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36V 500W 26inch Electric Bicycle Front Wheel Kit $159 + Free Shipping (Was $225) @ Voilamart

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36V 500W 26inch Electric Bicycle Front Wheel Kit $159 + Free Shipping (Was $225) @ Voilamart
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Associatedmelodyzz on 23/02/2016 - 15:13 voilamart.com (1313 clicks)
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This Electric Bicycle kit (not complete kit) includes everything needed (except battery) to convert your standard bike into a top-of-the-line performance electric bike, which delivers unequaled performance and reliability. You’ll be out cruising along at 25-35km/h without a sweat!

Now it has dropped $66, we never had it so cheap.

Note:

Pick up Available in NSW. Welcome to email us for details: [email protected]
CE Approved.
Battery NOT INCLUDED.
1 Year Warranty for the Wheel
6 Months Warranty for the Accessories

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  • SnoozeAndLose on 23/02/2016 - 15:15
    +9

    Where do I get the battery?

    under Australia law you will need to cover at least 12 months warranty not 6 months.

    • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 16:53
      +3

      Batteries of all shapes, sizes & specs are available elsewhere. They're usually not included because the battery chemistry and capacity are all dependant on your needs and budget. If like me you only need to travel a short distance (10km round trip to work & back) and at low speeds (20kph average) then you really only need a relatively dumb, small battery pack which wont cost you much, say a couple of hundred or even less if you're willing to DIY one using SLA batteries. If you expect to travel 50kms+ at full speed and weight is an issue and money isn't a problem then you'll be looking at a cutting-edge LifePO based packs costing $1000+.

      • SnoozeAndLose on 23/02/2016 - 17:31
        +2

        Back to the question where are which battery to buy for this "KIT"?

        • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 17:34
          +1

          Tamiya model kits never came with glue or paint…. but if you are being serious then what distance and speed are you expecting to do?

      • woteva on 24/02/2016 - 00:01

        Could I power it with a few "AA" cells ??

    • llama on 23/02/2016 - 18:47
      -8

      under Australia law you will need to cover at least 12 months warranty not 6 months.

      Show us that law. Prove it.

      Oh, and I mean show us the wording of the law that states 12 months or any particular time period.

      Thanks in advance.

      Where do I get the battery?

      From a battery shop.

      • garage sale on 23/02/2016 - 18:56

        There isn't a set warranty period under law because somethings wear out in less than 12 months ….it's faulty materials and workmanship ….. like lifetime warranty …..expected life of product not your life time …..etc

        • llama on 23/02/2016 - 19:09
          -7

          Yes, of course. We all know there is no such set warranty period stated in law.

          So I am questioning why "loveBargain15" would make such a strong yet erroneous statement - they need to withdraw it, or prove it.

        • llama on 23/02/2016 - 19:50
          -6

          @llama:

          Ahhh - so now I am being negged for stating facts about Consumer Law?

          ROFL, what a joke.

          If I am wrong, then prove me wrong in public… don't neg me so my comments don't show up.

        • IanK on 24/02/2016 - 10:17
          +1

          @llama:

          I agree with your statement about there not actually being anything specifying a length of time for warranty periods in Australian Consumer Law, which are separate from the automatic guarantees that apply "for a reasonable time depending on the nature of the goods or services. ".

          I reckon you're being negged for writing it in such a way that makes you sound like an asshat, not for being correct about stating the facts (which you are correct about).

        • llama on 24/02/2016 - 19:43
          +1

          @IanK:

          I reckon you're being negged for writing it in such a way that makes you sound like an asshat

          Ahhhh, I never considered that.

          I deal with these kinds of matters all the time (in my full time job) and the spreading of misinformation is a major issue with forums like this.

          After reading the comment above that "under Australia law you will need to cover at least 12 months warranty not 6 months", it leads to an impression that it is true, especially when nobody takes the OP to task about it like I did.

          On Ozbargain and Whirlpool, the "12 months warranty" is pretty much an Urban Myth that has become "pseudo fact" due to people regurgitating the erroneous statement and posting support of other posters who also are posting totally incorrect information about Consumer Guarantees and Manufacturer's Warranties.

          You will note that the comment above now has NINE positive votes. Which baffles me since the people who voted pos are helping to propagating a lie. Each of then might even post a similar comment in other places, since it must be true (coz it got heaps of upvotes). Which is crazy because accurate information is easily found, very clearly worded (in fact sheets, as well as the law itself) and well… the truth.

