I Cried during My Performance Appraisal

There's a whole backstory but it's one of those really hard to swallow ones: it involves an emergency call from the security team informing me that an intruder had been detected in the lab and that they would appreciate if I could get there ASAP. I do …in my superman suit.

8 hours later, I have my appraisal and I cry. One of my appraiser offers me a box of tissue :(

So what is your most embarrassing work story? Might cheer me up a little.

Thanks!
JJB

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    • +29

      It's kind of hard to explain without explaining a little bit about my job.My mentor's vision was that our 'department' should be autonomous because he firmly believed that creativity cannot be micro-managed. He retired last year and handed over the reign to me. We see ourselves as a big team, comprising of smaller teams, rather than a 'department'.Each employee works on projects collaboratively, while at the same time is given the freedom to develop new ideas. Ideas that are deemed worthy of pursuing by team members are then developed. Team are forms around projects. At the end of the project, the team dissolves and everyone moves on to join other teams of their choice. It's all very organic; very lattice-like.It's also as flat a structure as you can get. Within the 'department', there is no manager. I am just a team member and I am judged on my contribution to my team/s ( we call it 'Karma' points). This is working for us.We've smashed all our KPIs for the year.

      Unfortunately, within the bigger organisation I am considered to be the Manager of my department.I've had to deal with a lot of bs and having HR, Legal and Finance breathing down my neck and trying to micromanage my team by micro-managing me. That part of my job has been hell. It's been a constant tug-of-war, especially with HR.

      On top of that, I've had a horrible year on the personal front.The woman who raised me passed on . She had dementia , so I lost her a long time before she died but it was still hard. I've got the 'opportunity' to spend some time with my biological mother, a woman I've idolised for most of my life and she turned out to be little more than a spoiled brat. My wife, my soulmate, the only person who can keep sane in my darkest hour, has moved out. Before she left me, she had a miscarriage…and that's only half of the shitty things that have happened to me this year. It's been truly horrific. There were days when I couldn't even get out of bed.

      I asked to be demoted because I felt that I've let my team down .I was also concerned that they might decide to scrape our department and bring us back into the fold due to my lackings as a manager and my personal problems.To have had that brief taste of freedom and then having to go back into our corporate cage would have been soul-destroying for most of us. We are very passionate about what we do.

      I cried because none of that happened. HR didn't throw me under the bus. Finance and legal dept were unlikely allies, which was totally unexpected. They also carried out an anonymous survey where my team had to rate me as a manager and they unanimously stood by me. Management is giving me an extra staff (0.75, so not quite an extra staff) who'll be liaising with the other department and looking after the administerial side of things. They also looking at the feasibility of letting me move part of my team overseas so that I can be closer to my family.

      I was deeply touched by everyone's concern, support and willingness to help. But it still doesn't make it any less embarrassing that I cried :(

      TL;DR: Goes to great length to justify those tears…lol

      • +20

        As a man, i don't think you have anything to be embarrassed about. Keep ya head up!

      • +15

        Wow a hard year. Crying because something good happens at work is a good thing in my books. Just shows you have a heart and compassion. No one would see it as a weakness and if they did, shame on them.

      • +5

        Wow.. What a stressful year ..they said a man shouldn't cry in front other but sometime we need to let it out …

      • +1

        :(

      • -2

        What industry do u work for?

        • R&D

        • @Jar Jar Binks:

          In what field?

          ==

          Sorry to hear that you had a bad year..

          Do u know why your wife leave you?

          Maybe everything happens for a reason.

        • @Jar Jar Binks:

          what's randd?

        • @Gimli: Research and development.

        • @Jar Jar Binks:

          yes, anyone who google or being around would know that..

          the question is in what field?

        • @tyler.durden: It's a highly secretive field that he never talks about.

        • +1

          @tyler.durden: He's a spy but shhh!

