Is it doable for the stereotypical Asian woman to drive from Sydney to Gold Coast?

lizzle on 17/05/2015 - 18:45
Last edited 18/05/2015 - 14:53

Edit: Okay, I've taken your advice into consideration guys. I was pretty keen on the drive up, but I've been thinking about how much more driving experience I could pack into a few months, and it's unlikely that I'll feel much more comfortable driving that long a distance over a long period of time. Plus the costs of having to split the trip into two days could be expensive. SO to minimize risk to myself and others on the road, I've decided not to take the trip (this time). Perhaps in the future. Instead, my sister has been nice enough to make a road trip out of it with her hubby instead, and drive the car up herself to GC, which will be safer for everyone. I'm sure a day will come in the future when I need to/want to make the trip, so all of your advice hasn't gone to waste :) Thanks for all of your opinions!

I'm planning to drive up from Sydney to GC (need to move the car up) around end of September, and just want to know if it's doable for a noob driver.

Some details about me: I haven't got my P's yet (taking the driving test in a couple of weeks) and haven't had a whole lot of driving exp, although I'm sure that'll increase over the next few months once I have my license. I'm in my early 20s, and yes, I am Asian. You can just think of me as the stereotypical poor Asian woman driver.

What I want to know is: is the drive up very different from driving on normal roads? I'm used to the Gold Coast roads, where roads are all pretty wide, traffic doesn't get terribly bad, and most drivers seem to be pretty nice on the roads. Is there anything in particular I should prepare myself for on the drive up? I'm likely to be the sole driver for the whole trip, with one passenger with me.

Thanks in advance for your advice guys :)

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Comments

  • loulou1 on 17/05/2015 - 18:49
    +5

    I do the Brisbane to Sydney and return drive fairly regularly. Make sure you take enough rest breaks. Depending on time of day there can be quite a few trucks about.

    • lizzle on 17/05/2015 - 18:56
      +2

      Thanks for the tip. How early in the day do you usually leave?

      • loulou1 on 17/05/2015 - 19:22
        +7

        Night time is easier driving as the roads are quieter but I would not recommend it for an inexperienced driver. I leave first thing in the morning if not doing the night time drive. It is a long trip to do in one day!

        • Gravy on 17/05/2015 - 20:48
          +8

          Pacific highway has a huge amount of B-Double trucks on it at night time (I heard something like 3000 every night or more although not sure if that is accurate). Also a bunch of kangaroos depending on what time you define as night time. Not sure what time the trucks stop but I think they tend to come through in waves.

        • syousef on 18/05/2015 - 10:59
          +3

          @Gravy:

          Yeah I'm an experienced driver and found the Pacific Highway around Lismore quite uncomfortable to drive on when it was foggy with large trucks bearing down in the early morning.

          Also don't underestimate the Kangaroos. One of those jumping in your path can easily ruin your vehicle and could kill you.

          Do it in the day time. Leave just before dawn. A bit of traffic won't be difficult to deal with.

        • sigh on 18/05/2015 - 22:43

          @syousef: kangaroos are most active around dawn and dusk, its the most common time to move about. However you're most likely to have a run in at night as you normally don't see them untill they enter your headlights.

  • shaybisc on 17/05/2015 - 19:08

    My stretch of the Pacific Highway- mid north coast NSW- is a bloody goat track.

    I hope you are not planning on doing it in one day.

    • lizzle on 17/05/2015 - 19:12
      +1

      I was hoping to be able to make the trip in one day ><
      I have no idea where a mid-way stopover destination would be for the night.

      • donga100 on 17/05/2015 - 19:19
        +20

        It would be really tough to do it in one day as a sole driver. Consider stopping in Coffs Harbour for the night. It's almost exactly in the middle, has plenty of accommodation options and is a nice place to see in general if you have not been there before.

        • lizzle on 17/05/2015 - 19:22
          +2

          ohhh nice! Thanks for the info :) Sounds like a good idea. I don't think I've been to Coffs Harbour since I was maybe 7 years old.

        • Gravy on 17/05/2015 - 20:57
          +2

          Im from the Coffs area, its quite a bit closer to Gold Coast than Sydney so not really halfway. About 6 hours to Sydney and 4 hours to Gold Coast. Port Macquarie would be closer to halfway but you have to get off the highway for that one.