          Apart from the spreading of misinformation, making such a definitive statement like that (implying that a warranty offered is illegal) makes the retailer look shonky and unfairly affects their business.

          Really unfair and nasty stuff - what kind of asshat would do that? So when I phrased my response, I honestly thought it would be best to use the same kind of tone :-)

        • IanK on 25/02/2016 - 10:11

          @llama: That's true… The dissemination of misinformation is annoying and can harm people's businesses. It's important to call out these sorts of things when they arise. But if it's done out of ignorance, rather than malice, I think the tone should have been instructional, rather than confrontational.

          Also, the comment about the battery thing wasn't particularly useful either so that might not have helped with the negging.

          For other ozbargainers: People generally get confused with consumer guarantees and manufacturers warranties which are different things altogether; there's no specific timing mentioned in Australian consumer law for either of those and is dependent on the item/service purchased, and expectations of how long it should last for (which are affected by the price and quality):

          "Your rights under the consumer guarantees do not have a specific expiry date and can apply even after any warranties you’ve got from a business have expired." - potentially even better than one year :P (https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees…)

  • [Deactivated] on 23/02/2016 - 15:22
    +1

    It's not really a kit if you still need to buy things to get the 'kit' to work!

    • llama on 23/02/2016 - 18:57
      -7

      You obviously are having trouble understanding the concept of a "kit".

      This is a "Electric Bicycle Front Wheel Kit" so you don't need to buy anything to get it to work. It contains what it describes.

      It obviously doesn't include any other things, since only the assembler could possibly know what those might be. Furthermore, the whole idea is for those things NOT to be included, so that the assembler can make a choice about what to use.

      • [Deactivated] on 23/02/2016 - 20:11
        -1

        This is a "Electric Bicycle Front Wheel Kit" so you don't need to buy anything to get it to work. It contains what it describes.

        Where does the electricity come from? It says Electric? You NEED to buy a battery to make the thing work. It doesn't contain everything one would assume would be in such a 'kit'.

        You obviously are having trouble understanding the concept of a "kit".
        And
        Furthermore, the whole idea is for those things NOT to be included, so that the assembler can make a choice about what to use.

        Definition of kit as per dictionary.com

        " noun
        1.
        a set or collection of tools, supplies, instructional matter, etc., for a specific purpose: "

        It appears that you are the one who has trouble understanding the concept of a 'kit'. The purpose of a 'kit' is a pre-selected quantity of items to suit a specific purpose to get someone started without having to do their own research ensure everything they buy is compatible and will meet a specific purpose - as per definition. Without said item (battery) this 'kit' does not subscribe to meeting its intended purpose, that is, electrifying the front wheel of a bike.

        • llama on 23/02/2016 - 20:57
          -4

          Where does the electricity come from? It says Electric? You NEED to buy a battery to make the thing work. It doesn't contain everything one would assume would be in such a 'kit'.

          Not sure how you can find this confusing… This kit contains everything that it states is included. Some people might NOT NEED to buy a battery to make it work, if they already owned one.

          Without said item (battery) this 'kit' does not subscribe to meeting its intended purpose, that is, electrifying the front wheel of a bike.

          Of course, exactly as it states. This "kit" doesn't include the front wheel, nor the bike either. Yet both of those things are ALSO needed in order to allow this "Electric Bicycle Front Wheel Kit" to meet it's intended purpose.

          Furthermore, if some battery was included then it might never "meet it's intended purpose", since the battery required is dependant on all manner of individual circumstances. Any included battery might be totally useless for the majority of potential buyers!

          Your confusion seems to be a combination of some strange assumption of what constitutes a "kit", together with a misunderstanding about what this kit includes (even though it is clearly stated). It is NOT a "complete kit to create an electric bicycle", and nowhere does it even suggest that it might be.

          Consider this http://shop.coles.com.au/online/national/old-el-paso-burrito… dinner kit from the supermarket. That kit doesn't include the chicken, beef or whatever meat, nor the oil or water to cook it with, nor the cheese to sprinkle on top, nor any of the vegetables. All those things need to be purchased so that it can to meet it's intended purpose… yet that doesn't mean that it's not a "kit".

          LOL, why am I bothering with this?

  • Merlict on 23/02/2016 - 15:23

    35km/h
    I'm guessing this won't be allowed on bike /foot paths, and would require a licence?

