Can I Bring Two Carry on Bags?

I'm a first time flyer so a bit worried about baggage due to the restrictions and excess baggage fees.

Flying to Japan via Jetstar and only allowed to bring one main carry-on baggage and one other small item which combined should equal 7kg.
Just wondering if I'm allowed to bring a country road bag (as a main carry-on) as well as a Herschel backpack as the small item?

Country road

Herschel Pop Quiz

Any suggestions or recommendations would be great! Thanks!

EDIT: Spoke with flight center in person they said no to bringing both country road bag / Herschel back pack

EDIT 2:
First off, thank you to everyone's help and suggestions. I've decided to only bring the Herschel backpack as a carry on to Japan, i can unload everything at the place we are staying and use it as my daily bag. If we end up buying too much i would purchase a suitcase and purchase some checked in luggage. How does that sound?

Thanks!

Comments

  • +25

    You are a monster

    • +1

      Was it something i said? D:

      • +8

        most people who take 2 items/bags onto plane cabins are normally frowned upon. I know the limit is 7kg but sometimes its about the space it takes up on the overhead

        • +2

          Am i able to put one on the overhead and the other on the floor/hold it. If it helps I'm also travelling with my partner (Both first time flyers)
          Don't think we mind if we have less room. Definitely wouldn't want to trouble others.

        • +7

          it's a hard one.. all up to the discretion of the gatekeeper in front of the boarding gates..

          when I went to Japan. I didn't see him on the flight to japan but on the flight back he was there.. making people pay for extra luggage , etc

          so all depends on luck I guess.

          may I ask, are both bags full?

          or can you put one into another and after you get on the plane, split them back into 2 bags

        • @ynot1985: Oh I'm not going until next year May. But It's my first time flying so i have so many questions

        • +5

          ask away.. I'm sure everyone here is more than happy to help

        • @ynot1985: Say if i pay for extra checked in baggage does that mean there is no size limit for the suitcase? As long as it fits the weight limit because i couldn't find any dimensions

        • as far as I know. there is no limit to the check- in luggage size but it has to be within reason. e.g. a canoe will not be allowed as its too big to fit on a commercial flight cargo area but sporting bags are ok (some with an extra cost).

          but the suitcases you buy from stores are fine.

        • @rakkihizoku: There are maximum limits to luggage but you can generally take as many bags as you need on board.

          As it's your first big trip, I'd recommend not over packing. You'll be buying stuff over there and will need room in your luggage. Secondly, you can always get stuff laundered fairly reasonabling in Asia.

          I'd also suggest you buy a cheap digital luggage scale so you can measure your luggage and buy more quota if you need.

        • @SirFlibbled: From the research i've done, its been suggested everywhere to just wear as much of the clothes you plan on bringing and almost have an empty suitcase so there's plenty of room for the stuff you want to buy.

          I was just gonna use a normal bathroom scale to weigh luggage. Guess the digital luggage scale is more accurate. Ebay ones any goods?

        • +5

          @rakkihizoku: The people who suggested that are idiot. Sure wear as much as you can as long as you're happy to a) risk heat shock b) look like a knob c) be as uncomfortable as possible and d) waste a lot of time for little result. Just pay for check in. There's no rule that both of you need to pay for luggage. My mate and I are going to Thailand next month. I'm paying for luggage there. He's paying for luggage back. 20kg between you should be plenty.

          Just pack lightly. If you buy too much stuff (happened to me in Vietnam) then just buy a cheap $20 duffle bag to check in on the way home - it only need to last the flight. Just give your stuff a good weigh a day before the flight, but extra luggage if you need it.

          The digital scales you can carry with you (they're light and small) so you can use it on the return trip as well and accurate to 50g. I bought one off Ebay 4 years ago and it's still going strong. Just get one with a strap.

        • @SirFlibbled: Oh are you able to purchase extra baggage whilst overseas? So say I'm already in Japan, 5 days into it can i still increase the limit? Or does it all have to be done before the initial flight?

        • +3

          @rakkihizoku: Yep did it in Vietnam in Jan with both Jetstar (to Singapore) and Air Asia (to Syd via KL). Bought 20kg. Bought new suit, shirts, art work + my wife went shopping. Just loaded up my booking and added an extra 10KG to my luggage and a cheap bag to get it home. The bag ripped as I was walking into the house lol.

