A mate went on a first date with a foodie who ordered a tonne of dishes, which they only ended up eating around 30% of. Since he was an Ozbargainer AND was paying, he kept on thinking whether he should ask for a doggy bag but eventually didn't.
I told him he should have since the two of them were so different it was unlikely to progress to a second date. They never went on a second date.
What would you have done?
Unless you're paying for it
You're always paying for it
Thackery, Dr Thackery.
Sex followed by eating the leftovers from a good meal beats just sex any day. (If the date/sex was good then eating the leftovers together is even better).
He should have asked her do you want to take any of this home. She might have said yes, or you take some too. Either way less waste.
I think it was inconsiderate of her to order so much knowing he was paying. Unless he promised before to pay for everything.
"What would you have done?"
As it became clear that 'the foodie' was ordering way more than she had any intention of eating, I would have said I was just going to duck out the front to make a quick call, then jumped on the first tram to anywhere else.
That woulda' learned the silly wasteful wench.
It's no better than being a glutton, ordering more than what you can eat and then letting the rest go into the trash.
What I've done though is say
"Man, this food was delicious! You picked some pretty good dishes, you don't mind if I take away the leftovers so I can have it for lunch at work tomorrow". Can't say no to that, and you wouldn't look bad either.
When it became apparent that the parasitefoodie was ordering gluttonously, I would've joined in the fun by ordering a few of the most expensive dishes "for them". Being a clumsy klutz, I might accidentally spill some food on my clothes and duck out to the washrooms to clean the stain. Upon receiving an important call while in the washrooms, I continue it outside for the benefit of the other patrons. The call is so engaging that I forget that I'm being scammedon a date and make my way home.
Hopefully that would deal out some justice to the "foodie" and save the next chump from being scammed.
Doesn't this become theft and they will have you on the CCTV which could lead to prosecution if she doesn't pay the bill?
Assuming that the couple is a male and female:
Why should the male be responsible for the bill?
In my example change the word "ordering" to "recommending". The "foodie" is the one ordering the majority of the total and they should be responsible for at least the majority of the bill. You could even get yourself the exact change for what you personally ordered and hand it with a note to the wait staff.
@Scrooge McDuck: Sounds like it would come down to hearsay between the two parties and the waiter(witness) who would have been taking the order and know full well who ordered what. Ordering and paying are two completely separate activities and the order-er is quite often not the payer so difficult to pin the liability.
Ordering and paying are two completely separate activities and the order-er is quite often not the payer so difficult to pin the liability.
So what? The orderer is liable. The payer only becomes so after the fact.
Should have jumped on the first CITY CIRCLE tram!
Or jumped off if they were on the Tramcar restaurant.
free tram travel in the cbd
Oh yeah still living in the past! lol
He should have made her pay half. That might stop her from being so wasteful in future. As an aside, a lot of foodie places now have rules against doggie bags…they're afraid of getting sued.
"As an aside, a lot of foodie places now have rules against doggie bags…they're afraid of getting sued."
Has there already been an OzB thread discussing this issue? If not I might start one, as I’d be interested in hearing about the experiences of others in this regard.
About 12 years ago in Melbourne there was a brief 'phase' where a lot of joints started refusing to pack the leftovers into a container-to-go, with most evidently instructing their wait-staff to say that there had been a new law/regulation passed forbidding them from doing so! Invariably/inevitably it emerged rather rapidly that this was complete BS, and most places did a pretty rapid about-face and recommenced boxing-up the leftovers to go, on request.
Re more recent times, I've been at about 15 lunches/dinners in the last year (in Melbourne) where we've requested that the leftovers be boxed to go, and not one has refused to do it. We do not go to any up-market joints though, only mid-level and low-end, so that might have something to do with it.
I’d be very interested in hearing about the experiences of others in this respect (and any thoughts on the legalities of refusing to box-up the leftovers, etc.). So unless there’s already been a thread about this (I couldn't locate one via a few searches), I reckon I’ll start one.
Also not one problem here
Lazy Moes in Vic specifically says on their pathetic menu (I think) that taking home food is prohibited. Funny that they serve the most MASSIVE meals - its such a blatant waste. Cant stand that place …
I googled Lazy Moe's.. Wanna move to Melbourne
That would have been a terrible situation… Like gnarlyknuckles said above, I would've hightailed it out of there.
I would have left once she made her selection from the menu, and it became apparent that she was out of her mind.