    • 2ndeffort on 23/02/2016 - 16:22
      +3

      In Victoria it is against the law to ride on footpaths if you are over the age of 12, regardless of the type of bike you are riding, only exception is if you are supervising other kids on bikes and they are under 12. Also 35km/hr isnt crazy fast for a bike, the bunch i ride with hits 35km/hr+ regularly on flat roads and maybe slight hills, we normally do around 70km/hr+ coming down steep hills. We dont ride e-bikes, just regular road bikes but I have ridden occasionally on bike paths at that speed (I normally stay on the road and avoid bike paths partially for the reason you are mentioning though).

      The advantage of this thing would be to make hills easier on your existing cruiser bike or hybrid. I cant see too many serious sporting cyclists swapping out their Zipp 404's for one of these (Zipps are expensive carbon wheels).

    • Spam Service on 23/02/2016 - 16:25
      +2

      I think it changes from state to state, but I know in Tassie you can't have anything more than 250W without registration. I doubt you'll ever be caught, but they're the rules.

      • macrocephalic on 23/02/2016 - 17:18

        It's 200w in QLD IIRC.

        • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 17:21
          +2

          200W for 'throttle only' and 250W for a 'compliant pedalec': http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Registration/Registering-vehicles/… Good to see all those cops out & about measuring eBikes with their portable Dynos (tic).

        • NosDan on 23/02/2016 - 18:47

          @SteveAndBelle:

          Good to see all those cops out & about measuring eBikes with their portable Dynos (tic).

          the one person i personally know about had his bike confiscated and tested. no need to have portable dynos. he also wound up with $2500 in fines and loss of car licence

      • NosDan on 23/02/2016 - 18:45

        more than 250W without registration.

        and unless tehy have changed the rules you can not register a bike in part because it dosnt comply with ADR's

        I doubt you'll ever be caught

        i personally know of one person who had and wound up with loss of car licence and around $2500 in fines

  • TightAssDrake on 23/02/2016 - 15:23

    Worth it?

  • merc250 on 23/02/2016 - 15:32

    What's the benefit of a rear wheel drive compared to a front?

    Where can we buy batteries for this?

    Guess it is illegal to use on the roads despite being pedal assisted

    • mycke on 23/02/2016 - 16:09

      Anything over 250W is not street legal in most states.

      • effgee on 23/02/2016 - 22:21
        +1

        the trick the is to power it with an 18V battery instead of 36V…which opens up lots of possibilities. 909 or Ozito powered bike, anyone ?

        • woteva on 23/02/2016 - 23:56

          Ryobi One+

    • Rod71 on 23/02/2016 - 16:11
      +3

      Cant do fishtails with FWD

    • RockyRaccoon on 23/02/2016 - 16:23
      +1

      Easier to retrofit, even putting a tyre on the rear wheel takes more. You dont have to go thru trouble with gear hub etc.

    • 2ndeffort on 23/02/2016 - 16:23

      I think the reason this is FWD is because the cheap design does not have to take the gearing system into consideration. if this was a RWD setup it might have to work with a range of different gearing setups, cheaper and easier to avoid the whole thing altogether and make it for the front wheel.

      Advantage of a RWD system would probably be traction as most of the weight is over the rear wheel.

  • bargaino on 23/02/2016 - 15:33
    +6

    10kg without battery?! I guess that explains why you need a 500W motor!

    convert your standard bike into a top-of-the-line performance electric bike, which delivers unequaled performance and reliability.

    Top of the line !? for $159? Bollocks, its cheap chinese bottom-of-the-barrel junk and you know it.

    I'm looking for some sort of booster for hills, ie. high torque, low speed, with regen brake, to use a pair of Li-Ion powertool batteries.
    But not if its going to add so much weight.

    • TightAssDrake on 23/02/2016 - 15:36

      How much for a decent one? Looking to get one for my bike.

      • bargaino on 23/02/2016 - 16:05

        Last I looked, at least $1k for a complete kit including "water bottle" style battery, for a light and efficient system.
        Have been hoping it will come down soon. Lots of talk on kickstarter etc.

      • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 16:10

        Decent complete & road legal kits with local support start at around the $730 mark including everything you need… like this for example: http://dillengerelectricbikes.com.au/electric-bike-kits/250w…

        I fit one of these to a friends Commuter bike a few years ago. It worked really well initially but something started to fail intermittantly after a few months. Unfortunately due to the distance between the rider and the shop and the fact they didn't own a car and the fact that the shop wanted to blame everything other than their product it took far too long to get resolved BUT it didn't stop the bike from working so it's wasn't too bad plus once the problem was discovered and the problem was solved (replacement ESC) everything was fine again. They still ride it every day and it's now well over 2 years old. Great little kits if that's what you're after.