        • jackary on 18/05/2015 - 07:54
          +1

          @lizzle: I did the drive maaaaany times on my red and green P's, in a Hyundai Excel no doubt! Rule 1 is stop if you're tired, rule 2 is regardless, pace yourself. You're in no rush. But if you're anything like me, the nerves and anxiety on that first drive will be more than enough to keep you awake. All the best :)

        • [Deactivated] on 18/05/2015 - 08:14
          +2

          @lizzle: Formule 1 at Coffs Harbour. We always break this trip in two and we always stay there - its cheap.

      • PVA on 17/05/2015 - 21:03
        +1

        you wont do it non-stop , stop at coffs harbour, port macquarie something like that.

        Have many many stops seeing it will be your first long trip. Hop out and have a coffee, walk around and strech the legs. Dont just drive and drive.

        The scariest part will be Sydney, traffic is crazy.

        Enjoy your road trip adventure.

    • johnno07 on 17/05/2015 - 23:16

      I hope you are not planning on doing it in one day.

      I did Melbourne to Brisbane in one day. Granted - I had someone to talk to.

      • Scrooge McDuck on 17/05/2015 - 23:52

        At what speed?

        • jorf on 18/05/2015 - 08:03

          It's not that bad - it's under 12 hours Brisbane to Sydney without speeding. I'd still recommend stopping though if there is only one driver, especially if inexperienced.

          We once did Alice Springs to Brisbane in under 24 hours non-stop with two drivers. There was some speeding involved.

        • johnno07 on 18/05/2015 - 09:08
          +2

          Haha just the speed limit*. Left early from Melbourne, got home to Brissy a bit after midnight. We were actually in Tasmania the previous day, so went from Launceston to Brisbane in about 30 hours.

          *A couple of weeks later I received a fixed-camera fine in the mail, for being about 4kms over the limit out of Melbourne. Rough!

        • itsmemeow on 18/05/2015 - 09:26
          +1

          @hcca: And you switched drivers without stopping?

        • imaximax1 on 18/05/2015 - 18:38

          @johnno07: 4km/s over the limit???????????

        • johnno07 on 18/05/2015 - 19:11

          @imaximax1: I was "detected" doing 108 in a 100 zone, but to account for possible error, they only alleged 103. So annoying because I'd spent the last 2 weeks road tripping around the country, being particularly careful my speed, then, getting out of Melbourne, I obviously let my attention slip for a second while going under a fixed camera. Definitely my most irritating fine ever - 3km/h literally cost me $185. Oh well!

        • jorf on 19/05/2015 - 07:53

          @itsmemeow:

          Well obviously. How else?

  • t_c on 17/05/2015 - 19:18

    I think you can truck it up for around $400

    • lizzle on 17/05/2015 - 19:21

      I'll be in Sydney for a few days anyway to visit my sister. Figured I could just drive the car up myself. Thanks for the info anyway though :)

      • azm on 17/05/2015 - 20:13

        If you can drive in Sydney, it wont be a problem :-) Like others suggested, take a break.

        We drove all the way from Melbourne to Gold Coast round trip with 2 young kids. We stopped overnight in Sydney and break every 2 hours. Drink plenty of water and rest.

        • btst7000 on 18/05/2015 - 16:07

          Keep in mind that this is a solo driver without P-plates!

    • Scrooge McDuck on 17/05/2015 - 23:51
      +1

      I think you can truck it up for around $400

      I'll drive it for you for $350.

      • gimli on 18/05/2015 - 19:08
        +2

        $349

        • de22 on 19/05/2015 - 00:08

          $300. You pay petrol.

        • Scrooge McDuck on 19/05/2015 - 10:22
          +1

          @Rastafarian:

          Petrol for the trip would cost way more than $50.

        • de22 on 19/05/2015 - 11:08

          @Scrooge McDuck: Not if it's a Tesla.

        • Scrooge McDuck on 19/05/2015 - 12:11

          @Rastafarian:

          It's a Lancer, NOT a Tesla.

          30 - 0

        • scotty on 19/05/2015 - 17:31
          +2

          @Rastafarian: A Tesla would run out of juice half way there and there's currently no Supercharger on Pacific Highway, which means you need to stay somewhere overnight to charge up your vehicle…

        • Islund on 20/05/2015 - 13:32

          I , on the other hand, will drive it up for you for free. You pay the petrol.

  • battler on 17/05/2015 - 19:29
    +4

    Could advertise on gumtree for a free ride syd-goldie, but they have to drive.
    Can probably get a tourist/backpacker to help.
    Company on long trips, for talking, really helps with not drifting off mentally.

