The price drop is back. The only way to get a better price is the external is sometimes 10usd less.
Paying in USD on Amazon, through 28 Degrees equates to $160.17 AUD delivered.
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If you can, the WD Red is 'vastly' superior, and only $20 more expensive than this. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EHBERSE/ref=ox_sc_act_ti…
The WD RED is $174.99 plus postage. This deal is $150.66 delivered.
Please explain what makes it vastly superior
Is the 4TB model more reliable than the 3TB model? Backblaze hasn't had much luck with the 3TB model. My own 3TB model died after a few months too.
the WD Red is 'vastly' superior
This Seagate is a 5900RPM, whereas the Red is 5400RPM and slower. The Barracuda beats it in just about every benchmark.
The warranty period for both is 3 years.
Agree with the above. A bit more research shows these NAS drives are optimised for power consumption and firmware compatibility with NAS enclosures rather than performance.
See:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/295124-32-drives-normal
Yeah, the Red drives aren't designed for performance, they're designed for greater reliability. Better vibration tolerance, higher MTBF, vibration reduction, and raid-specific features.
Where does it say the ST4000DM000 comes with a 3-year warranty? The Red has 3 years, but the ST4000DM000 looks to be only 1 or 2 years. Can you claim warranty for overseas-purchased drives anyway?
Yeah, no idea why anyone would compare these NAS drives (read: WD Greens with tweaked firmware) to a run-of-the-mil desktop HDD. Of course the Barracuda's going to be faster.
These arn't the NAS drives from this deal-
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/150408
Probably better off paying a bit extra for the NAS drives, I think they come with a 3 year warranty instead of the 1 year that these come with?
Can Nas drives be put into an external drive enclosure or desktop computer or are they just specifically for use with a Nas?
They (RED Drives) can be put in an external drive enclosure, desktop computer (raid or non-raid), NAS, whatever… they are more robust and can tolerate 24/7 operation (they are built for that sole purpose).
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=810
and/or…
Ok great thanks for the response!
Seems WD's marketing department is working for some people..
Only their Red drives on the consumer end have TLER, which depending on your RAID setup, could be important. So there's that…
I misread this as "bare back"
I must have Pattaya on the mind….
you'll feel like you've been barebacked when you lose 4tb of data
155 aud landed each if you buy 4… Hmmm not bad…
OK, with warranty, can drives purchased from the US be returned to Seagate's RMA address in Sydney?
If not then RMA will be pretty damn expensive…
I have one drive from Amazon used in a raidz array. If there are any issues I will RMA locally and cause a shit fight if the warranty is not honoured. Not concerned at all.
How would you fight it? What reasoning would you use?
I had one drive (a 2TB portable) go belly up and amazon paid for return shipping and sent a new one without a quibble.
I used a Seagate 3TB DM series in 24/7 operation. It developed some smart errors and lost some critical data folders. Have recently switched to WD Red. IMO, Seagate DM and WD Red are intended for entirely different applications and should not be compared as such. Just choose according to what you intend to do with these.
There was a report some time ago from Google on their use of NAS/enterprise drives vs standard desktop drives in their data centres. They found that the reliability of the NAS drives was worse than standard drives.
I've never used dedicated drives in my own NAS units and haven't had any issues. I've currently been using 8 x 4Tb Seagates removed from external drives for almost a year again with no issues.
My personal views is that its smoke and mirrors. YMMV.
Good luck! I've had a whole ton of drive failures in the past few years and wouldn't trust either. I've had both desktop and enterprise drives fail. What matters to me is the warranty period. Enterprise drives come with 3 or 5 year warranties, desktop drives 1 or 2 years. I treat every drive like it WILL die, so the extra ~$30-40 is effectively me buying a new 3/4TB drive in 3 years time.
I had 4 x 4tb seagate drives die on me losing all data
Next drives won't be seagates
4x4tb and you didn't back up? Unless they died simultaneously, which i find hard to believe unless it was some power surge. in which case, that would not be seagate's fault
Says that I can't send it to my address…
do they have international warranty?