There's a whole backstory but it's one of those really hard to swallow ones: it involves an emergency call from the security team informing me that an intruder had been detected in the lab and that they would appreciate if I could get there ASAP. I do …in my superman suit.
8 hours later, I have my appraisal and I cry. One of my appraiser offers me a box of tissue :(
So what is your most embarrassing work story? Might cheer me up a little.
Thanks!
JJB
My Myers & Briggs Profile says that I'm an introvert and that:
I like getting my energy from dealing with the ideas, pictures, memories, and reactions that are inside my head, in my inner world. I often prefer doing things alone or with one or two people I feel comfortable with. I take time to reflect so that I have a clear idea of what I'll be doing when I decide to act. Ideas are almost solid things for me. Sometimes I like the idea of something better than the real thing.
IRL, I'm the quiet, reserved one , who is considered to be trustworthy and wise. Maybe I've started thinking of OZB and ozbargainers as part of my inner world ? o.O
My Myers & Briggs Profile
Sorry, but those psych profiles are horeseshit. People do those online tests and treat them like a Sorting Hat; they see what they want to see, wear their 'INTJ' and 'ESFP' statuses on their sleeve, and like a horoscope, adapt to how they think they should behave. It's discredited pseudo-science.
Mine was carried out by a psychologist but yes, I agree with you. While I wouldn't say its pseudo-science, it ain't a hard science either.
So you're an INTJ I take it?
@Jar Jar Binks: It's a standardised test, it really doesn't matter how you took it. Myers-Briggs has no more real-world application than a 'Which Game of Thrones Character are You?' quiz on Buzzfeed.
@pinchies: I'm sure if I did the test, I might get something similar to that, but I don't really put any stock in those things.
@pinchies: Recovering INTJ . I try to be more aware of other people's feelings and more compassionate.I am also very affectionate with my wife, kids, pets.. But I have to consciously remind myself to relax when other than the aforementioned tries to hug me or kiss me on the cheeks.The mrs's friends and family are very affectionate and loving people :&
Do you cry around your kids and pets too?
@Jar Jar Binks: Somehow I knew tumblr was involved. You seriously buy any of this self-indulgent nonsense?
INTJs are known for their intensity. Passion is just emotional intensity, which we are completely capable, to the extent that it surprises us when we experience it and can cause problems since we’re unused to it.
INTJs enjoy thinking about intimacy, and about ways to perfect it. We like low-key, intimate, one-on-one social time.
Why not go to a palm reader who'll flatter you with exactly the same thing, because it's just as scientific. Between this and that ridiculous chiropractor thread, I'm wondering if this community forfeited its healthy skepticism while rooting around in the bargain bin.
who'll flatter you with exactly the same thing,
Am I missing something here? INTJ is the group which has the highest incidence of individuals with 'personality' disorders(Cluster B), notably Schizotypal .
If I wanted to flatter myself, I would have gone with something else. Maybe ESFJ ? My understanding is that all the popular kids are ESFJs.
Why not go to a palm reader
Are you equating psychology with palmistry? o.O Source?
@Jar Jar Binks: There is no winning 'personality type' in the same way there is no over-powered star sign or Zodiac. People see what they want to see, either inflating their ego or their desire to be misunderstood. If you're already using language like this:
'I'm the quiet, reserved one , who is considered to be trustworthy and wise'
I'm guessing you think you're a beautiful and unique snowflake.
Are you equating psychology with palmistry? o.O Source?
The Myers-Briggs was created by a children's author and her kid, it's no more scientific than claiming you're sanguine or a Gryffindor. It's not endorsed by psychiatrists, nor considered in diagnosis. It's an oversimplification of human behaviour, boiled down to an almost childish degree, so even laymen like yourself can grasp it, wear it on your sleeve, and write about on tumblr.
I'm guessing you think you're a beautiful and unique snowflake.
LOL. Hardly.
even laymen like yourself can grasp it,
Are you saying you're a qualified psychiatrist?
Mine was carried out by a psychologist
As was mine. My psychologist only accepted to administer the test to disprove it by making us sit it twice, a fortnight apart. My psychologist claimed the test was mood dependent and almost no one got the same result on their second test.