    I strongly recommend not attempting to drive that distance in one day at your experience level.

    • lizzle on 17/05/2015 - 19:41

      Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I realize how difficult it would be for me to take the trip in one go.

    • oringal on 17/05/2015 - 23:44
      +1

      yeah you probably should do this… or consider a holiday trip with friends or family. You can all drive up to Gold Coast, spend a few days and then they can take a flight home, a flight should cost less than $100 these days.

    • syousef on 18/05/2015 - 11:01
      +7

      Great idea. Stranger driving your car. No thanks.

  • Axelstrife on 17/05/2015 - 19:49
    +1

    i drove from Sydney to Melbourne the day after i got my red P's alone without any problems.
    make sure you stop and rest as it gets mindlessly boring driving that long in one shot.

    • battler on 17/05/2015 - 20:59
      +12

      Syd-melb is a far easier drive than syd-gc.

      • Axelstrife on 17/05/2015 - 22:55

        if you say so.

        • placard on 18/05/2015 - 08:33
          +1

          I'll agree with battler. I've done both trips and Melb To Syd is dual lanes each way nearly the whole way, straight roads mostly, very boring though.

          Syd to QLD Pacific Hwy is in many parts terrible road surfaces, bends, single lanes each way for much of it, people doing illegal overtaking, narrow bridge crossings, etc.

          Not that it's super difficult, but I do think you need to concentrate more on the Pacific Hwy. There's always nasty accidents all the time on it, which causes massive tail backs that we usually get stuck in :/ Usually because some car has crashed at Telegraph Point on the bridge or something and no one can get past.

    • Charity on 17/05/2015 - 23:47
      +1

      how does your attention span become so short?

      Not an insult just curious. Driving for me is so easy and kind of relaxing, esp long drives.

      • Scrooge McDuck on 17/05/2015 - 23:54
        +4

        kind of relaxing

        You're doing it wrong. ¬_¬

        • Charity on 18/05/2015 - 00:34
          -8

          You're doing it wrong. ¬_¬

          Don't u mean you are doing it wrong? You are the one not relaxed. Driving can and is fun. Try upgrading your chinese hatch.

        • [Deactivated] on 18/05/2015 - 03:08
          +4

          @Son ofa Zombie:

          Don't u mean you are doing it wrong? You are the one not relaxed. Driving can and is fun. Try upgrading your chinese hatch.

          While I agree that driving can be and is 'fun', I disagree that long drives are 'relaxing'. I've driven the Syd-Melb route countless times and have found it to be fun each time (drove it alone with music as company) but each time was left with an aching back and/or shoulder/s.

          Nice views. Nice experience. Some nice roads. Relaxing though? Hmm. Not exactly.

        • johnno07 on 18/05/2015 - 09:16

          @Son ofa Zombie: If you're going to have a go at other people for not "upgrading their chinese hatch" - please tell us what amazing vehicle you drive that makes driving in a straight line through nothingness, fun.

        • ProjectZero on 18/05/2015 - 09:31

          @waterlogged turnip:

          each time was left with an aching back and/or shoulder/s.

          What kind of car do you have? Normally, if you seat back into the seat that shouldn't happen… also, not trying to be sexist/rude/[insert adjective here] here, but it could be a female problem rather then a male problem due to the physiological differences?

        • Scrooge McDuck on 18/05/2015 - 10:16

          @Son ofa Zombie:

          You are the one not relaxed.

          My point was that I don't equate driving with relaxation. I remain alert and scan the road ahead and around me. If I found myself relaxing, I'd consider taking a break.

          On the motor/highway one should remain occupied by:

          • Continuously scanning for hazards like debris, slow vehicles and merging/turning vehicles.
          • Driving at the speed limit when safe and overtaking slower vehicles.
          • Pre-emptively changing lanes to the right to allow vehicles to merge from the left.
          • etc.
        • [Deactivated] on 18/05/2015 - 17:03
          +1

          @ProjectZero:

          also, not trying to be sexist/rude/[insert adjective here] here, but it could be a female problem rather then a male problem due to the physiological differences?

          lol I wish I had that problem.

      • Axelstrife on 18/05/2015 - 00:20

        So you enjoy sitting holding the steering wheel looking at the road which consists of white lines and other cars and trucks for long periods of time?

        I feel sorry for you if that is what you call enjoyable.