          Jk. He's a scientist. He erm conducts scientific research. The only way I can explain it , without making it possible to track him down, is to use a sex analogy since you appear to have quite a healthy (?) interest in the subject :

          So his job is like sex: sure it may give some practical applications but that's not why they do it. I've been to visit him at his workplace a few times and you get carried away by his, and his colleagues, enthusiasm. Like sex it arouses emotions in you that you didn't know you were capable of. For brief moment, their passion become your passion:its intensity washes over you, engulfs you, swallows you whole. You become them. You see the world through their eyes…

          But after 20 30 minutes an hour or so , the experience crosses over the boundary between pleasure and pain. It becomes tedious, almost painfully so :$ But you don't want to be rude ( they are all very likeable), so you come up with all those silly excuses,"need to pick up the kids from school" , " need to go home and wash my hair"," there's this porn documentary on SBS that I've recorded last night and that I really need to watch" …. and you make a speedy exit before they can drag you into yet another lab. You run for your life.

          I couldn't work there. I doubt you could either, Tyler. May I interest you in my field of work instead? I've noticed that you already fancies yourself as a psychologist but based on your way-way-off the mark diagnostic, I'm going to assume that you're not actually a qualified one? Psychology may have been unkindly compared to a pseudoscience but I assure you that it's not. It requires a minimum [6 years education and training]. Some compassion for your fellow human beings would be good too.

        • +1

          @wicket1120: Not having a go at you or psychology, but something doesn't become a science just because it requires "X years of training".

        • +3

          @johnno07: Of course not. I'm a social worker now. I find that I have more of an impact on my client's life than I did when I was a psychologist.

        • +1

          @johnno07:
          I get a little bit annoyed when people say "psychology is not a science". Sure, don't come and cry about it when you have issues then.

          There are biological basis to a lot of mental illnesses.

        • @Banana:

          There are biological basis to a lot of mental illnesses.

          Absolutely. But isn't that a psychiatrist's area of expertise? The actual neurochemistry at work? Whereas a psychologist looks more at the behavior, and what that tends to mean? Forgive me if I'm incorrect, don't have a lot (read: any) experience in the fields.

        • +2

          @tyler.durden: R&D
          Researching Ozbargain and Developing new posts :)

        • +4

          @johnno07:
          Glad you asked that question. Yes, psychiatrists are the ones to prescribe medicines. However they aren't usually the first point of contact. People do go to a psychologist first for multiple reasons. One of it being not wanting to be given medicines.

          Take anxiety for example, a psychologist would normal approach using something called CBT, which uses the idea of positive and negative reinforcement. A psychiatrist would probably prescribed medications to the person, which have got many people addicted to.

          Disclaimer: I am not saying behavioural therapy > medication, but a lot of people are addicted to medication prescribed to them in attempt to treat their mental illnesses.

          I think going to a psychologist is great. Sometimes people just need a pair of ears and psychologists are bound by rules and regulation where clients can freely speak about themselves without being judged.

          There are lots of research going on in the field of Psychology. The reason why people don't see amazing results/breakthrough being published is because they usually look for "correlations" in things, it isn't about "this" causing "that", it is a bit of an abstract idea. It is still science as those research are conducted using the same rules as the field of chemistry,biology and other mainstream science. People had spent their whole life in the field of Psychology, without Psychology, we wouldn't be where we are today in terms of understanding animals/human behaviour.

          PS: I study neuroscience and psychology at uni so I can see psychology textbooks aren't just making crap up.
          PSS: But yes I think there are some pseudo-science going on in the "field", or they claim to be in the field of Psychology (ie hypnosis).
          PSSS: Wiki feel free to correct me if I have said anything regarding the psychologist wrong.
          PSSS: Sorry the response is all over the place, I am meant to be doing analysis for a psychology report.

        • +2

          @wicket1120:

          Hi Wiki! Re your last comment, it would be good, but it doesn't sound like we should hold our breath. The lack of psychological knowledge and the DSM is obvious. JJB is doing others a favour. Consider this: For every bit of venom he has directed at him, he is preventing the subject projecting & directing it at someone else, perhaps someone more vulnerable to that venom's effect. I agree with the expression: "In a world where you can be anything, Be Kind". Or as was said in the "Bambi" movie: "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all". Difficult sometimes but sensible and considerate nevertheless. Funny, but your description of the workplace above makes me think of Big Bang Theory. It makes me laugh, mostly because everyone thinks those guys are the odd ones, when really its everyone else that doesn't get it. People think you're crazy if you talk about things they don't understand. JJB sounds like he lives by the rule: "Do things with passion or not at all". We should all be so lucky. Glad things are looking better at your end. Have a nice weekend.