Similar to what Stand0410 wrote, "The MBTI exhibits significant psychometric deficiencies, notably including poor validity and reliability." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indi…
INTJ is the group which has the highest incidence of individuals with 'personality' disorders (Cluster B), notably Schizotypal (en.wikipedia.org). - Source (uccs.edu)
“An empirical investigation of Jung's psychological types and personality disorder features”, FL Coolidge et al, is trying to better define personality disorders, nothing else. One of the stated limitations of this study is the use of the MBTI. This paper was testing an idea for further research.
“The Dark Side of the MBTI: Psychological Type and Interpersonal Derailers”, A Furnham, J Crump, cites Coolidge and looks interesting to my layman brain :p http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperInformation.aspx?paperID=4…
Why wouldn't you say it's pseudo-science. It absolutely is.
In my salad days I didn't know better but these days I take an employer taking Meyers-Brigg seriously as a potential red flag. There's silliness in any large organisation though so dodging this may mean running into some other policy that belongs in the dark ages. So everything has to be weighed.
"My psychologist claimed the test was mood dependent and almost no one got the same result on their second test."
So what he's telling you is that unless you take the test at the exact moment that you want to use the results, it's worthless. Neat scam. Especially since your mood can change during the test.
I believe people Introvert by default. They will be Extravert if they surrounded with crowded whom s/he know very well.
The un-easiness feeling with stranger is natural and people who frequently trained to "break the ice" will devekioed themselves to be an extravert. At the end they can give an interesting topic when they converse
Pretty much. My second sentence:
My psychologist only accepted to administer the test to disprove it
:-p
I'm guessing you think you're a beautiful and unique snowflake.
Everyone's unique in their own special way.
@wicket1120: Anakin Skywalker is unique in his own special way. @Jar Jar Binks: is a walking example of the Forer Effect
The Barnum effect, also called the Forer effect, is the observation that individuals will give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically for them, but are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people. This effect can provide a partial explanation for the widespread acceptance of some beliefs and practices, such as astrology, fortune telling, graphology, aura reading and some types of personality tests.
@Strand0410: I'm many things to JJB, but I'm not his psychologist (nor his social worker).But I can tell you this: he is a good man, one of the very best.
Are you familiar with Carl Jung's work? You must be, for all those personality tests :the MBTI, the BIG FIVE , the Eynseck's 3-factor model..etc that you are quick to discredit, are all to some degree based on his work on the archetypes of introversion and extroversion. I'm not a jungian therapist but I've always found him eminently quotable.
The one that come to mind after reading some of the comments on this thread ( and this one especially goes out to all those who've said "I want the 20 minutes of my life back") is :
everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves.
Totally off-topic but my all-time favourite quote from Jung is his "Show me a sane man and I'll cure him for you." One of my lecturer gave me a framed poster with this quote on it as a graduation present. I was never allowed to hang it on my office wall :(
@wicket1120: I'm not saying JarJar Binks is a bad man, just a gullible one; and I don't care for his attention-seeking posts. I want to re-iterate that I'm not writing off psychology; like sugar pills, I'm sure there's even a certain value to personality tests. But he dropped his Myers-Briggs status in his first comment of the thread, linked to a tumblr, and this little spiel about how 'quiet, reserved and trustworthy' he is? It's transparent ego-masturbation.
@Strand0410: You seem to be one of those people that have trouble viewing the world in anything other than a strict pseudo-rational way where everything is black and white, to the extreme, and whether something is a "hard science" or not determines absolutely whether it's important or not.
You then mistake having this view that every teenage atheist has managed to come to as meaning you have a superior intelligence despite no evidence at all to indicate this. This might be because humans aren't rational actors and we like taking mental shortcuts to feel good.
Having this extremist viewpoint means you seem to have written off the Myers-Briggs test being "unscientific" when it's simply a framework for meta thinking and this is how the OP is using it. And as many psychologists will point out the ability to perform meta thinking is an indicator of intelligence.
@Diji1: I'm not claiming, nor do I believe, that I'm more or less intelligent than the OP. However, on the spectrum of skepticism, I'll admit that I'm more Scully than Mulder, because I work in an evidence-based field where claims must be scrutinised in exacting detail. People are welcome to believe whatever they want, but when they regurgitate this misinformation, I am compelled to challenge it. That's it. This weird little 'intelligence pissing-contest' narrative you've invented, is unnecessary.
