Looks like a decent deal for anyone out there looking for a decent 6TB NAS drives
Description from Site:
Western Digital Red 6 TB NAS Hard Drive 1 to 8-Bay 3.5-inch SATA 6, IntelliPower, 64MB Cache Internal Bare or OEM Drives WD60EFRX
by Western Digital
Cheapest from Staticice seems to be $359
CamelCamelCamel.
Dont see why not… I'm planning on buying bigger drives for the N36L!
Drive interface is the same, so I reckon its a safe bet.
I'm waiting for 8Tb and then buying 4 of them.
Seagate already have 8TB but only in Enterprise test samples. The technology is there so hopefully not too long.
Just waiting for WD mate, not a huge fan of Seagate. I'm sure others prefer different, just personal experiences.
My experience with WD is that they die slowly, once the degradations starts you have time to replace it. On the other hand all the seagates I had issues with, they just stopped working. Of course, I guess there some others have the opposite xp
@UFO : Are you sure that the N36L can see more than 3TB - even with hacked bios?
2 of my drives are 4Tb reds, so yes… Definitely sees and uses drives bigger than specs say. I don't think it'll have dramas reading larger drives.
No hacked bios required.
They've been at this price for awhile, even $296.99 for a fair while.
The WD Green 6TB is even less but doesn't ship to Australia (about $270).
I'm still waiting for the Hitachi 4TB CoolSpin's to drop below $150. I have several drives 4-6TB on my watch list which I check daily.
After more Hitachi's too - though I'm not as frequently checking the pricing as you ;)
It's quite likely that the next Hitachi deal on OzB will be posted by me, I'm checking like a lunatic - CamelCamelCamel needs email/sms price alerts :)
I have two NAS boxes needing populating, I have the drives for 1 but need new drives to copy contents across before both NAS can be used. I will consider other brands for the right price but really have my mind set on Hitachi. My trigger point is <$150 USD which is around $170 AUD delivered.
Maybe I should wait for you to post a deal before buying these then :)
Two of my Seagate 3tb just died on me today (currently copying files across from my NAS, but running out of space on my backup external drives), and was looking to buy replacements. Found those $299 ones and thought price looked good.
In last 2 years, 3 Seagate Barracuda 3TB failed on me on my Synology 1512+. Staying away from Seagates now.
The dreaded 3TB Seagates :(
I've been off Seagate for awhile but lately even WD doesn't inspire confidence with their LCC parking issue. Supposed to only happen on Green drives but reported to happen on many Reds too (in short it wears the drive out prematurely) - there is a manual fix available so WD are still on my radar but well behind Hitachi.
Toshiba are another option (basically rebadged Hitachi's) but only have 7200rpm which is overkill for NAS imo.
This 6TB RED is a pretty good deal, if you need a quick fix it's probably worth considering, but if you can wait I think the Hitachi's are the way to go.
Interestingly, the Hitachi "NAS" drives that have emerged, recently are 7200rpm
I picked one up today.
Upon contemplation, whilst reading this thread - I couldn't help feeling I've paid extra for a tiny bit different firmware. Should have just went with the $119 Toshiba 3TB.
http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2…
You bought a 3TB or 4TB? Either way I'd be happy with your purchase.
The Hitachi NAS (7200rpm) are solid drives. I'm interested in the CoolSpin (5400rpm) which are not rated for NAS but many people are successfully using them for that purpose.
Kind of like the WD RED vs GREEN debate, only without the head parking issues.
The 6TB greens are shipping here now, but are on backorder.
I thought about it a week ago but after currency conversion the slight price difference isn't worth the lack of local warranty IMO, I've read you can get it transferred but sending it to Malaysia or USA is a PITA.
Not to sound like a Hitachi fan boy but I've heard reports of Hitachi overseas drives being honoured under local warranty, yet to confirm if this is true but it certainly is huge peace of mind if true.
Anyhow, good to know 6TB ship here, the points you make are valid ones and one will also need to research LCC parking issue if they want their Green drive to last a few years.
I have 1 Red and 3 Greens in my QNAP and a green has gone down.
Roughly 2-3 years in the NAS.
I've been pretty vocal in the past (annoyingly so to some) about WD's LCC issue. In short WD rate their drives for 300,000 park cycles, their firmware insures the drive parks every 8 seconds (i think) after inactivity. Basically people were reporting their drives showing upto 600,000 in the first 12 months. The problem is, if your WD dies after 6 months and it's LCC count is over 300,000, your warranty is void regardless of the 2-3yr warranty.