        • +1

          @Banana:

          I think this might be the most important thing:

          Sometimes people just need a pair of ears and psychologists are bound by rules and regulation where clients can freely speak about themselves without being judged.

          Thanks so much for your lengthy response. Really appreciate the impartial knowledge!

      • but they were happy tears weren't they?
        i think you should state that in the TLDR part.

      • +2

        Given the year you've had it sounds like you need to talk to a counsellor or psychologist. Talking about it in here obviously helps you but the people on here can't help. Does your work have an employee assistance program you can access as a starting point?

        • +1

          He has. He was told it was part of his grieving process.

      • +3

        (profanity) dude. Until I read about you wife I put this in the tuffen up princess.

        I dealt with my personal life issues by leaving my jobs I had. I ran. I didn't cry though. Not at work atleast.

        :-(

  • +2

    I think some Managers go out of their way to belittle you at performance appraisals - all their criticism is in a destructive manner.

    It has happened to me to the stage where 'I do not care any more'.

  • +11

    In the UK at my performance appraisal, I only received 11 pounds a YEAR pay rise, although I achieved and went beyond the expectations set for me. Holding in my disappointment I burst into tears in the bathroom! I had red eyes for the whole day.

    • +4

      11 pounds! That's an insult! I left a job because of a $1000 increase - I consider if it's less than CPI it's a demotion. It'd be better to forego a pay review - unless the aim is to insult??
      I try to be more patient now. In my current job, I get $1000 increase every year, but as a % of salary it's half what I resigned over previously :)

  • +15

    Years ago I got called into the boss's office where he proceeded to inform me that I was being fired for my poor work performance and cited examples of my poor work. As he was reeling off these examples it clicked that he was referring to someone else with the same first name as me. I asked if he had the right person. He looked at a sheet on his desk and read out the name and I informed him that I am not that person.

    He asked me to keep this incidence confidential so I went back to my work area and told everyone on duty. The manager was sacked the next day.

    • Really? He was sacked for that? No management of the issue? Although unfortunate, seems kinda minor…

      • He was not a very good manager so it may have just been his last chance he had blown. I wasn't upset by his mistake - I thought it was hilarious but obviously the company had an issue with almost sacking the wrong person - wrongful dismissal lawsuit maybe.

    • feel sorry for the guy :(
      Do u?

      • +2

        Not really. As I said he wasn't very good at his job and for whatever other reasons as well he was let go. I didn't sack him nor was I even asked if I was upset about almost being fired. Guess his bosses had reasons they didn't want him around anymore.

    • Did he always give you a hard time & bully you @ work or is he ok? If he is good I might think twice before reporting him.

      I always put myself in someone else's position. If I reckon that his behaviour is way over the line I won't tolerate him

      • It was 18 years ago maybe longer so don't recall a lot about him. I didn't really have much to do with him as he was my boss's boss as I was only a casual employee back then. I didn't report him or the incident but I think he ripped into the duty manager for sending the wrong person to him and the manager reported him for his behaviour towards him.

        • +1

          ha! instant karma.

  • +4

    FYI since we are all sharing, my worst appraisal experience was at one of my first jobs where I had just closed a deal with a major consumer electronics company for our business and passed my boss in the hallway who asked me to go see the CEO in his office now. Since I was on a high from closing that deal and I knew the CEO fairly well, I didn't think much of it, turns out he was firing about a 1/3rd of the staff that day and it was my turn. I seriously didn't understand what was going on and couldn't even say a word except OK/Yes, we were given 30 minutes to leave the premises. I was reeling over what happened for WEEKS (I was pretty young at the time).

    EDIT: The above was during the week we were suppose to have appraisals so I thought it could have been the CEO going to tell me what a great job I was doing!

    But not all was lost, after about 3 months they realized they fired too many people and asked me to come back. To which I said I would do on a casual basis of when I could fit it into my week and tripling of what I got paid per hour previously. Went on to work 3 years there basically whenever I felt like turning up (I had education commitments) which was awesome!