If only the Op had the hypnotic abilities of Kenny Craig (from Little Britain) on his dinner date as seen in this clip: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtl5i4_kenny-craig-hypnotis…
Not on the first date.. otherwise he would've been known as 'the guy who asked for a doggy bag'
Who would honestly care when she would be known as 'that girl who ordered twenty dishes and only ate a bite of each'..
the fact that the other half was a "foodie" is warning to keep away.
seriously, foodie is a thing?!
"seriously, foodie is a thing?!"
Based on this OP's post, it means:
'One who is happy to waste both food and money, in the one fell swoop'!
Sounds like my wife
Is that the opposite of ozbargainer
I agree - could someone possibly be more pretentious than declaring themselves a 'foodie'?!!
I would have noped out of there asap regardless of her other 'attributes'.
I always ask for a doggie bag when there are leftovers. But then again, it is actually for my dogs..
He went to a restaurant without a doggy bag?.
He should've spoken up and gone with the doggy bag. Regardless of whether there was going to be a second date or not, his conscience was telling him not to waste all the food… he knows it shouldn't have been wasted… and yet he silenced himself purely to avoid potentially embarrassing himself in front of some greedy woman.
Listen to your instinct. If it's important to you and you know it's ethically better, then screw what the other person might think.
In this case, the other person / the woman was certainly no better and in no position to judge.
Seriously, if 'foodies' know they're wanting to sample a lot on the menu, why don't they ask for half serves of everything? I know foodies, but I don't know any of them that bother to do that. They happily order full serves of everything and often let most of it go to waste once they've had their little bites of each dish. Doesn't take much effort to put some forethought into it..
evidently you are not aware of what brain was in control :P
I usually find your opinions on stuff interesting and/or informative and/or thought-provoking waters, and I am particularly interested-in / want-clarification-on what you mean by:
"… why don't they ask for half serves of everything? I know foodies, but I don't know any of them that bother to do that."
I'm struggling to fathom the concept. Do you mean they should tell the waiter they'll pay the full price for each dish but only want half of it to be supplied (to negate waste), or do you mean they should tell the waiter to bring half of each dish, on the understanding that they'll pay half the cost of each dish? Or do you mean something else? I'm not trying to be a DH here (not in this particular thread I mean; obviously I very often I AM trying to be a DH in other threads on this site), I'm genuinely curious as to what you meant by 'ask[ing] for half serves of everything'.
she means like half/half pizza (depending on the dish) you don't have to have a whole pizza in one type, you don't always have to have a full serve of a dish either…
Just about the only example it actually could work for is pizza; which is not the type of 'foodie' food we're talking about. Almost no restaurant is going to let you order half of two dishes for the price of one.
"For entree I'll have half a ceasar salad and half a prawn cocktail, and for main course I'll have half a grilled snapper, and half a lasagne"…
Yeah, right.
You'd be amazed at what you can get, if you simply ask, sometimes people will say no, sometimes they can be rather accomodating…
If you ask, places often will do either 'entree' size mains for you, or half size mains, etc etc. Especially when you let them know you're ordering a lot to sample an array from the menu.
Yes, some places will knock you back and say no, other places will simply be unable to do it because of the style of meals they offer (burgers, pizzas, whole fish, whole anything like that etc.. use your common sense here).. while others will be very accommodating as Tal_Shiar said. You would be surprised what you'd get if you simply asked. Just as much as you don't want to waste food… a lot of decent eateries/restaurants similarly share the same ethics and would rather serve up half dishes than full serves, knowing half will go into the bin. Any respectable place would do it. But always ask, never expect.
In some places, they will allow you to take away leftovers BUT you have to box/ bag the food yourself with the box/ bag they'll give you. I believe the reason for this is 1. They discourage the act next time, 2. They avoid scum bags who will put foreign objects in the food once at home and claim it's the resto at fault, 3. Should food poisoning occur due to the food not being consumed in time, resto is not liable
FYI, Japan has similar practice.
Definitely takeaway the extras. I enjoy having a variety when eating out and always ask to pack the extras for lunch the next day. So I'll gladly say, "oh yay I don't have to prepare lunch for tomorrow!"
Agree with the pp saying ditch her too. It's like dating people who are rude to waitstaff- feel like smacking them.
What's the problem with asking for takeaway containers? I've never thought it to be rude, and really wouldn't care if it's a first date or not. In fact, I would have thought that getting whatever is leftover as takeaway would be a very common practice for anyone, male or female.
The only situation that would possibly prevent me from getting leftovers takeaway would be if we were going out afterwards. I wouldn't really want to be walking around town, going from bar to bar or whatever with takeaway all night.
