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Apple iPhone 6 (16GB, Silver) - Limited Offer
Leaves warehouse on 21 Oct
You will get,
1 Year Australian Warranty
- Support & Repairs
- Phone & Email Support
Apple iPhone 6 (16GB, Silver) $769 + Delivery @ Kogan
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Lroadfinder on 19/09/2015 - 16:37 kogan.com (842 clicks)
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you can get the same from Officework for AU929.00
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/iphone-6-16…
and 6S goes to AU1079.00
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/iphone-6s-1…
you can get the same from Officework for AU929.00
How about the iPhone 6 64GB from Dick Smith Electronics for $1049 until Monday?
Some sort of Mates Rates Sale.
Maybe OfficeWorks would PriceBeat at $996.55 ?
Not bad for the extra local warranty support etc.
It's been posted here for more than $100 cheaper a couple of times in the last week, so feel free to continue crapping.
21 Oct is more than a month away. Something to consider. and that limited 16Gb too.
Yes in 2015 I think many people would want more than 16gb. I know in 2013 when I had a One M7 that didn't offer expandable storage the base model was still 32gb. I'm sure there'll be plenty of deals for 16gb model iphone 6 and 6+ in the coming weeks. :)
A good Guardian article about selling a 16Gb phone in 2015 is a disservice and is just about forcing you to pay even more money. It says for an extra US$6.72 they could have given an extra 16Gb
Why would they give it when people are eager to pay over $100 extra for it.
$150 in Australia :D
friggen marketeers and their excel profiteering
You will get,
1 Year Australian Warranty
Support & Repairs
Phone & Email SupportReally? From whom? Kogan HK Limited is an overseas company based in Hong Kong, China.
Phones and tablets sold by Kogan.com are network unlocked, international models.
Kogan is not affiliated with the manufacturer of this product in any way. This Product is an international model imported directly from internationally based distributors. This Product may differ in some respects from other similar products available from local retailers in various countries around the world.
So, the iPhone you receive may have been imported into Hong Kong from the USA, or from the EU, or from some other country in Asia.
Then the buyer imports it into Australia.
What's in the box
AU/NZ Compliant Generic Charger
AU/NZ Compliant Generic AdapterThis Product is offered and supplied by Kogan HK Limited pursuant to the Terms and Conditions.
What's the issue? That's how grey imports work and ozb loves imposting.
What's the issue?
My issue is that the OP is claiming:-
"You will get,
1 Year Australian Warranty
Support & Repairs
Phone & Email Support"I do not believe those claims are correct.
That's how grey imports work and ozb loves imposting.
No, these are not grey imports as far as Australia is concerned.
If they were. they would already be in Australia, and sold by a local business. Then the buyers would have rights under the Australian Consumer Guarantee - which would cover the iPhones for at least two years.
These will be Private Imports of what may be HK market phones, or may be grey market phones imported to Hong Kong from other countries. There are no rights under Australia's Consumer Guarantee, nor any certainty of local warranty support, or out of warranty support, from Apple Australia.
Lol. I can see why you remain banned from whirlpool. You can call these private import, while the rest of ozb call them grey imports.
Lol. I can see why you remain banned from whirlpool.
That is rather off-topic surely? I have a new user name on Whirlpool, and post from time to time. However, I no longer post on Whirlpool about stolen iPhones being freely sold on eBay - a contentious subject on Whirlpool, so it seems.
Not here though - take a look at the 16 Activation Locked iPhones being offered on eBay by seller greengadgetsaustralia right now.
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=greengadgetsau…
You can call these private import (sic), while the rest of ozb call them grey imports.
You can can misname them all you wish. The fact remains that some may be grey imports into Hong Kong, but ALL will be Private Imports when imported to Australia by the buyers.
That is how they are defined by Apple Australia, by Australian Customs, and by Fair Trading and Consumer Affairs.
if you put i that way, then lets call these parallel imports.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/sales-delivery/buying-para…now whats wrong with buying parallel imports?
if you put i that way, then lets call these parallel imports.
They are not defined as parallel imports.
Please READ the link that you posted.
Parallel imports were imported by an Australian business/seller for re-sale.
There are even examples given.says you. the accc says otherwise.
Example: Cheep Phones has sourced its phones from a well-known supplier who is based in the USA. The USA supplier only has permission to sell these phones in the USA market. Cheep Phones sells the phones online to Australian consumers. Jimmy decides to buy a phone online from Cheep Phones because it seems a lot cheaper than other websites or stores in Australia. Jimmy would be buying a parallel import.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/sales-delivery/buying-para…edit
the example doesn't state where cheep phones is trading from.Example: Cheep Phones has sourced its phones from a well-known supplier who is based in the USA. The USA supplier only has permission to sell these phones in the USA market. Cheep Phones sells the phones online to Australian consumers. Jimmy decides to buy a phone online from Cheep Phones because it seems a lot cheaper than other websites or stores in Australia. Jimmy would be buying a parallel import.
Do you have a comprehension problem?
Cheep Phones is the Australian business that has purchased and imported its phones from a supplier in the USA. Cheep Phones then sells these phones to Australian consumers.