        • Jackson on 24/02/2016 - 07:50

          I know this is a suburb justice question but how easy was it to fit? Also do you think the instructions were easy enough to understand for someone who knows nothing about electronics? (I do happen to know a bit, but I am trying to gauge the difficulty)

        • SteveAndBelle on 24/02/2016 - 08:18
          +1

          @Jackson: Very easy to fit and could be done in 15 minutes by anyone who knows their way around bikes but for a first-timer I'd recommend putting aside a good 2-3 hours just to ensure you get your head around it all. You will need a couple of bike-specific tools including a Crank Puller and a Bottom Bracket tool however these aren't expensive and are good to have for future maintenance anyway. Mine didn't come with instructions however there are plenty of guides and YouTube videos around that are better than any single guide. This is probably one of the better YouTube vids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK_VHxYjDRk&index=6&list=PL8… but search 'bafang bbs02' on Google and YouTube and you'll find hundreds of other results.

          So yes, mechanically it's all quite easy as seen in the above video. Electrically it's also very simple as all cables are custom made and everything just plugs into everything else. The only raw electrical connection to make is that of the battery so depending on your skill level you may need assistance there. Not difficult at all but best not to screw it up either ;) Feel free to PM me if you need assistance and I'll try to help but as the Bafang kit is becoming a new unofficial standard then you should be able to get all the info online.

        • Jackson on 24/02/2016 - 23:27

          @SteveAndBelle: sounds fairly easy then, although I know less about bikes than I do about electronics. Thanks for the in depth reply. What's the range BTW?

        • SteveAndBelle on 25/02/2016 - 08:22

          @Jackson: Range is dependant on the capacity of the battery pack plus the terrain plus how much effort you're willing to put in with your own leg power. The motor kit could literally continue running 24/7 (within reason) as long as you keep power to it. A VERY rough guide… a 5Ah pack might get you 10-20km so a 10Ah pack should get you twice as far. Add a few steep hills and that range reduces but add your own pedal power and the range increases so it's a very difficult question to answer.

    • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 15:58
      +2

      Have a look into the Bafang BBS02 kits guys. I just converted a Commuter for my daily transportation to & from work and love it! Best bit about a Bafang BBS02 is that it's mid-drive so you can still take advantage of your gearing plus there's no hassle if you get a flat or whatever as the wheels just come off as they always did. Not cheap at around $700 excluding battery but compared to other kits I've installed for friends it's very decent indeed. Gets me to work without breaking a sweat so I don't even need to take a change of clothes or have a shower etc.

      Abide by your road/path rules, stick to 20-25kph max. to let the elite Lycra set pass you at their 40kph or more (yes, even on pathways full of pedestrians!) and you wont upset anyone.

  • [Deactivated] on 23/02/2016 - 15:44
    +1

    For those interested a "Top of the Line" electric bike = $6000

    http://www.pushys.com.au/focus-thron-impulse-27r-2-0-electri…

    Good deal if it can convert a $300 standard bike into this

  • miq on 23/02/2016 - 15:59
    +3

    gonna ride my bike until i get home

  • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 16:03
    +1

    These guys also have a similar kit for the rear wheel for $179: http://www.voilamart.com/36v-500w-rear-wheel-electric-bicycl… Tempted to risk the potential quality issues and get a front/rear combo to build up a cheap 2WD bike… strictly for private property use of course!

    • bargaino on 23/02/2016 - 16:19

      With "Max load capacity: 85kg", I would not consider the rear-wheel option.
      It looks like a 7-speed freewheel, which has not been used on decent bikes in many years as the axle is prone to breaking. Modern bikes use a freehub.

  • franco cozzo on 23/02/2016 - 16:05
    +1

    …or you could pedal and actually get some benefit from riding your bike!

    • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 16:15
      +1

      … or you could not make silly statements like that ;)

      Seriously though, most eBikes and eBike kits allow for PAS (Pedal Assist). This means you still pedal and still put energy into the ride from your own muscles but you can dial up the PAS level to suit your needs. PAS allows me to get up some very steep hills and get to work in the middle of Summer without the need for a change of clothes or a shower on arrival. On the flats or slight inclines I shut the motor off or use the minimum PAS setting and pedal along like everyone else. The only time I use the somewhat awkward thumb throttle is when I'm at a set of lights and want to get safely across the intersection as quickly as possible but I still pedal even then… I just get up to 25kph VERY quickly.