          You need to do it before X hours before the flight. Depending on the airline (check the fare rules). With Air Asia, for example, it's 4 hours I believe.

        • @SirFlibbled: Oh sweet! I'll have a look into Jetstars time frame. Thanks for all your help!

        • @rakkihizoku: Generally purchasing extra baggage before a flight is more expensive than purchasing it with your tickets.

        • @bigticket: Roughly $50 for 20kg one way so $100+ all up

        • @bigticket: It's usually the same price until shortly before the flight. You don't have to purchase it before the flight. Usually a good 24 hours before hand will get you the cheap price.

  • They can be quite strict with the small item. It might be ok if the backpack is fairly flat and light weigt. But if the total weight is less than 7 kg, more likely than not you will be able to squeeze the back pack in the country road bag.

    • Yeah that's what i was thinking. Is it possible IF i bring both to put ie the country road bag underneath the seats or in the overhead storage space and just hold the backpack?

  • +2

    I would say no..

    Jetstar were like airline Nazis when I flew with them to Japan and they actually inspected and weighted every bag we took on the plane … even stuff we brought at the airport duty free

    • +1

      http://www.traveller.com.au/cabin-bag-crackdown-jetstar-to-i…

      My sister got a $200 fine from them in May of this year. Definitely wouldn't risk it with Jetstar.

      • Oh that sucks :c Guess that's how Jetstar gets away with cheap flights

    • Jetstar are indeed nazis.
      I fly AirAsia frequently around SE Asia with two carry on bags totalling about 20kg and they never care.

      Jetstar on the other hand tried to charge me extra because my one carry on bag was 8kg and not 7

      • +1

        That's excessive for carry on.

        • Yeah but when you're on a plane every second day for two months, it saves a lot of time not having to spend time checking luggage and picking it up.

          It's basically just two back packs.

  • +1

    As always check the dimensions allowed on the airline you're flying on, but the general rule is it has to be small enough to go under your seat - the second carry on is usually called a "personal item" like a handbag, man bag, purse, camera bag laptop - stowable things.

    so something like your Herschel might go as a carry on but that country road thing is way too big -

    • Think dimensions were: Height 56cm, Width 32cm, Depth 23cm

      Both bags fit under those dimensions wondering if i can just put one on the floor and just hold the other for the whole trip

      • Yes, once you are on the plane, you can unpack and make yourself comfortable.

      • +2

        You unfortunately can't hold luggage (or even a laptop) for take off and landing. However you can have one bag under the seat in front of you (your "personal item") and the cabin luggage in the overhead above.

      • yeah country road bags fit within the dimensions (unless they're bulging full). I've flown a few flights last year - tiger,virgin,jetstar, and qantas, and haven't had a problem with taking a CR bag as carry on. The only thing I could see being a problem is if it is overweight.

        • Oh that's good to know because when i measured it it was over the limit. I guess if you compress it a bit it would fit.

  • try it, but as you line up to go aboard they may pull you to the side and get you to check the big bag in. I have seen that done to passengers many times.

    • Oh really that's pretty scary! I thought they check it before hand though: measure it and weigh it.

      What do they check when they pull you aside?

      • I dont know, I think they crew just go by looks and think too many people with carry on, some has to be checked in.
        This was people lined up showing their boarding pass to go through the door and on the plane - so last minute.
        these were local flights not international.

  • It will also depend on how full the flight is. Could you 'hide' the backpack in the cr bag just whilst you walk on?

    • Yeah the backpack should fit in. But i don't think there is even enough room in the CR bag for everything

  • +2

    If it's your first trip do yourself a favour and buy one checked bag between you and your partner so you can relax.

    Having too much cabin baggage is a crap shoot and can be a total pain for everyone.

    I personally hate how far people push it "if I got away with it it was OK". Try boarding on time on a Monday morning Sydney flight from Melbourne, almost always late because of "two bag tossers" making the hosties run around the plane looking for room.

    • Thanks for the advice. Think from all the suggestions from everyone here (Such an overwhelming response) I'm going to ditch the two bag route and just purchase a small suitcase and make the 7kg work. Probably wear almost all my clothes on board and a near empty suitcase so we can bring stuff back as well.