These phone would be covered under Australia's Consumer Guarantee, and would be considered as grey market imports and/or parallel imports.
Completely different to the case of the phones in this post. They are being sold and supplied by an overseas seller/business located in Hong Kong. Australian consumers are buying from this overseas supplier and privately importing these phones.
Here is a quote of the full section.
NOTE that this covers Parallel Imports NOT Private Imports which have no protection under the Consumer Guarantee."Most manufacturers allow businesses to distribute and sell their products in particular countries, including Australia. However, sometimes a business will sell genuine products which have been bought into Australia without the specific permission of the manufacturer. That's called a parallel import. Parallel imports include many different products such as groceries, alcohol, personal care products and electronics. They can be sold online or in-store.
Some indicators that a product may be a parallel import include:
the product is a genuine one made overseas, but you can’t identify any relationship or association between the seller and the manufacturer
the purchase price is cheaper than you would ordinarily expect to pay for the product in Australia
the product is not otherwise available in the Australian market
the product is refurbished rather than brand new.Example: Cheep Phones has sourced its phones from a well-known supplier who is based in the USA. The USA supplier only has permission to sell these phones in the USA market. Cheep Phones sells the phones online to Australian consumers. Jimmy decides to buy a phone online from Cheep Phones because it seems a lot cheaper than other websites or stores in Australia. Jimmy would be buying a parallel import.
Your rights when buying parallel importsWhile you have the same consumer rights when you buy parallel imports as you do with any other goods, it may be more difficult to obtain a remedy if something goes wrong with a parallel import.
Consumer guaranteesGoods come with a number of guarantees under the Australian Consumer Law, known as consumer guarantees. If your good is faulty or does not do what you asked for you may be entitled to a remedy which includes a right to a repair, replacement or refund.
The seller who you bought the good from will be responsible for providing you with a remedy under the consumer guarantees.
The seller cannot refuse to help you or ask you to contact the local manufacturer.
If the seller is based overseas, there may be practical and legal difficulties in enforcing your consumer guarantee rights against an overseas business.Local manufacturers and warranties
If the product comes with a manufacturer’s warranty - that warranty may not apply in Australia, or depending on the terms and conditions may not apply to products sold as parallel imports.
Although your products may carry a particular or popular brand name - if it is sold to you as a parallel import, the local manufacturer is not required to help you if the product develops a fault. You need to contact the seller.
You may not be able to get assistance such as product/technical support or repair/spare part facilities from the local manufacturer or their representative. For example, the software of your product may not be suited for the Australian market. You need to contact the seller."you're assuming cheep phones is an australian registered business and trading from australia. the example could be operating like kogan.
you're assuming cheep phones is an australian registered business and trading from australia. the example could be operating like kogan.
No. Please read the whole page that you linked, in context.
so?????
my samsung S5 from Kogan came with an adapter, but the power supply was genuine and compliant, I hate adapters.
For the savings that you get, get yourself a 12W iPad apple charger, I think iPhones and iPods till ship with 5W chargers……. so you were probably going to get a better charger anyway.
All Iphones are international, it's how apple design them so they have less models to build and distribute, that is why iPhone covers all our 4G bands.
I don't think apple say "take it back to the place you bought it from", what tell a traveller they won't fix his phone if he's on holidays or has relocated for work ….. this is apple …… the genius bar swapped my iPhone when the battery was old on the spot after they checked it for water damage ……….
It's a different service level from apple compared to other manufacturers ………. wish I could afford one again ……… I'm only on android because its cheap.
Meant to press +.
Kogan is all OEM.
Can these phones covered under Australian warranty?Throw away your warranty and peace of mind to save a hungy?
Kogan is all OEM.
Sorry, but that is nonsense.
Can these phones [be] covered under Australian warranty?
These will be private imports of iPhones first sold in other markets.
Kogan HK Limited is NOT an authorised re-seller of Apple products.
Kogan HK has to buy these iPhones from owners, re-sellers, carrier stores etc. Then re-sell them to Australian buyers.
There is no guaranty of warranty support from from Apple Australia, nor any protection under the Australian Consumer Guarantee.
That's what I just said!
Kogan's whole business is OEM.
I import tech gadgets as well
and know his story well too.He went out and bought Australian spec phones in Hong Kong and China
and know sells them back to Australia?Lay off the wacky tobacky..
You work for Kogan by any chance?
Kogan's whole business is not really OEM, That would imply that they rebrand the iPhone's (Kogan Phone 6 etc). I don't think you are using the right term?
That's what I just said!
Kogan's whole business is OEM.You do not appear to know what OEM stands for. Original Equipment Manufacturer.
Are you really suggesting that Kogan HK Limited is buying iPhones from Apple's manufacturers?
I import tech gadgets as well
and know his story well too.Ok. So, what?
He went out and bought Australian spec phones in Hong Kong and China
and know sells them back to Australia?Kogan buys both HK Market iPhones (which are the same model as AU/NZ Market iphones) and they also buy iPhone from USA and from Europe.Some of these phones are the same specifications/models as Australian market iPhones, some are not. For example some of the iP5s phones sold are from the USA and do not have all the 4G bands that Australian market iPhones have.