        • Charity on 18/05/2015 - 00:35
          -3

          Try upgrading your car.

          Driving doesn't have to be a chore.

        • Axelstrife on 18/05/2015 - 01:30

          @Son ofa Zombie: How do you know what i drove in anyway?
          ive driven old and new cards on long trips and they all are boring as (profanity).

          Try not insulting people like you did above.

        • Charity on 18/05/2015 - 01:49
          -7

          @holden93:

          try your own advice. I only returned what you gave me.

          U insulted, I insulted.

          U presumed, I presumed.

          Sucks when it comes back, right?

        • Axelstrife on 18/05/2015 - 02:13
          +4

          @Son ofa Zombie: Not a single word of my conversation to you today has been an insult.

      • This Guy on 18/05/2015 - 03:26
        +4

        I constantly scan for issues and ignore most scenery and conversation when driving as I am focusing on the road.

        When the road is straight and you can see a km in each direction driving loses any sort of challenge. Some people get bored when they aren't challenged.

        The only ways I can think of making the Hume fun are stupidly dangerous.

        • Scrooge McDuck on 18/05/2015 - 10:22
          +2

          The only ways I can think of making the Hume fun

          I don't usually listen to anything other than the road while driving but I queued up the entire tracklist of DDR 1–8 for my drives to Melbourne.

          That's 9+ h total of 1′30″ dance tracks to keep you alert.

        • This Guy on 18/05/2015 - 23:21

          @Scrooge McDuck:

          I have a few Pandora stations and stop for coffee every few hours :)

  • npc on 17/05/2015 - 19:53
    +2

    Of course you can do that. Be patient, drive safely and you will enjoy the ride, get new experience and memories..

    The most important is to stop if you feel tired, too stressed etc. Better to have a nap and arrive late.

  • Davo1111 on 17/05/2015 - 20:20
    +17

    The fact you need to ask means you're not ready to do it. Also you're a new driver

    • djones145 on 17/05/2015 - 20:44

      This
      There will he heaps of cars and trucks which will fly by u, from Sydney to Newcastle is fine case it's multi lanes, pretty sure in north NSW it's one lane and if your ain't driving fast, you have heaps of cars tailing Like crazy!

      Don't like flying? Tickets ain't that expensive

      • IceCreamBandit on 17/05/2015 - 20:51
        +3

        Don't like flying? Tickets ain't that expensive

        OP said…

        I'm planning to drive up from Sydney to GC (need to move the car up)

        To OP:

        How much experience do you have driving on freeways/motorways? Have you done even shorter trips like Sydney > Central Coast/Newcastle or Sydney > Canberra?

        Since you'll be on your Red P's, your speed limit will mean almost everyone will pass you (except for L platers). Other than experience driving at higher speeds and being able to stay aware with not much happening, you need to make sure you don't get intimidated should anyone tailgate you, especially on any one lane sections. Just drive at the speed you are comfortable and confident at given the conditions and you'll be fine.

        Make the trip over two days and you'll probably find it more comfortable as you aren't sticking to a deadline or anything.

        • lizzle on 17/05/2015 - 21:58

          I'm from GC, and the longest trip I've done is between GC to Brisbane. I definitely plan on doing some short road trips before the big one, but I guess it's hard to compare a 2-3 hour drive to a 10+ hour trip (which, yes, after reading the comments on here, will be split into two separate days). I am slightly worried about the one-lane areas, because it sounds like most vehicles will be traveling at high speeds, and I don't want to be speeding over the limit at any point of my trip.

        • Scrooge McDuck on 17/05/2015 - 23:40
          +2

          Since you'll be on your Red P's, your speed limit will mean almost everyone will pass you (except for L platers). Other than experience driving at higher speeds and being able to stay aware with not much happening, you need to make sure you don't get intimidated should anyone tailgate you, especially on any one lane sections. Just drive at the speed you are comfortable and confident at given the conditions and you'll be fine.

          +1

          Don't be surprised if you grow a long train of vehicles behind you. Source: Driving to Thredbo on my Ls, sorry to all those people but Dad wanted to get my hours up lazily.

          Make sure you keep left wherever practical to let other drivers use the overtaking lanes and merge safely before the left lane ends.

    • ProjectZero on 18/05/2015 - 09:33

      Yeah, what OzB's most eligible bachelor said… ask him to drive you up =)

  • ju2au on 17/05/2015 - 20:27

    I have driven Brisbane to/from Sydney quite a few times, the roads have improved/upgraded quite significantly since the 90s. Therefore, it not that difficult a drive.