  • I know you've answered yourself, but ynot1985 had the right idea. I took a local Jetstar flight about three years ago… Two carry on items. One was a backpack. The other a camera. I was so stressed trying to fit everything into the backpack - I even cut a towel in half. Then other people were taking on these huge gym-style bags and suitcases on wheels that were obviously outside the size restriction (because I knew mine was only just inside it). But yeah - try to compact everything into one bag - put things inside other things, you get the idea. Because you never know what level of inflexibility you're going to get from someone on the day.

    For example…

    The plane was nearly empty. A flight attendant said the camera was ok, then said I could put it on the floor, then said on the seat was ok, rather than underneath. Then she came back and said I should seat-belt through its handle. Then she came back AGAIN and said its long handle - remove it in case it came loose in an emergency situation and hurt someone. So it could sit on the floor without being restrainted, but not locked on a seat with the seatbelt through it without the longer strap removed - and although the seat belt was through the short handle, she's worried about the long one somehow hitting someone else. Who exactly!? There wasn't anyone within three rows of me in either direction!? AND how is the strap going to unclip itself - AND if it were on the floor, THEN it definitely would be flying around inside the plane. It was just ridiculous.

    • +1

      It's a bad situation. Most front line staff are trained to do stuff, not to understand why.

      She tried to be nice. She told you to seatbelt it though the handle and you seat belted it though the strap. You misunderstood her. She just wanted you to comply with her training as quick as possible so the plane could take off.

      …Hitting someone else. Who exactly!?

      You or another passenger in that seat on a later flight

      A loose strap rubbing against a seatbelt wears it out quicker (seatbelts are design to hold humans in clothes around a flabby part). It could fail for another customer at a later date. Or it could fail that day and smash your teeth.

      AND if it were on the floor, THEN it definitely would be flying around inside the plane.

      Under each seat is a bar to stop luggage from moving any way but backward. It's your stuff under there so I would expect you care enough about it to stop it sliding backwards with your feet.

      It was just ridiculous.

      There are around a hundred thousand flights each day. If the risk a seat belt failure from improper use was one in a million, that's 35 seatbelts failing every year. Stuff normally fails when under stress so the likelihood of someone getting hurt is high. It's not worth the risk for a budget carrier.

      Don't get me wrong. It sucks. But they are a business so they need to think this way.

  • Last time we flew with Jetstar in 2009, my husband carried his osprey backpack with daypack so he was carrying two bags and I'm sure I did as well, small handbag and a wheelie cabin bag. But back then we thought it was OK as that's what I had been doing since I was 15 years old (used to fly at least 4x a year with hand bag and a wheelie).

    But I've been hearing that Jetstar is getting really strict with cabin bags

  • Use the vacuum plastic bag for clothesto save some space and then you can put the Herschel backpack into the country road bag. Be careful of the 7kg limit.

    • But when youre coming home how do you get a vacuum cleaner?

      • They don't have vacuum cleaners in Japan?? Just ask the cleaner or reception. They're usually very helpful.

        Space bags can usually be rolled to compress contents, then sealed. I used to do that, but now just take less.

  • Unless you are on the larger size and may find it hard to buy clothes in Japan, you can buy almost everything cheaper in Japan (try Daiso and other 100yen shops, you can even find them at some of the airports). So, if you cannot fit everything in your bag, just buy them once you get there.

  • I've been flying around Australia a lot with multiple airlines. Might be different going overseas but they're were mainly concerned with the weight of checked in bags. I've been able to carry two bags - one in my hand and one on my back every time I go on the plane. And they definitely way more then 7kgs.

    • This is jetstar though. They have baggage inspectors.

  • If the small fits under your seat, then it should be ok.

  • I brought a ~30kg check- in luggage for my first time fly. I wonder if you allowed to wear extra layer of clothes and not paid for the weight

    • The airlines will allow that.

      Life might not.

  • +1
    • DAMNIT you beat me to it!!

  • +1

    Even if you can, I'd suggest you to not do it (I saw that you can't on the post). Travel light, especially with carry on baggages (since you carry it around places for longer). I've seen people bringing in large bags, it does cause a bit of hassle when you try to get off the plane (Everyone tries to go out in a line, having a lot of stuff doesn't help). It's not a major issue, but it's one of the few things I'd avoid if I am on a holiday.