    • +1

      Can they just do that without proper notice and everything?

      • Do what without proper notice? Fire people? Sorry, I do mean made redundant if that makes it any better.

        • No that is exactly what I mean. What clause did they use that they could get you out on the same day? I didnt know that was legal (besides doing something illegal yourself or against company rules).

        • @lolbbq:

          I don't know if it is 100% legal, but we were all told to get our stuff and get out and if you want to chat to others that are getting the boot go to the pub across the road. It wasn't a massive company so it wasn't like we had a union or anything to baby us through the process.

          I now work for a very large corporation and if someone is quitting for instance and going to a competitor, they are marched on the same day they give notice. I assume it is due to not wanting them hanging around to potentially steal customer information and I assume what happened back in the day was the same thing. I mean if you were firing a whole lot of staff from juniors to very senior people wouldn't you want them out before they can collect themselves and do something malicious?

  • +5

    Sorry to hear that you've had such a rough year, but great to hear that you have such a supportive team at work, it is what we would all hope for.

    I probably have lots of embarrassing work stories if I think of it, but this one came to mind when I read your initial post.

    When I was studying teaching I was due to go out on one of my pracs and I was heading out to the school prior to starting to meet the class teacher. When I got there (it's a long story) I got into a minor bingle in the car park. Being quite a new driver and very car proud I was mortified and a complete wreck. I wailed for Australia in the car park. I called my parents and was so upset that I was doing the cry/hiccuping thing that you do when you've become hysterical. They calmed me down enough to compose myself and get into the school to meet the teacher.

    I found the classroom and wandered in just as the teacher was sending the kids to another lesson. She smiled cheerfully at me and said "hi, you must be Placebo, it's lovely to meet you, how are you?". That was it, I couldn't respond. I just wailed. In her face. So she left to get herself a coffee and I sat in the room wailing for a while longer trying to compose myself again.

    Not my finest first impression. Ha!

  • Comment and Vote bait again OP ..

    • +2

      what?

      did you just get bated?

      • +2

        Lol

  • +5

    If by work you mean life….
    At work talking to a friend, a young Asian man comes up to the desk clearly looking for help but too shy to interrupt us talking.
    So I say to my friend "Sarah, this lovely young man would like some help!" making a bit of a scene kind of thing, a bit over the top for a laugh.
    Sarah looks at me without saying anything at first and just replies with "she"…
    Very confused I'm asking her what she's on about.
    She then says again "she"

    For whatever reason I was unhappy with Sarah's response once I kind of clicked what she was talking about, so rather than apologise I slide over on the chair and look at him, just still kind of trying to figure out what's going on.

    As soon as the first word came out in her feminine voice, I felt like the worst person in the whole world.
    I apologised profusely to which she was very quiet and says " that's ok it happens a lot"

    • +4

      When I was a receptionist a lady came in appearing heavily pregnant and clutching at her stomach. I quickly rearranged everything to get her seen - it turns out she just had a stitch from walking up the stairs.

      • +2

        One day I was on a packed train, sitting near the door. A pregnant lady walked in so I offered her a seat. She said "no it's alright" and I replied "no I insist, for the sake of your baby".

        Turns out she was just fat.

        • Not just pretending then….

  • +1

    Nothing embarrassing more fun stories that I would definitely do again.

    I fell over at work twice in front of everyone which was awkward for the rest of the day. Sorry.

    Everyone has bad days. Don't feel alone.

  • +3

    I was once pulled into the food court of the fast food restaurant where I worked by the regional manager, who proceeded to berate me and criticize me for what she said the store manager had told her "that I had been undermining him and causing issues where other staff who now did not take him seriously" (I was 16 at the time and has worked there for 2 years, and was the longest standing non-manager at my location and was in an official leadership position)

    I responded that this manager was new and had been having some problems, but I had in no way undermined them, simply provided instruction to newer staff when it was lacking to ensure the smooth running of shifts. The regional manager said she found this hard to believe, as why would a store manager lie to her.