    However, when I think back to when I first got my license, I shudder as I was a pretty crap driver and this applies to everyone who first got their license. Therefore, you need to get some long distance driving experience under your belt before attempting this trip. You are used to Gold Coast roads so take a drive from Gold Coast to Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast to Toowoomba and try those Gold Coast hinterland mountain roads around Springbrook and Mount Tamborine.

    Do those "practice" trips before your main trip.

    Note: For the Gold Coast hinterland mountain roads idea, you might want to leave that to the last or even skip it. Now that I had a think about it, those roads are probably the most dangerous out of that list for the novice driver.

    • lizzle on 17/05/2015 - 20:42

      The shorter road trips beforehand definitely sound like a good idea. It'll probably help my friend become more used to my driving as well, since she's never been in the car with me (while I was the driver).

    • Davo1111 on 17/05/2015 - 20:56
      +10

      Expect to drive >130km/h.

      I hope that's a typo. OP is limited to 90km/hr

      If you commit any speeding offence your P1 licence will be suspended for at least three months. An additional suspension or refusal period will apply for any excessive speed offence (more than 30km/h over the speed limit).

        • Scrooge McDuck on 17/05/2015 - 23:44
          +7

          The cops don't care,

          The other people on the road care, OP's friends and family care, and I care. ¬_¬

        • Davo1111 on 17/05/2015 - 23:49

          They might not notice if that state doesn't have the same speed limits… however demerit points now transfer across state boundaries quite easily.

        • [Deactivated] on 18/05/2015 - 07:48

          Let me guess, you never made it off your P's? ;)

        • jackary on 18/05/2015 - 07:59
          +1

          @Scrooge McDuck: Haha I can assure you they do, as I have the infringement for driving at 110km/h down the M1 through Mullimbimby to prove it lol.

        • jorf on 18/05/2015 - 08:08
          +1

          I believe the speed limits should be much higher than they currently are on decent dual carriage way roads, but to say the "cops don't care" is garbage.

        • ausmechkeyboards on 18/05/2015 - 09:41
          -2

          @hcca: this is the reality. If you get fined while interstate, especially on a main road, you probably have a really shitty attitude.

        • ausmechkeyboards on 18/05/2015 - 09:43
          -5

          @wasabinator: feels like I'm the only one not on my P's here.

        • johnno07 on 19/05/2015 - 07:57
          +2

          @ausmechkeyboards:

          If you get fined while interstate, especially on a main road, you probably have a really shitty attitude.

          With your attitude, I'd fine you in a heartbeat.

        • Islund on 20/05/2015 - 13:36

          Office of State Revenue definitely cares - they will pursue you to your grave and then your children.

        • ausmechkeyboards on 20/05/2015 - 15:16
          -1

          @johnno07: well, lucky for both of us you're only a police officer on the internet then.

    • battler on 17/05/2015 - 20:57
      +6

      130 km/h?

      Please explain why you think this is an expectation.

        • IceCreamBandit on 17/05/2015 - 22:36
          +11

          OP please ignore the above comment. Your concern is not whether truckies make their trip on time, or how fast they want you to go. Just worry about yourself and don't be pressured into anything dangerous or illegal like ausmechkeyboards is suggesting.

          Keep to the speed you're comfortable doing as long as it's reasonable i.e. don't do 40km/h in a 110km/h zone unless there are other factors at play such as weather.

        • ausmechkeyboards on 18/05/2015 - 09:42
          -2

          @IceCreamBandit: driving 130km/h is not any more dangerous than driving 90km/h.

        • jackary on 18/05/2015 - 10:21

          @ausmechkeyboards: No.

          To cite an obvious example, fatalities have dropped considerably since lowering the speed limit in QLD on the M1 between Curra and Cooroy from 100 to 90.

          A simple breakdown on why this is a bad idea can be found here, among hundreds more elsewhere on the interwebs.

        • ausmechkeyboards on 18/05/2015 - 11:27

          @jackary: I don't care about arguments for fuel efficiency or stopping distance: neither of which have anything to do with whether or not driving 130km/h vs driving 90km/h is any more dangerous on roads that are largely straight, deserted and hundreds of kilometres long.