    I used to travel with a large laptop bag and a small bag (that I use to keep passport and other important stuff in). I've got a lighter laptop and I started to travel light (small backpack for laptop + a small bag). It's so much better. You don't have to worry about getting the bag off the overhead storage, getting off the plane is easier etc.

    • +4

      This!.

      I travelled interstate a few weeks ago and there were so many people who had large carry-ons. This was also on Qantas so there was really no excuse for not checking in a bag.

      Please don't be that person who's massive bag for a holiday takes up half a over head locker so people like myself who are 193cm tall have to put their small backpack (the same as yours in fact ) under their seat.

      Don't get me started on those who drag a massive bag to the plane and can't put it up in the overhead locker.

      OK rant over. I'd just check one of them in if you need more stuff. Make sure you buy a checked bag online NOT at the airport.

      • +1

        Eh, I don't blame the person who does this too much (at least I try not to). They probably have their own reasons, which I do not know.
        Some people choose to migrate and moving around sometimes leaves you with stuff that you didn't expect.

        That said, travelling with a lot of stuff does take away from the travel experience, unless it's necessary, don't, is my opinion.
        It's better to ship things abroad or buy things from the country.

        I've found that carrying these in are plenty:

        • Laptop (Just in case you need to change your plan around urgently, like booking a hotel and stuff)
        • Pens and something to jot things down on
        • Phone and wallet
        • Passport and visa printout and printout of the ticket (not necessary, but I print them just in case)
        • Tissue, hand sanitiser and wet wipes (not really necessary, but why not, they don't take up that much space anyways)
        • Something to entertain yourself while flying (i.e. tablet or a book)
        • Other stuff that you do not want to check in (i.e. Portable HDD, fragile presents etc)
        • Possibly a fleece or a jumper to wear during flight

        Of course, it will change depending on person. That said, I don't see why you'd need to bring tonnes of stuff in flight. If you don't need something between when you check your bag in and when you get your bag back, you don't need to carry it around.

      • I am with you - luggage rule abusers drive me insane. Fly US domestic and you'll see where we are headed…

        • Yeah I did that this year. Absolutely terrible especially in winter when everyone shoves their jackets in the over head lockers as well,

  • Depends on airline. For domestic flights you'll be fine most of the time.

    For international flights it varies. Qantas are terrible and stick to their rules very strictly. Jetstar i imagine are just as bad.

    Other airlines like Singapore have no problem with it (even though their rules say differently).

  • +2

    Depends on airline. For domestic flights you'll be fine most of the time.

    For international flights it varies. Qantas are terrible and stick to their rules very strictly. Jetstar i imagine are just as bad.

    Other airlines like Singapore have no problem with it (even though their rules say differently).

    I've found it to be the other way round. International flights are bigger planes therefore they have bigger over head bins so you can take more.

    Domestic flights have a much smaller allowance

  • +1

    I would recommend taking less rather than more. Have a look around the internet for some packing and travel tips on what to take. You will be much more comfortable and happier with less stuff. The trip will be more enjoyable. This book and associated website may be of some help. I knew someone who travelled for leisure a lot and their rule was: wear a pair of jeans, take a pair, plus trousers and a skirt, some tops. That was generally for a world trip. You will also find a few tips on youtube from regular travellers on what to take to minimise luggage. You may find something useful here or even here. You have no idea what a pain luggage can be when travelling and you can buy what you need when you get there if you really do require something you didn't pack. Enjoy the travel. Make memories and forget about taking all the stuff with you.

    • +1

      I did 6 weeks around Europe in December-January and I took a hiking pack that weighed about 15kg. Even then, I could have taken one or two less sets of clothes to be honest.

      "Possessions are an anchor that weighs you down" - and that is never more true than when travelling.

      • +1

        I like your expression. :) I won't say it's easy to cut down on stuff and leave it behind, so I congratulate you on carrying so little. It must have made for an enjoyable trip. It's the different climates that raises questions of what to take. Toiletries and even one pair of shoes take too much room. I think it's about knowing yourself and your priorities so well that you can discard what doesn't support those for your trip. I use another expression: "There's a reason they're called possessions - because they possess you". There is a lot to be said for a minimalist lifestyle.