However it makes me wonder how you actually order at a restaurant for two, and have 70% of what you ordered left. For most, surely you would order 2 mains, and maybe 2 entree, and that would be perfect for most. Did you order 6 mains for variety?
Depending on the place, it isn't always so cut and dried… Which is of course why people can ask the wait-staff "is this enough for x people?"
I have only once been screwed over by a place trying to push up the order size for the money… Most places don't want you to waste the food either :)
This woman is a genius! Go on first dates to expensive places and order up, try one bite of everything and let someone else pay. Im exaggerating but its entirely possible to pull off free meals like this.
A genius? The woman is an idiot, and if you think she is a genius, you are also an idiot.
Not this girl. She works for the restaurant on commission. Different partner every second night.
Ah the old tea ceremony con.
If she did this just to try it out she is a sample abuser.
You mean she is a modern feminist?
postmodern deconstructive feminist
this is why you don't go to dinner on the first date! i would ask her out for a coffee for first date, and that will give you an idea of things to come, although it might be mute if there was never going to be a second date!
"…although it might be mute"
Erm… what?
sorry, meant to type moot! bit too much straya brew…hic..
moot is kill?
Yes.
Over a coffee, so what is your views on food wastage, and ordering
it's a pity good food goes to waste when so many go hungry, which is why i support Ozharvest, but for this discussion i'm ok with it as long as you don't get someone else to pay for it! going halves is not uncommon for first dates, if your date really is a glutton or a very particular eater i.e picks two tablespoons of food off a plate and throws the rest away, well, call it a life lesson, good to find out on first date and not when you are about to marry her!
There's always the possibilty she was looking for something a bit more stable, and someone who would see the food go to waste when there was a perfectly good option to save it wasn't someone she would be happy sharing finances with. I would have asked for a doggy bag - the date would be with me, not just some plastic front wanting a leg-over..
Or maybe the guy was a victim of gold digging.
OP, how long have they been together? If this was the first date, it's not setting a very good precedent…
If she asks for a doggie bag, i would marry her on the spot!
If she asks for half at the end of the evening i would marry her on the spot!
If she insisted on paying half, or for the movies i would marry her on the spot!
But then if she lets me to to third base i would…. well you get it now
This is why you are no doubt single…
Do you have a doggie?
Before a date with a foodie, tell your mates (or ozb members) about it so they prepare, half an hour before you finish date send sms to all who are hungry to take over table!! As the oldies used to say, one mans trash is another mans treasure
very selfish people out there. i would have flicked the question out to her and ask why?
Extremely rude behaviour on her behalf, in my opinion….
Did he meet her on an online dating website? Some women live off free meals from suckers on dating websites. That's so cheap of her!
Whats a "foodie" anyway? She likes restaurant meals? Who doesnt? Suss on that term, doubt it means anything.
Me, I would be very wary of a girl who was so cavalier with another's money but as a horny young man would no doubt instantly forgive for sex.
I have paid for my share of first dates in my time and I would certainly note it as potential user/princess type behavior. In all honesty though, if I got a root or any kind of sex I would be happy enough with the deal although I would make the next date a picnic or home cooked meal so she cant go nuts on the menu and carefully observe.
"a root or any kind of sex"
I must be very sheltered
I am just being honest.
I would be charming and do my best to act the nice guy, the conversationalist, but if I was there on a first date, I would be locked on to getting some. Its a date not a church meeting after all.
why do you guys call it doggie bag.. just call it a takeaway container ffs
Traditional and a euphemism of sorts; "it's not for me, its for my puppy"
I.E. although everyone knows I will eat it later, we are all pretending I am not the slightest bit cheap and I only want this food as a snack for my dog.
Would I ask for a doggy bag? Never. Would I go out with someone that considers themselves a 'foodie'? Never.
A 'foodie' who didn't even finish all of her food? Sounds like twice the pretension to me.
Tell your mate he might have dodged a bullet by not having to have had a second date which might have progressed into something more serious.
Why is it an issue?
Firstly, it is not a good idea to judge a person based on one incident/issue. Its the whole package that matters rather than one or two issues. If she got other good qualities (especially if she is hot!), this issue hardly matters.
Secondly, asking for the doggy bag: Going for a first date is like going for a job interview. You want to blow your good side and subdue the bad side. Its a game. Things like using coupons on the first date, asking for taking away the left overs is not bad, but other person may not like it and hence you dont want to do that until you are sure she also thinks the same. If the saving is the whole purpose, why bother going for a dinner? you might as well pick up something from Mcdonalds!
