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WD Red 4TB NAS HDD $195 USD (~ $217 AUD) Delivered [Amazon]

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Western Digital Red 4TB NAS HDD for $180 + $15 USD Delivered ~ $217 AUD.

Note this is a NAS drive so it is more expensive than normal 4TB hard drives due to differences in hardware level error handling.

Cheapest on StaticIce seems to be $237 ex credit card surcharges.

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  • +5 votes

    I only have one problem with this.

    Warranty is my biggest concern. WD have no office in Australia and its not like you can simply return it without cost back to amazon.

    It comes down to is $20 really worth saving compared to buying it here and being covered?

    Great price but is it enough to jump on. For me personally no, but still cheap.

    • +4 votes

      WD warranties in Australia goes back to singapore regardless of where you buy it from. You can try returning it to stores if you bought it locally, but depending on how old and which store, they might just take the same amount of time. Possibly cheaper since you don't have to pay for postage to singapore.

      • +2 votes

        Time has nothing to do with it..

        Its the cost and hassle of sending it back overseas, dealing with the post office etc.

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        Do you know if WD have global warranty?

        Companies can identify were a product was purchased based on the serial number

    • +2 votes

      WD not having a warranty office in australia is a sick joke that has been continuing for FAR too long. I hope they read this and fix it.

    • +1 vote

      +1

      Not a big enough saving to take the risk either. Knocks and movement are one of HD worse enemies. This means more shipping is just going to increase the failure rate.

      The 4TB are also bad value. $/TB local 3TB comes in at better or equal value compared to tbe 4TB

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        What is the failure rate?

        • +1 vote

          Really hard to say as the only people that really know are the manufacturers. This article gives us some insight to different brands but not models. It's probable that the reds are more reliable but that's speculation on my behalf

          From personal experience I agree Seagates fail much more than WD.

          I also stress test my HD when I first get them. Any bad sectors they go straight back. All 4 of my 3TB reds have had no issues

          edit
          the bigger the hard drive gets they get more platters they have. More platters = more moving parts = higher chance of failure.

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          the bigger the hard drive gets

          the more advanced the manufacturing technology gets, which reduces the chance of failure…

          so overall, it evens itself out…

          i'd be interested to see a graph of average failure rates of hard disks over the years. my guess is that it's been reducing, even though capacity is increasing…

      • +1 vote

        Agreed, this is not a special price. I bought a pair of these at the beginning of January - same price then as now. And with local suppliers, you'll get faster delivery - buy local.

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      +1 to you for this comment.

      I had a WD 1TB green that needed RMA and the shipping cost to the WD warranty centre in Singapore was $28. Total ripoff seeing as the drive itself is probably worth only a handful of $ more.

      Stopped buying WD that year and haven't even considered buying one again. Not until they open an RMA centre in Australia.

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        Just buy from a local store like istore (in Melbourne) that honor the new consumer code and they deal with any warranty issues for the full warranty period. Seagate is just as bad as WD in terms of this policy so might as well go with the better quality drives (WD Reds)

        I agree though.. total joke these companies can't bother to get representation or have half decent warranty policies or procedures.

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    Buying here doesn't necessarily mean the store will take it back no questions asked though?

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    I recently went through a HD warranty. Not sure whether it is all the same, it was Seagate.

    Where all i had to do was to type in the SN in their online system, then i got the warranty info. Luckily it was still in the warranty, then i made a claim through the system and got a label for sending it to somewhere in South East Asia, it could be Malaysia if i remember correctly. Then i called the Seagate Australian help online and they actually sent a courier to my home and picked it up. Then about 2 weeks after that i received a new replacement HD sent from Malaysia.

    There was no retailer involved nor an original invoice was asked.

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      Seagate has the highest failure rate compared to Western Digital and Hitachi, like as high as 20% difference.