  • I find budget airlines are getting strict recently. If you think it is too much, it probably is. You risk getting told off and not to mention paying through your nose if you are over the limit.

    If it is not too much money, it could be worth buying checked baggage so you can travel comfortably

  • +2

    Travel light, have less bags and enjoy your trip. I personally hate having bags carried by hand.

    I dont know how long your trip is for but for my recent 11 day Japan trip, my wife and I had 1 checked in bag between us weighing 16kg and 1 on. Without the hassles of extra bags its much easier to get around especially when getting on and off packed transport.

  • +1

    not sure about jetstar, but AA never checked my bags. I have always carried one backpack and one quite a big cabin luggage. they never bother to check. but since its your first trip, please don't trouble yourself up. not worth the hassle. just give em another 50 bucks so you could travel in peace and buy whatever you want there and bring em home. why bother for that fiddy.

  • I know there was one occasion when they actually weighed my handbag (but didn't charge me excess fees even though combined was definitely over 7kg, they just didn't say anything lol), but on the last two occasions, I traveled with one carry-on and a (admittedly rather massive) handbag and they only weight the carry-on. Sadly, they weren't Jetstar, and it may also vary depending on the person checking you in.

    The limit -should- be 7kg per piece of luggage, not combined. Buy a small scale and weigh your stuff, make sure it's under.

    Nowadays I prefer traveling with just carry-on on the way there, then checking in that carry on and possibly either buying another bag or packing an empty one in on the way back.

    Anyway, hope you have fun!

    • I was thinking of doing that, just bringing a carry on to Japan and buy a suitcase there if i end up shopping too much

      • +1

        It's definitely an option, but just consider it might not be as easy as you think to get a suitcase. When you need something, suddenly none of the shops you see are selling them, or nothing is a bargain. XD But if you actually do need another suitcase, know the local prices are alright/where to get some, then it's alright, though. :)

        • In my experience on many trips to Japan, accommodation often have bags left by previous guests, which they would love to give away ;-)
          Japanese are usually almost far too helpful.

  • I've done Japan twice. Both in Nov/Dec so Winter. Both with Jetstar, and they hawk you with luggage weight and size so don't risk it.

    My 2nd trip, 10 days travelling, I travelled with one carry-on Country Road bag. 1 jacket, 1 jumper, 3 t-shirts, 1 trackie pants, 1 jeans, 1x shoes, 3 socks. Personal stuff like deo/brush/paste/shampoo I bought it at the local supermarket so saved myself the hassle of security checks of liquids etc and luggage space. You might think that skimping hard, but it wasn't. I had still over packed. Why?
    Because I caved in and ended up shopping within 2-3 days and bought a few extra jeans/shirts/jumpers - so suddenly may baggage size just doubled. I had to buy check in luggage on the way home though, but fortunately I shared it with my 2 other mates and got a box to pack excess gear.

    Worst thing to push around is a suitcase in these countries, especially when elevators and stairs are narrow and small.

    Have a good trip.

    • I'm going towards end of May so i believe that's the end of Spring? How's the weather like then? Shirts and shorts?

      • I went end of May this year…

        its hot and humid

        maybe the odd occasion you might need a jumper at night, but overall, it's almost summer weather

        • Oh so t-shirts and shorts?

        • @rakkihizoku: you'll need comfortable flying clothes which will double as your "cool weather" clothes. These will be the bulkiest clothes. And then, yes shorts and t-shirts.

  • I was planning to buy PC case on the way back with domestic flight as most local PC case price ia ludicruous due to monopoly. Is that possible to bring full tower case as a check in luggage with 1 backpack?

    I will put the backpack inside the case when i check in? Do you guys reckon this is a good idea ?

    • If you have a lot of clothing, you probably could be able to check the case in (make sure you wrap the entire case with bubble wrap and clothing, get the "fragile" sticker when you check the baggage in etc). Hmmm, that said, I don't think you can get rid of the risk of it being damaged. Also, if it is one of those cases with power supply attached to it (I'd assume it isn't), they might check it to see whether it is something suspicious (I've seen people being called after checking in because their bag contained something suspcious).