Lay off the wacky tobacky..
Why are you getting so offensive?
You work for Kogan by any chance?
No, why would you ask that?
@A3Australia:
Your so defensive about your purchase, and your…. judgement…???
That's all I needed to know.UNDERSTAND WORDS
KOGAN = OEM = NOT APPLEDo you think he went to apple and bought the phones and then sells them to consumers?
@A3Australia:
Do you have a comprehension problem?
They buy the phones from a clone factory in China then put the apple logos on it.
@2bitbludger: Unsure if serious or trolling. They most certainly aren't sourced from "clone factories" as you state.
This is correct.
Although apple generally offers an international warranty on certain products, they may decline servicing imported models under warranty. These products are not covered by ACL.
It is fairly difficult (stringent rules) to be an official/authorised apple retailer.
They claim to have an Australian warranty, but this will not be an authorised repairer. They will likely repair the product inhouse or send it to the market of origin to claim warranty repairs. It is very loosely an Australian warranty. Once again, not covered by ACL.
Throw away your warranty and peace of mind to save a hungy (sic)?
You edited your comment to add this, So I will respond.
You are correct. It would not appear worthwhile to lose a two year Consumer Guarantee honoured locally by Apple Australia, just to save a hundred dollars on a phone that could cost $800+ to replace.
However, sometimes the risk may be worth it - if the saving is enough.
For example, I purchased an iPhone from Kogan HK Limited when there was a Kogan eBay iPhone Sale that coincided with a 20% off offer from eBay/PayPal. So far, it has been worth the risk. However, it is time to sell, and to maybe buy a new iP6S - I fear that my iPhone will not bring a good price because it is a private import.
6s is coming out in 5 days
16gb… avoid!!!
16GB? My 2012 model toaster has more than that.
If anyone's concerned about warranty issues (re some fairly 'hot' threads above) - I suggest you refer to the Kogan site - specifically:
https://www.kogan.com/au/terms-and-conditions/#other-product… & https://www.kogan.com/au/warranty-terms-and-conditions/Some pertinent points -
* re: T&C "Where you place an Order for Kogan HK Products to be delivered outside of Hong Kong, you will be the importer of the Kogan HK Products into Your jurisdiction."
* re: T&C 17.4 - "Insofar as they apply to the ordering, purchase, fulfilment and delivery of Kogan HK Products from Kogan HK, these terms and conditions are governed by and must be construed according to the law of Hong Kong and the parties submit to the jurisdiction of the courts of Hong Kong."
* re: T&C 11.1 - "Each Kogan HK Product sold on the Website is covered by a 12 Month Standard Warranty."
* re: WT&C - "Kogan HK supplies and supports all warranties relating to Products which are noted as being offered and supplied by Kogan HK ("KHK Products")."
* re: WT&C "The warranties and product support set out in these Terms and Conditions are provided by Kogan Australia and Kogan HK (as the case may be) irrespective of:
- 1. the identity of the manufacturer of the Product;
- 2. whether or not the manufacturer has provided its own warranties or product support in relation to the Product.
For the avoidance of doubt:
- 1. We make no representations or warranty in relation to the existence, non-existence, validity, availability, terms or conditions of any other warranties or product support that may or may not be offered or provided by the manufacturer of the Product; and
- 2. Our goods come with guarantees that cannot be excluded under the Australian Consumer Law. The warranties and product support that we offer and provide pursuant to our Terms and Conditions are in addition to the consumer warranties and guarantees under the Australian Consumer Law."Note - I think this last point could be misleading as I am not sure there will be any provision under Australian Consumer Law to make claim given that the customer is the importer of goods from a Hong Kong supplier.
BTW. I'm not saying it's all bad news. Some people will regard the price saving as enough incentive to take a bit of risk. Just trying to clarify what you are actually buying.
So..up to you if you think this is a good bye or not.
I don't think it's the kogan warranty that people need to read, it's the Apple warranty, some of their devices have international warranties, so if people travel or relocate for work, they get the service an Apple buyer expects. When I took my iPhone in for repair at the genius bar, they didn't ask for receipts, just checked the date the phone was turned and that it was registered to me (warranty might not be transferable to other users, not sure).
When you go the the genius bar, they check for water damage or cracked screen and give you a "refurbished phone" …. though my "refurbished replacement" was new … I would not be surprised if the refurbished phones they sell on their web site are the repaired units and customers get new ones during warranty period.
Not sure how many have owned and dealt with apple for warranty …..
They didn't say "we will send it to our repair centre and call you in 2 weeks" mine had no water damage, no cracked screen, got another phone on the spot and was out in under 30 minutes after they set it up.
Love the genius bar, love apple, hate their prices, hope to be able to afford an iPhone again when I replace my android.
You pay for the service in the purchase price, that is why apple cost more, like owning a bmw vs holden ……
wish they had their Ebay 20% off weekend on this one.
I was going to crap on this then I looked up the Aus prices for the 6s. Dear god that's pricy