Wow are you a troll?
in the same way there is no over-powered star sign or Zodiac.
I've done the Myer Brigs for realsies and its a tad more involved than zodiacs. You don't need to have met someone to tell them their zodiac reading. The myerbrigs is a personality classification at a personal level - there is no "hard science" behind it. It's a survey of a personality -from the person themselves- and then wording it in English before classifying them and providing statistical and calculated observations. They identified factors designed to encapsulate key aspects of one's perceivable personality and then used the permutations to get a full spectrum (keyword spectrum) of personalities across these factors. It is not redefining people but trying to categorize them. There's no rockets but it is science.
People see what they want to see, either inflating their ego or their desire to be misunderstood.
I guess you are one of those people too. This is exactly what I used to argue against this case as a teenager. To the exact same effect you have just attempted to classify humans into one huge group. Many humans can be considered to be "weak to suggestion" or act to whatever they happen to think or choose their personality is so that statement does stand true to some degree but this mess is all mopped up by other personality test that exist out there. Our personalities (meaning personality types) are also controlled by all sorts of factors. These can be environmentally or naturally affected at any age and can change based on these. Being bashed in the head and changing personality types as a result is perfectly viable.
Back to the topic though, the people who tend to be more flexible with their personality types are normally ones who could be classified to be at the borderline. When you take the official test they tell you that there is no such thing as "I am an introvert" or "I am an extrovert" even the classifications they give. You cannot just be one of them but the understanding is that you have a preference for introversion or extroversion etc. That "inflated ego/misunderstanding" to put it in your words are probably people who have not clearly made this definition.
If you're already using language like this:
'I'm the quiet, reserved one , who is considered to be trustworthy and wise'
I'm guessing you think you're a beautiful and unique snowflake.
I think you've gotten yourself confused this with something else here.. otherwise I see no direct correlation in the wording apart from you just trying to have a go at someone - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
The Myers-Briggs was created by a children's author and her kid
It's sad in this society that the above statement can be read in a way that it discredits the intelligence and hard working efforts of the pair. Geniuses lie in all parts of the world and some of the least talented individuals are in places with titles that give more credit than they'll ever deserve. I could also describe the creators as "Two women who were intellectually well armed for understanding humans, one with an experienced insight for understanding the minds of children". Also, the "kid" mentioned was a fully fledged adult and a career preference doesn't always reflect ones intellectual capacity. I'd give the pair a better chance at trying to classify personalities, emotions and human behaviors than a room full of rocket scientists.
Myers-Briggs has no more real-world application than a 'Which Game of Thrones Character are You?'
It's being applied in the real world, depending on how it's applied I would say it has it's benefits.
@Strand0410: Not trying to disagree, but the first three dichotomies were actually introduced by Carl Jung (the founder of analytical psychology). With the Judgement vs Perception being extrapolated by Katherine Briggs(and later Isabel Briggs Myer).
As for a children's author. You make her sound like Enid Blyton. Although she authored some fictional works, she also had a college degree, worked as a teacher and wrote articles on childhood development and education.
However, in saying that, does noone else think that it is odd (and rather telling) that Carl Jung never took the time to visit the Briggs women on his many trips to the US?
Oh wait, I think I ended up agreeing with you. ;P
Over share to the point we think u are a troll!
he's not a troll.
Not same species as me…
@StewBalls:
No no, its a recognized form of trolling.
http://guineafowl.com/board/troll.html
"Attention-seeking trolls:
This class of trolls seeks to obtain as many responses as possible and to absorb a disproportionate amount of the collective attention span."
@StewBalls: I always love reading these types of posts because by your own definition by participating in this thread … YHBT :p
Another success story for JJB :D
In some ways he shared too little, obvious questions, why were you in a superman outfit, and why did you cry?
Agree - he shares just enough to get a discussion going and keeps a lot of things private. I like you JJB. Wish you the best.
My guess is a costume party or kids party. Though I suppose it could be a weird bedroom dress up game.
I have a high pressure IT job and I've been to work in filthy trackies having wiped baby vomit off them - work emergency means drop what you're doing (or in the case of my child hand over not drop).
weird bedroom dress up game.
Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!
Well close enough….
Well in that case for goodness sake take some time to put something else on before coming into work.