      Why not buy it and ship it to Australia when you are at wherever you are planning to go to?

      • Fk me, i mean the carry-in luggage not check in. Sorry bout that

        • +1

          Carry in probably would be worse. I can't imagine a bag with full sized tower fitting into the overhead nicely.
          You'd probably need to take out during the security check (it'd be worse if it comes with power supply).
          I've seen someone carrying in a GPU from Korea to Australia, but that was during early 2000s, not sure how hard it would be not.

          I'd personally not do it. I'd rather ship it over.

        • @Oversimplified:

          Good idea, too much incovenience.
          People will be glaring at you especially if the flight is fully seated. Not sure if its from rural to SYD to, maybe plenty space in the cabin
          But still, too many drama and trouble.

          Cheers for the advice m8

        • +1

          @rodinthink: np :P I frankly found that domestic flights to be more stringent with the carry in luggage (I assume it is because of limited space). Anyways, yeah, just ship it forward or something, that'd be much easier.

  • Only if you travel with infant… You can claim the extra bags are for the baby…

  • +2

    For your sanity and enjoyment of your holiday, it would be best to pay for the check in luggage now before the flight. Trying to do a dodgy and save $100 is not worth it. How much is your flights and hotel cost add up? How much is your time ie annual leave worth. The amount of worry and asking on this forum, how much time have you spent? The stress during departure and the days leading into coming home, will make you ill. The penalty for overweight luggage is very expensive in the $200 to $500 mark. I have so often seen budget travellers trying to save a penny but ended up costing many pounds at the check in counter. Plus, trying to carry or drag excessive baggage around the airport terminal waiting for your flight departure can be mental and physical straining. If you have shelled out for the holiday, do what is needed to make it a stress free and enjoyable one. Isn't this what a holiday meant to be? I am speaking from my experience as a very frequent traveller both domestic and international.

  • most country road tote exceed carry on dimensions of 56cm x 36 cm x 23 cm. So not just an issue about the 7kg weight. sure most flights if you're a bit over the dimensions doesnt matter (esp for flexible bag like that), but something to be aware of.

    best thing to do if close to any limits, if clothing is otherwise taking up most of your space - put on a fair bit of clothes just as boarding starts (toilets or wherever) then once on the flight, take it all back off and put it in the backpack.

  • One other matter you will need to consider, if you try to carry on board most of your luggage contents, it will likely include cosmetic, personal hygiene items, perfume etc. There is a 100ml liquid rule that will see most toiletry items exceed this limit. It will be confiscated at any international depart scanning and you must consider the replacement costs of these items. This will include liquor purchased at an Australian port duty free (going out), which is a big no no when you try to carry this with you back to Australia (coming back) even if the packaging is not broken. Check in all luggage, have a single small carry bag and the experience in the airport terminal will be pleasant and sweet.

  • -1

    nope. They'll turn you around.

  • +1

    Hi, rakkihizoku.

    When baggage was $20 each way, it didn't matter so much. In my $249 return booking, baggage is a minimum of $45 each way. As it is an avoidable expense, it's worth considering alternatives.

    Everything depends on a few factors… & there's no simple answer to your questions ;-)

    How long you are travelling (you can travel light for a few days, but many can't manage a month)?
    What season & where (summer is light weight, winter bulky & heavier, Hokkaido is usually cold & Okinawa hot)?
    Will you be based in a few places for a while or constantly travelling (home comforts vs light for easy travels)?
    Do you need special clothes etc to suit your lifestyle (bulky sports or snow gear, clothes for dining out or clubbing, many pairs of shoes to dress up, lots of cosmetics or similar)?
    What type of traveller you are ('risk taker' willing to buy the local toothpaste & clothes or bring what you are used to from home)?

    In general, women I meet say they absolutely can't travel light like I do (cosmetics, shoes, clothes, hair drier etc) & some men can see it as a challenge to go as light as possible ;-)

    So everyone tends to advise based on their own preference & style.
    Some will carry too much, others the bare minimum. There is no correct answer, despite some comments saying only their way is correct ;-)

    You may have already read my comments about travelling light & frugal in the recent Jetstar Japan deal. I've spent up to 9 months a year for over 10 years travelling - always cheaply when possible.