      • +2 votes

        If you go beyond the Backblaze results and add behardware/hardware.fr's component return rate articles to the data mix (these are their most recent figures - article hasn't been translated yet for the English site), the picture becomes less clear. Both sources have their flaws, but if Seagate were as big an outlier in the broader market as they were for Backblaze, you'd think there'd be more of a reflection of it in behardware's figures.

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        I've had all 4 of my external Seagate hard drives fail on me in the last 4 years at some point and need an RMA. I always get tempted by the lower prices and then always end up regretting it. Never again… WD all the way from now on

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      Seagates warranty procedure is very different (and much better than) WD's

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        ah no its not.. says someone that just had 2 almost new 2TB drives die due to their ongoing firmware bugs…

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      Seagate have a company here they have Australians ship to. Its based in Sydney. They are not Seagate but im guessing they did a deal with them as ive returned countless seagate hard drives.

  • +1 vote

    "due to differences in hardware level error handling"

    I'll bet that's absolute rubbish. I'd wager reds are the same as green drives but have different firmware. Why? Because if you go back about 5 years all WD drives worked just fine in RAID. WD then tried to create and sell a new line of "RAID" drives at stupidly high price premiums. So that they could justify the price premium of the "RAID" drives WD changed the firmware on all new shipments of green drives so that the green drives dropped out once in a while. Therefore anyone using the greens would randomly have their raid array destroyed.

    WD make physically reliable drives, but they implement poor customer practices (unreasonable limitations set by firmware & poor australian RMA procedures).

    Seagate by comparison are the opposite: poorer drives, better service.

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      Reds are definitely noisier than greens. I've got both.

    • +1 vote

      WD changed the firmware on all new shipments of green drives so that the green drives dropped out once in a while.

      I doubt that very much as lawyers of customers would have a field day…

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        Hardly. It was only on new shipments. The product info was changed, and that was that. Customers didn't have a leg to stand on.

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    These are good for CCTV DVRs.

    • +1 vote

      that's what they're designed for… running 24/7…

      mine have been running non-stop for well over a year now…

      The also run very cool. I have 2 in my NAS and one is currently 29C and the other 30C

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        No cooler than Seagate
        /dev/sdc: ST3000VN000-1H4167: 44°C
        /dev/sdd: ST3000VN000-1H4167: 45°C
        /dev/sde: ST3000VN000-1H4167: 45°C
        /dev/sdf: ST3000VN000-1H4167: 44°C
        /dev/sdg: ST3000VN000-1H4167: 43°C
        /dev/sdh: ST3000VN000-1H4167: 44°C
        /dev/sdi: ST3000VN000-1H4167: 45°C
        /dev/sdj: ST3000VN000-1H4167: 44°C
        /dev/sdk: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 46°C
        /dev/sdl: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 48°C
        /dev/sdm: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 47°C
        /dev/sdn: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 47°C
        /dev/sdo: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 46°C
        /dev/sdp: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 47°C
        /dev/sdq: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 47°C
        /dev/sdr: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 46°C
        /dev/sds: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 43°C
        /dev/sdt: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 43°C
        /dev/sdu: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 44°C
        /dev/sdv: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 44°C
        /dev/sdw: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 44°C
        /dev/sdx: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 45°C
        /dev/sdy: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 45°C
        /dev/sdz: WDC WD30EFRX-68AX9N0: 44°C

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          No cooler than Seagate

          WD is 30% cooler by your figures…

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          30%? How do you figure?
          Seagate average: 44.25°C
          WD average: 45.4°C

          Seagate median: 44°C
          WD median: 45.5°C

      • +1 vote

        +1 my current temps are 25 25 27 and 30. All drives are spun up

        Can't say I have ever seen them go over mid 30s. Definitely never seen them hit the 40s

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        seriously, I have few Seagate, WD, Hitachi(IBM) drives running 24/7

        all are green model or 7200rpm(hitachi), they have been fine & without any problem for few years

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    JUST POSTED - now $219 in country at ITESTATE, why buy overseas?