      • franco cozzo on 23/02/2016 - 16:20
        +1

        pedal 'assist' ….?!?
        i just see guys buzzing past me at 35-40kmh and theyre usually not doing a thing…! ;)

        • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 16:21

          Yeah, they're the ones wrecking it for the rest of us :(

        • franco cozzo on 23/02/2016 - 16:28

          @SteveAndBelle: i can see youre genuine about it…and i can see you ride

          but most 'motored' (electric or petrol) bikes seem to be used in an irresponsible manner whether it be illegally on roads, share paths or trails or with motors well above 250W limit in those various settings

          its seldom theyre used for what they were intended for and its a result of this they have such a bad rep as they represent bike riders in such a bad light (…as if we needed anymore angst from the public!)

        • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 16:41
          +1

          @franco cozzo: Completely agree. It's a big shame. In saying that though it's also a shame that non-motorised riders continue to cause havoc on our roads and paths by constantly ignoring red lights and travelling waaaaay too fast for the situation (shared bike/walking paths especially). The motor power laws are also a complete joke in that they're close to meaningless. Why base car laws on 'speed' yet bike laws on 'power'? Why not base bike laws on speed too?! Far easier to police as they can just use a laser gun/camera as they do with cars and fine those who break the law… motorised or non-motorised! I can legally drive a 1000HP car on the road but it's illegal to ride anything more than a 250W eBike? Many changes in law yet to be made methinks because I know one thing's for sure, eBikes are only going to get more & more popular with time.

        • bargaino on 23/02/2016 - 16:55

          @franco cozzo:

          most 'motored' (electric or petrol) bikes seem to be used in an irresponsible manner

          possibly because they are ridden by bogans who lost their driving license by idiocy.
          Technically, they are now riding an unlicesned motor vehicle while under suspension, but I've not heard of the cops booking them.

          it could be worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqokzHuoLtk (picnic table , scarborough)

  • smileyface on 23/02/2016 - 16:34

    I've looked into everything from the Bafang kits to cheap and cheerful to fully custom made electric options and this represents good value IF you can:

    spin a spanner
    source a decent battery from ebay

    Most of the other kits are 250w/24v
    This one, if it works, would assist on hills plenty

  • [Deactivated] on 23/02/2016 - 16:38
    +1

    Max load capacity: 85kg

    I weigh that without including the bike frame, tyres, wheels and everything else.

    • [Deactivated] on 23/02/2016 - 16:59

      Is that 170kg for both wheels?

  • [Deactivated] on 23/02/2016 - 16:56
    +1

    From doing all this years ago:
    36v chargers were rare and much more expensive. This may have changed.
    3x cheap 12v SLA say 12AH batts might get you by, so I built up a LiPo battery bank 36v x 40Ah, and went twice as fast and very far with them. But they cost a lot. Aliexpress was cheapest back then.

    Problem with SLA was it took ages to charge before and after every ride. Lipo can charge very fast and are deep cycle I think. Just some ideas anyway.

    • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 17:02

      Yes. I've found the most cost effective, lightweight and best bang-for-buck battery pack can now be built up from LiPO packs designed for Radio Control cars/planes. I purchased 7 x 2S 5000mAh LiPO packs to build my pack for a measly $125! Series them up, chuck them in some sort of enclosure and you're away… however you have to consider the charging method and whether you need a BMS too. I decided against a BMS to save size & weight on the bike itself but that means I need to buy a $300 charger capable of properly balance charging 14S cells. Also note that LiPO packs have a shorter lifespan than other chemistries.

      • [Deactivated] on 23/02/2016 - 17:18

        I planned to run a 36v 190w solar panel on a trailer for country touring but never finished the setup.

        Even though I still just charge the LiPos with anything, even 12v in three sections, after 10 years I suspect they still might output more than new 12ah SLA batteries. They lose a lot if abused, but still are working.

        • SteveAndBelle on 23/02/2016 - 17:20

          Yeah nice! I may not need to replace them as regularly as I first though then :) Most now specify the cycle expectancy though and the cheaper packs like the ones I bought are always far less than the more expensive ones but I dare say if you look after them they should easily exceed that.

    • bargaino on 23/02/2016 - 17:59

      LiPo battery bank 36v x 40Ah,

      Thats 200 cells! Must have been a 10kg pack. And an very long commute?