          I'm sure the bulk of the hundreds of other arguments would have absolutely nothing to do with the conditions of interstate travel, and the sparse remaining arguments would have to do with things like overheating, bold tyres, or conditions of the road itself, and all of which would still not present any real argument for driving at 130km/h being more dangerous than driving at 90km/h.

        • Lockieasy on 18/05/2015 - 13:03

          ausmechkeyboards has a good point. When I drove Syd>Griffith and back a few years ago on my P's I was doing 140km/h and people were overtaking me doing 160km/h+. The road is dead straight and flat out that way, with absolutely nothing around which was why everyone was excessively speeding. You slow down to the speed limit before entering the towns along the way of course.

          Depending on the conditions, sometimes it's totally pointless to go any slower, unless you want to take an extra few hours to get there.

        • jackary on 18/05/2015 - 13:46

          @LockieF: Sorry mate, you lost me at your second sentence. I won't take driving advice from a provisional licence holder who thinks it was/is appropriate to drive at 140km/h, whether others were driving faster or not.

          There are very few roads in Australia that are like you describe. The remainder are by comparison some of the worst, and most dangerous in the world.

          Short of the Autobahn etc, what you you are suggesting is the speed limit be raised higher than that of any developed country, which is preposterous.

        • jackary on 18/05/2015 - 13:49

          @ausmechkeyboards: I… I just can't. OK.

        • ausmechkeyboards on 18/05/2015 - 14:54

          @jackary:

          Sorry mate, you lost me at your second sentence

          "I'm going to ignore what you've typed because I can spend that time giving my opinion instead"

          There are very few roads in Australia that are like you describe

          Basically all of the interstate roads going out of Sydney, which is what we're discussing.

          The remainder are by comparison some of the worst, and most dangerous in the world

          By an educated comparison? Or by inventing a false comparison to try to justify your comment? I've driven interstate a dozen times (Sydney -> Queensland and Sydney -> Melbourne) and the roads were better than most I find in non-rural Sydney, or outside of Australia.

          Short of the Autobahn etc, what you you are suggesting is the speed limit be raised higher than that of any developed country, which is preposterous

          LockieF literally did not suggest any form of speed limit change, where did you get that from? That's why it pays to to hold back the excitement of throwing in your two cents and actually read people's comments first.

        • pjetson on 18/05/2015 - 15:59
          +2

          Driving 130km/h is not any more dangerous than driving 90km/h.

          Yeah, it's mostly the sudden stop that's dangerous…

        • jackary on 18/05/2015 - 17:07

          @ausmechkeyboardsAhh ok. Sorry who was my response written to again?

          You're acting like a 3 year old who isn't getting what they want. I should have left a dozen references to substantiate what I wrote, but would have you ignored it any less?

          If you think an Australian road compares to one from nearly any European country you've got rocks in your head. Have a great day.

        • jackary on 18/05/2015 - 17:08

          @pjetson: TNANKYOU! The whole point, of which has now been bogged down in semantics.

        • Lockieasy on 18/05/2015 - 20:41

          @jackary: You didn't read my sentence, this was a few years ago. I've been a full licence holder for years and also hold a CAMS licence and have completed a certificate in defensive driving. Never had an accident or a fine. :)

        • pjetson on 19/05/2015 - 14:45

          @jackary: I think you missed my point :-)

          The sudden stop when you crash into a tree or wall at 130kmh produces a bit more than twice as much energy as the sudden stop when you crash at 90kmh. So, my statement that it's not the speed that kills you, it's the sudden stop.

          Of course, if you can guarantee that you're not going to crash into anything, and no-one else is going to crash into you, then by all means drive at 200kmh.

        • jackary on 19/05/2015 - 19:28

          @pjetson: Not at all. My original link covers exactly your point.

          My point is that you can never guarantee someone isn't going to crash into you, nor you someone else. So this is all a rather moot discussion.

    • [Deactivated] on 17/05/2015 - 22:39

      No the rule of thumb is to set the cruise control and do it in one hit. Maybe stop for lunch and fuel.

    • Devils Advocate on 19/05/2015 - 23:54

      Haha you don't understand the term "rule of thumb". Also, if you took a rest every truck stop and petrol station it would take about 3 days to get there.

      (Plus what everyone else has already said in reply to your asinine comment)

      • ausmechkeyboards on 20/05/2015 - 15:15

        Asinine describes what the majority of Ozbargain posters are, and the majority of people who replied to my comment. Including yourself.

        • Devils Advocate on 20/05/2015 - 19:02

          Your grammar and sentence structure proves my point.

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