It takes 2 minutes to throw on some clothes. And as for crying whether you're male or female, unless you've lost someone close or similar I'd call that a mistake. It's difficult to justify trusting someone with more responsibility if they give the impression they can't handle the current situation without having a breakdown.
I know it wouldn't go down well in my job.
Well in that case for goodness sake take some time to put something else on before coming into work.
It's a long story. A lot of it ended on here…
It's difficult to justify trusting someone with more responsibility if they give the impression they can't handle the current situation without having a breakdown.
Did I mention that we smashed our KPIs while going through a very dramatic restructuration? :) Employee satisfaction in our department is through the roof! So much so that the Powers That Be decided to disregard it. They deemed it was "unusually high", "an outlier" and that the information could not therefore be released.
I didn't cry before or during the appraisal. My eyes were probably suspiciously bright towards the end and its only when everyone was getting up and shaking hands that I blinked and felt tears rolling down my cheeks.They left and then I locked the conference room doors and bawled my eyes out.
The last time I cried must have been when my kids were born, almost 7 years ago. I didn't cry when I was injured in a horrible 'accident'.I didn't cry when we lost our baby. I didn't cry when the woman who raised me passed away. I didn't cry when my wife left me. I was called "cold","heartless' for not shedding tears at Gran's funeral.Just because I didn't, doesn't mean I didn't feel anything.
There was a lot of pent-up emotions and it all came out while I was sitting there, on the floor of that conference room.I felt empty afterwards. Emotionally-drained and I had a massive headache. Thankfully, the conference room is sound-proof.It is also close to the bathroom. My puffy eyes might have given me away though.
I went back to my department and announced the good news ( that they weren't going to shut us down) and then went home by public transport because I was in no state to drive.
No one at work has brought up the 'incident' so far.
I get trusted to write software that moves a lot of money every day. Even with all the other checks and balances in place, if I come in weepy or behaving in any other way erratically it wouldn't be ignored. Puffy eyes or an odd tear of joy wouldn't be a big deal, nor would I be embarrassed by it. But that is not how you originally presented the story.
I didn't cry before or during the appraisal.
Title of post: I Cried during My Performance Appraisal
Aside from that, I sympathise with you and I'm glad to hear you got some unexpected relief from people at work
I don't get it … How are these stories linked and why is it embarrassing?
I was a "nervous wreck" because of the lack of sleep and other things that happened the night before.
why is it embarrassing?
I cried and I'm a man.
It's good to cry. Showing our emotions is very healthy indeed. Sharing it on a message board for anyone to see is fantastic! Smile when happy and cry when sad. Peace.
So because you are male you can't cry?
No.
You're a man?
I thought you're a woman, since you talk so much
and created all these threads…
and overshare your life too much
I can't even.
…and I thought you were a minor. I still do , since you've never answered my question.I've answered at least 15 of yours. Fair's fair: are you under 18?
and why would it matter?
I am curious…
What makes you think I am a minor
or not one..
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Sorry to hear you got some bad events happening in close proximity
But shit happens..
If you want to see how bad it can get just watch theses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFUgyBvstLg
or some inspiration ppl like
-Nick Vujicic
are you sure you're not the one that talks a lot? :)
cniminc on 24/04/2015 - 13:12
@tyler.durden - can you please stop posting in this thread. Its all about AMA with scotty and you are replying to almost every post. Thanks.
"No I don't talk a lot
but I do like to ask questions.."
I think the answer is right there ^^ :)
No there is difference..
obviously you aren't smart enough to realize
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I only ask questions if I think a person has something I can learn from
so in the case of scotty, I thought he had a lot of information that I could learn from
unlike you..which I feel no need to ask anything..
==
so u don't think jar jar binks over shares his/her life too much..
Look at all the threads that has been created
Everything from his/her sex life to this current thread…
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/user/102420/nodes
I Cried during My Performance Appraisal
School holiday fun
Let's Carpe the hell out of this Diem!
I Need Make-up Advice… for My Leg
Birthday Present for a German Shepherd
'til Cheating Do Us Part
Granny Needs Speed ; Granny needs Data
Whatever Happened to 6 Degrees of Separation?
And so on and so on…
but I do like to ask questions..
especially if I can learn something from them
What exactly do you think you can learn from me? o.O
I don't know yet
Sometimes it is just interested in learning more about a person.