    At this point I was so frustrated that all the extra work I had been putting in was actually being criticised I had 'angry tears' as I tried to explain myself and asked her to speak to the other managers at the store and get other perspectives on this, as I felt I was being unfairly accused.

    A lovely older lady (70ish) then approached us in the food court and had a go at the regional manager, telling her that she did not know what I had done but surely it was inappropriate to publically shame me in this way for it and that her son was a lawyer, she then gave me her sons business card and told me to give him a call, as 'whatever she’s saying you've done, you shouldn’t be treated like this'

    The regional manager then offered me (16yo!) a cigarette from her pack and took me out to the loading bays to tell me she would talk to the other managers and get their perspective.

    It ended with me getting an apology phone call a few days later as the other managers she had spoken to said they had seen us working together, he was incompetent, I was supporting him, and without my help things would have fallen apart by now! They further said they loved working with me as I knew what I was doing and was a great asset.

    While it was gratifying to get an apology I never looked at the regional manager the same after that. I was also very angry at the way I had been treated and that it only seemed to be a mention of lawyers and not my refuting the story that had her investigate further.

    I went onto a management position with them as soon as I turned 18, but quit not long after due to overall miss-management by the senior management.

    • sounds like hungry jacks.

      • +1

        Nope.

        The company I worked for who owned many stores, went bankrupt about a year after I left though, and had to sell them all.

        I heard head office had been doing some 'creative' accounting

        Cant say I felt bad. (apart from for all the staff who got messed around because of it)

  • +2

    I just wasted 20 mins of my life…
    Give it back to me JJB!!

    • +4

      you read slowly…

  • -3

    I'm a crier but it works for me. Not at work (not often anyway) but my sister says I am the only person who could get a university degree without doing two required subjects just by crying. I do believe my powers of persuasion not just the crying did the trick - isn't that what uni is about really ,convincing people you have superior skills- if it was about the knowledge most of the time I think TAFE is better.

    On the embarassment front at work my niece ,when she first started work, told her co worker that a client was on the phone. The client was the coworkers Husbands ex wife .The co worker jokingly told my niece to tell her to f*** off and my niece being eager to please and very naive did just that. Whoops.
    P.s. sorry about your horrible year. It sounds exhaustingly stressful - hope you are looking after yourself.

  • +1

    Yawn.

  • +4

    I take it that it wasn't a good cry and that you didn't feel better afterwards?
    No?

    If so, a pity.

    Zero sarcasm .

    I genuinely envy anyone (including CGI creatures with flappy ears concealed under spiderman suits), that in any circumstance this side of someone actually dying, can still cry. Properly cry. Even a bit properly.

    In what was a very distinct year, my ability to properly cry (beyond eyes watering) pretty much disappeared when I was fifteen. I reckon that I have cried, vaguely properly, on less than one handful of times since.
    Takes a bit. I'm guessing that to not be an entirely unusual experience for men, but not to be envied, Mr. Binks; if you are at all otherwise inclined; as you appear to be; along with being a crazy internet oversharer.

    As you should well know at this point, I am far from being a heartless bastard. (well, 85% of the time, factoring in an eBay discount)
    Granted, best not at work, but if you can cry a little more easily than I can, that is a good thing.

    I particularly envy covet the very ready-access that females have to the 'Feel better after a Good Cry' feeling. I have only the vaguest recollection of that, now, and that really makes me want to cry…

    Speaking of which - maybe not unrelated, a certain moisture-laden OzBargainer (moisture gained mainly through drinking Slurpees), has just disabled her account, and not for the first time, as you and I (at one point, both, extremely worried), well know, JJB. On this occasion as a result of grabbing hold of the ends of two wrong-sticks, and then running with both of them.

    I hope that she, maybe, has had a good cry and feels better, and will at some point return, happily, and with a slightly keener perspective, and maybe an apology in her heart, even if it remains in avoidance of you and Wiki, stubbornly unstated.

    Maybe she'll return 'incognito', this time, JJB.
    Given that you're always on guard, on OzBargain, do keep an eye-out for 'radiographer radish' in the Live feed. This username has already been taken, so it won't be that!