I have a WD Blue 2.5" that's been running for a few years with over 960,000 LCC, still alive somehow. Most don't make it that far.
You can change that using WDIDLE3 to change 8 seconds to about 5 minutes, people have reported the drive LCC count dropping to a mere <1000 over 12 months. It's a hassle but seems to work.
@Click_It: It's reasonable for a hard drive to last more than a year, and a statutory warranty can't be excluded by manufacturers demands. (Law > Manufacturer)
With that said, buying local is a great advantage with warranties.
Last time i got a batch of 5 x hitachi's, one of them started getting SMART errors within a couple of weeks of install.
I'd bought the drives from BH photo video in USA, but was able to RMA the drive to Sydney.
Quick/easy process.
US$299.99 + Shipping
Cheapest from Staticice seems to be $359
So how much cheaper is this deal ???
Here comes jv! :)
The one from Staticice is also without shipping.
So, the Amazon one is still cheaper. Let me know if you see a better deal…about to purchase soon :)
So, the Amazon one is still cheaper.
How much cheaper ???
May not be worth forgoing warranty for a few $…
It's probably going to be $330 (max) delivered in $AUD. I haven't checked.
So if saving $30, what you say is probably right, assuming you can pick it up for the $359 locally. If it's $379 delivered then maybe it's food for thought. Especially if buying a few?
EDIT: Damn I've made too many posts on this deal haven't I?… (I love my HDDs) :)
$347.87 AUD at Newegg including express shipping
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8…
Was thinking about buying 2 6tb to replace the 2 3tb red's I have in my 2 bay qnap. But it works out cheaper to buy two more 3tb from amazon, then buy a 4 bay qnap and sell my old qnap. :P
Then I can raid 5 the 4x3tb drives to get 8.1TB of storage rather than the 6tb I'd have with the 6's in a mirror.
comes to AUD 346.88 on the cheapest shipping.
Can confirm 4tbs are recognised in my n36l running a hacked BIOS and unraid. Got a Seagate 4tb as my parity drive atm , as I slowly up the HDDs from 2 to 4 TBs.
I got 2x 4Tb WD reds in my N36L working perfectly, no bios hacks required.
For anyone interested you can pickup 5TB Seagate desktop drives for $215AUD delivered (using amazon conversion rates).
Seagate Expansion USB 3.0 5TB Desktop External Hard Drive (STBV5000100) from Amazon.
With them being sold as an external drive you will obviously need to harvest them from the enclosure which is dead easy. They are cheaper than the bare drives.
I purchased 4 of them recently, the internal drive is the - ST5000DM000.
these are AUD$334.99 with express shipping or AUD$333.92 with standard shipping on newegg
They have a Discount Promo Code 823WKSTG14
Which takes off -AUD$12.88
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8…
Extra savings w/ promo code 823WKSTG14, ends 8/25
dang! I bought 2TB drives for my 4 slots a few years back…..
I'm feeling like that with my 4x3TB :-(
I still have 5 x 2TB Samsung EcoGreens from 2010, but with very little usage on them so I'm going to fill a DS1511+ with them, backed up to a DS1813+ filled (eventually) with 8x4TB.
Similar here. I paid ~$83ea for 6x EcoGreen 2Tb & 6x WD Green 2Tb for 1:1 manual backup. 2nd set just sit in a drawer. It's taken years to gather & organise the finest version of each movie. Not priceless, but the cost in man-hours is nuts.
Since 12Tb became tiny for a HD collection, I'm forever 2nd-guessing the 1:1 backup… but that's because I haven't had a HDD (of mine) fail in 14 years. That, and the wasty & clunky system of what 'letters' go on each disk. AB CDE FGHIJ etc.
RAID5, you say? Ergh. Not a backup, and complicates things. I just need to stick to the plan: Wait for a good price & just pay.
Next purchase: 6x4Tb or 5x5Tb or 4x6Tb
I use a 1:1 backup system. I have everything stored on my server and then it back's up daily to a NAS (well 2 x 4 bay nas's actually). Just the same size drive in my sever mirrored in the NAS (JBOD mode).
IMO RAID is actually just complicating things and makes possible recovery an issue in the case of an array collapse or if the controller dies or whatever.
If one of my drives dies i just backup from the mirrored drive. In saying that I haven't had a drive of mine die in the last 4 years.
Only thing that would wipe out my media is a fire. But then if that happened i think my ISO collection would be the least of my concerns.
Does anyone know if 6TB drives are supported in the N40L?