Eg jv
But you do over share your life quite a lot on this site
Either the stories are fake or embellish
Or it is real
Either way you way I know you are an attention seeker.
@tyler.durden: that dude's "shows" if you can call them that are like porn for people who want to feel good by living vicariously through other less fortunate people's ability to succeed. I don't really get it.
I don't really get it.
I take it that you don't game much?
Slightly off-topic but here's a slideshow of real people vs their avatar It does make you think twice about who you're flirting with online, doesn't it?
also, shouldn't you wear a spiderman suit?
wot?
I cried in a performance review once and they gave me a payrise. Sometimes it works out well. You never know ;)
So?
You are just reinforcing the inaccuracy and destructive mentality that males shouldn't have emotions.
If you accept you cried and not hide it then the next male who feels similar to you won't be afraid of judgement.
Plot Twist in Fart Club 2: Marla Possibly the Jack's 3rd ego.
That's right it means that you were pleasuring yourselves vigorously & slap your own ass cheek with that yellow latex gloves.
Imagine the possibility.
You just went full Abbott
Jar Jar Bink is Tony Abbott 2.0
Appraisal is code for = Liberal meeting
Crying = lost my job as PM
You are Jar Jar Binks - we are the ones that cry.
Jar Jar Binks is the worst character in Star Wars
I am sure many cried when they had to watch it.
Lol cried during your appraisal, well yeh slightly embarassing but just explain you have a lot going on in your life and they will get over it.
Next time you try to make someone feel better about something they've done, perhaps don't start by saying "LOL" ? :)
My mistake, apologies
LOL don't worry about it :-)
@strikerzebra, it was a joke . I wasn't offended that you loled.
Your :) isn't that convincing
His real smile is quite disarming. We need an ozb meetup. Mods?
LOL
Peh. Embarrassing stories at work. Where do I start. Worked in customer relations and a customer sent a FB msg to my work (big company, social media presence). I thought I knew the bloke so I SMS'd him and said why the F* are you wasting my time with these petty queries. Turns out he had the same name as my friend and I just looked his number up with out confirming it with other friends. Lucky he was a good bloke, rang him and apologised and he was all good. Then another time I walked in to work, still with a chronic hangover/still a bit drunk and this chick who I hated who reported to me asked if I had sent her any messages of a sexual nature on the weekend to which I replied no (this was earshot of my boss). However, not knowing the stuff you can get up to drunk or with friends borrowing phones etc I had to check my work phone history and then my phone history online to which there was no evidence of me sending anything, got her a written warning quick smart for accusing me of sexual harassment. Another time I've been sent home sick forcefully as I was still drunk at work but no one knew that, they just thought I looked terrible. Used the breatho at work and I was 3 times the limit over on a Monday. Sent me home with a laptop and away I went. This was a bad time in my life where drinking to excess was the norm. Another quick one I was working for a Mac store/centre and I was downloading "movies" on limewire and after a month I had used a lot of data in store and back in the day when billing took no prisoners my boss yelled at me in the office (open plan) saying what id be downloading and shiz, I thought it was funny but she obviously didn't. Once again this is just a small sample size. If you need more to make you feel better, please advise.
Mate, hate to break it to you, everyone knows when someone turns up to work drunk. They might not say it to your face, but they know. It is so easy to pick.
Agreed. My close colleagues knew. The upper management I don't think were so on point. Not saying I'm proud of it but it was a seriously embarrassing moment in my work life. DRINK
Could upper manangement really judge though? Don't they get a 'long lunch'?
Honestly you so right. It's just they are still drunk to think people don't know. A persons breath stinks on alcohol you can smell boos like 5-10 meters away in an office. Lol
We need a thread about fun stories at work. I have lots of those.
I like you. I bet you're a hoot to work with :)
Aww thank you that is so kind! :)
Why did you cry at your appraisal? Did you get bad news? I've learnt to take performance appraisals as the finality of your rating/bonus. Essentially put, once it gets to the point where you sit down and talk about performance everything has already been decided, you can't change it, just accept it. If you don't accept it, next year talk about it with every boss that gives you an appraisal all year long, this way you can learn what you need to do to avoid an appraisal you don't like.
Have you ever thought you overshare a little?
No offense it can be entertaining