    Made myself laugh :D

    As 'kindly' suggested by 'CVonC' above, get some sleep tonight, Jar Jar Binks :'-)

    That's what I'm going to do, too.

    • Thanks, Tas.

    • +1

      Are we talking about Le Navet Gorgé D'eau (henceforth to be known as le NGE) ? She'll be back. No need to worry.

      • +2

        I may have unwittingly ordered that dish in a restaurant, recently.

        I seem to recall something with a touch of purple, and a slight slurpée aftertaste.

        'cries'

        (Re: She
        Less 'rage', more a fit of 'pique' following mod rebuff.
        I think that she'll be fine, too.)

      • +1

        Yes she'll be back but I hope that her outburst, and resulting distress, isn't a setback in her recovery :(

        • +1

          After her attack on JJB, you did bite back quite hard, Wiki…

          Hopeful sense is that she'll be ok, despite the lioness bite.

          P.S. I'll stop riskily ordering things in French, if you stop licking faces in public. Deal? Deal.

        • +1

          @Tas: No deal. My kids are yummy: they taste of vanilla and sea salt!

    • I take it that it wasn't a good cry and that you didn't feel better afterwards? No?

      Yes. No.I don't know.

      • +1

        Um, Superman, you do realise that you can spin the Earth backwards on its axis to before all the drama happened?

        I can definitely remember you doing that, in at least one of your movies.

        As it is, having 'smashed' the Kryptonite that you Placed Internally (I don't want to know the details) (notes the appearance of Wiki in the thread), I fully understand the tears. You poor bastard.

        It could have been worse. You (and your team) (ok, I really don't want to know the details) could have smashed your nuts as well.

        Hmm, either way, I thought you were tough, Clark K.

        ;)

        • +3

          She's here…and therefore I'm at my happiest :-)

        • +2

          @Jar Jar Binks: As in 'She's here', you mean 'Lois', of course.

          Well, this is a happy development - if she's being a good girl and being kind to Clark.

          BTW, given that things have stabilised at work for you, I trust that today was at least a somewhat better day.

          Consider using the extra '0.75 of a staff' at your disposal to babysit the tyler dot tot.

          Always consider other good things (even Wiki when she's not being Lois), as a good distraction from OzBargain, when you need them.

        • +1

          @Tas:

          if she's being a good girl and being kind to Clark.

          I came over to poach his wifi, unaware of what was happening on here. I've skipped through most of it: a lot of it was painful the first time around, to relive it through his eyes would be sadomasochistic.I'm happy to report that he appears lighter, relaxed and more like himself that I have seen him in a long time:) He's got his joie de vivre back : he woke me up at 6 in the morning to go kayaking with him and the kids. I politely declined.

          Have you seen Inside Out? If you haven't, stop reading, grab your grandkid/s and run ( and when I say 'run', I mean RUN!) to your nearest movie theatre. If you're still reading, then I'm assuming that you have seen the movie. This thread reads like Headquarters , the control center inside JJB's head. Each ozbargainer is a character in his head. Beethoven is JOY :) Tyler.Durden and gamechanger are , shall we say, less Joyful? We all have critical voices in our head : we should acknowledge them and then we consciously decide not to listen to them.

          I'm always surprised at how willing he is to let strangers inside his head but adamantly refuses to see a trained psychologist. Anyway, writing about his experience and feelings on ozb appears to have been cathartic and it was free. So I can't complain. Getting ready to go kayaking. Kids and JJB are already at the beach. Have to go. Hope you're having a great day!

        • +1

          @wicket1120: Grandkids? Jesus. How old do you think I am?
          Don't answer that. Seriously - Don't answer that.

        • @Tas: You didn't bold your request , so I'm assuming that you're only joking. I thought you were 52 , with a very promiscuous son/daughter, hence the grandkids.I've now revised it to 47.

        • @wicket1120: I have time to bold, now. After a deep breath.

          Intrigued as to the basis for your assumption (that's the key), but really don't want to know that.
          Maybe a result of an early indiscretion, by me, maybe even on OzBargain, but I would prefer to not know that, either, were that the basis.

          Much like a wayward Turnip, I'm sure that I'll recover from your bite…

          P.S. Even your revision remains off, Lioness.