PS:For spell checkers/grammar police in advance: Sorry for my bad english!
A "foodie" who wastes food is a bad human being. Actually, a "foodie" is a big fat phoney.
That's not a foodie. I'm a foodie and I married a foodie. We don't waste good food while cooking or going out to restaurants.
Th op found a cheapskate pure and simple.
'Excuse me waiter, I would like to box up the foam to take home later'
Did she take several photos on each dish, and mention her foodie blog?
I would have asked for doggie
First mistake was taking a girl to dinner on a first date.
Second mistake was letting her order all that food.
Third was not taking it home. I would have. I wouldn't have gotten myself into that situation in the first place, but I would have made no apologies.
Why didn't you just pay for what you ate and nothing more? What's she gonna do?
Sexual equality supports us guys too.
damn right!!
Maybe there was only one date because she wanted to take the food away..
Haha I am sure this happened to a "mate" of yours
Lets stuff ourselves silly, then you get home.. can't have sex because your ding ding doesn't reach HAHA
If they won't bag up your food for you maybe ask for the money back for the product that you bought that they are going to throw out.
Forget doggie bag. Think of Doggystyle!
Personally, I hate wasting food and only eating around 30% of it?! That's not a little bit of over ordering, that's ordering for a family!
I would have said something when ordering and if she insisted in having so much I would have gotten out of there. She wouldn't be a person I want to be with as a partner or as a friend or to ever share anything with them.
If he didn't envisage getting laid that night, he should have taken the food home. The last thing you want to do, after your walk of shame in the morning is hunt for the doggy bag. On this occasion your mate, missed out on the food and the sex.
Personally i always make it a point to ask the waiter if the food we've ordered will be enough? Majority of them will tell you the truth.
Never in a month of Sundays would we leave food at a restaurant that we had paid premium prices for in the first place. This lady appears to have been extremely greedy in her ordering of so much food - good choice not to see her again. Better luck in your future choices - ( of girlfriends that is )
P.S. Normally we bring back the extra food for our dogs - at least it allivates some of the bill to see them scoffing it down !!
I love my dog, but he'll eat literal garbage. If he chows down on dust-covered, rancid bones with the same gusto as restaurant-quality food, last night's lobster thermidor is still 'wasted' on him.
It is an age old problem. Jack Sprat had the answer:
Jack Sprat could eat no fat,
His wife could eat no lean
And so between the two of them
They licked the platter clean.
I almost never doggy bag myself, but the answer to OP's question depends on the girl. If she's being precious about it, I wouldn't, though I doubt that relationship would go anywhere if she has a problem with him being a serial cheapskate. On the other hand, doggy bagging is just being resourceful if there's enough left and she may appreciate the pragmatism.
Ask for the doggie bag and give the food to the homeless. You'll be doing a good deed.
If this is your plan, Make sure you order plain food. Many homeless dont like spicy foods or seafood.
One answer that hadn't come through.
Call the foodie on her bullshit, insult her for her greed and all that. It's not like the ops friend was getting anywhere.
She just makes me mad!!!
Once when my girlfriend (Now wife) and I had just started dating we were at Hungry Jacks for lunch and they stuffed up my burger so they put the stuffed up burger in aswell and said sorry. Neither of us wanted to seem like pigs so we both denied wanting it and threw it out even though we were both still hungry. To this day we both still regret not eating that Whopper -_- Moral of the story is, is she's worth keeping then she'll want the food as much as you ;)
I'm confused.
How is your moral of the story meant to apply to the OP's friend and his date situation?
They ended up leaving behind all the food. Nobody knows if the woman wanted the leftovers - perhaps she wanted to take them home too, but was also too embarrassed to ask for a doggy bag on a date. We can't go back in time and read her mind. We're just making assumptions based on external behaviours here - just like SHE could assume that the OP's friend didn't want the leftovers either because HE never asked for the rest in a doggy bag, did he? (but we know he wanted to.. she never will)
You and your wife also denied wanting that extra burger and threw it out despite both still being hungry.
But you conclude that because you both secretly wanted it, then she was a keeper for you.
So you're comparing a couple where one person's desires are known, and the other person's desires are not known… to another couple (you and your wife) where the desires of both people were/are known.
I dun geddit.
So, by that logic… potentially… the 'foodie' could still be 'the one' for the OPs friend?? :P
First date? No.
Sex beats getting a bargain any day.