      • [Deactivated] on 23/02/2016 - 18:17

        200 seems about right. 10kg pack yeap maybe, but the same AH lead acid would be 30kg or so (?).

        Longest trip was 25km but still going strong when arrived back home. Possibly could travel 50 to 100km with PAS.

  • Tasmaniac on 23/02/2016 - 17:09
    +2

    Hi OP I plan in competing in this year's tour de France, do you have anything less conspicuous ?.

  • mskeggs on 23/02/2016 - 18:46
    +1

    500w is illegal for road use in NSW unless you register the vehicle, which is impossible for a push bike.
    http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/registration/unregistered.ht… about half way down.

  • cheepwun on 23/02/2016 - 21:45
    +2

    Every time I have considered electric for going up hills, I have decided against it.

    • extra weight on bike when riding normally (all the electric gear weighs you down)
    • more chance of bike getting stolen
    • more chance of gaining weight & becoming too dependent on the stuff
    • cost
    • Russ on 23/02/2016 - 23:18

      Have you looked at the electric assist trailers for bikes? They clamp to either the seat post or to the rear axle of your bike, and just push. I believe they have an RF remote that goes on your handlebars, so you can stop them pushing when you are stopped.

      Compared to the above motor, trailers can be removed easily, bringing the bike back to its normal weight when you want to exercise. You could also lock the bike up and take the trailer to sit under your desk at work, largely solving the theft problem, and also making it easy to charge at work.

      I haven't seen any for sale in Australia yet, and they probably wouldn't be legal in some states.

      Cost will still be high, but I think the trailers use car batteries, as they need weight to provide enough traction. That might reduce the cost, compared to li-ion batteries.

      • cheepwun on 23/02/2016 - 23:20

        Have you looked at the electric assist trailers for bikes?

        Nice idea but trailers are 100% unappealing to me, sorry!

      • llama on 24/02/2016 - 00:43

        Have you looked at the electric assist trailers for bikes?

        Might as well just buy a second mode of transport. Like a car.

  • [Deactivated] on 24/02/2016 - 01:55

    There's lots of comments about legal usage of these.

    It's probably best that the OP state that this item is for OFF ROAD USE only, and in which states if any, it can be used legally on paths and roads.

    Good deal.

    • woteva on 24/02/2016 - 07:31
      -1

      It's only illegal if you get caught.

    • NosDan on 24/02/2016 - 11:10
      +1

      It's probably best that the OP state that this item is for OFF ROAD USE only

      in the states that they are illegal, they are illegal to ride in any public space (footpaths, car parks, public parks, ovals, netball courts, etc. anywhere people have free access). the only legal place to use them would be on your own private property. you can not simply use them "off road"

      • franco cozzo on 24/02/2016 - 12:20

        exactly right nosdan….

        why the hell is this being advertised freely anyway if it exceeds power limits in all states??

        • [Deactivated] on 24/02/2016 - 17:14

          It's similar to lockpicking tools and bongs, both from memory have been bargains here, and both are legal to buy and sell.

          I am very glad Ozbargain keeps an open mind up to a point.

          I didn't know about the specific ebike laws, just mainly it seem to me relevent to on-road and walkpaths. My offroad reference is me getting it muddled with unlicenced dirtbikes etc.

          Also I recall a china seller advertising a 500w bike kit badged as 200w fwiw.

        • SteveAndBelle on 24/02/2016 - 17:42
          +1

          @Bargitrage: Yes, there are even some motor & controller combos that are only made as 750W-1KW but are electronically downtuned to whatever the order specifies then badged/stamped accordingly. It's then a very simple job for the end-user to reprogram them back up to their full power so as I stated above the power-based laws are ridiculous as they're being debased and will continue to be debased until they're changed. They make no sense at all eg. a cyclist with relatively good strength can do 50kph+ on a bike path and easily kill a small child if they were to wander into their path whereby someone with a 1KW Pedal Assist kit doing 10-15kph is breaking the law even just riding on an empty bike path? The mind boggles.

        • llama on 24/02/2016 - 19:52
          +1

          @SteveAndBelle:

          electronically downtuned to whatever the order specifies then badged/stamped accordingly. It's then a very simple job for the end-user to reprogram them back up to their full power

          Laser pointers are a low cost and widely known example of that.

  • woteva on 24/02/2016 - 22:54

    Could power it with my stash of eneloops ??

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