    I started with 25kg luggage. Having larger luggage usually meant I threw in items I 'might need'. I soon learnt I rarely if ever used those items, so left them out. The hassle of travelling with too much gear, storing it, and bring it home was not worth the bother & fatigue for me.

    By year 2, in Europe I was down to a 10kg carry on limit & wore a few layers of clothes through check in. I bought a backpack that met carry on requirements, and sometimes still use it.

    I've travelled many times to Japan with Jetstar. I've posted many comments over the years about the joys of travel in Japan.

    As far as more than 1 carry on bag… Things have tightened up since late last year with Jetstar. In November, staff checked for larger & multiple carry on bags while people waited in departure lounge on my flight to Tokyo.

    I was carrying on 2 bags (backpack that meets size requirement & small day pack) & had no problem or comment. My luggage met size & weight requirements.

    The previous year, as staff were not sure if my tent poles would pass security (I was carrying on full camping gear in the 10kg limit), I posted them on.

    This trip (4 weeks in April), I'll take 1 small day pack, with possibly a drysack attached beneath. That has become my optimal baggage size for trips up to 6 weeks. Weighs less than 7kg, & can be as light as 3kg with all gear except clothes I'm wearing.

    I wear 2 layers of light clothes on (slim fit pants covered by looser convertible pants that convert to shorts, t-shirt with shirt & jacket) - no one has noticed my extra clothes. Layering means you can strip down on plane or keep on for warmth.

    Liquids are a special issue. I carry on a 30g free sample tube of toothpaste, 100ml bottle(s) of my usual shampoo, body wash etc. I buy my requirements at local shops.

    Flying back to Australia, bag weight is checked by non Jetstar staff at check in & never had an issue.

    The best thing about travelling light is the freedom of movement. I travel in some areas seen as more remote, where foreigners are very rare. No one pays me much attention as a 'tourist' as I look as if I am just our for a walk. Baggage fits in easily at the cheapest coin lockers for storage. And the Japanese respect my frugal & minimal ways. The more I save, the longer & usually more interesting my travels.

    But it's not for everyone!

    So as long as the second bag meets the requirement of about the size of a handbag, there should be no issue.

    I keep a small bag under seat in front, pack spare clothes & towel in soft bag as pillow, & the little that remains in daypack goes in overhead.

    Scales are an extra & unnecessary weight on flights there & back, and then everywhere you travel in Japan. That's a lot of unnecessary carrying (even if small & light) to use once before flying home.

    Accommodation usually have bathroom & more accurate scales, as I outlined in my advice in the Jetstar deal. I brought back so many old kimono, wearing through check in, but storing in locker during flight.

    But baggage can be added for return flight if needed. Handy to bring back alcohol that sells cheap in supermarkets - mark with fragile stickers!

    It's your adventure, so work out what suits you.
    Enjoy yourself :-)

    • If this helps:

      I'll be travelling for 12 days in Tokyo starting from the 20th of May, so towards the end of Spring i believe? (Correct me if i'm wrong)

      So i'm not to sure what the weather would be like around that time

      • Does it help you?

        Questions were for you to determine your needs in travel, what type of traveller you are. Only you will know what you need. It's all part of the journey, Grasshopper :-)

        First thing is a search of weather - quite a good time of year. That is what I replied to you in the Jetstar Japan deal ;-)

        12 days is a short trip, but what you pack depends on what you want to do.

  • +1

    Your plan sounds lovely.

    I usually carry around a hip sack of sort on top of a backpack, because that way, I can keep my eyes on the important stuff and have access to them instantly (i.e. Passport, Boarding Pass (I've managed to lose one at one point, it was an international flight too :P), Pen, Note, Cash etc). When you want to travel light but don't want to leave passport and stuff, it comes handy as well.

    Make sure you take a pen or two, I found that many countries that require some paper to get into, i.e. arrival card of sort, usually end up with people waiting for a pen. Last time I've been to Japan, they had an arrival card of sort (it has been few years since then though). Having something to jot things down on can come handy as well.

    Also, my dad usually put few plastic bags or few ziplocs for carrying stuff around (i.e. laundry, wet stuff, toiletries, etc). You probably could grab hold of them in Japan, but they don't take up much space anyways.