        • +1

          @Tas: How do I apologise if I cannot explain the basis for my assumption?

          Your thoughtful and almost fatherly advice to JJB is what led to my assumption. His father is 55 or thereabouts but he would never have made that spanking comment and the likes. So you lost a few wiseness points there :p

          I apologise if I was ever so slightly off the mark ;)

          Kiss

          and make better?

          Srly, don't know how old you are and don't care. Thanks for being a good mate to JJB. * Friendly hug

          P.s: I'll give you your wiseness points back if you can guess how old I am based on that first pic?

        • +3

          @Tas: Today was a public holiday. Amazing weather. Spent most of the day at the beach. Lois was busy working on a report on ozbargain.kids having a blast. I'm feeling much better :-)

          Re. Her age. It is a trick question. Her birthday is coming soon.

        • +3

          @wicket1120:

          Tenterhooks? Good.

          I acknowledge that I present here and maybe especially in tone in relation to JJB (good kid, means well, won't sit still for five minutes or stop spewing his entire life out on the bloody internet for shit's sake), as being a bit fatherly, but 'grandfatherly', as a perception, certainly did jar a bit.

          I didn't say that you were a million miles away from being accurate, as regards your age 'revision'. Biotch.

          I have certainly revised my perception of YOU, given your selfie.
          At least the lipstick is red.

          You can keep your 'wiseness points'. I am also a lousy judge of age, especially when it comes to women (and moreso, chimpy selfie-takers) approaching thirty, like yourself.

          Do chimps eat lemons? Rhetorical question.

          *keen suggestion that you wax and a returned friendly hug in lieu of a birthday present, madam*

        • @Tas: Wait! If you think she's under 30, how old do think I am? Considering I'm younger than her O.O Do I even want to know?

        • @Jar Jar Binks:

          Ah. You are a good kid.

          Thanks for the laugh!

        • @Tas:

          You are a good kid

          Now I feel bad. I'm actually older than her by 3 days. We were born the same year the commonwealth game was held in your part of the world.

        • +1

          @Jar Jar Binks: I know.

          You have (rather obviously) (along with just about everything else in your life) (Lol) alluded to just about everything in your life, including DJ Wiki's age relative to yours.

          Maybe she doesn't realise that?

          (You are still a good kid.)

        • @Tas: She doesn't mind… People knowing her age but she does mind the other stuff- stuff that I tried to delete but couldn't :-/ you may have noticed…

          Edit: And thanks for the 'compliment'. I'm oddly touched.

        • @Tas: He's referring to the withhold mango comment. That was cruel.

        • @Wiki: Permission to chuck a lemon at him.

          Also, chimp faeces. You know you want to.

        • +2

          @Tas:… and here I was going to be extra nice to him because he's been so good with the twins today and he's finally learned to relax and his birthday is coming up soon … But if you say chuck lemons, then I guess, it's chuck lemons.

        • It is.

        • @Tas: Nooooooooooo!

        • Take it like a man, Kiddo. You've had it coming.

        • +1

          @Jar Jar Binks:

          Picture me jumping up and down like a kid (cause I guessed the answer before you gave the hint) :)
          Now what do I win if I guess the date?

        • +1

          @Miss Dior: He could have used his ears as baseball mitts, but it sounds as if he's dead, instead ;-/

          Dangerous wiki is dangerous.

        • +3

          @Tas:

          He probably did use them as baseball mitts, but with the lemons stuck in them (assuming he is a great catch as both he and Wiki attest to) he couldn't hear what was creeping up behind him…

          By the way, I could have sworn just yesterday you turned twenty one. ;)

        • @Miss Dior:

          I sometimes wonder (only briefly) if I should choose some of my words at little more carefully, given the undoubted issues that whatshisface had to deal with when he was young. He fell on his (also flappy?) feet, but much obviously still lingers for him.

          Wiki has hit the real nerves, tonight. A lemon-scented zombie Jar Jar (try saying that three times fast - that's even a lioness-tongue twister) will be lurking around OzBargain, tomorrow.

          A little unsettling. I will be avoiding. You be careful, Miss Dior.

