the same things that cause pain. These devices work to activate muscles in different ways by turning other muscles on and hopefully relieving pain in those that are overworked. You couldn't use something like this if you didn't know what you were doing and most times, they are recommended to you by medical professionals who would know your personal circumstances.

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    jong on 16/12/2013 - 11:41

    +1

    The simplest explanation is that…

    …it tenses muscles (including ones you don't have conscious control over), and then allows them to relax. If you have tense muscles, it can help them relax, either by tensing them more (which they often respond to by relaxing) or by simply exercising them until they run out of energy. It won't fix whatever caused them to lock up in the first place, like a back injury.

    Price seems very high for a two-channel TENS unit with a couple of spare pads. 12 modes sounds impressive, but it's just how often it switches the power on and off. I'd see what your local chemist has to offer, before buying.

    If this thing's TGA-approved (there's no TGA number on the page), that may only mean it's safe (in a "probably won't electrocute you" sense) and not that it does anything medically provable. There's no medical claims being made on the page that sells it, which is usually a bad sign.

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    JeBs on 16/12/2013 - 11:46

    I know many people that have tried these and thrown them in the bin - because they did not make a difference at all. Where is the -reputable - scientific evidence for positive difference these things make? I would say these devices are akin to buying magnetic jewellery and the like, for alleviating pain.

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      snook on 16/12/2013 - 12:01

      Horses for courses. I went to a physio who used one so I knew how it worked and what to do with it. It's not the be-all of pain management, just another tool.

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        troyww on 16/12/2013 - 12:45

        +1

        Like any quackery . You keep trying until you find something that works for you .

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  Secha75 on 16/12/2013 - 11:45

  +1

  I used a (rented) Tens machine to help me get through labour without meds, and I can tell you it made a massive difference. I wasn't able to use it constantly due to machines that they had me hooked up to half the time, but when I was allowed to use it, it was such a relief. Does it negate all pain? No. Hard to explain but it's like it gives the brain a distraction from the pain, so your focus goes elsewhere. I consulted several doctors before using, and midwives as well, and all agreed it was perfectly safe (for me). I wouldn't just write it off after a shopping centre demo. It got me through a 72hr induced labour. That being said, I'm not saying it's for everybody. But they can be rented online to try before you buy.

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  Store Repca257 @ Chemist Australia on 16/12/2013 - 11:59

  +1

  Hi Guys

  Unfortunately, we have sold out of our initial 50 units at the promo price.

  JeBs, looking at your profile, you leave NEGS quite frequently. Chill….

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    Jaxr on 16/12/2013 - 13:17

    The dude just exists to make an OP feel bad. deals with 500+ and 1- from JeBs.

    That behavior would sit better if there were a few more deals posted up by this character.

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  Rayve on 16/12/2013 - 12:10

  TENS machines have little proven efficacy. A meta-analysis of randomised clinical trials published in the British Medical Journal found no benefit of real TENS machines over placebo machines.

  They do remain quite widespread in clinical care though. That of course does not mean they work.

  And to those 'complaining' about Jebs comments his request for REAL evidence, not anecdotes, may not have been presented in the most 'user friendly' manner but his concerns about quackery is quite valid. Devices like these may not actively harm people but they may prevent them from pursuing actual PROVEN (you know with SCIENCE(c)(tm)) treatments which would be more beneficial.

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    SirNed on 16/12/2013 - 12:39

    OK I am curious, How can you test one of these against a placebo. When you are hooked up to it is sends little burst of electricity through your muscle which makes it contract and release. Hook up placebo one and am pretty sure you would notice the lack of muscle contraction.

    I don't care about the machines I am just curious how they did the test

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      Rayve on 16/12/2013 - 12:58

      I believe one method used was to alter the TENS machine for use as a placebo by changing the duration of electrical stimulation. Since many patients using TENS machines report that they gradually become unaware of the current over time they changed the machine so that it slowly decreases the actual current given over a minute or so, simulating the 'normal' inability to feel the TENS but actually stopping the current during the vast majority of the 'treatment'.

      By making those administering the 'treatment' unaware of which machines were the working ones proper double-blind study was possible.

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  WT on 16/12/2013 - 12:49

  How does this compare to the one bruce lee uses? His was like doing 200 push ups 30 years ago.

  I had something similar when my sciatica was playing up. Tried every setting, even the highest where I would nearly crunch on every pulse. Didn't really help.

  A friend of mine had one when we were 15, put it on his junk. He cried, not sure from the pain or cos his pecker didn't get any bigger.

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  Jaxr on 16/12/2013 - 13:01

  Definatly contracts the muscles. Probably not as good as weightbearing exercise but have seen definate results where that exercise impractical such as arthritis sufferers or use while travelling.