    • Good tips.
      A pen is important for paperwork on international flights. I often wrap some tape (duct or sticky) around the pen in case I need it. Zip lock bags are light & very handy. Those are in my carry on bag, always ready for the next flight.

      My standard trousers for travel zip off as shorts. Pockets are deep & have extra 'secret' zippered pockets - very handy for wallet & passport & each can hold a 8" tablet. Great for storing gear for boarding cheap flights ;-) Bought a stack of these quick drying outdoor pants for $20-30 each on a trip to London.

      Teamed with light weight thermal underwear, I'm ready for most weather. Umbrellas can be found free at stations in Japan. People leave them for the next person.

      Keeping your passport safe is vital. In Japan you are required to have it on you at all times. After a late night in Kyoto, I forgot it was in my clothes when doing my washing :-( It recovered after drying, but caused problem every time I returned to Oz.

      I have been asked for my passport only once in Japan (apart from accommodation etc) - on a tiny island. The local policeman was so stunned to see a foreigner, he did a u-turn & had to think what to do next… "Passport!". He was happy after that & later checked on me camping beside a waterfall that plummeted into the ocean.

  • Ultimately, Jetstar rules apply, so consult them rather than any advice here.

    Jetstar answer to your question about 2 larger bags - no.

    But 2 bags should be ok if you meet the following rule… if one is handbag size:

    one main item (56cm height 36 cm width x 23 cm dimension)

    and one other small item

    with a total combined weight of up to 7kg.

    Small item includes only 1 of:
    Handbag, pocket book, or purse
    Umbrella
    Suit
    Approved duty free (Alcohol is generally cheaper in shops in Japan)

    Jetstar were vague about what size a handbag can be. Others & I have taken on small daypacks to Japan under current rules.

    Bag size can be tested in size guide before check in & may be tested by staff at departure gate.

    Staff approached people with more than 1 bag on my Japan flight in November & asked them to repack into 1 bag or penalties would apply. I asked if my backpack & small daypack were ok - yes. Have never seen any testing of size or weight, but check in staff would likely weed out recalcitrants.

    The decision of what is allowed onboard (size, weight, number of items) is up to Jetstar staff at boarding gate.

    It's mainly to ensure faster turn around time, not miss departure slot (penalty applies), & increase profits. Passenger comfort & safety with large or heavier bags is down the list.

    Mythbusters found a big increase in loading time with even a few people blocking aisles while stowing bags in overhead lockers! (Why I board last)

    These rules may be strictly enforced
    If bag needs to be placed in hold, there is a $160 additional charge on each international flight. That's a lot of sushi!

    So carry light & small, or add 15kg min baggage charge (lowest fee is $45 each way Cairns-Japan).

    I've never had any problem with carry on only - over many Jetstar flights to Japan, even when carrying a tent, mat, sleeping bag, stove, hiking boots, etc :-)

    • with a total combined weight of up to 7kg.

      that's pretty (profanity), considering the empty weight of a travel back pack and a message bag combine is probably, 1-2 kg…. I often fly air asia to Thailand, carry on only, never had an issue with a slightly heavier nag, shit and my camera bag often gets close to 7 kilos alone

      • Yes, AirAsia is far more lenient in enforcement, but from past trips I seem to remember rule being similar within Asia.
        Each guest is allowed one piece of cabin baggage AND 1 laptop bag OR 1 handbag on-board. The main cabin baggage shall not exceed 56cm x 36cm x 23cm and does not weigh more than 7kg
        So much the same, except weight is not combined. Plus laptop is ok & not included in 7kg.

  • Tips for light travel - the Rule of Threes After a lot of travels, many come to realise the same simple ideas - travel light.

  • They cut you some slack if you've got a brood of young kids. So maybe bring some along for the ride ;)

    • And you board first.
      Wonder if you could get paid to provide an international child care service on your holiday ;-)

  • Good idea! I only bought a backpack and bought everything I needed from Uniqlo. On the way back we couldn't really justify a suitcase/bag for one trip so just got a large card board box from a shop and taped it like crazy, worked a charm.

  • -1

    Reminds of this guy who got refused two bags and decided to wear all his clothes onto the plane to save the $90 surcharge. It did not end well.lol

    http://m.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/ls-celebrity-news/si…

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