          … Forget 'twenty one'. I spend as much time on Youtube and Instagram, etc., as a 15 year old, which makes me a key part of Google-strategy /etcetera's wet-dreams.
          Also unsettling.
          My excuse is that all men are just boys. That's not just a cliché.

          I even think that those Budget Direct Bastards should be much kinder to Captain Risky.
          He seems like a nice-enough sort of a bloke, who's just trying to have a bit of fun.

          What's wrong with that?

          :(

        • @Miss Dior: YAY,You!!!

          Please don't have a go at guessing the date. You're too good at this game :)

        • +1

          @Tas:

          sometimes wonder (only briefly) if I should choose some of my words at little more carefully, given the undoubted issues that whatshisface had to deal with when he was young.

          He never had any problems with the men in his life. His father is great.They didn't properly meet until he was 18/19 but he's been a big part of his life ever since and the twins adore him. His Daideo (Grandpa) was austere and stern but only because he didn't want to repeat the same mistakes he'd made with his daughter. He loved JJB like his son.In fact, he thought so highly of JJB that he didn't reckon I was good enough for him. MOI! Moi with my sweet disposition, my slight French accent, my big Bambi brown eyes and my shaky "tá áthas orm buaileadh libh" ("I'm pleased to me you") greeting when I first met him and his wife:( I knew just enough of Gaelic at the time, to understand the "Is cailín álainn í!" exclamation from his grandma and I was so stoked that she liked me. Little did I know that Daideo said that I was trouble,didn't have child-bearing hips and that JJB would be better off marrying a girl from the old country :( But I did win him over, eventually, a bit like I won you over, Tas :)

          Edit:Went off a tangent there. I've been spring cleaning and found an old photo album from around that time.It brought back so many memories.

        • +1

          @Miss Dior: I am indeed a great catch ;-)

        • @wicket1120:

          He never had any problems with the men in his life.

          Thanks for the saving me the otherwise necessity of highlighting the fact that

          Women are Trouble.

          Another thing. After the Trials and Tribulations of you two on OzBargain, DO NOT expect any royalties.

          'Bambi: Bride of The Lemon Scented Undead.'

          Coming Soon…

        • @Tas: I was going to link to Bob Marley's No woman: no cry but then I realised that the song is actually No, woman, no cry. The proper use of punctuations dramatically changes the meaning of a sentence, doesn't it?

          So I'll linked to this from an aussie band, The Temper Trap instead.

          Edit: There will be lots of unexpected ( even for you) twists in that movie.We might have to fight for that PG-13 rating

        • @wicket1120: Familiar with that song (far too familiar at this point, as is often the way of even semi-pop, pop).

          A couple of songs that I am inclined to link, aren't on Youtube. :(

          Book first, movie later.

          You certainly experienced some drama the other day, Bambi.
          I will shoehorn that into the book, somehow…

          Mainly for blouse-related reasons.

        • +1

          @Tas:

          'Bambi: Bride of The Lemon Scented Undead.'

          Wouldn't that be a misleading title? I'm, after all,only a secondary character. The protagonist is JJB.

          How about we call it :

          ' A MAN AND HIS SEARCH FOR MEANING.'

          (AKA : 'A man with an internet connection')

          I'd watch that, if a coupon code for free tix was posted on ozb.

        • @wicket1120:

          I'm calling dibs on Scrooge! I want him as my body double and my stuntman. Of course, I'll do all of my explicit nudity/sex scenes. You really can't trust anyone else to do those with the same intensity and passion that you would.

          It is going to be a very existentialist movie (hopefully we can get director Terrence Malick on board). We're going to need those explicit scenes to keep the audience interested and relieve some of that gripping tension. So we're probably aiming more towards an R18+ than a PG rating.

          @Tyler.Durden, hope you can still make it if its R18+ , Buddy :)

          @scrooge, you'll get paid in Ben & Jerry's Ice cream that we got from NQR and of course, the honour of being my body double :p

          @Tas, I would have loved for David Carridine/Kwai Chang Caine to play you but unfortunately he is no longer with us :(

          @MissDior, I know so very little about you that I wouldn't presume to name an actress to play your part.Any suggestion?

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